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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the First Commonwealth Financial Corporation Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Release Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during that time, press star, followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star, followed by the number 1. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I will now hand today's call over to Ryan Thomas, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you, Tamika, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss First Commonwealth Financial Corporation's second quarter financial results. Participating on today's call will be Mike Price, President and CEO, Jim Reske, Chief Financial Officer, Jane Grebemps, Bank President and Chief Revenue Officer, Brian Sahaki, Chief Credit Officer, and Mike McEwen, Chief Lending Officer. As a reminder, a copy of yesterday's earnings release can be accessed by logging on to fcbanking.com and selecting the Investor Relations link at the top of the page. We've also included a slide presentation on our Investor Relations website with supplemental information that will be referenced during today's call. Before we begin, I need to caution listeners that this call will contain forward-looking statements. Please refer to our forward-looking statements disclaimer on page three of the slide presentation for a description of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to defer materially from those reflected in the forward-looking statement. Today's call will also include non-GAAP financial measures. Non-GAAP financial measures should be viewed in addition to and not as an alternative of four are reported results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliation of these measures can be found in the appendix of today's slide presentation. And with that, I will turn the call over to Mike.
Thank you, Ryan. We are generally pleased with our performance this quarter. Our core earnings per share of $0.38 surpasses consensus estimates by $0.03 cents and was an improvement from the 32 cents reported in the first quarter. Our headline financial metrics were robust with core return assets of 1.31%, a core pre-tax pre-provision ROA of 1.95% and a core efficiency ratio of 54.1%. We've consistently worked towards building a high-performing franchise. This quarter's results reflect those efforts and occur just one year after absorbing a $13 million downdraft in annualized debit card interchange income due to the Durbin Amendment as we crossed $10 billion in assets. Let me highlight a few key drivers this quarter, many of which build on the trends we've discussed in past calls. First, our net interest margin expanded significantly from 3.62% in the first quarter to 3.83% in the second quarter, a 21 basis point increase. This was driven primarily by improved loan yields and lower deposit costs and aided by the center bank acquisition and the roll-off of the macro hedges. This margin expansion, coupled with strong loan growth of 8.1% annualized, fueled a $10.7 million increase in net interest income over last quarter to $106.2 million. We've said before that our focus on optimizing our balance sheet and driving high quality loan growth would position us well in a dynamic rate environment and we're seeing those efforts bear fruit loan growth was broad based with standout performance and equipment finance alongside meaningful contributions from small business commercial indirect and branch lending perhaps even more importantly we grew both deposits and loans in four of our six geographic markets. On the fee income side, we saw a $2.1 million increase in non-interest income to $24.7 million, with strong contributions from mortgage, SBA, interchange, wealth, and other service charges. The growth reflects our ongoing efforts to deepen customer relationships and expand our non-interest income streams. Our deposit franchise remains a cornerstone of our bank. Total deposits grew 9% year-to-date, reaching $10.1 billion. Notably, our community Pennsylvania region, which accounts for 37% of our deposit funding, continues to perform exceptionally well. And we're pleased with our continual progress in Ohio, where organic growth and small but strategic acquisitions have built a $4 billion bank. Bank, Ohio also accounts for the bulk of our new loan growth. The integration of Center Bank, which closed on May 1st and converted in early June, is progressing smoothly. Center added $295 million in loans and $278 million in deposits, bolstering our presence in Cincinnati. We're confident the long-term value of this acquisition will enhance our Ohio franchise, as as we've seen with prior integrations. On the credit front, we experienced the continuation of positive trends in charge-offs and delinquency. Our second quarter provision expense was $12.6 million, with $3.8 million tied to day one CECL provision for Center Bank, which we've excluded from our core income metrics. Of the remaining $8.8 million in provision expense, $2.6 million dollars can be attributed to a net increase in specific reserves, which was driven by a $4.2 million specific reserve for a single commercial floor plan loan that was moved to non-accrual and reserved for in the quarter. With respect to the floor plan credit, we are operating under a forbearance agreement, and as it remains an active workout, we appreciate your understanding that will not be able to provide a lot of further detail on today's call. The impact of this single credit in the inclusion of center caused non-performing loans to increase by 40 million, $40.1 million from the prior quarter. Absent these two events, our core credit metrics for criticized, classified, and non-performing loans were all neutral quarter over quarter. Looking ahead, we remain optimistic about our trajectory. The momentum we've built through disciplined execution, strategic acquisitions, a regional business model, and a customer-centric approach positions us well for the second half of 2025 and beyond. As we've said before, our goal is to be the leading community bank in our markets, delivering value to our stakeholders while staying true to our mission of improving the financial lives of our customers and communities. I'll now turn it over to Jim Reske for a more detailed review of our financials. Jim?
