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Ardent Health, Inc. Q2 FY2024 Earnings Call

Ardent Health, Inc. (ARDT)

Earnings Call FY2024 Q2 Call date: 2024-08-14 Concluded

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Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Jael and I will be your conference operator today.

Jason Casorla Analyst — Citi

At this time, I would like to welcome everyone

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to the Ardent Health Partners second quarter

Jason Casorla Analyst — Citi

2024 earnings conference call.

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All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. I would now like to turn the conference over to Stefan Neely, Vallum Advisors. You may begin.

Stefan Neely Analyst — External Advisor, Vallum Advisors

Thank you, Operator, and welcome to Arden Health's second quarter 2024 results conference call. Leading the call with me today is Arden's President and CEO, Marty Bonick, and Alfred Lumsdame, Chief Financial Officer. Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements about future business and financial expectations. Actual results may differ significantly from those projected in today's forward-looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties, including the risks described in our periodic reports filed with the SEC. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update our forward-looking statements. Further, this call will include the discussion of certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBIT-DAR. Reconciliation of these measures to the closest GAAP financial measure is included in our quarterly earnings press release, which was issued yesterday evening after the market closed and is available at ArdentHealth.com. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Marty.

Thank you, Stephan, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you all joining us today for our first earnings call as a public company and for your support as we begin this exciting new chapter. I want to particularly acknowledge our team, including the more than 24,000 team members, each of whom work hard every day to deliver on our purpose of caring for our patients, our communities, and one another. Today, I'll provide a brief summary of our second quarter financial results, share some key strategic updates, and discuss our outlook for the rest of 2024. But first, I would like to take a moment to give a brief overview of Ardent in our compelling growth story. Ardent is a leading hospital operator and healthcare provider in eight growing mid-sized urban markets across six states, including Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, New Jersey, Idaho, and Kansas. We deliver care through a system of 30 hospitals and more than 200 sites of care. At our core, Arden is committed to making health care better. We strive to achieve this goal through an operating philosophy that puts the patient, our consumer, at the center of everything that we do. By creating this consumer focus, we cultivate deep and long-lasting relationships with our patients that span their entire health care journey. To aid in this, we leverage technology within our facilities and beyond to expand our relationships with patients, making care easier to access, easier to deliver, and easier to experience. We believe our differentiated care delivery model creates a unique and scalable growth platform. Our strategic framework is centered around market share growth, operational excellence, and disciplined capital deployment. Through this strategic framework, we believe that we are well positioned to create sustainable long-term growth and value for our shareholders and for the markets that we serve. Key to our growth strategy is a differentiated joint venture model, which enables us to build local market density in new markets while also being capital efficient. Now looking at the second quarter, our results were supported by broad-based demand growth for our services, improved payer mix, and reimbursement dynamics, along with continued strategic execution. The strong demand we experienced for our services during the second quarter resulted in a 3.4% increase in adjusted admissions relative to last year. Demand trends remain favorable across both inpatient and outpatient settings as total admissions grew 5.1% year over year. Inpatient volume growth was supported by an increase in admissions through the emergency department partially due to strong growth in our EMS ED volumes. Another important dynamic