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Earnings call · FY2026 Q2

BayFirst Financial Corp. (BAFN) Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us and welcome to the Bay First Financial Corp Q2 2026 conference call and webcast. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Al Rogers, President and CEO. Al, please go ahead.

Al Rogers CEO

Thank you, Marina. Good morning, and thank you for joining our call today. With me is Scott McKim, our CFO, and Robin Oliver, our COO. Please remember, today's call will include forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our cautionary statement on forward-looking statements contained on page two of the investor presentation my first full quarter as ceo at bay first has been very busy we set to work on a number of initiatives thus short and longer term the substantial 80 million dollar capital raised at the end of april was the first and was the certainly biggest step for the future of our bank we completed and deployed our asset resolution plan to address the bank's legacy credit issues, predominantly related to unduranteed balances of the FBA 7A loans. During the process of completing the Asset Resolution Plan, our team also identified some material misstatements from prior periods. We have restated financial statements for the years ended December 31st, 2024, December 31st, 2025, and the quarter ended March 31st, 2026. The amended 10-K and 10-Q have been filed this week. Scott will elaborate on both in a few minutes. We held a special meeting of shareholders on July 14th where the company obtained shareholder approval to amend Bay First Financial Corporation's Articles of Incorporation to increase the number of authorized shares of common stock from $15 million to $100 million and exchange all 4,000 outstanding shares of mandatorily convertible cumulative perpetual preferred stock series d and all 4 000 outstanding shares of mandatory convertible cumulative perpetual preferred stock series e for a total of 22 million 856 000 shares of common stock upon conversion all shares of series d and series e preferred stock were retired. The company Series A and Series B preferred shares were redeemed in July as well. Management also noted a mid-August launch as the date for the rights offering we announced back in April. Beyond these shareholder actions, we've also moved decisively to strengthen our operating structure and leadership team most notably trey corn has joined as bay first chief banking officer train has been a career banker in tampa for over 22 years and will lead our retail and commercial banking teams as a lifelong tampa resident with deep roots and involvement in several real estate industry and community organizations Trey brings the local market insight, relationship orientation, and proven leadership needed to help us sharpen execution and accelerate growth across our franchise. Adam Curtis will continue to lead commercial lending with the organization as Chief Lending Officer. He will report to Trey. The Commercial Relationship Managers and Portfolio Managers will report to Adam as that team focuses on growing and serving our commercial business customers across our footprint. Adam's steady leadership, strong customer relationships, and strong lending expertise remain critical to our ability to serve commercial clients and grow this important line of business with quality and consistency. Samantha Hill has transitioned to Director of Retail Banking with responsibility for production, growth, and execution across our retail banking centers. She will also report to Trey. All banking center managers now report to Sam, giving us clearer accountability and a more focused retail strategy. Sam brings a strong record of team development, customer experience, and branch execution will be important as we expand core relationships across our banking center network. Additionally, we have submitted an application to open a new retail location in South Tampa. This office will bring our total retail branch network back to 12, having closed an office in Sarasota last quarter. With that operational foundation in place, I will now turn the call over to Scott, who will discuss the quarter's earnings, including the impact of the Asset Resolution Plan and restatements.

