Agco Corp /De Q4 FY2024 Earnings Call
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Auto-generated speakersGood day, and welcome to the AGCO Fourth Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Greg Peterson, AGCO Head of Investor Relations.
Thanks, and good morning. Welcome to those of you joining us for AGCO's fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings call. We will refer to a slide presentation this morning that's posted to our website at www.agcocorp.com. The non-GAAP measures used in the slide presentation are reconciled to GAAP metrics in the appendix of the presentation. We will make forward-looking statements this morning, including statements about our strategic plans and initiatives as well as their financial impacts. We'll discuss demand, product development and capital expenditure plans, the timing of those plans and our expectations concerning the costs and benefits of those plans and timing of those benefits. We'll also cover future revenue, crop production, farm income, production levels, price levels, margins, earnings, operating income, cash flow, engineering expense, tax rates and other financial metrics. All of these are subject to risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those suggested by the statements. These risks include, but are not limited to, adverse developments in the agricultural industry, supply chain disruption, inflation, tariffs, weather, commodity prices, changes in product demand, the possible failure to develop new and improved products on time, including premium technology and smart farming solutions, within budget and with the expected performance in price benefits, difficulties in integrating the PTx Trimble business in a manner that produces the expected financial results, introduction of new or improved products by our competitors, and reductions in pricing by them, the war in Ukraine, difficulties in integrating acquired businesses and in completing expansion and modernization plans, on time and in a manner that produces expected financial results and adverse changes in the financial and foreign exchange markets. Actual results could differ materially from those suggested in these statements. Further information concerning these and other risks is included in AGCO's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2023, and subsequent Form 10-Q filings. AGCO disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. Later today, we'll make a replay of this call available on our corporate website. On the call with me this morning is Eric Hansotia, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Damon Audia, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. With that, Eric, please go ahead.
Thanks, Greg, and good morning. Earlier today, AGCO reported fourth quarter results for 2024, where we delivered a strong 9.9% adjusted operating margin and $1.97 in adjusted earnings per share and sales that were down 24% from quarter four last year. On a full year basis, we achieved an 8.9% adjusted operating margin and $7.50 in adjusted earnings per share and sales that were down 19% from 2023. The adjusted operating margin performance is by far our best performance in an industry downturn. What makes it more impressive is that the North American industry decline in 2024 was the worst single-year decline since the downturn in 2009 associated with the financial crisis. Our margin resiliency in this challenging environment is clear evidence that we have structurally improved the company through our ongoing transformation efforts over these past years. I want to take a moment to thank the AGCO team around the world for delivering such strong results for the year despite a challenging and dynamic macro environment and at the same time, with significant portfolio shifts that occurred in our business. The organization teamed up and put Farmer-First reinforcing AGCO as the most trusted partner for industry-leading smart farming solutions. 2024 was a transformative year for AGCO. We closed the largest ag-tech deal in our industry's history with PTx Trimble joint venture. And we also exited a non-core part of our business by divesting the majority of the Grain & Protein business. These portfolio changes helped us enhance our strategic ambitions and allow AGCO to focus on agriculture machinery and precision ag technology. These strategic changes will also provide margin tailwinds for us over the long term as we outlined at our Analyst Day in December. On the Precision Technology side of our business, we combined all our brands under the newly launched TTX brand so that we can swiftly unlock synergies across the enterprise and grow Precision Ag sales to $2 billion by 2029. We have already demonstrated tremendous progress in 2024, where we now have over 1,000 PTx dealers, all while continuing to foster relationships with over 100 OEMs. Looking to the future, we know our independent retrofit dealer network is an absolute key differentiator for us that provides unmatched product expertise and support to farmers regardless of the equipment brands they prefer. Autonomy, targeted spring and off-board technologies will become more mainstream in the coming years. AGCO is poised to partner with farmers at any point in their technology journey. The depth of our product portfolio and unique consultative go-to-market approach allows us to offer a wide variety of products for any brand in vintage of machinery, and this is a very difficult thing to replicate. In addition, given our Farmer-First focus, we also rolled out our FarmerCore initiative in 2024 and further streamlined our distribution network by partnering with some of the greatest dealers so that we can best serve farmers on-farm, online or on-site at the dealership, the way they want to be best served. The Fed portfolio in North America comes with an industry-leading uptime commitment, and our farmer core strategy is designed to help deliver that uptime. We expect rent coverage in North and South America to continue its growth trajectory and reach approximately 82% in 2025 through these continued efforts. The quarter wasn't without challenges, however. The dealer inventories remain higher than target going into 2025. On a weighted average basis, we have between 1 month and 1.5 months of excess dealer inventory to work through. To address this, we are planning to significantly underproduce retail demand again in 2025. Although we anticipate further declines in large ag machinery volumes in 2025, recent