impacting our inpatient volumes during the second quarter was the two midnight rule which we estimated drove of more than a 2% increase in admissions compared to the second quarter of last year. Surgery volumes decreased 2.2% compared to the prior year period. The decrease in surgeries was due to 0.9% decrease in our inpatient surgeries and a 2.8% decrease in outpatient surgeries. Outpatient surgeries were particularly impacted by our service line optimization efforts, which reduced volumes in select lower margin services such as dental, otolaryngology, and ophthalmology. Our inpatient surgical volume trends for the quarter reflect a decrease in bariatric and gynecological cases, partially offset by growth in higher acuity spine neurology and urology cases. Turning now to an update on our growth strategy, our team has focused on advancing our key initiatives of targeted market share growth, operational excellence, and disciplined capital allocation. When combined, we believe our strategy can allow us to achieve sustainable long-term organic revenue growth in the mid to high single digits, adjusted EBITDA growth in the low to mid double digits, and mid-teens adjusted EBITDA margins. Our plan to grow our market share is centered around improving access to health care within our markets. To achieve this, we are focused on investing in additional ambulatory sites of care, such as urgent care centers, pre-standing emergency rooms, outpatient surgery centers, and physician clinics. We are also deepening our network of employed providers to widen the top of the funnel in terms of patient access. Through the first half of this year, we have acquired or opened eight urgent care clinics and are actively evaluating numerous ambulatory investment opportunities within our existing markets. Urgent care facilities are currently our most immediate focus as they broaden our geographic footprint and access to new patients in our communities. As it relates to our provider network, we employed 1,785 providers at the end of the second quarter, an increase of 6.5% compared to the same time last year. We are currently focused on recruiting both primary care and specialty care providers to expand access in our markets to support our targeted service line growth strategies. In terms of operational excellence, as I've already mentioned, we've been very focused on service line optimization, which was an initiative we began in the second half of last year. Year-to-date, our service line optimization efforts has have focused on curtailing low margin and low acuity cases, causing a nearly 2% decrease in our total surgery volumes and resulting in improved margins overall. We are also making strong progress improving our supply utilization through a variety of sourcing and procurement initiatives, along with other enterprise standardization initiatives. These efforts, combined with our service line optimization initiatives, contributed to the 70 basis point improvement in our adjusted EBITDA margins relative to the second quarter of 2023. In addition, fundamental to our growth strategy is a focus on disciplined capital allocation, which includes maintaining a lean balance sheet to support opportunistic growth through investment in M&A. With the completion of our initial public offering last month, we have substantial available liquidity to pursue expansion into new and adjacent high-growth midsize urban markets. Our current pipeline of potential opportunities is robust, and we are actively evaluating potential targets that represent attractive return opportunities for growth. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we continue to expect strong demand for growth across our markets, along with continued margin expansion and strategic execution. To that end, yesterday, we initiated guidance for the full year of 2024. Alfred will provide more on our guidance in a moment, but I do want to highlight a few key elements of our guidance, which includes total revenue growth of between 6% and 9% and adjusted EBITDA growth of between 32% and 38%. In closing, I'm very proud of the hard work and commitment of our entire team, which has allowed us to reach this important milestone for ARDENT. As we enter into this new chapter in growth, in partnership with all of our shareholders, we are excited about the growth opportunities ahead and believe we have an exciting roadmap to create value for shareholders while continuing to improve access to healthcare in the markets we serve. With that, I'll now hand the call over to Alfred. Thank you, Marty, and good morning to

