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Earnings call · FY2026 Q2

Cadre Holdings, Inc. (CDRE) Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning and welcome to Cadre Holdings' second quarter 2026 conference call. Today's call is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute. If you would like to ask a question at the end of the prepared remarks, please press the star key, then the number one on your touchdown call. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Matt Berkowitz of the IGB Group for the introductions and the reading of the State Harbor Statement. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and welcome to today's conference call to discuss CADRE's second quarter results. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that during today's call, we will be making several forward-looking statements, and we make these statements under the Safe Harbor Provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements reflect our best estimates and assumptions based on our understanding of information known to us today. These forward-looking statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties that face CADRE and the industries and markets in which we operate. More information on potential factors that could affect CADRE's financial results is included from time to time in CADRE's public reports, followed by the Securities and Exchange Commission. Please note that we have posted presentation materials on our website at www.cadre-holdings.com, which supplement our comments this morning, and include a reconciliation of certain non-GAAP financial measures. i would like to remind everyone that this call will be available for replay through august 20 2026. a webcast replay will also be available via the link provided in yesterday's press release as well as on cadres website at this time i would like to turn the call over to cadres chairman and ceo warren candors good morning and thank you for joining cadres earnings call to discuss our results for the second quarter of 2026. i am joined today by our president brad williams

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and Chief Financial Officer, William Browers. We are pleased to report another quarter of significant financial and operational progress, reflecting the strength of our brands, the resilience of our end markets, and the consistent execution across the organization. During the second quarter, we generated year-over-year net sales growth of 32% and adjusted EBITDA growth of 56%, supported by strong and recurring demand for our mission critical safety products across the law enforcement first responder military and nuclear markets our performance through the first half of the year combined with our record orders black backlog and continued momentum reinforces our confidence in cadre's outlook as a result we have raised our 2026 guidance and are on track for full-year revenue and adjusted EBITDA to increase well above 20%. M&A remains a critical component of our long-term growth strategy. Since our IPO, we have taken a thoughtful and disciplined approach to building CADRE into a diversified multi-vertical provider of mission-critical safety products. Importantly, as CADRE has grown in scale, the size and breadth of opportunities we can consider has expanded as well. Earlier this year, we acquired Tier Tactical, our largest transaction since going public. With greater scale, stronger cash flow generation, expanded capabilities, and operations in more diverse markets, we can weigh a broader range of strategically significant opportunities today than we could several years ago. At the same time, our success is not dependent upon transaction size. The acquisition of Alien Gear, a recognized holster brand during the second quarter, demonstrates the value of smaller, highly complementary bolt-on acquisitions. Whether we are evaluating a larger strategic platform or a smaller add-on, the same principles guide our process. We seek businesses with leading and defensible market positions, strong margins, mission-critical products, recurring revenues and cash flows, and clear opportunities to create value with the CADRE operating model. We remain patient, selective, and disciplined as we advance our M&A funnel and expect at least one more acquisition in 2026. 6. Cadre enters the second half of the year from a position of strength. We have greater scale, a more diversified portfolio, and an expanding set of organic and inorganic growth opportunities. Supported by our strong balance sheet and consistent free cash flow generation, we believe we are well positioned to enhance our market leadership moving forward and deliver sustainable long-term value for our shareholders with that thank you for being with us today and i will turn the call over to brad brad over to you thank you warren on today's call blaine and i will provide a q2 update and business overview including recent trends and financial performance as well as our increased guidance for the remainder of 2026 followed by a Q&A session.