sentiment surveys and many of our recent interactions with farmers show a sense of cautious optimism that is an improvement from where we were just 6 months ago. Recent positive news around the stocks-to-use ratios and commodity price rallies have improved farmers' expectations about future profitability. The byproduct of this is a back-half-weighted outlook for AGCO. To best position ourselves in this environment, we anticipate more significant production cuts in the first half of the year, offset by modest growth in production hours in the back half as we lap easier comparables. Finally, we will see cost savings begin to materialize in earnest around mid-2025 as our rightsizing transformation initiatives begin to manifest in the P&L. We expect these efforts to mitigate some of the weak industry demand. Despite a lower sales forecast and significant underproduction, we expect higher and more resilient margins compared to past cycles due to the structural improvements in our business. Slide 4 details industry unit retail sales by region for 2024. Global industry retail sales of farm equipment continued to be weak in all of AGCO's key markets. We expect the bottom of the cycle to occur in 2025. North American industry retail tractor sales decreased 13% during 2024 compared to the previous year. Sales declines were relatively consistent across the horsepower categories with higher horsepower categories declining more in recent months. Combined unit sales were down 22% in 2024 compared to 2023. Lower projected farm income and a refreshed fleet is expected to pressure industry demand even more in 2025, resulting in weaker North American industry sales compared to 2024, particularly in larger equipment. Brazil industry retail tractor sales decreased 4% and combined sales decreased 33% during 2024 compared to the previous year. Farm acreage in Brazil increased only modestly in 2024 after 5 years of more significant growth. Lower commodity prices, rising farmer debt and reduced demand from China created caution among Brazilian farmers. Industry demand is expected to remain effectively flat in 2025 due to mixed market dynamics. As with other cycles, industry demand will recover. It's a matter of when, not if. AGCO will benefit from the long-term growth of the Agricultural Equipment segment thanks to a growing population and a middle class with diets that consist of greater amounts of protein. With the actions we took in 2024, our consistent Farmer-First focus, we have positioned ourselves very well to capitalize on the growth of Precision Ag that is needed to raise yields and meet the world's growing agricultural needs. AGCO's factory production hours are shown on Slide 5. We have eliminated Grain & Protein production hours for 2024. Significant production cuts were made in all regions in quarter 4, 2024, with the biggest reductions occurring in South America and North America. Given the continued weakening industry conditions, we reduced production hours even more than we planned as sales in the quarter were below our expectations. Our production hours were down approximately 33% and in the quarter four of 2024 versus low levels in the quarter four of 2023 and down approximately 28% on a full-year basis versus the year of 2023 at a global level. We remain laser-focused on reducing dealer inventories as quickly as possible in 2025, given the current soft demand environment and elevated dealer inventory levels. Sequentially, from quarter 3 to quarter 4 2024, we saw modest reductions in dealer inventory, but we still have work to do, primarily in North America and South America. We are projecting 2025 production hours between 15% and 20% lower than 2024, with the North America region showing the biggest decline. We expect quarter one 2025 production hours to be down between 35% and 40% and versus quarter one of 2024. Our plan is front-loaded and aggressive to get inventory rightsized quickly. Our current outlook for 2025 assumes North America and South America will result in production less than retail demand at least through the first half of 2025. Diving into the regional breakdown. In Europe, we ended 2024 with dealer inventories at just over 4 months of supply, effectively in line with where we'd like. Fendt is under this average and Massey Ferguson and Valtra are slightly above. The near-target dealer inventory level in Europe is a real positive for AGCO given the significant exposure to the region. In South America, we reduced the number of units on hand at the dealers by over 8% from quarter three levels. However, given the forward outlook, dealers are still holding around 5 months of supply versus our target level of 3 months. We anticipate underproducing retail demand at least through the first half of 2025 to further reduce dealer inventory levels. Similarly, in North America, we reduced the units on hand at the dealers by approximately 7% from quarter three levels. However, given the challenging outlook in 2025, we are still approximately 9 months of supply versus our 6 months target. The current environment will result in significantly lower production levels at least for the first half of 2025. Moving to Slide 6, where you'll see our three high-margin growth levers aimed at improving our mid-cycle operating margins to our new target of 14% to 15% by 2029 and outgrowing the industry by 4% to 5% annually. This demonstrates that we are a much stronger company that has less variability throughout the business cycle, higher at the mid-cycle, but also higher-lows and higher-highs. To reiterate, these three growth levers are: number one, the globalization and full-line product rollout of our Fendt brand, where we now expect North and South America Fendt revenues to reach $1.7 billion by 2029. Number two, growing our Precision Ag sales to $2 billion globally by 2029; and number three, focusing on accelerating our global parts business and increasing the market share of genuine AGCO parts to achieve approximately $2.3 billion in global sales by 2029. We rolled these new targets at our recent analyst meeting in December, and we appreciate those who were in attendance. Moving to Slide 7, you'll see a recap of Precision Planting's 2025 Winter Conference. That's one of my favorite events every year. I just never miss it. This premier event attracted over 4,000 farmer attendees from across the globe. The objective is to help farmers learn strategies and technologies that will help them efficiently and productively improve