Thanks, Mike. As Mike mentioned, the second quarter of 2025 was a strong quarter for us. Our earnings performance was driven by an expanding margin and strong fee income, so I'll focus on those two areas and wrap up with some brief thoughts on expenses and capital, the net interest margin, or NIM, expanded 21 basis points to 3.83%. We closed our acquisition of Center Bank during the quarter, so the natural question is, how much of that NIM improvement comes from the acquisition? Center's impact prior to Mark's was actually fairly neutral, which is not that surprising, considering that its first quarter NIM was almost the same as ours, just three basis points less, and it was a relatively small acquisition for us. The marks on their loan portfolio, however, added four basis points to our NIM in the second quarter. Of that four basis points, two were related to the acceleration of marks related to loan prepayments, but the other two should continue. All of that means that most of our NIM expansion was due to our organic banking business. We did have the benefit of a maturity of $150 million in macro swaps for two-thirds of the quarter, which added about three basis points to NIM in the second quarter and should add another two basis points next quarter. The rest of the NIM expansion was split between assets and liabilities, with nine basis points of the increase coming from assets and five from liabilities. New organic loan growth was strong at 8% annualized, And those loans came out of the books at rates that were 42 basis points higher than the ones that ran off. The cost of deposits fell by eight basis points. But we had increased borrowings by the end of the quarter, so the total drop in the cost of funds was only five basis points. Our forward NIM guidance this quarter is based on a revised baseline forecast that now contemplates two Fed cuts by year end, down from three in last quarter's forecast. And in that case, we'd expect our NIM to expand to the low to mid-390s by the end of the year, give or take a few basis points as always. If there are no cuts at all, the NIM would expand another five basis points on top of that by the end of 2025. That guidance includes an additional two basis points in the third quarter of 2025 from the macro swaps that matured last quarter, plus macro swap maturities of $25 million on August 25th, $25 million on October 10th, and $50 million on November 5th. It also reflects expected pressure on loan spread and the need to price deposits to fund our loan growth. Also, with the loan growth, the acquired center portfolio, and the improved margin, we believe that our net interest income should be between 110 to 115 million dollars per quarter for the remainder of 2025. Turning now to fee income, our non-interest income increased by 2.2 million dollars over the last quarter. There are about 600,000 dollars of items here worth mentioning. First, we had about 375,000 dollars in gains on the sale of Oriel properties in the quarter. There's only about a million dollars of Oreo left in our books, so I wouldn't count on outsized Oreo games again anytime soon. Second, the $436,000 increase in Boley income includes $166,000 from a death claim, while the rest of the increase comes from higher crediting rates on the Boley portfolio. Other than that, our fee income improvements in the quarter were broad-based, and as Mike mentioned, included improved performance in fee-income businesses like mortgage, SBA, and wealth. Turning now to expenses, operating expense, which excludes merger expense, was up by about $1.1 million from last quarter. Increased salary expense associated with the newly acquired center employees was offset by lower incentive expense compared to last quarter, leaving the salary and benefits line item relatively unchanged. Some of the increased expense that shows up in other this quarter was associated with increased loan volume in areas like SBA. Finally, with regard to capital, capital ratios improved due to retained earnings, along with a reduction in AOCI. Our tangible book value per share grew by 7.3% annualized from the previous quarter. There's very little buyback activity in the second quarter, but we ended the quarter with $6.2 million of share repurchase authority and just obtained an additional $25 million in Sherry Purchase Authority from our board yesterday. And with that, we'll take any questions you may have.
At this time, if you would like to ask a question, press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If your question has been answered and you would like to remove yourself from the queue, press star followed by the number one. Your first question is from the line of Daniel Tameo with Raymond James.
Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Um, I, uh, I apologize, Jim. Did you give a, uh, a guidance range for expenses in the third quarter or the back half of the You know, I didn't, Danny.
I looked at the expenses and the, um, expenses and the consensus seemed like they were pretty much on track. I think the consensus for the third quarter, I'm looking at it now, is $72.8 million. Fourth quarter, $73.1. You know, since you asked the question, though, I will take the opportunity just to mention something. When we look at our internal budgeting and forecast, we see a little trail off in expenses and non-interest income together. They kind of offset each other, but we see a little trail off in the fourth quarter just due to seasonality, just the way we budget. There's some business lines that have some seasonality where customers are shopping for cars and mortgages and buying homes more in the summer months, that trails off a little bit along with some expenses towards the end of the year like hospitalization that trails off because of our the way we uh operate our self-insurance or hospitalization expense and the consensus forecast has both those pretty pretty consistent and not i think of those expense from third to fourth quarter and both of those should trail off a little bit in the third fourth quarter it doesn't matter that much because they kind of offset each other but appreciate the asking and then but then they would they would both bounce back in the first quarter of next year?
Yeah, probably.
That's right. That's right. And then, you know, we'd have pretty fairly, off the top of my head, like four-ish percentage growth in expenses year over year, pretty consistently.
Okay. Helpful. Thank you. You know, I guess, secondly, you talked about it at the end there on the repurchases. You know, the stock price is higher now. You didn't buyback much or any in the second quarter, but you had the deal happening. And I'm just curious kind of what the appetite is. Obviously, you've got the new authorization. You've got plenty of dry powder, if you will. So how are you guys thinking about repurchases now?
Yeah, we'll go back into the market after a blackout and probably set a price. And we buy back our shares according to a pricing grid that we set with a maximum cap. So, for example, in previous, the last quarter, I think towards the end after we got out of the center bank acquisition that was closed for a few days, we set the cap at 1550 a share, but the price is going higher than that for what we're buying back stock. We're not like some companies that might say, you know, come hell or high water, no matter what the price, we're going to retire 3% of our shares this year. And we don't care what the price is, we're just going to spend the money about it. We really haven't done that. we try to keep some dry powder for dips in the price. And when it gets too expensive, we just come out of the market. So we haven't set that price yet for the fourth quarter. If I had a gun to my head right now, I'd get it somewhere in the $17 range. And we'd say, okay, it's that one of those prices $17 or $17.50 buy back stock. When it gets to be above that weight, keep the powder dry and then go back in on the buy on the dips. That's kind of how we do it. Okay.
That's helpful. And then lastly, you know, I appreciate you can't give more color on the loan that drove the increase in NPLs, but maybe you can give color on where you think charge-offs trend from here. They've been low for the first half of the year, I think probably lower than expectations. So you guys thinking, is there a reason that they would be moving back up to a more normalized range in the back half or pretty clear in terms of the outlook for charge-offs?
Yeah, I'll let Brian Sahaki, our chief credit officer, answer that, Brian.
Yeah, thanks, Mike. I mean, we're obviously pleased with the quarter. I'd highlight that, you know, after experiencing the centric charge-offs in 2023 and 2024, you know, it was really diminished in the second quarter. We're down to $34,000 in that category. You know, across the portfolio, charge-offs have been at acceptable levels. equipment finance, indirect, have outperformed industry peers. As you mentioned, we've reserved for this problem credit, as well as others, and work through those resolutions. But absent that one large relationship, and with Les Hedwin from Centric, I feel we've normalized. We've always referenced kind of a mid-20 basis point charge off range, 25 to 30. And, you know, we could see a return to those levels with the problem assets, but, you know, nothing else to note. Okay, great. Thanks for all the call, guys.
Thank you.
Your next question is from the line of Carl Shepard with RBC Capital Markets.
Hey, good afternoon, everybody.
Hey, Carl.
Jim, I guess I wanted to start on the margin. You mentioned loan yield, I think, replacing 42 bps higher this quarter. Any guideposts to maybe how that's gone in July in any way you want to frame up, I guess, the quarter the best you can?