Thank you, Al. Good morning, everyone. We are reporting a net loss of $32.7 million in the second quarter. This compares to the restated net loss of $5.9 million we reported for the first quarter. As Al mentioned, the asset resolution plan was deployed during the second quarter and therefore has dominated the earnings results that we will talk about today. The plan was a thorough review of the bank's legacy, unguaranteed SBA 7A portfolio, as well as our other portfolios. We conducted an analysis which provided adjustments to the net amount expected to be collected on over 7,000 individual SBA loans, which resulted in the full or partial charge-off on several of those loans. We established a specific allowance for credit losses on six loans, increased the overall allowance on unguaranteed SBA 7A loan categories, and also adjustments to the fair market values on our portfolio of loans that we have measured at fair value. In total, the adjustment amounted to $38.4 million. dollars. Provision expense for the quarter was $29.7 million, and the company's total allowance for credit losses on June 30, 2026 was $45.1 million. Additionally, the company booked an impairment of $1.5 million on a non-marketable equity investment in a firm who was a partner at the company's former SBA 7A lending business. Finally, the company wrote down the unamortized premiums on the bank's portfolio of purchase fully guaranteed usda loans which are at risk of default or early prepayments i want to be clear this adjustment is not credit specific in total the asset resolution plan impact was 41.5 million dollars as our new management team has been assessed the existing business and started to make updates to the strategic plan we identified some additional one-time charges during the quarter, which amount to $2.2 million and reflect the write-off of vendor contracts, which will no longer be used, and also the approval of a change in control payment to prior management. All of these adjustments together equal $43.8 million of the company's pre-tax $44 million loss for the quarter. We announced on July 15th that we identified $2.8 million of deferred origination costs and $2.1 million of accrued interest as of March 31, 2026, relates to loans which had defaulted or was placed into non-accrual status in prior periods, which resulted in a material understatement of provision expense and overstatement of net interest income during the affected quarterly periods in which the errors were accumulated in 2024 2025 and the first quarter of 2026. subsequent to that announcement we further identified another 3.4 million dollars of deferred origination costs which should have been netted against net gain on sale of government guaranteed loans and resulted in a material overstatement of those net gain on sale of government guaranteed loans during the affected quarterly periods in which the error accumulated specifically in the years of 2024 and 2025. These errors occurred in periods prior to 2024 as well but were not material during those periods. Our restatement efforts have correctly restated the company's earnings to date and we have amended our 2025 10k and our first quarter 10q. Management and the board of directors take our obligation to provide accurate and transparent financial reporting seriously. We move quickly to investigate what happened and to correct it and to notify our shareholders. We continue to work through internal operational remediation activities and will report in future SEC filings on our progress towards resolution and strengthening our internal controls over financial reporting. It is important to note that by exiting the SBA 7A lending business, these errors will not recruit. Nonetheless, we will ensure that our internal operations are compliant. Please note, as I continue, our prior period metrics, which I will mention, are the restated metrics. Other financial results include loans held for investment decreased by $41.4 million, or 4%, during the second quarter of 2026 to $882.8 million dollars and decreased 237.7 million or 21 percent over the past year most of this decrease year over year reflects the sale of loans and the exit of the sba 7a lending in the fourth quarter of 2025. deposits decreased 97 million dollars or nine percent during the second quarter of 2026 and decreased 175 million or 15 percent over the past year to 989 million dollars The decrease in deposits during the quarter was primarily due to reductions in high-rate promotional deposits held with non-relationship customers and also a decrease in broker deposits. 80% of the bank's deposits were insured by FDIC on June 30, 2026, and the bank's on-balance sheet liquidity ratio as of June 30, 2026 was 14.95%, and the bank did not have any wholesale borrowings. shareholder's equity at the end of the quarter was 115.9 million dollars which is 40.3 million dollars higher than it was at the end of first quarter the increase is from the capital rate net of the asset resolution plan net accumulated other comprehensive loss increased slightly by 57 000 during the quarter ending at 2.1 million dollars tangible book value per share decreased this quarter to $4.82 per share from $14.22 per share at the end of the first quarter. Our net interest margin was 3.48% of four basis points from first quarter. Net interest income was $9.4 million in the second quarter, virtually unchanged from the first quarter, and down $2.7 million from the year-ago quarter. On a normalized basis, the net interest margin for the second quarter, excluding the one-time impact that I mentioned as part of the asset resolution plan was 4.07%, which is driven by positive trends and cost of funds, which decreased 24 basis points from the prior quarter to 2.5%. The bank's cost of funds is now down 49 basis points year-to-date, reflecting our efforts to exit promotional rate balances and broker deposit balances. Non-interest income was negative $6.8 million dollars in the second quarter of 2026 which is 7.7 million dollars worse than the first quarter in a decrease of 17.3 million dollars from the second quarter of 2025 current quarter net interest income includes an eight million dollars in one-time impacts related to the board approved asset resolution plan additionally the year-over-year decrease is exasperated by exiting the sba 7a lending business as no additional game punch sales of government guaranteed loans will be booked non-interest expense was 17.7 million dollars an increase of 2.0 million compared to the first quarter essentially all of this increase is related to one-time charges that were driven by our actions under the asset resolution plan and the one-time items i have mentioned in total approximately 2.5 million dollars compensation costs were about six hundred thousand dollars higher driven largely by a crude change and control payment that i mentioned also as i mentioned our provision for credit losses was 29 million dollars in the second quarter compared to 3.4 million in the first quarter and 7.6 million in the second quarter of 2025. Net charge-offs were $4.5 million, down $200,000, compared to the first quarter, which was $4.7 million. Total unguaranteed SBA 7A loan balances were $142 million on June 30th. In comparison, the bank had $159.3 million of unguaranteed SBA 7A loan balances at the end of the first quarter. Total annualized charge-offs as a percentage of average loans held or investment at amortized costs were 2.08% for the second quarter, a decrease from 2.14% in the first quarter of the year. The ratio of allowance for credit losses on loans to total loans held for investment at amortized costs was 5.37% on June 30th, compared to 2.36% on March 31st, 2026 and 2.43 percent as of the end of 2025. The ratio of allowance for credit losses to those loans help for investment at amortized costs and excluding government guaranteed loan balances was 5.82 percent on June 30th, 2026, 2.55 percent at the end of the first quarter, and 2.60 at the end of 2025. The bank's Tier 1 leverage ratio was 8.3% as of June 30, 2026, compared to 5.89% on March 31, 2026, and 7.73% as of June 30, 2025. The total capital to risk-rated assets ratio was 12.77% as of June 30, 2026, compared to 9% on March 31, 2026, and 10.77% as of June 3, 2035. I will now turn the call over to Robin to make some operational and credit comments. Robin?

Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone. First, I want to provide some further details around the asset resolution plan and the related impacts. As Scott mentioned, the asset resolution plan identified and provided resolution for troubled loans, but it also provides protection from future charge-offs. Also, as Scott mentioned, our allowance for credit losses divided by total loans held for investment at amortized costs, excluding government-guaranteed loans, increased to 5.82% at the end of June. That is up from 1.86% a year ago. Further, the SBA Goldblum portfolio now has 32.8 percent reserved against unguaranteed balances, and the SBA slash cap portfolio now has a 25 percent reserve. These two small loan portfolios represent 83 million of unguaranteed SBA balances. As these loans season, we continue to learn how they perform, but we believe that actions taken under the Asset Resolution Plan have adequately positioned the bank to manage future charge-offs. That being said, we know we must remain diligent in collecting and resolving problem assets. And to that end, progress is being made, and at the end of the second quarter, total non-performing loans, excluding government guarantee balances, were $14.4 million, down from $15.9 million at the end of the first quarter, and the percentage of non-performing loans excluding government guarantee balances compared to total loans held for investment was also down to 1.72 percent which was a 10 basis points drop from march 31 2026. although that's up from a year ago we are still making clear progress i should also note that of the 14.4 million in non-performing loans 3.1 million of these balances were current and paying as agreed and we will be evaluating those for potential return to accrual status as time continues and in addition as i noted last quarter although our classified loans are elevated at the moment 68 of our classified loans were current and performing loans whereby we are working with the borrowers towards resolution switching gears from credit as we look toward the future growth of the bank and work towards a return to profitability, we are also focused on becoming as efficient as possible in our processes, while ensuring we provide an excellent experience for our customers to make banking easy with a high level of personal touch. Our focus over the last two years has been on growing business deposits and treasury services, but the infusion of capital this past quarter really allows us to get back to lending, which will help the bank grow both loans and deposits to add stable net interest income and fee income instead of transactional earnings without adding significant headcount we've also added leadership and talent in various areas of the bank which we believe will position us for growth including trey the chief banking officer that al mentioned a chief data officer and retail personnel including the retail individuals to support our new South Tampa location that is scheduled to open in September. We are excited about further expanding in Hillsborough County as we seek to round out our presence in the Tampa Bay market. At this time I will turn the call over to Al to make some final comments.