their operations, and they can all be implemented immediately on their farms. The conference also gives them opportunities to connect with other farmers and experts to share knowledge. One of the highlights from the event included an update on our Symphony Vision targeted spray system, which will begin deliveries in quarter one of 2025. As you'd expect from us and our Farmer-First strategy, this technology can be retrofitted on all sprayers sold in North America in the last 10 years. We are going to the market with 2 tiers of offerings. The first is Symphony Vision Rate, which allows farmers to leverage pulse width modulation technology with live vision variable rate control. The second is Symphony Vision Spot, which adds spot spray control of each nozzle. Farmers can grow into the technology at a pace they prefer simply by adding additional cameras for the full spot spray feature set. Farmers will own the technology with no per acre recurring charge, enabling them to control weeds in a cost-effective manner year after year while maximizing tax incentives in the year of purchase. Our unique independent distribution network emphasized retrofit first through a hands-on approach where the dealers are seen as trusted advisers by the farmers. The depth of the precision planting portfolio, coupled with the PTx Trimble product lineup allows AGCO to offer absolutely the most comprehensive suite of technology hardware and services, regardless of the make or year of equipment a farmer owns. AGCO's objective is to be the technology hub of the mixed fleet. This event is a testament to our unwavering commitment to innovation and shaping the future of the industry alongside our farmer partners. I couldn't be more excited about what's ahead. On Slide 8, you'll see a familiar slide that highlights how our Precision Ag products can help farmers reduce every expense, except land, where we can positively impact over 70% of the costs on a given farm. The value-add and return on investment is clear for farmers. We're seeing increased adoption of technologies even in this challenged ag economy. Let's take electric drive planter rollers and smart sprayer nozzles leaving our factories as examples. In quarter four, we had electric drive planter rollers approaching a 90% take rate. Smart nozzles saw over a 50% take rate in quarter four, and we expect that to grow significantly with Precision Planting Symphony nozzle. 2024 marked a significant milestone for AGCO's Precision Ag business. We brought together two powerful brands: Precision Planting, known for its innovation and farmer focus; and PTx Trimble. These two working in a fully integrated way as one powerful team to build our market-leading Precision Ag technology focused on the mixed suite. Through this integration, we have already made several changes to better position the business for success, including recent leadership changes to enhance the focus on driving innovation and winning across all brands and farmers. These improvements accelerate our ability to deliver on being the most farmer-focused precision ag technology company in the industry. We also made progress on transforming our technology stack with the PTx Trimble joint venture. We recently launched our OutRun retrofit autonomy kit, and there's lots of excitement about it. While the long-term opportunity is attractive, there are some near-term dynamics impacting the business. As we indicated at our Analyst Meeting, sales and margin for PTx Trimble have been pressured given the rapid decline in the broader industry and the ongoing distribution transition. Related to the softness, we have taken a goodwill impairment charge in quarter four, which Damon will cover in more detail shortly. Despite this, we know this was absolutely the correct strategic move, and we'll continue integrating, innovating and growing the PTx portfolio of products and services to hit our 2029 sales target of $2 billion. The short-term market environment has no effect on the strategic value of this asset and our confidence in achieving our $2 billion sales target. Helping PTx accelerate development and deploying industry-leading solutions for farmers around the world will be one of my top priorities in 2025. I'll now hand it over to Damon to walk you through some of the financials from the quarter.
Thank you, Eric. Good morning, everyone. Slide 9 provides an overview of regional net sales performance for the fourth quarter and full year. Net sales were down approximately 24% in the fourth quarter compared to the fourth quarter of 2023 when excluding the negative effect of currency translation and the positive impact of acquisitions. Pricing in the quarter was roughly negative 1% compared to the fourth quarter of 2023. By region, the Europe/Middle East segment reported sales down roughly 17% in the quarter compared to the same period in 2023, excluding the impact of unfavorable currency translation and favorable impact of acquisitions. Sales were down in most countries, with declines in Germany, the United Kingdom and France showing the largest reductions. The products showing the most significant declines were high-horsepower tractors, hay tools and combines. However, parts showed modest growth even in this environment. South American net sales decreased approximately 24%, excluding the impact of unfavorable currency translation and favorable impact of acquisitions. The market continues to be challenged, and we continue to underproduce relative to retail demand; high horsepower tractors, combines, and planters showed the largest reductions. By geography, the Brazilian market was down the most, partially offset by increased sales in Argentina. Net sales in North America decreased approximately 39%, excluding the impact of unfavorable currency translation and favorable impact of acquisitions. Lower farm income continues to pressure its farmer purchasing behavior. High-horsepower tractors, hay tools, and sprayers saw the largest declines. Net sales in Asia/Pacific/Africa decreased 28%, excluding favorable currency translation and favorable impact of acquisitions due to weaker end-market demand and lower production volumes. The most significant declines occurred in China and Australia. Finally, consolidated replacement parts were approximately $418 million for the fourth quarter, up 4% on a reported basis and up approximately 6% year-over-year when excluding the effects of unfavorable currency translation. A special thanks to the parts team around the