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everyone joining us on the call today. As Marty indicated, we're pleased with our second quarter results, which reflected both improved revenue realization and margin expansion. Our total revenue for the quarter was $1.5 million, an increase of 7.5 percent compared to the second quarter of 2023. As Marty noted, the growth in our total revenue was the result of increased volumes and better rates, partially due to improved payer and service mix. Our net patient service revenue mix for the second quarter reflects a 70 basis point reduction in Medicaid revenue mix, offset by a 55 basis point increase in managed care and a 55 basis increase in Medicare, which includes managed Medicare. Our net patient service revenue mix for the second quarter reflects a 70 basis point reduction in Medicaid revenue mix, offset by a 55 basis point increase in managed care and a 55 basis point increase in Medicare, which includes managed Medicare. Of note, these changes in payer mix reflect the ongoing Medicaid redeterminations. So far, we've seen approximately two-thirds of our redetermined patients stay within government coverage and approximately 20% convert to commercial plans. In addition, our total revenue for the second quarter reflects a $13 million increase in our supplemental revenues due to the implementation of the Oklahoma DPP program, which became effective on April 1st of this year. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $122 million, compared to $102 million in the second quarter of 2023. Adjusted EBITDA margin before non-controlling interest, as a percentage of net revenue, was 12.7% during Q2 of 2024, compared to 12.0% in Q2 of 2023. As Marty discussed, our adjusted EBITDA margins benefited by improved surgical mix, the impact of our cost reduction efforts, as well as the overall improvement in our payer mix. The comparison of adjusted EBITDA to the prior year is also impacted by approximately $8 million in benefit from government stimulus funds recognized in the second quarter of last year. Specifically relating to our expenses for the second quarter of 2024, I'd highlight that our contract labor expense declined by approximately $7 million year-over-year, or 22%, as we continue to see a normalization of contract labor utilization and rates across each of our markets and continued improvements in our nursing retention. attention. As a percentage of total salaries and benefits, our contract labor expense for Q2 of 2024 was 4.3 percent, compared to 5.7 percent for Q2 of last year. In total for the second quarter of 2024, salaries and benefits were $624 million, or 42.4 percent of total revenue, compared to 598 million dollars or 43.7 percent of total revenue in the second quarter of last year. Our supplies expense for the quarter was approximately 259 million dollars or 17.6 percent of total revenue compared to 253 million dollars or 18.5 percent of total revenue in the second quarter of last year. This 90 basis point decrease in supplies expense as a percentage of revenue reflects improvements in our supply chain performance from a number of supply expense initiatives that our team has been implementing this year. Professional fees for the second quarter of 2024 were $272 million, or 18.5% of total revenue, compared to $235 million, or 17.1% of total revenue in the prior year period. A majority of the increase in professional fees relates to higher hospital-based physician subsidies compared to 2023. So far in 2024, we continue to see some pressure in certain specialties, such as anesthesia and radiology, but overall, we believe that the subsidy dynamic has largely normalized relative to the significant increases we saw throughout 2023. Other operating expenses for Q2 were $115 million or 7.9% of total revenue compared to $109 million or 7.8% of total revenue in Q2 of last year. The decrease in other operating expenses primarily reflects an approximately $7 million benefit from a sale of age patient accounts receivable in Q2 of this year. Moving now to cash flow and liquidity, we ended the second quarter with total cash of $335 million. Cash provided by operating activities during the second quarter was $120 million compared to $43 million during the second quarter of 2023. The increase in cash from operating activities compared to the prior year reflects our improved profitability and higher cash flow resulting from changes in networking capital. Capital expenditures during the second quarter were $39 million compared to $34 million in the second quarter of last year. The increase in CapEx was primarily driven by an $8 million increase in growth CapEx relating to medical imaging equipment and surgical robots. At the end of the second quarter, our total net debt outstanding was $758 million. During the quarter, we repaid $100 million of outstanding borrowings under our Term Loan B using cash on hand while simultaneously increasing capacity under our undrawn revolving credit facility by $100 million. At the end of the second quarter, our total available liquidity was $624 million. When factoring in the $209 million of net proceeds from the initial public offering in July, our net debt would have been $549 million and total available liquidity would have been $832 million at the end of the second quarter on a pro forma basis. As of June 30, 2024, our total net leverage, as calculated under our credit agreements, was 2.3 times, and our lease-adjusted net leverage was 4.0 times. Proforma for the net proceeds of the IPO, our lease-adjusted net leverage was 3.6 times. I'd like to turn now to recap our full year 2024 financial guidance, which we announced in our press release yesterday afternoon. total revenue of between $5.75 billion and $5.9 billion, adjusted EBITDA of between $415 million and $435 million, net income attributable to Arden Health Partners of between $163 million and $182 million, implying full-year EPS of between $1.23 and $1.37. Finally, capital expenditures of between $170 million and $185 million. Our guidance for the year reflects total adjusted admissions growth of between 4.0% and 4.5% compared to 2023, and net patient revenue per adjusted admission growth of between 3.0% and 4.0%. Our guidance also reflects an adjusted EBITDA impact of approximately $27 million from the Oklahoma DPP program. As it relates specifically to our expectations for the second half of the year compared to 2023, we expect to see continued volume and rate growth across our markets supported by our focus on sustainable operational excellence and margin improvement. Before opening the call up for questions, I also want to provide a quick update on the New Mexico Directed Payment Program. This supplemental program has been approved by the state and signed into law by the Governor of New Mexico. As of August 5th of this year, the program has been submitted to CMS for its approval, which historically takes on average 120 to 140 days. We'll continue to keep you posted on any material updates to the status of this program going forward. Now, with that, operator, I'd like to open up the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star 1 again. If you are called upon to ask a question and are listening via loudspeaker on your device, please pick up your handset to ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking a question.