We'll begin on slide five with key takeaways from the second quarter. First and foremost, we've delivered outstanding financial results. Net sales, gross profit, and adjusted EBITDA all increased significantly this quarter. Our performance reflects the strong execution and dedication of our talented teams around the world, and I want to thank our employees for their continued commitment to our customers and our mission. We delivered 5% organic top-line growth in Q2, and our backlog increased to a new record level for the second consecutive quarter. Putting this backlog growth into context, it represents an important forward indicator and gives us confidence in the upwardly revised 2026 outlook that Blaine will discuss shortly. Turning to the fourth and fifth bullets on the slide, I want to highlight two major wins for CADRE. First, as you will recall, our MED-IN subsidiary was awarded a five-year, $50 million IDIQ contract last year to deliver and support the Blast Exposure Monitoring, or BMO, program with the U.S. military. We are pleased to share that we obtained a second purchase order valued at $8.4 million for this program. The second purchase order brings our total today to $18.4 million received for the BMO program. Consistent with our commitment to innovation and mission of Together We Save Lives, this program is a testament to MedEng's ability to develop best-in- class products that keep users safe in the line of duty. MedEng is the most trusted brand in the industry and at the forefront of efforts to better understand and mitigate blast exposure in the field moving forward. The second major win in the quarter was the selection of Safariland's SX-HP ballistic panel, introduced in 2025, as the ballistic package for the FBI. Chosen over 11 competing products following a rigorous evaluation process, our ballistic panel has been integrated into Predictive Ballistics Overt Armor Kit. Predictive Ballistics was awarded a five-year, $61 million IDIQ contract to supply the kit, which is also available to the U.S. Marshalled Service, the DEA, and other Department of Justice agencies. This is an important win that expands our presence within a key customer segment and underscores our continued commitment to innovation. The selection also validates the performance of our SXHP panel, which combines a thin, lightweight design with a high level of ballistic protection. We're encouraged by the strong customer feedback and the potential for broader adoption across state, local, and federal law enforcement agencies. Next, touching briefly on our nuclear vertical, our businesses are performing well and we expect continued strong demand moving forward. Our backlog has increased 13 million dollars since the start, since the end of last year, driven by continued multi-directional support across all three nuclear market segments which I'll address more in a moment. Wrapping up our Q2 key takeaways I'd like to also emphasize our commitment to further enhancing CADRE's market leadership through discipline M&A. We maintain a robust pipeline across both public safety and nuclear and look forward to capitalizing on attractive opportunities ahead. Turning now to slide six we lay out industry tailwinds supporting CADRE's long-term growth opportunity across our two verticals. On the law enforcement side, we see rising safety threats globally coupled with resilient and growing spend on life-saving equipment. In both the U.S. and in Europe, support for public safety is bipartisan. On the next slide, we outline more current dynamics in our core market. Overall, we continue to see favorable near-term trends. Last quarter, we zoomed in our company-owned distribution segment and noted some softness in demand for discretionary products. During the second quarter, we were pleased to see distribution segment demand normalized, helping drive organic growth toward the high end of our 3% to 5% range. While we continue to monitor municipal budget pressures, public safety spending has historically proven very resilient with mission-critical equipment prioritized. Consistent with that trend, we have not seen any evidence of a meaningful pullback in demand for CADRE products since they're mission critical turning to slide eight I'd like to spend some time discussing our nuclear vertical and the robust activity we're seeing across the sector governments and agencies globally continue to prioritize environmental remediation and nuclear cleanup initiatives all national defense modernization programs support sustained investment in nuclear safety infrastructure and protective solutions. For CADRE Nuclear Group, National Security serves as a funded growth engine. The budget request of $32.8 billion from the National Nuclear Security Administration, part of the U.S. Department of Energy, represents a 29 percent increase year-over-year. Weapons modernization and plutonium pit production form the core of the multibillion-dollar overhaul of the U.S. nuclear arsenal. The U.S. aims to manufacture at least 80 pits per year split between the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and the Savannah River site in South Carolina to support new warhead designs. The NNSA budget and pit production mandates support demand for cadre products across containers, ventilation and containment, remote handling, and criticality alarm systems. While the downblending executive order that we have spoken about previously costs some margin and mixed pressure confined to one subsegment, it impacts less than 8% of our nuclear revenue. It absolutely does not reflect a break in our nuclear safety business demand. Similar to our core business, quarter-to-quarter program timing can affect segment results on a near-term basis. But overall, we continue to see very healthy multi-year demand trends. This is led by national defense priorities and persistent decade-long environmental cleanup work. As you've heard it described by us before, the commercial nuclear renaissance is the cherry on top. We're encouraged by the accelerating investment backdrop supported by government and commercial commitments to expand nuclear capacity and rising power demand from AI and data centers. The opportunity for CADRE builds on established products and customer relationships, and we maintain a follow-the-fuel strategy. Current funnel opportunities in this area include nuclear ventilation and containment systems as well as criticality of accident alarm systems. While still early and not yet as material to revenue, we believe the nuclear energy resurgence represents attractive long-term optionality alongside the larger national defense and environmental management demand drivers. Overall, our thesis on the nuclear opportunity is unchanged. We view nuclear safety as a set of durable in-markets across three segments with long-term demand tied to policy and commercial tailwinds. With that, I'll now turn the call over to our CFO, Blaine Browers, to speak more about M&A, Cadre's Q1 financial results, and 2026 outlook.