world to deliver such strong results in 2024. Turning to Slide 10. The fourth quarter adjusted operating margin was 9.9%, a decline of 80 basis points compared to the strong fourth quarter of 2023. The weak industry conditions are resulting in significantly higher costs related to factory under-absorption and higher discounts. By region, the Europe/Middle East segment income from operations decreased by $95 million and operating margins decreased 180 basis points from Q4 of 2023 to Q4 of 2024. The lower margins were a result of reduced sales volume, factory under-absorption from reduced production and increased discounts. Although the industry was down in this segment, and the results declined year-over-year, I would note that our team in Europe did a fantastic job growing share and driving cost savings, which helped deliver the second-highest level of earnings from the segment ever. So, congratulations to the European team and their strong execution. North American income from operations in the quarter decreased approximately $77 million year-over-year, and operating margins decreased approximately 830 basis points. Lower sales from the weak market conditions, the divestiture of Grain & Protein, lower production hours, and higher expenses associated with the integration of the PTx Trimble business are the primary drivers for the lower operating margins. Operating income in South America increased by approximately $15 million in Q4 of 2024 versus Q4 of 2023, and operating margins were roughly 11% in the quarter. Market conditions in the region have continued to remain weak, and we have reacted with significant production cuts for 5 consecutive quarters. SG&A expenses were significantly lower in Q4 of 2024 compared to Q4 of 2023 due to the restructuring efforts. We also had a one-time benefit in Q4 of 2024 of roughly $4 million related to the MOVER program sponsored by the Brazilian government, which helped operating margins by around 140 basis points in the quarter. Income from operations in our Asia/Pacific/Africa segment decreased by approximately $14 million due to higher discounts and SG&A. As Eric mentioned, we did record an impairment charge of just over $350 million in the fourth quarter related to the North American component of our PTx Trimble joint venture. In the quarter, we performed our annual goodwill impairment assessment and concluded that the projected discounted cash flows would not support the current level of goodwill. The industry conditions in 2024 and the current industry outlook for 2025 negatively affecting the JV's sales and earnings during these early years were the primary reasons for the write-down. Despite this adjustment, I would reiterate what Eric said that the PTx Trimble joint venture is foundational to our autonomy ambitions offboard software suite and guidance solutions for not just AGCO machines but for the mixed fleet. We've made great progress in integrating the PTx Trimble joint venture over the past 2 months and look to build on that momentum in 2025 and beyond. We remain committed to our $2 billion Precision Ag sales target for 2029. Slide 11 shows our full 3-year cash flow for 2023 and 2024. As a reminder, free cash flow represents cash used in or provided by operating activities less purchases of property, plant, and equipment. Free cash flow conversion is defined as free cash flow divided by adjusted net income. We generated $297 million in free cash flow in 2024, approximately $288 million less than 2023 and lower than our expectations. The decline relative to our forecast in corresponding lower free cash flow conversion was driven by the lower-than-expected sales in the fourth quarter. The decline year-over-year resulted primarily from lower net income. Our capital allocation plan includes reinvesting back into the business, repaying debt to maintain our investment-grade credit ratings, and rewarding shareholders with direct returns. In addition to the regular quarterly dividend of $0.29 per share, as a reminder, we also paid a special variable dividend of $2.50 per share in the second quarter of 2024. AGCO has paid over $1.2 billion in special variable dividends over the last 4 years. We will remain focused on deploying capital in the most effective ways for the benefit of our shareholders. Slide 12 highlights our 2025 market forecast for our three major regions, which have not changed from what we communicated during our December Analyst Meeting. For North America, we expect demand to be meaningfully lower in 2025 compared to 2024. Despite the recent rally in corn prices, both soybean and wheat prices remain below the long-term average. Farmers are delaying equipment purchases due to higher interest rates and tighter profit margins. We expect the large segment to be down around 25% versus 2024. The small tractor segment is expected to be down between 0% to negative 5% after several years of significant decline. For Western Europe, we expect the industry to be down somewhere in the range of 0% to 5%. Yields for grain and oilseeds remain below historical averages due to droughts in some areas and excess rainfall in others. Input costs for things like fertilizer and pest management remain high, further straining profitability. For Brazil, after the significant decline we saw in 2024, we expect industry demand to be relatively flat in 2025. Farmer optimism around weather and positive progression of planting for soybeans and corn is expected to support retail demand for tractors. Brazil is also seen easing interest rates and stabilizing inflation, which will help contribute to similar demand levels as 2024. Slide 13 shows the primary assumptions used to create our 2025 outlook, which excludes the Grain & Protein business that we sold on November 1, 2024. We anticipate the 2025 global industry demand to be approximately 85% of mid-cycle, down from just over 90% in 2024. Our sales plan includes market share gains and pricing in the 0% to 1% range, while foreign currency is projected to be around a 3% headwind. With the announcement earlier this week, given the ongoing uncertainty on the impact to U.S. farmers, retaliatory tariffs and the effect on other parts of the world, our outlook does not reflect any financial effects from tariffs. As things become clearer, we will update our outlook accordingly. Given the diverse global manufacturing footprint, the announced tariffs related to China, Mexico, and Canada would likely have a minor direct effect on our financial