Jason Casorla Analyst — Citi

For this session, we request that you please restrict yourself to one question and one

Operator

follow-up, and you can re-enter the queue for any further follow-up questions. Your first question comes from the line of Jason Casorla of Citi. Your line is open.

Jason Casorla Analyst — Citi

Thanks, guys, and congrats on the quarter. I just wanted to ask about 24 EBITDA guidance and what it implies for the back half of the year. You know, if we add back that 63 million of cybersecurity headwind in the fourth quarter of 23, it seems like 24 guidance implies that second half EBITDA would basically be flat at the midpoint year over year. You know, that comes after meaningful growth year to date and the Oklahoma DPP benefit. I guess you have the range out there, but just any color in terms of how you're approaching EBITDA guidance and maybe what the puts and takes are and that we should be thinking about for the second half.

Sure. I appreciate the question. Yeah, you're correct. You know, if you look at just the midpoint of guidance, you know, it would apply pretty, you know, pretty modest year over year growth, relatively flat if you adjust out for cyber. You know, obviously, you know, we're just out of the gate in terms of guidance. You know, we clearly had some benefit in Q2 from a couple things from a timing perspective. We have, you know, a relatively small amount, but usually we have, we expect those types of events to happen in the back half of the year. So there's just a little bit of timing going on as well as some supplemental activity. You know, we're early in our, obviously, in our public co-history, and, you know, our expectations are to have guidance that we fully meet, so we haven't done modifying guidance at this point, and, again, I would point to, you know, real timing activity, as well as, if you look at last year, the Oklahoma DPP program was scheduled to go live originally in October of 2013. They postponed the go-live until April of this year, but as a consequence, Oklahoma provided a refund of the shop tax, and that hit in Q4 of last year. So that was kind of a one-timer in the back half of the year.

Jason Casorla Analyst — Citi

Okay, great. Thank you. And then maybe just as a follow-up, we're just hoping to give a little bit more color around your ambulatory expansion. I know I think you guys have previously suggested a $20, $25 million kind of annualized spend there. I guess, can you just give us a sense on the pipeline, timing around that ambulatory expansion, what that looks like, and maybe just how you're, you know, perhaps how you're balancing any opportunity to kind of pull that forward or accelerate that spend would be great.

Yeah. As we said, we implemented or through our urgent care platform by eight facilities the first half of this year. You know, we expect to see meaningful growth in the second half on urgent care as well. We've got the number of de-novos and targeted acquisitions in the pipeline, but nothing definitive to say. But I would expect to see growth in the second half of this year based upon what's in our pipeline.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Fidel of Stevens. Your line is open. Hi, thanks. Good morning.

Scott Fidel Analyst — Stephens

For the first question, just appreciate the update on the redeterminations and the comment around 20% shifting over to commercial. Just interested if you could share with us what your exchange admissions contributions were in the second quarter to admissions growth and what you're budgeting for the full year for that as well.

Yeah, exchange volumes overall were, you know, up fairly significantly, you know, basically from an admins perspective, about a third year over year. However, you know, for us, it's still a relatively small contribution from a revenue perspective, just over 3% of our revenues. So, you know, the volumes are still relatively modest overall, even though on a year-over-year basis, you know, it is growing and clearly a big part.

Scott Fidel Analyst — Stephens

Okay, got it. And then as a thought question, I thought it might just be helpful if you could walk us through a little more detail. So I've actually got a couple of questions on this already, just around sort of the sequencing of the Oklahoma DPP and sort of how that builds into the full-year expectations. As you highlighted in the release, you had around $13 million in the second quarter. You're assuming $27 million for the full year. So that would sort of imply one more sort of similar payment. But maybe if you could walk us through, is this something that you would expect quarterly or biannually, or is there some conservatism just around that sort of processing of Oklahoma DTP revenues over the course of the year would be helpful. Good questions, Scott, and I think,

you know, that partially was a component of the answer to Jason's question as well, and I know it is a little bit, I'll say, confusing. We're expecting, you know, the program is live, went live on April 1, and we'll expect relatively consistent revenue impact from that. We said $13 million in Q2. We would expect relatively consistent revenues in the coming quarters. There is, of course, a tax component to that, so the net is smaller than that. Call that $10-11 million. From a year-over-year perspective, we did have this shop tax refund in Q4 of last year, and that's why the full-year impact is not as simple as taking three times the $13 million for the rest of the year. However, going into next year, we'll also, from a Q1 perspective, we'll get a full quarter impact of the program in Q1 of next year on a year over year basis so again that's why it's not as simple just that shop tax I'll call it refund last year makes it not as simple as taking three times the Q2