Thanks, Brad. Before turning to the quarter, I'll kick off my comments with a review of our M&A strategy. Over the last four years, we have deployed approximately $455 million across seven transactions, including the recent acquisition of Alien Gear holsters completed in the quarter. This activity reflects the disciplined and patient approach we have consistently applied to M&A. We're not interested in pursuing growth for its own sake, but instead selectively adding businesses that strengthen our portfolio and enhance CADRE's long-term earnings and cash flow profile. For each of these transactions, we have maintained a high bar for strategic and financial fit. Turning to the next slide, we highlight the key criteria that guide our process when evaluating potential acquisitions. We are steadfast in our commitment to businesses with strong margins, leading and defensible market positions, recurring revenue characteristics, and durable cash generation. We also look for opportunities where the CADRE operating model can drive value creation. We enter the balance of 2026 with a substantial financial flexibility and a robust pipeline of potential acquisitions. We continue to target transactions focused on complementary capabilities, new market access, and greater penetration of our existing customer base. Turning now to a summary of Cadre's financial performance, slide 12, details our second quarter results. Q2 net sales of $207.1 million increased 32% year-over-year and 5% organically with strong growth in armor, duty gear, nuclear, and distribution. Gross profit of $87.1 million was up 36% year-over-year, with gross margins expanding 120 basis points year-over-year and 209 basis points when you adjust for inventory step-up amortization. Second quarter adjusted EBITDA increased 56% year-over-year. Of note, second quarter net income includes $2 million of inventory step-up amortization and $5.9 million of contingent consideration expense. Also, FX headwinds of $6.6 million adversely impacted bottom-line earnings in Q2. As we expected, we saw a significant increase in revenue and profitability sequentially from Q1. As Brad indicated earlier, we were proud of the team's ability to execute on their demand. A few of the businesses had the opportunity to ship product earlier than expected, and they were able to take advantage of those opportunities within the quarter. We broadly saw upside in most of the core portfolio, including armor, duty gear, nuclear, and crowd control. In addition, we are pleased to see both tier tactical and alien gear execute above our expectations in the quarter, contributing to outstanding results. Illustrated on slide 13 is net sales and adjusted EBITDA growth year over year, including our upwardly revised 2026 guidance, which I'll discuss more in a moment. Our full-year outlook now implies year-over-year revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth of 24.4% and 26.7%, respectively, at the midpoints. You can see that over the last several years, CADRE has delivered consistent and stable growth. Our resilience is a key differentiator with businesses that are largely unaffected by economic, political, geopolitical, and other cycles. On slide 14, we present our capital structure as of June 30, 2026. Our net leverage was down to two and a half times. We believe CADRE's strong free cash flow generation, coupled with the strength of our balance sheet, gives us ample financial flexibility to continue to pursue organic and inorganic opportunities. We provide our increased 2026 outlook on slide 17. Net sales are now expected to be between $749 million and $769 million, and our adjusted EBITDA guidance is between $139 million and $144 million, implying adjusted EBITDA margins of 18.6%. Our guidance now fully incorporates AlienGear and reflects our improved view of full-year revenue and profitability. We still expect organic revenue growth to be in the 3% to 5% range on a full-year basis. As Brad mentioned earlier in our call, our strong backlog exiting Q2 and the team's execution into Q2 gives us confidence in our full-year guidance. We expect Q3 revenue to be around $190 million with adjusted EBITDA margins of about 18%, which implies that Q4 will have a very similar profile to Q2. overall our businesses are performing well and we expect continued strong demand in 2026 across our core markets and public safety and nuclear safety i'll now turn it back to brad for concluding comments thank you blaine in closing as you can see on slide 16 we executed well across all facets of the business during the second quarter we exceeded our pricing target benefited from favorable product mix and increased backlog by 13 million dollars sequentially supported by strong demand from for our EOD products.