outlook. However, retaliatory tariffs or U.S. tariffs on the EU would influence our current financial outlook. Given this dynamic environment, we will remain nimble to address the situation, and we'll update our outlook as things evolve. Engineering expenses are expected to be approximately flat compared to 2024. With the continued need to destock the dealer inventory channel, our production hours will be down between 15% and 20% in 2025, as Eric mentioned earlier. These production cuts will be primarily focused in the first half with the first quarter being down approximately 35% to 40% year-over-year. With the lower level of sales and production in 2025, we expect our adjusted operating margins to be somewhere between 7% and 7.5%. With the structural changes we made to our business, coupled with the cost initiatives we have implemented, we continue to view this outlook as achievable. Lastly, our effective tax rate is anticipated to be between 35% and 38% for 2025, higher than 2024. The reasons for the higher rate are due to lower income in lower tax jurisdictions, primarily in the U.S. and our Swiss legal entity. Turning to Slide 14 for our 2025 outlook, which remains the same as outlined at our December Analyst Meeting. Our full-year net sales outlook is $9.6 billion, which reflects the market environment, the elimination of the Grain & Protein sales and roughly a $300 million headwind related to foreign exchange. The lost earnings from Grain & Protein, the adverse foreign exchange rates, and the higher tax rate altogether reflect over $1 of nonoperational adverse impacts to our earnings. When you layer on the further industry declines, we expect our earnings per share to be in the range of $4 to $4.50. Given the weak market environment, we are modestly reducing our capital spending to approximately $375 million versus the $393 million in 2024, which keeps AGCO well-positioned for any future demand inflections. Our free cash flow conversion target remains at 75% to 100% of adjusted net income as we look to further reduce working capital in 2025. Lastly, our Q1 2025 net sales are expected to be approximately $2 billion, down approximately 32% from Q1 of 2024. If you were to exclude the Grain & Protein sales from Q1 of 2024, our sales will be down roughly 26% on a like-for-like basis. Given the lower sales volumes and significant reduction in production hours we anticipate Q1 earnings per share to be approximately breakeven and on low point for 2025. We remain confident in executing our strategy and delivering a more resilient business through the cycle. Our adjusted operating margin outlook for 2025 would be over 300 basis points higher than the last time our industry is at around 85% of mid-cycle in 2016. This would be just another example of how we've structurally changed the business for the long term. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator to begin the Q&A.
The first question comes from Stephen Volkmann with Jefferies.
Thank you. Damon, I'm just going to start off with your Q1 commentary. I guess the implication there would be North America probably has a negative margin in the first quarter, but I don't want to put words in your mouth. Can you just give us a sense of how you're thinking about the profitability by region in the first quarter?
Yes, Steve, I believe you're correct. Given the level of underproduction we anticipate in the first quarter, North America is likely to experience a negative margin. For Europe, we expect it to remain in the low double-digit range. South America is also expected to be slightly negative due to significant underproduction there, while Asia Pacific should remain within the low single-digit margin range. The critical factor for us is that the underproduction in the first quarter will be significantly concentrated in North America and South America as we aim to reduce dealer inventories in those areas.
Okay. Understood. And then as a follow-up, I'm trying to get a sense if you could remind me of your total North American sales, how much of that is basically sourced in Europe?
Yes. So, I think if we look at North American sales last year, Steve, in total, about 35% of that came from overseas, 25% of the 35% came from the EU.
And the next question comes from Tami Zakaria with JPMorgan.
Good morning. So, my question is on the EME margin. It was quite impressive on a 17% sales decline, and you're seeing low double-digit operating margin in the first quarter. So, given the cost savings there, how should we think about the mid-cycle margin for that region when volumes do inflect in the future?
Yes. I think, Tami, Europe has done quite well with the market share growth the team has done there, done quite well. Parts have been relatively strong. Generally speaking, we would see most of our regions sort of in that mid-teens, mid-teens margin at around mid-cycle.
And the next question comes from Mig Dobre with Baird.
Thank you. Good morning. Given though you framed Q1 for us, I'm sort of curious as to how you think about dealer inventory progression? Do you think this issue this problem largely gets solved in Q1? Or is this more of a Q2 factor? What are some of the benchmarks that you're watching in determining production for Q2?
Yes, Mig, if we examine the regions, Europe is in good shape and we don't expect any significant changes. In South America, we are working to significantly cut production and anticipate adjustments in the second quarter due to the seasonality of the business, as Q1 is typically a low selling season. We expect to see more sell-out in Q2. North America presents a wildcard, as we currently have about nine months of inventory despite lower unit sales due to a negative outlook. We are facing two variables: how the industry evolves in the next six months and farmer sentiment. If we see an improvement in farmer sentiment and grain prices, such as corn futures being slightly over $5 for May, that could drive demand and give us a chance to slow down production. However, in the short term, we need to focus on dealer inventory levels and maintain an aggressive stance on our inventory management. Thus, the situation in Q2 may take a bit longer to resolve, depending on how farmer sentiment develops in the second half of the year in North America.
Okay. And if I may, one quick follow-up on pricing. Negative in Q4, but you expect it to get better, slightly positive in '25. What gives you that confidence? And again, any commentary by region would be helpful as well.