Al Rogers CEO

Thank you Rob. As I complete my first few months at May 1st, what I've seen only reinforces my belief that we have a significant opportunity ahead. I've spent time with our employees, customers, shareholders, and community leaders, and one thing is clear. Faith First has the people, relationships, and market position to become the leading community bank in the Tampa Bay region. Our focus is simple. We're building a high-performing community bank centered on relationship banking, disciplined execution, sound credit practices and exceptional service. We believe local businesses and consumers are best served when decisions are made close to home by bankers who know the market, understand their customers, and are invested in the success of the communities in which they serve. That community banking model starts with strong customer relationships. Our deposit mix and cost of funds remain a top priority we're working to deepen existing relationships and improve the mix from higher cost transactional accounts to relationships that value service responsiveness and long-term partnerships on the lending side loan growth has already begun while we continue to manage payoffs and charge-offs associated with the legacy sba portfolio our focus has shifted toward growing traditional commercial and consumer lending with borrowers located in the markets we serve our loan pipeline is strong and we are seeing encouraging opportunities across our footprint also investing in technology and process improvements that enhance efficiency, improve customer experience, and position us to scale responsibly as we grow. The capital we raised earlier this year provides us with strength and flexibility as we execute this strategy. We intend to deploy that capital thoughtfully, focusing on opportunities that strengthen the franchise, improve profitability, and support sustainable growth. While there is still work to do, I'm encouraged by the progress we've made and the momentum we are building. Our priorities are clear. Grow poor relationships, strengthen performance, expand our presence in Tampa Bay, and deliver consistent long-term value for our shareholders. I want to thank our employees for their dedication, our customers for their trust, and our shareholders for their continued support about our future and excited about what lies ahead. Marina, I'll turn the call back over to you for some questions. Thank you.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Ross Haberman with RLH Investments. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Ross Haberman Analyst — RLH Investment

Morning. Thank you for taking my call. Just two or three quick questions. Now, could you talk about this new branch you're going to open? How big could it be? And how quickly do you think you will hit a break even on it? How long will that take?

Al Rogers CEO

Location is in South Tampa, a very diverse area in the market that we do not have a significant location. We do have an office that's four miles away, but in a significantly different demographic and market. um we've already started opening accounts in this area and we expect that ability would come quickly as this is a initially a laced location in that market will it be a two year break even or hopefully something less than that or what's your guess i would say given our

Ross Haberman Analyst — RLH Investment

investment it would be sooner than that um and just a question or two for scott scott um the $142 million of unguaranteed SBA loans. I think you broke that out into a piece of $82 million and then another $60 million. Could you go over the reserves on each of those parts and how quickly do you think they'll be paying down? I think you said in the last quarter they paid down a total of $17 million. Is that correct?

Hi, Ross. Yeah, so we went from $159 down to $142. That's a pretty quick drop, but also keep in mind some part of that was also related to the asset resolution plan, so it was a little bit higher than what I would consider to be a true run rate for it. I will tell you that the, you know, I'll start to break the pieces down as far as what's in the portfolio for you the uh the bull portfolio is the largest part of ross i'm getting a little feedback on your phone there so you can mute me real quick sorry is that better that's that's all right okay here we go um so the bull portfolio and and this is uh all the the loans that are booked at amortized costs this excludes the fair value portfolio uh we ended the cord with 60 million in the bolt and that has a 33 reserve against that so um that's a little over almost 9.1 million dollars the flash cap portfolio and this is the one that really is amortizing a little bit quicker that had 29 million dollars in balances and has a 25 percent reserve against it uh which is 3.2 million and then the um the the core uh what we call a core cni so this is some of the larger loans that um have collateral other than real estate have 45 million dollars in balances in it and that has a 23 percent reserve against it or 1.5 million dollars. Now, there's another component of the SBA portfolio that is all real estate-backed. It has 53 million dollars in balances, and there's a relatively small reserve of about one percent against that. That part of the portfolio performs as expected. It is not a big loss driver for us. So, you roll all those bits and pieces together, and on the riskier parts of the portfolio, we're reserved in the high 20 percent.

Ross Haberman Analyst — RLH Investment

Thank you. And just one final question.

Could you be a little more specific on the timing of the rights offering you said mid-august we're basically here is it going to be this week or next week what's your timing on the on the execution of the of the rights offering for the shareholders yeah ross thanks for asking that question i was kind of expecting that one this morning um just just for you and everybody else that's listening that the the rights offering is coming there was um because of the restatement we wanted to make sure that we had updated reliable financials in all prior periods and current periods available to all investors so that you have a complete package of information for consideration before we launch the rights offering. Obviously, that's pushed the timing out on that a little bit, but now that we have everything filed or we'll have the second quarter 10Q will be filed later today, that kind of frees us up to move on to the rights offering components. So what we'll end up doing is preparing the communication that goes out to all of the shareholders of record as of may 12th and those communications we should have in hand or be ready to mail those next week coincidentally we also have the uh the full proxy which will be going out our annual shareholder meeting is scheduled for september 22nd so really we're going to have a full population of all important documents in hand for investors to look at um before they make a decision around the rights offer. So it is coming. I know it's taking a little bit longer than what we had initially wanted to do, but we wanted to make sure that we were checking all the boxes for everyone.