We also completed the acquisition of ailing gear holsters and continue to advance a healthy M&A funnel. Looking forward, we are focused on strengthening our portfolio, further implementing the CADRE operating model throughout the organization, and building demand across our core markets in public safety, defense, and nuclear safety.

Operator

Our improved outlook for 2026 reflects our confidence in the opportunities ahead. we look forward to continuing to update you on our progress with that operator please up the lines for Q&A thank you ladies and gentlemen at this time we will be conducting the question-and-answer session to ask a question you may press star 1 in a touchstone phone and so we enjoy your question please press star 1 again if you are using a speakerphone please leave me handset before pressing any case. One moment, please, while we gather questions. Our first question comes from the line of Tomo Sano from J.P. Morgan. Sir, your line is open.

Tomo Sano Analyst — J.P. Morgan

Hi. Good morning, everyone. Congrats on a quarter. Thank you, Tomo. Thank you. Could you talk about breaking down the 13 million year-to-day increase in nuclear backlog across environmental management, national defense, and commercial nuclear? And if you could give us more color, the key drivers in each, please.

Great question, Tomo. Majority of the increase we've seen through this quarter has really been in the commercial nuclear energy and environmental remediation. We've talked quite a bit previously that we started to see the funnel increase in those areas, in particular commercial nuclear, and that's really what we're seeing is the team's hard work and efforts building that up. We've also seen a nice pickup in Europe, particularly around northern Europe, around some of the projects they have going there, which is environmental remediation. So that first part of the comment was more U.S.-based around commercial nuclear energy and the environmental remediation in the U.S., but we're also seeing strength on that environmental remediation, you know, in the U.S. when it comes to backlog. You know, I also would like to point out on the commercial nuclear side, you know, from revenue coming out of Europe, you know, we did see very positive strength and momentum in the quarter, you know, on the revenue side. They had the backlog coming into the quarter. So when you think about it geographically, both in the U.S. as well as Europe, we are seeing that strength both really on that commercial nuclear component of it as well as the environmental remediation.

Tomo Sano Analyst — J.P. Morgan

Thank you. And just one follow-up. Given that mix, how should we think about nuclear margin quality in back half and beyond? And when should CADRE operating model benefits begin to show up over the next couple of quarters?

When we think about the margins, there is a pretty large degree of mix within the nuclear platform, as we've referenced prior. Looking for the back half, I would say on the U.S. side of the business, we would expect the back half to look very similar to Q2 margin. They had a little bit lower margin in Q1, so they'll first half, second half will improve between those two. On the more European side of the business, Q2 was favorable margin or favorable mix in the quarter driven by some of the robotic arms.

We don't expect that to recur, so we expect the European side to look more like we saw in Q1, which would be slightly down on a margin basis, just really returning to normal mix thank you in terms of the country operating model portion of the question so on the nuclear side of things whether it was the acquisition we made from cars group PLC in the UK or the alpha safety acquisition they're all in the early stages of the operating model so most of the focus is on you know your standard delivery quality safety inventory that side of things. So from a cost perspective showing up, you know, at the top level, you know, from a cadre view, I don't expect to see that this year as they continue to progress through the model.

Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Yep. You're welcome. Thank you, Toma.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Larry Solo from SayJS Securities. Please go All right.