Yes, we are still projecting a slight positive range of 0 to 1 percent. However, we anticipate being somewhat negative in the first quarter. This is due to a few factors, including some carryover pricing. Regarding the new Fendt 700, both the Gen 6 and Gen 7 models continue to influence our European margins year-over-year. In South America, we expect to be slightly negative, not because of pricing or discounts, but due to a change in tax law. In Argentina, the industry was pricing in anticipation of a 15.5 percent tax, which was eliminated in December. Consequently, we and the rest of the industry have adjusted pricing downward, resulting in negative pricing that reflects this tax change. In North America, we foresee a positive outlook for the quarter and the entire year. Overall, we maintain a similar outlook to what we discussed in December, with a slight negativity in Europe impacting our projections, bringing us down to that 0 to 1 percent range for the full year.
And the next question comes from Kristen Owen with Oppenheimer.
Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I wanted to follow up on Tami's question about the margin recovery in Europe, particularly in the fourth quarter and how we think about that flowing through to 2025? Just specifically, can you give us an update on the reorganization at BayWa? Anything else that you might call out that's helping to contribute to that recovery?
Yes. Sure, Kristen. So BayWa, as they've stated publicly, as part of their restructuring efforts, have made a lot of progress. I think the reports from the third parties show that the business is improving. We continue to have a great partnership with them. We're working very closely with them. Their ag business has been extremely strong. And obviously, that's helped the Fendt business. So, we continue to be very close with them. Obviously, as a restructuring initiative, they are not eager to take on a lot of the stock units, and that's been part of our challenge here with Fendt and BayWa is we're doing great pass through to the retail to the farmers, but the stock units as they start to preserve cash, I think we won't see that recover at least here in the first part of 2025. But overall, the market looks good there. I think what you should expect to see for us in EME, again, as you know, macro is the most stable market. We still see it down. But the cost actions, we've talked about a lot of those cost actions as we work through conversations with workers' councils. If you look at the restructuring efforts, we accrued quite a bit in the fourth quarter as we've gained some clarity and confidence on that. We would expect that start to really drop to the bottom line more in the back half of the year as we start to execute on some of those actions here in Europe.
Great. My follow-up is about the free cash flow outlook for 2025. You mentioned some inventory you want to reduce in the first half of the year. Considering the comments about 2025 possibly being the lowest point, how do you view working capital in the second half of the year if there's an expectation for some volume recovery next year?
Yes. So again, if I think about our free cash flow, we still feel fairly confident. Again, if I looked at where we delivered just in this 2024, we fell short of our expectations. But I think it's important to remember because of how we work with AGCO Finance, Eric and I both alluded to that we missed our sales by around $300 million versus our expectations. Had we made those sales, that would have come out of inventory and would have dropped right into cash for us. So that would have put our conversion rate at just around 100%. So, we still feel good as we look forward into 2025, knowing that there are some finished goods that we have to work through the system here because what we're carrying is more what we would want in the current environment. And so even if the industry picks up, it won't be sort of a one-for-one build as the industry is recovering because of where we finished the year here falling a little bit short of the sales target.
And the next question comes from Jamie Cook with Truist.
Good morning. I guess two questions. Damon, first, a similar question on South America, given we start off the year negative and just the volatility in the margins, how are you thinking about margins for the full year and sort of the cadence? And then I guess my second question, obviously, you guys announced some restructuring actions that you started, I think, last summer. Given the weakness in the markets, anything more that we're contemplating? And then last, finally, just what's the expectations on PTx in your guidance in terms of sales and profits, if any?
Yes, Jamie. For South America, we expect the margins for the full year to be similar to what we achieved at the end of 2024, in the mid- to higher single-digit range. As I mentioned earlier, margins will be negative in Q1, but we anticipate some profitability starting in Q2. Q3 is typically our peak quarter for profitability, followed by a slight decrease in Q4 due to seasonality. Overall, I would estimate the year to end close to last year's results. Regarding restructuring actions, we are on track to achieve $100 million to $125 million in cost savings by year-end. During our December Investor Day, I mentioned we are seeking additional efficiencies and opportunities to leverage global Centers of Excellence, adding another $75 million in expected savings by the end of 2026 as we transition to international locations and increase our use of technology. As Eric noted, we are closely monitoring the market. If conditions worsen beyond our expectations, we can manage discretionary spending. We are making investments that we deem necessary for long-term business health, but we must also ensure we maintain a certain level of margin and earnings. We do have some discretionary cost levers we can utilize if needed in addition to normal restructuring efforts. As for PTx, which encompasses our Precision Planting, PTx Trimble, and Fuse businesses, last year’s revenue was around mid-$8 million, and I expect that sector to remain relatively flat in 2025 at similar sales levels across those three divisions.
And the next question comes from Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs.
Good morning. Eric, I'm wondering if you can just expand the comments you made in the prepared remarks on the company's philosophy on upfront pricing versus subscription pricing within the context of one of your competitors doing aftermarket guidance kits with heavy aftermarket pricing. Can you just talk about what feedback you're hearing in the market? And just your broader philosophy on upfront versus subscription?