Ross Haberman Analyst — RLH Investment

So you're saying it's going to be pushed off to September? Is that what you're implying?

No, the rights offer, we'll launch that in August. I just wanted to mention when the shareholder meeting was, and that's in September.

Ross Haberman Analyst — RLH Investment

Got it. Thank you for your help, guys. Thank you very much. Sure. Excellent question, Ross.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Julianne Casarino, Sycamore Analytics. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Hi.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

Good morning.

Hi, Julianne. Morning. Hi.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

I'm just trying to cut through a lot of the noise in the quarter. On the call, you just said that of the $44 million pre-tax loss, $43.8 million came from the restructuring and non-recurring. So that implies still a loss for the quarter, excluding all one time, or what was the core earnings power in the quarter?

I think if I understand your question, the one-time items in the asset resolution component was $43.8 million. The total loss was $44 million. So the remaining operating loss to think about was about $200,000 for the quarter.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

And that was just a regular recurring operating loss, right? Is that correct?

Yeah, I think you can refer to that as B-Core, Julian.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

Okay. So we're really – the core earnings power that we're starting with is kind of zero right now, right? Or is there anything masking that? Is there any core earnings power on the non-resolution piece?

I will tell you this. As we look forward, essentially the things that we talked about, if you recall, I mentioned on the net interest margin, really on a core basis was 4.07%. So there's a lot more in terms of overall earnings revenue that we are expecting going forward, plus all of the components that Al talked about in terms of growth in the balance sheet, combined with continued efforts to reduce the bank's overall cost of funds. So I'd like to think about it from the standpoint that core earnings in the second quarter was just below break-even, but now that we have a clear path ahead, a lot of strength, a lot of good focus as far as what's coming the bank is positioned for profitable earnings going forward okay you know with operating leverage and stuff what about the tax rate so is there a deferred tax is there a dta valuation allowance that's been set up or or no no there's no there's no uh valuation allowance against the deferred tax asset uh truthfully and these are conversations that obviously we've had internally, the bank is positioned for a profitable growth going forward. And a new leadership team, a lot of strength is coming in. We believe that we will have no issues whatsoever in terms of reacquiring that asset in the future. So there is no valuation allowance at this time. Like I said, we continue to look at it, but at this time it is zero.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

Okay, so does that mean what tax rate to use going forward?

Tax rate for the quarter is about 25 percent.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

Okay. Okay. And so the quarter, and did that include the redemption payments of, I think, almost 10 million, right? The 9.7 million payments to redeem the, forgive me if I get the names wrong but basically the preferred holders um did that is that 9.7 million included yet that payment and is that pre-tax or after tax um like should we be adjusting the tce for that or the um the payout for the series a and series b which i think you're referring to um actually concluded this week so that will actually be a q3 event that's a q3 so is that that's totaled 9.7 million right is that pre-tax or after um it's a rejection it's not really an income state a component so um it's not uh not an early tip oh so but is it a tc does it come out of tangible common equity or no because it's from one bucket to another yes okay so no no impact on tc from that no impact on shares either right share count correct so the redemption payment is kind of going from one bucket to another don't don't need to adjust for that um what about the um the exchange too nothing to adjust for that the you mentioned 22.9 million shares from an exchange um but that's already like we don't have to adjust for that or is that a is that a third quarter um adjustment that we should make yeah it's a third quarter event but that mission preferred to comment And obviously, the share count is going to go up.

So if you're asking the tangible book value, you already have that dilution component baked into it.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

That's what I was asking. Now, so the only thing to adjust in the third quarter for tangible book for share is the rights offering. Is that correct?

That is correct. And obviously, we would like to maximize that for shareholders. But, you know, we're not sure how much we will get. We'll report that when it's done.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

So let's just assume everyone exercised. Everyone who could exercise is at 350, I believe it is. So what would be that impact on TCE and share count if everyone were to exercise? Is that something I can calculate?