Larry Solo Analyst — SayJS Securities

Congrats guys on a really nice quarter. I'm just curious on the upside in the quarter and I guess on the outlook, maybe combine that with just the bookings question, in the backlog it seems like a lot of it is going up on the ELD and sensors and robots, but just curious what's driving the upside this quarter this year and, you know, how your general, your law enforcement-based business is doing.

Yeah. You know, on the, I guess, kind of Q2, you know, stellar performance by the team, I'd really split it in half, not a 50-50 split, but really two components driving it. You know, the first, the really core public safety businesses, yeah, I've been a part of Cadre since the beginning, the crowd control, the duty gear, and armor businesses all had very strong quarters, right? Some of that is demand that we received within the quarter. That was unexpected. But a big portion of two was pull-aheads where the team, I'd say pull-aheads, but really shipments earlier than expected where we had taken a view that customer would want to order in Q3. As we progressed through the quarter, the customer then changed their expectations or requested an earlier shipment, and the teams were able to execute on it, which, you know, again, we're very thankful and, frankly, proud of the team for the, you know, the size of that swing of the movement. The second component is, you know, the acquisitions, you know, both Alien Gear and Tier really had a phenomenal quarter, and, you know, I think it gives us a lot of confidence as we get into guidance to increase that outlook based on how those businesses have performed year to date. So we're very excited with the quarter. The backlog complexion, it becomes a bit kind of outsized on the EOD, right? We've had a very, very significant demand on the EOD side of the world, which has really driven those numbers up quite a bit. But even when you peel that back a layer remove you know that that outsized impact we're still compared to year-end you know we're still seeing really significant you know 10-15 percent growth in the armor business backlog you know a very sizable increase in the duty gear backlog you know larger than that and then an increase in nuclear as brad mentioned of almost 13 million dollars so you look across there and i would say from a backlog perspective everyone is ahead of where where we would have expected them you know through the year so again kind of going back to guidance it gives us

Larry Solo Analyst — SayJS Securities

a lot of confidence in the back half of the year okay oh great and i guess plan while i got you here uh question of you i'll just follow up the gross margins um 42.6 in the quarter and i guess 43.8 if you head back to the step up which is a really nice year-over-year improvement and your revenue grew a lot but a lot of that was inorganic um and so nothing maybe a little bit of unusual you said some pull forward so maybe that helped the margins a little bit i guess how should we you know maybe you can just give us a little bit of color on the strength in this quarter and how we should think about the margins going forward sure yeah yeah thanks larry the a few

components inside the quarter-arm margin. One, I referenced when Tom asked the question about revenue, that we had significant favorable mix in the Zerkiloy side of the world, particularly robotic arms. So those margins were up pretty significantly, and we expect them to normalize in the back half. There was a lot of volume leverage, and this is true in our model, where as the volume upticks, whether it's gross margin or EBITDA, there's quite a bit of leverage there. So I think as you're kind of – you didn't ask, but kind of thinking about the back half, I think Q4 with a similar volume could have a very similar profile to Q2. But we think as we move into Q3 with a little bit lower revenue and mixed returning, that we'll have a little bit of kind of return – reversion to the mean, essentially. Okay.

Larry Solo Analyst — SayJS Securities

I appreciate that calling.

Thanks, Larry.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Sheila from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Adam Samuelson Analyst — Jefferies

This is Adam Samuelson. I'm on for Sheila. Good morning. So I guess the first question is just thinking about the organic growth outlook. You highlighted about 5% organic in Q2, kind of alongside the normalization and distribution demand. Can you just help us think about the underlying demand trends you're seeing across public safety and nuclear end markets and how you think – how sustainably do you think that organic growth rate is into early 2027?

Hey, good morning. This is Brad. Thanks for the question. So, you know, the outlook is positive when you look across the macros, whether it's the nuclear macros that I spent some time on the prepared remarks or from a public safety perspective you know all indications have been you know continued focus on our products because the safety side of what those products are so demand seems strong it continues to be strong it looks good as we you know look forward both on the nuclear side and also in the public safety piece you know we've shown that through the winds that we've announced over the past uh you know six or eight months um you know i talked about fbi uh when that we're a part of

Adam Samuelson Analyst — Jefferies

we've had the bemo the sensor win uh we've also had a that we talked about last time which was a large uh ballistic seat uh win overall with gdls uh and we've got other ones that are queued up too so um you know we're positive on the outlook um okay that that's helpful and then just as we think about the revenue outlook for the balance of the year, just with the backlog that you have and momentum coming out of Q2 and that end market commentary, just help us think about kind of what occurs to get you to the high end versus the low end of the revenue guidance range at this point.