Our goal is to be the most farmer-focused company in the industry. Farmers consistently express that they have different financial needs at various stages of the cycle. When they are ready to buy, they prefer to finance everything during prosperous years. Conversely, in tougher times, they aim to reduce ongoing expenses, making them generally unfavorable toward subscription fees. However, there are notable exceptions; for instance, we have a subscription model within our OutRun autonomy system and certain features of our radical agronomic system. These subscriptions make sense, particularly for newer technologies. Regarding the technology I mentioned earlier, the feedback indicates that farmers prefer to pay a one-time fee to cover fixed costs, with ongoing variable costs afterward. This approach allows them to operate over the field more effectively. Currently, variable costs can be prohibitive; if they need to re-run the field to address some issues, it becomes costly, discouraging that option. We aspire to facilitate that process, which is a key feature of our system. Our focus remains on being farmer-centric while integrating subscriptions in areas where they prove beneficial, especially for innovative technologies.
Sure. Regarding the South America performance for the quarter, I wasn't surprised. Could you discuss what the expected run rate will be in the second and third quarters for that business? I appreciate the benefit of about 150 basis points in the fourth quarter, but can you elaborate on the margin trajectory you anticipate once the production cuts are complete this year?
Yes. I think, Jerry, as I mentioned earlier, we anticipate that due to significant production cuts in the first quarter, we will experience a negative operating margin in South America. However, we expect to see a slightly positive margin in the second quarter as production levels hopefully improve. Generally, the third quarter is the strongest seasonal quarter for us, so that should yield the highest profitability. In the fourth quarter, we expect profitability to taper off a bit, again due to seasonality. Overall, for the full year, I would say our performance will be similar to last year's, possibly a little lower due to pricing issues in Argentina that I mentioned previously, but we are looking at mid- to high single-digit margins.
And the next question comes from Kyle Menges with Citi Group.
Just wanted to ask a little bit about just anything that you guys or we should be thinking about with upcoming elections in Germany and just any potential impact either pre or post-election?
No, I think what you've seen is influenced by two different factors. One is the country elections and the other is the EU parliament. We observed a shift to the right in the EU parliament, which I believe is more significant for overall EU regulations regarding climate change policies and restrictions on farmers. This shift seems to favor farming practices, allowing farmers to continue their operations as they prefer without introducing more restrictions. In terms of country-specific elections, they might affect the degree of cohesion between those countries and the U.S. administration. However, regardless of who is elected, I don't foresee a significant difference. Therefore, we haven't identified any major impact in our scenario planning concerning country-specific elections.
That's helpful. I wanted to discuss the potential synergies with Trimble's top line in 2025. If I remember correctly, you mentioned having around 450 Premier Precision planting dealers in North America, but only about 50 of them are currently selling Trimble products. Can you help us understand the opportunity in that area? Do you expect to add the remaining 400 dealers, and how many do you think might be added this year? How quickly do you believe this can happen, and what are your thoughts on their overall willingness and ability to start carrying Trimble products?
Yes. There's been a lot of progress in the fourth quarter, especially on two fronts. One is signing up AGCO dealers to take on the Trimble aftermarket technology and then also to establish the understanding in the market about where we're going with what we call full line tech dealers. And these are dealers that previously could have been a precision planting dealer or could have been a Trimble dealer and we want them to carry both portfolios going forward so that they've got the full breadth of all technology. If you add them all up today, we've got over 1,000 dealers in the marketplace and over 95% of the acres covered with dealers that cover our technology, PTx technology. Now what we don't have fully penetrated yet is the full cross-selling. That's going to be the primary focus in 2025, as well as continuing to build out our AGCO dealer portfolio. We've got a little over 100 dealers in the AGCO lineup signed up today. We'll be between 200 and 300 by the end of this year, which is where we want to be. We've got the CNH dealer sign-ups about where we want it to be. So, our main focus is cross-selling of the full-line AGCO dealers and filling out the rest of our AGCO dealers. We think both of those will make big progress in '25.
Got it. That’s helpful. Thank you.
And the next question comes from Angel Castillo with Morgan Stanley.
Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to go back on the PTx. I think there was a discussion around the sales maybe expectation this year. But just curious if you could kind of overlay the expectations on operating income for 2025? And maybe just expand on the impairment charge. It sounds like some of the adoption rates on penetration or position that you're seeing is still good. So just to what extent are you seeing any kind of deterioration around that relative to PTx in particular?
Yes, I'll talk about the strategy elements and will have Damon talk about the margin projection. If you took a look at all the activities we wanted to do in 2024 and that we're aiming for in 2025, we got them done or more so. We launched the PTx brand. It's well understood in the marketplace. And everybody understands that's the collection of all of these assets that we've gotten is now the strongest mixed fleet precision ag business in the world. We retained our key talent within the business. We retained all our OEM partners in the business. We built up a strong channel I just talked about. We got over 1,000 dealers and over 95% of the acres covered. We got to fill that in and make it penetrate better, but we've got a great foundation. We're building the innovation factor where we launched OutRun technology on the automation kit. The data platform team is running at full speed. That's one of the outputs that we wanted out of this deal and we'll have our first launch coming soon. And we converted the technology guidance systems on our AGCO machines. It used to be about a 20% take rate of Trimble. It's up over 70% now, and we think it will be over 85% in '25. And so, the activities we're aiming for are done, it's just that the market was so depressed that the market demand was down in addition to the last time buy for CNH continued to run longer than we had expected because it lasted longer in a weaker market. We also implemented significant cost synergies in 2024, and we're going to continue that in 2025. We haven't gotten revenue synergies just because there's not much revenue in this market. But we still are aiming for that, and we still are committed to delivering it as the market recovers. So, with that, I'll have Damon maybe give a little more color on margin expectations.