Yeah, so all those forecasts we give on NIM really are predicated on continuing trends of the previous quarters and continuing that kind of long-growth trajectory. That's the best we can do. So we assume if we continue with the past repeats itself and we can go forward, we'll be able to keep that replacement made up. It's been pretty consistent. It's a little two basis points higher in the first quarter. I think it was 46 off the top of my head and then 43 in the second quarter. So as long as the Fed doesn't cut rates, That should persist for a while, and obviously, even if the Fed does cut once, it'll still probably be positive. But there is somewhat of – there are some – definitely some estimates of loan production that go into that – that whole model that predicts the – that doesn't influence.
Yeah. Carl, I would just add that of the 42 points – 42 basis points increase, commercial fixed is really dragging that number up at like 111. And indirect installment loan is probably 73 basis points. So that's pulling it up. And they have big volume. The mortgage and some of the other categories have nice replacement yields, but there's not a lot of volume, honestly. So I would expect the dynamics to stay in place.
You know, if I could just pile on to that as well, just what Mike was saying, if you look at the whole, all the loan categories, about 40% of the new originations coming out were fixed and 60% were variable. The variable rate ones are just a matter of scratch. So the replacement yields on those are, they were nine basis points positive, not that much this quarter. But the fixed ones were 115 basis points positive. That's how you get to the overall 42 basis points.
So the fixed replacement yields at 115 positives that quarter, that that'll persist even through a few fed cuts that's helpful and then shifting topics i guess um m&a is picked up for the industry you guys have a pretty good track record of looking at lots of stuff and doing a few things that make sense on the smaller side just kind of curious what discussions you guys are having and what makes sense and what your priorities are thank you uh just a discussion or two not a lot i mean i think jim and always jim and i always say We've looked at, I think, 70 loans or 70 opportunities over 10 years, so about seven a year.
I don't think that's really picked up for us. And a big item, but we tend to bow out on price on larger deals, and the smaller deals remain interesting to us. We also have to see a pretty good path of low-risk execution before we get super excited as well. So maybe our box is a little tighter than others. We do like smaller deals. We think we can really leverage them into something a little bit more as we bring our different verticals in. And I think Jane Grabenz over the years and Mike McEwen now, they're really good at indirect auto, mortgage. small business and just bringing them into the mix, maybe a little higher-end investment real estate, and then just really creating some magic. The key is to make sure the deposits keep up with the loan growth and the focus is on funding the loans. And we'll be doing that even in quarters where the loans aren't growing.
Mike or Jane, do you want to add anything to that? i don't think so mike i think you've uh i think you did a good job of sort of explaining our psyche yeah yeah i agree great thank you thank you all your next question is from a line of kelly amato with kbw hi guys this is charlie on for kelly thanks for the question hey um you guys saw some strong organic loan growth this quarter just wondering if you could expand on kind of what seeing in the pipelines this level of growth is and general momentum is continuing thanks i think
the pipeline is pretty good i do think that uh we're going to have a little a few more payoffs in the uh third quarter mike do you want to expand on that yeah i think a little bit of summer wall and some payoffs uh from the permanent market but i expect activity to stay at this pace in the Once we get into the fourth quarter, a strong finish to the year.
Okay, great. And then specifically, if you could touch on the equipment finance portfolio, you guys had some good momentum there. I know you brought on some new teams recently. Just like the growth there and if what you're seeing is sustainable and maybe what it could get up to in terms of a percentage of the portfolio.
Yeah, I'll start there and let Mike finish. finish. But we're about three, three and a half years in. Those loans are typically five-year loans. So we're going to hit a wall here in about a year and a half, even if we continue to put on loans at the pace we are, where the portfolio will probably flatten out a bit. And so I'd start there. And we just like the business. We have a professional that's been doing this for about three decades and a good team. And we just like the credit quality we're seeing and the types of assets he's putting on. Mike, what would you add?
Just mathematically, the growth was huge because it's obviously a startup operation. And I would just say that so far, we're pleased with the type of assets we're financing and the credit quality of those assets. And furthermore, it's augmenting our bank relationships, where historically, we did not have equipment finance options for clients, especially tax leases. We now have that. So we expect incremental value from that relationship.