Yeah, I think to get to the high end, there's always a number of what we consider large order projects. And, you know, a lot of those are binary, right? You either went into your don't. And when we think about our range and, you know, putting together the kind of internal forecast and external guidance, it's really risk rating some of those opportunities. And so it's not just one macro driver or one particular business. You know, I'd say majority of our businesses have the the potential to contribute to that high-end guidance um and again we're having that we have that positive momentum we've seen that backlog build um so everything points in a very positive direction for us um but with that said you know a lot of these are government procurement based right there's always the risk that you know something gets delayed a week or two weeks um not that we won't get the award but it gets delayed and you know that can shift revenue so So we're taking what we feel is a cautious approach on the outlook, want to ensure we have a high say-do and try to mitigate some of those out-of-our-control risks that could occur.

Adam Samuelson Analyst — Jefferies

Okay, that's all very helpful. I'll pass it on. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Jeff Ben, Cynthia Ram, from V-Reilly Securities. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone. um realizes relatively small revenues but it sounds like alien gear is running strong right out of the gate for you uh can you speak about what's driving that business and then what contribution should we be thinking about going forward from alien yeah great question jeff um so definitely ahead of expectations you know we were cautious we talked about last uh we talked previously about being cautious with the acquisition because it was a company alien gear is a company coming out of bankruptcy bit different situation that can send you know mixed signals to the customer base so that's why we we started out being cautious with some of those expectations I feel like the alien gear team and the Safari land duty gear team have done a really really good job you know communicating you know the fact that it's business as usual within the businesses overall as we work to do the integration work our plans are not to eliminate the alien gear brand we've been very very clear on that the alien gear brand we made that acquisition because we do think it is a strong brand in the consumer market and then also within its customer base within the professional side of things so I feel like the team's done a really nice job out of the gates with that side of things now where can it land so we're in the early days of integration activities we've already completed the what I call the consumer integration activity where we've taken the alien gear team and and analyzed what alien gear does from a consumer side of things we've combined the team with the Safari land consumer team and those teams are fully integrated now and they're executing and on their strategies that they've developed. So that one is done at this point. The next one that we've also communicated, unfortunately for the team up in Idaho, we've made an announcement that we're closing the Eilinger facility there. That is their only manufacturing location. We completed those discussions and we'll take the next 12 to 18 months to then move that facility and integrate it into the Safariland manufacturing infrastructure where we have significant scale, you know, globally within Duty Gear around the world. So that one has been communicated. And then the last one is the professional side of things. That one is going to take longer as we work with, you know, both teams at Safariland and also Alien Gear through those strategies. So things are going well. And then where will we eventually land? You should expect, you know, overall the margins that we see for the Alien Gear business to be more like cadre-type margins as we work on, you know, the various activities that I just talked about.

And then, Jeff, as far as expectations for the year for Alien Gear, you know, we have them in. They did about $4.8 million in the quarter. We have them baked into the guide at $11 million. dollars. I think, you know, we're still, it's, you know, been about a quarter with them. It's been great out of the gates, but still a bit of cautiousness to make sure there's no overhang coming out of bankruptcy.

Speaker 9

Okay. Okay. Great to hear. And then can you remind us on the FBI panels, when do we expect the first panels to get delivered to the FBI? And then just Just wondering, are the DEA or some of these other agencies, are they aware of that product?

Absolutely. When you look at that program, as I mentioned, the prepared remarks, other agencies can buy off of that program. So that IDIQ that I mentioned covers multiple agencies, so they are aware of that. In terms of when shipments will begin, we've already received demand on that program, so it's already started. We're not in what I would call a stabilized demand environment at this point. The Safariland team's working with predictive ballistics that won the award on nailing down what that demand looks like overall with the FBI for at least the next six months out. keep in mind that $60-plus million IDAQ is over a five-and-a-half-year period. So that's the length of time for it.