Yes. For PTx Trimble, we anticipate improved margins in 2025 compared to 2024. Integration challenges and the CNH last time buy made 2024 a tough year. However, as we work through these issues, we expect sales in that business to rise next year, leading to year-over-year margin improvements. Regarding the impairment, we conduct a traditional discounted cash flow analysis focused on the near term, and the industry's decline in 2024 impacted our sales and earnings expectations versus our deal model from when we calculated goodwill. Consequently, we needed to take a charge at the end of the fourth quarter. Nonetheless, as Eric and I mentioned, this does not alter our long-term plans, the technology, or the enthusiasm expressed by farmers and dealers. It primarily reflects the discounted cash flow timing related to the cycle's challenges this year compared to what might have happened two or three years from now.
That's very helpful. I wanted to revisit the comment on free cash flow, specifically regarding the confidence in achieving a 75% to 100% conversion rate. Could you elaborate on this? You previously mentioned some thoughts on it, but I’d like to understand more, especially considering the 50% conversion we've seen over the last couple of years. We've also heard from other peers about potential timing issues with pool fund cash payouts. Can you discuss any factors that might impact this or present a risk? Additionally, how do you perceive your confidence in reaching that 75% to 100% conversion?
Yes. If we had achieved the sales we expected in the fourth quarter, our conversion rate for 2024 would have been around 100%. The shortfall in sales impacted our conversion last year and left us with excess inventory at the end of 2024. As we look to 2025, we plan to normalize the finished goods inventory on AGCO's balance sheet by moving it to the dealers and ultimately to the farmers. We remain optimistic about the conversion rate. However, one uncertainty is the potential recovery of the industry. If the industry does see rapid growth heading into 2026, we’ll need to consider whether we should increase our inventory in anticipation of that demand. While we view that as a positive challenge, our current outlook does not suggest a dramatic shift for 2026. We'll closely monitor farmer sentiment and adjust our production schedule accordingly for the second half of the year.
And the next question comes from Mike Feniger with Bank of America.
Can you help us understand the situation in North America? You mentioned earlier that if there are tariffs with Europe, it might influence your thoughts or strategy regarding Massey. Is there a significant shift that allows for flexibility in how we consider North America if we start seeing more discussions around tariffs?
Yes. Our supply chain team has looked at several different scenarios of what we might do. I think a lot of this depends on what are the rules of the game going forward, what constitutes a tariff, what would be required to be local production? And how long do we think it will be in place? Any kind of major footprint change usually takes a multiyear payback. And so, until we get some clarity on stability and what are the exact rules and details, we don't expect to be making supply chain shifts. But we've got plans on the shelf ready to go if some of those materialize. But right now, we don't have anything in action mode.
And I think, Mike, just to add a bit more detail, the team has various scenarios in play. As I mentioned, the tariffs between Canada and the U.S. could impact us. We are considering whether to shift some products to Canada from the U.S. We're also exploring the possibility of doing some minor kitting in the U.S. without making large-scale investments to help us manage short-term challenges. As Eric said, there are several scenarios being considered for the company, but we want to ensure we have clarity before implementing any of those plans.
Fair enough. And just lastly, guys, I realize the production cuts are really helping in trying to make that progress on the inventory side. You mentioned North America, I think it was 9 months versus a target of 6. I'm curious how we think about the used side, if you're seeing progress there? And how you kind of help facilitate on the used side as I know you guys are making progress on the new side of the inventory?
We don't have as significant a used equipment issue as some of our competitors. We continue to utilize pool funds and various financing tools. Currently, used equipment values are stable, and volumes have returned to pre-COVID levels, which is not concerning for us at this point. We are effectively managing this in collaboration with AGCO Finance.
And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Eric Hansotia for any closing comments.
Yes, I'd just like to say thank you for joining us today and the great questions on the call. AGCO has gone through a substantial transformation over these past years, particularly in 2024. It was a big year of change, where we supercharged our Precision Ag portfolio with the PTx brand. Our team was instrumental in delivering the 8.9% adjusted operating margin result for 2024. That's a high watermark for us at this stage of the cycle, and it's 300 basis points better than the last cycle, as Damon talked about. I want to thank each of them for their contributions. It was a big year of lots of hard work, all focused on the farmer. To all of our shareholders, we appreciate your support and look forward to building value through our transformation program and executing on our Farmer-First strategy. Have a great day, and thanks for your participation.
Thank you for joining the AGCO Fourth Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. The conference call has now concluded. Have a nice day.