Scott Fidel Analyst — Stephens

impact hope that makes sense yeah it does okay that helps explain that okay

Operator

great thank you your next question comes from a line of Whitmail of Leering

Whit Mayo Analyst — Leerink Partners

partners your line is open uh hey thanks good morning guys can you maybe uh spend just a minute on the service line optimization i think you've kind of framed some of the impacts that you saw on surgical trends uh calling out dental ent ophthalmology just how much did that contribute to the decline how much do you think that weighs on the metrics for the the year did you annualize this next year is this an ongoing initiative just maybe any color would be helpful yeah i think i'll

start and then let Marty jump in. You know, from our perspective, when we look at the surgical decline, it essentially, you know, and there's always puts and takes, right, but it essentially covers all of it. And we've also seen pressure, and I think that is a broad, as well, on our bariatric cases, unrelated to, but I think if we look just at how much of the year-over-year decline did that service line optimization impact it was effectively the entire amount

more than that it was it was you know we saw surgical growth when you net in the addition so we were focusing on taking out some lower level cases dental ophthalmology ENT you know if you look at just those three categories that's about 117 percent of the decline so we We backfill that with higher acuity cases. We also have been focused on our oncology programs. We closed an OB program last year in one of our Texas markets. And so all of those things are continuing to play out, and we'll see that the rest of that impact basically cycle out as we go through the balance of this year.

Whit Mayo Analyst — Leerink Partners

Okay. And maybe just, Alfred, I think contract labor, you framed around a 4.3 percent. percent as a percentage of total swb this quarter down from five seven if i get the numbers right what are you what are you budgeting for in terms of the rest of the year do you think you make additional improvement from current levels or is this a steady state that you would expect

i would say it's closer to steady state uh with than uh any substance you know i wouldn't expect the same kind of quarter of a quarter decreases that we've seen um as we go forward we're still very focused you know average hourly rate has come down nicely and we are still very focused on utilization and of course you know from a quarter reporter we would expect seasonally Q4 to be you know our strongest from a volume perspective and so there will be you know more utilization potentially so I think we're to you know we'll call it the new normal with with still you know focus on getting back to pre-pandemic we're getting much closer to that that being said we

are seeing strong recruitment and retention for our team members and as that trend continues we do expect you know as Alfred said to get back towards pre-pandemic levels around those rates but again not not the significant step down that we saw okay maybe just to clarify that point just

Whit Mayo Analyst — Leerink Partners

I mean, if I take the second quarter, the 4.3% of SWB, you're kind of run rating that in terms of, like, your guidance for the rest of the year? You're not assuming a material or modest level of improvement?

Not assuming a modest – I mean, not assuming a material level of improvement from where we are.

Whit Mayo Analyst — Leerink Partners

Okay, perfect. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the lane of Craig Hittenback of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Craig Hettenbach Analyst — Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks for the color and the timing of New Mexico. So on supplemental payments more broadly, can you just talk about your confidence in expanding and that and really a contribution to margins as we go forward?

Yeah, I think at a macro level, you know, we view these programs as, you know, pretty consistent and enduring. You know, I think now with New Mexico and Tennessee, with their DPP program, something in place, we think, you know, relatively predictable. Now, obviously, New Mexico has not been approved by CMS yet, and, you know, we'll be back, obviously, once it happens. But, yeah, I think from, you know, we think it is the amounts historically have been largely.

Craig Hettenbach Analyst — Morgan Stanley

Got it. And then just a follow-up question on the strong adjusted emissions growth. Can you share any insights or color by some of the markets, like maybe some markets that are trending above?

Yeah, it's been pretty consistent throughout our markets. It's obviously the two midnight rule has been a tailwind in this, and that's been consistent across all of our markets. So, you know, I don't think there was there's anything at a individual market level that I would that I would particularly point to.

Operator

Thanks for that. Your next question comes from the line of Kevin Fishbeck of Bank of America. Your line is open. Hi, good morning.

Joanna Gadro Analyst — Bank of America

This is Joanna Gadro filling in for Kevin today. Thanks for taking the question. so if i may just uh first follow up on the discussion around the supplemental payment programs understand we waiting for the new mexico and you're saying you know uh it's broadly i guess accepted program um across 44 different states uh but i guess as we're thinking you know uh going into elections and and what might happen like the different scenarios um in terms of the outcome and how this could impact the uh the medicare supplemental payment program in particular right if Republicans were to take over and try to kind of go after Medicaid while we're speaking, and then, you know, I guess how much is at risk in New York State when it comes to the supplementary payment program?