Speaker 9

Okay, that's helpful. Thanks for taking my questions.

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Andrew Analyst — Bank of America

Good morning. This is Andrew on for Ron.

Thank you for taking our questions. uh given the higher margin expectations in the second half uh you know near those 20 percent levels what products are driving that expansion is it armor or duty gear or something else in particular no it's i would say it's nothing in particular the back half will be you know margin gross margin even a rate consistent with what we saw in q2 um so when you look at the first half that pressure is is really q1 based and really really based upon volumes so as those volumes have ticked up to normal rates you know we look ahead and say you know frankly you know margins that someone asked the question earlier we gross margins kind of slightly down even a margin slightly down q3 and then q4 a similar profile to q2 so we look at it looks very normalized it's just that that q1 was you know a bit of a tougher quarter based on volume and mix so it's nothing um nothing abnormal um in fact i would say it's it's more normal mix than abnormal gotcha gotcha um and if i could just seek in second one um you know it seems like the m&a pipeline is strong and obviously the company is positioned financially to capitalize on the right opportunity uh what specific add-on

Andrew Analyst — Bank of America

capabilities or market access really interests you guys. Is there a certain region or type of product? I'd appreciate any color there. Thanks.

Yeah. So, you know, it's when we look at regions or products. So first of all, we're focused on the two in markets that we're in today. So on the nuclear front and also on public safety, you know, we do get the questions sometimes, you know, know, are we done with public safety? The answer is no. There's plenty of additional opportunities out there in the public safety side of things. But we're looking for those same characteristics that, you know, that we've talked about in the past in terms of M&A criteria. So we look for, you know, replacement cycle type revenue, recurring revenue, obviously, you know, high margin that meets our margin thresholds. We're not scared of what we call fix-it type businesses. But if we do those, we have to make sure that we've got a clear path to the cadre level type margins overall. High cash flow is also important on our list so that we can obviously use that to continue to fund additional M&A and pay down debt as we go along. So that's the generic criteria that we have, and it applies whether it's on the nuclear side or the public safety side. So we're excited about the funnel we're excited about what's in there keep in mind that you know similar to the prepared remarks that you know alien gear was a nice smaller bolt-on that we feel like we can leverage our you know our scale that we have within the Safari land brand within duty gear and then radar holster company over in Italy and you know that's also an option for us as we go forward you know potential bolt-ons that we can add and you know feel like that we can add its significant value to. So that's what we look for.

Andrew Analyst — Bank of America

Thank you very much. You're welcome. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And our last question is from Matt Coranda from Roth Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hey, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in. On the, I guess, the 5% organic growth in the second quarter. Can you just parse out, I guess, organic growth between nuclear and the public safety side of the business? And also, I guess just further than that, I was wondering, I guess you guys were talking last quarter about some headwinds in container solutions, I think around some of the alpha products, but it doesn't sound like maybe that's the case anymore. Maybe can you just talk a little bit about what has changed in that end market, I guess, in the last couple of months that's driving improvement?

Absolutely. Thanks for the question, Matt. On organic, public safety was just a touch below 5%. Nuclear was actually high singles, low double digits. So for nuclear, we had essentially two months and a quarter of Zircaloy baked into the organic just those first couple weeks of April as inorganic. And then distribution had a good quarter as well, right? So they were right there at mid-single digits. So it wasn't outsized contribution from any one particular space, but kind of broadly strength across the public safety, nuclear, and distribution side.