Yeah, 350 at 4.1 million shares.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

4.1 million?

Yes.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

Okay. Okay. It was the 4.1 I think I needed to have. And then just to ask about the deposit franchise, you know, so you mentioned that you, you know, you've gone through the loan book pretty completely by now, but now the deposit franchise, is there, have you, have you finished the review of deposit or, you know, you mentioned in the press release, I think, like the earnings release, non-relationship customers. Are there about what percent of the deposit franchise right now would you estimate is non-relationship customers approximately?

It's, Julianne, it's very small. We have, we are strictly focused on relationship-based, I guess, depositors. And when I say relationship, it's not just the deposit side. in a lot of cases we also have lending relationships that's something that we have really been focused on and i think out there really nice job of explaining how we will go about that in the future uh the the key thing is in the past we had some relatively large what i'll call um well i'll just say it i mean they were more of a you know a place for you know for entities to park money we're paying them a very attractive rate to do it because it was funding business funding, loan growth around the SBA business. That's not what we're doing any longer. So, you know, we had conversations with those people. We said, look, we're not going to pay these rates anymore. They're out of market. Most of that money has left, and that was by design, as well as the runoff of the broker deposits that we have. And that was also part of our strategy.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

Right. So you'd say this quarter ends deposit franchise is what there's no more, transition to be done, you know, looking at the interest-free and the broker, you know, this is a good base to go forward.

Like, there's no more... Yeah, there's still some brokerage in there that's going to run off, but, you know, really, what's there, I'm going to call, you know, court deposits, I suppose.

Julianne Casarino Analyst — Sycamore Analytics

Right. And is it all local? Is it 100% local or about how much would you say is out of market? it just excluding the brokered so excluding brokered is it all um predominantly local customer it's local yes yeah these are people we know that you can drive for about an hour to go visit them okay great great and is there is any one customer more than uh or any one customer you know um five to ten percent or more of total deposits no okay great thank you so much thank with you.

You got it. Sure.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ian Green with Pendragon Capital Management. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Ian Green Analyst — Pendragon Capital Management

Hi, thank you. Lots of great questions here. I just wanted to kind of come back a little bit to some of the new initiatives like your treasury business and some other incentives to or initiatives to grow fee income um do you have the systems in place to do that is this going to require uh any significant um capital expenditures in technology and so forth um and i guess you know it's a very crowded space a lot of those businesses, where do you think you have the edge to compete?

Yeah. Hi, Ann. This is Robin. I'll take that one. We do already have the systems in place that we need. I think we have all the tools to be successful here. And if you look at, you know, our growth in 25 over 24, our treasury fee revenue grew about 75 percent year over year, and we're continuing to be on track to continue that increase this year. I think really what it is is we move up market a bit. You know, we are now, you know, really targeting our commercial business customers, and, you know, we are going to be banking some larger businesses than we have in the past, and those customers have more sophisticated needs. And, you know, basically, we're going to do their loan. We're going to get their operating account. And those operating accounts are just by the nature of the business going to come with Treasury. So I really think there's a strong opportunity there. And we have two different Treasury platforms, one for very small businesses and another that is more sophisticated. So I think we're well-sufficient.

Al Rogers CEO

Yeah, I'll add to that. Okay. This is Al. Talk about the edge. Our bankers know their customers. They're accessible. At 5 o'clock, they don't turn their cell phones off. So it's true relationships, solving problems, being accessible, being local, not outsourcing or customer support. And generally speaking, banking professional executives and small businesses and investors and companies, they generally have larger average balances and their cost of funds is generally lower. So, that comes with our initiative to, you know, act as a commercial bank, serving commercial customers in our community. So, it comes all together.

Ian Green Analyst — Pendragon Capital Management

Thanks. So, we shouldn't, so in the end, we shouldn't see a significant.

There won't be a significant investment. I mean, we will need to continue to expand the Treasury team. you know it's a small team today they're a small but mighty team but certainly you know the opportunities that this will provide will have need some additions to the team but we don't have investments in software or other things and certainly the revenue that we get from it you know should balance off the additional costs that we may have.

Operator

There are no more questions at this time. This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

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