Yeah, I mean, it's a good question, and everybody's got that same question on their minds. You know, the way in which we've looked at it, as Alfred said, with the approval of New Mexico, the 44 states that have these live, If you go back to the inception of these programs, they started back in 2016 under the Trump administration and then have continued to grow under the Biden administration. And so given that this is now widespread across the country, you know, we feel that there's significant durability. CMS has also published guidance that has to be achieved by 2028 in terms of how they're going to try to standardize and normalize these programs across the country. So, you know, I think that also gives us some visibility in terms of how the government is thinking about these programs as a, you know, contributing funding source for these lower-income patients. And so, you know, we have, you know, good reason to believe that regardless of the election outcomes that these should have durability.

Joanna Gadro Analyst — Bank of America

Right. And what do you think about the concept of, you know, some of these states, when they expanded these supplemental payment programs, they went with the rate increase all the way up to commercial rates, and some states are, you know, raised the rates, but more kind of in line with Medicare. So would you say that, you know, those states that went with, you know, higher rates all the way to commercial would be more at risk when it comes to potential, you know, program changes?

I think it's just too early to know, you know, what the platforms need. Neither of the candidates have really established any firm guidance on this, and so I think anything that we would say is just complete speculation on that part thank you if i might

Joanna Gadro Analyst — Bank of America

ask a question on a separate topic so you um you talk about um uh your i guess uh uh you know managing your balance sheet but also uh looking at potential acquisitions you talk about you actively evaluating a pipeline so can you talk about your plans should we expect uh you know a transaction within the next 12 months, you know, and I guess how many different assets are you looking at, you know, what types of assets you're looking at when it comes to, you know,

targeting expansions? Thank you. Yeah, I mean, we've got a robust pipeline of activity. Everybody knows that there's a sort of tale of two cities going on in the healthcare world. There are systems like ours that are performing well and still a lot that are struggling. And so we're in conversations with a number of different opportunities that are attractive. We're going to be very picky in terms of which markets we go into that fit our criteria of those midsize urban markets, good growth profile, and someplace where we can get a significant foothold in those markets. At this point, we don't have anything definitive to discuss, but we're encouraged by the pipeline that we have and are hopeful to see an opportunity arise in the not too distant in future. That being said, it's too early to put anything definitive out there.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Timothy Greaves of Loop Capital Markets.

Timothy Greaves Analyst — Loop Capital Markets

Your line is open. Hi. If I could, I wanted to go back to total surgeries and in the decline. It seems like the service line optimization and the move away from lower acuity services to higher ones is the reason for it. I just wanted to kind of like, go into more of what is the depth of services that you guys offer in the higher acuity versus lower acuity services. And maybe further in on that, how much of the split, what is the split

between the lower versus higher surgeries that you guys give? We're full service providers absent, you know, high-end transplants. You know, we do a full complemented mix of surgeries, orthopedics, neurosurgery, general surgeries, et cetera. And so, you know, the surgeries that we've taken out, as you said, tend to be, you know, higher volumes, but not as a percent of the total. But they're just, they're quicker turnaround cases. And so you see a bigger numeric impact than you would for some of the higher acuity cases that take more time. And so So, you know, as we said, the delta that we saw in terms of the surgery decline was fully captured in terms of taking some of those lower margin services out. Not all, but, you know, making progress around those and then backfilling with some of those higher mersions. So, Alfred, anything you can add?

No, I think, you know, it's difficult to give a precise answer, you know, or a precise definition of lower acuity and higher acuity, right? because even within categories of something like orthopedics, there are, you know, I'll say lower acute orthopedics. You know, to Marty's point, the lower acute, they clearly are a higher volume. And, you know, for having the OR time really focusing on growing those types.

Scott Fidel Analyst — Stephens

Okay, thank you for taking the question.

Operator

This concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Marty for closing remarks.

Thank you, everyone, for your support of ARDNet as we enter into this exciting new chapter for the company. We believe we've got a strong foundation for profitable growth, and we look forward to keeping you apprised of our progress. With that, that concludes our call today.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.