So, again, that gives us a lot of confidence that it's broad-based and it helps support the back half. it's not one particular business unit okay and then Matt your question on the nuclear side of things just kind of go back what we talked about previously it was with reference to alpha safety and a portion of the alpha safety business that there was an executive order around down blending that reduced some of the volume that we have in the container side of things you know to be clear on that, that affects less than 8% of the revenue within our nuclear portfolio of businesses overall. There was more of an effect on mix from a margin perspective, but from a demand perspective, you know, it's not concerning to us. You know, when we look at the pickup and demand that we've seen in other areas, for example, I think we may have touched on it, but, you know, manual manipulators within the Weissmiller business in Germany is running really hot right now, you know, in terms of nuclear fuel type applications where manual manipulators are being used within those applications for hot sales. So, you know, just to put it in perspective again, it's less than 8% that we saw the executive order effect from a top-line perspective, and then we're seeing an offset within other types of applications within nuclear. And then just to keep in mind that, you know, when we're talking the nuclear cleanup side of things, I mean, there are still, you know, you can take different estimates, but 50, 60 plus years of cleanup activity that still has to take place, you know, within the U.S. and within other countries. So even though the downblending executive order came out, there's still work that's being done for that cleanup, and then there's a volume of that cleanup that will continue to increase over time.

Speaker 10

Very clear and now full on that one, Brad. Thanks. And then, I guess, shifting gears to tier, I was curious if you guys are finding any new or interesting commercial synergies now that you've been integrating that business for a bit.

Just curious to hear, I guess, a little bit about the growth trajectory of that business and any successful sort of quotation activity you've had. yeah there's uh actually we're having fun quite frankly with the tier business and the safari land teams uh coming together uh when you look at the uh the strengths that both teams have and how those can be leveraged across the board and there's four or five projects that have been kicked off among among the teams that they're working together on some of those i can't go into great detail because um you know it it um you know externally can affect um you know what we're doing at both of those companies. But in general, what we're seeing is some products within the tier portfolio that the team's working on, you know, future steps on, you know, those products that can be sold within the Safariland channels, which would be great. So they fill some gaps within the Safariland side of things, keeping in mind that the Safariland revenue, as we've talked about in the past, and the makeup, the customer makeup of that revenue is the polar opposite of tiers so it gives a really good opportunity to take any products that tier has that there might be some gaps in product lines within safariland and use those to fill those gaps so that's one we actually have some opportunities within the Med Eng business you probably wouldn't have thought that where you know we have ballistics within the Med Eng product portfolio within our bomb suits and other products. And so with TIER's capital capabilities that we've referenced in the past, they're one of very few folks around the world that have the type of capital that they have and the capability. It gives us an opportunity also then to use TIER to potentially be involved in various new product development projects with MedEng, for example, which is one active project that's going on today. I could go on and on, Matt. There's a list of five or six items that the team has on being executed as we speak and working through. And then when we get to the point that those become visible externally, we can reference those more and talk about those.

Speaker 10

Maybe just last one, if I could sneak one more in. On the acquisition front, um maybe does the the level of of net leverage that you have right now constrain you to doing tuck-ins is that the way to think about um you know m&a activity for the rest of the year or are there bigger items that you could kind of get done um that maybe we're just not thinking creatively enough yeah good question matt you know we've said our upper end of leverage is really three and a half right so that gives us you know quite a bit of dry powder for acquisitions we've also said right to get to that to get into that kind of three times leverage leverage kind of area you know we'd have to have

we have to be really comfortable with a quick kind of pay down so yeah I think that's you know a bit of status quo we would look at it and say you know we've closed here right we've delivered from theirs you know we've picked up the earnings, you know, the last quarter and a half. And we have lots of capability, but, you know, the right tuck-in is always compelling. You know, Alien Gear is a great example of that, where, you know, fairly small deal, yeah, just over $10 million, but really very compelling when you think about it, you know, post-synergy. So, you know, we're going to be, you know, obviously doing our diligence. We're going to be a bit opportunistic if the right, you know, bolt-on or tuck-in comes along, you know, those become a, you know, very easier to do with a high level of confidence. And at the same time, we have the tripod or to look at, you know, bigger deals in the back half of the year. Okay. I appreciate it, guys.

Operator

Thank you. I will now hand the call over to Mr. Brad Williams for closing remarks.

Thank you, Operator. I'd like to thank everyone again for joining us on today's call and for your continued interest in cadre.

Operator

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