We also are very focused on growing CNI through our regional model from the smallest small business out of branches and $50 and $100 million loan hunks up through commercial, and then most importantly, getting operating accounts and core deposit relationships from businesses to fund our growth.
That's great. Thank you. I'll step back.
Your next question is from the line of Manuel Navas with DA Davison.
Hey, growth is really strong this quarter. Are you going to stay on the mid-single-digit core X, the acquisition level of growth, or is there any upside to it? And maybe comment on a mix as well.
Yeah. I think the guidance will continue to be mid-single digits because funding for us is an imperative and keeping pace with the funding. The mix, we would love to see that continue to rotate towards C&I, commercial real estate, owner-occupied commercial real estate, and those loans right now have a seven handle on them. And that being said, you know, we're a larger community bank than most banks of our size with about, you know, about 40% of the action. And we know that credit leads to cornerstone deposit relationships, particularly with younger households. So we want to have credit access for the good consumers, some 200,000 plus customers in our six markets. So we will remain open there. And we feel that even though the rates are a little lower, the replacement rates on those loans is very positive. Jane, anything you would on consumer or Mike on commercial?
Well, we've had a good run in the consumer businesses and that's all in market existing bank customers. So we have no interest in pinching that. Those are good relationships. As you said, small business, every one of those loans is really important to us and uh the other consumer businesses indirect um you know replacement yields have been good and mortgage uh is generally uh a for sale business for us it's a fee business right now we're not running it generally as a balance sheet business so uh we like them all and i would just say for benefit of all the employees we're seeing and Mike and Jane insist upon core deposit relationships with everyone I appreciate the comments area is shifting over to deposits the MIM guide I
understand it can you just dive into some of the dynamics and you point out that there might be some expected loan yield pressure in the model and then some deposit cost increases to fund that future loan growth, can you kind of flesh that out a little bit?
Yeah, Manuel, Jim, I'll tell you exactly what I was thinking. I mean, the model has given me numbers that are a little higher than the guidance I'm giving to you, but I happen to know of some things that we're doing that we're not in the model when the model was last updated. So I know that, for example, we looked at the deposit growth and loan growth in the second quarter and put the gas pedal down a little firmer on the deposit growth. So, and deposit rates we're paying to get that growth. We want to make sure that we fund our loan growth with deposits as we go along. And so, that's probably going to put a little bit of pressure on the margin going forward. And then anecdotally, we hear about tightening loan spreads. We could say that you might hear those anecdotes in a lot of quarters, but you hear them more and more. And so, if a model, I'll just tell you, the model is saying that the mid would be 3.97 and 4.00% of the third and fourth quarters, respectively. But knowing what we know, we haircut that a little bit to give the guidance that we do give, which is low to mid-390s. Now, the low replacement yields, we have nine basis points of that. So if that just continues, that's nice. That just keeps going. If the Fed starts cutting rates, then that might be a little lower. But you do have those macro swaps coming off, which will be positive towards the end of the year. So all that goes into that guidance And that's kind of giving you maybe a little background of our thinking.
That's great. And that's the natural push against kind of the high end of the NIM is that at some point competition can step in. Like, how high could this get into next year? It just really depends on rates. Any thoughts on that type of discussion?
Yeah, thanks for asking. It's early to talk about next year. I mean, the math, if the Fed doesn't cut rates at all, the math just keeps clicking away and the margin just keeps going up, up, up, up, up. But as someone actually pointed out on last quarter's earnings call, you know, the industry generally doesn't sustain NIMS over 4% for very long. I mean, it gets competed away on both the other side. And we've already seen some of that pressures on spreads on the commercial loan side and, you know, the need to price up deposits to get that growth. So the model would say if the Fed doesn't cut rates, it's tremendous. But realistically speaking, as they say, the trees don't grow to the sky.
Yeah, I would just add just a little counterintuitively. If rates settle a bit, I think it primes the pump for demand, and we have a broad business model for consumers' business. and I think we have more business, more cross-selling opportunities, and consumers are in better shape as are small businesses. The SBA business, there's more fee income. So I just think, you know, Jim and I and the team, Jane and Mike, we just have tried to make it 50-50 variable fix. So we do well irrespective of where interest rates go, and I think our fee income, our fee businesses would benefit from that. So I think either way, we can do quite well.
And that actually gives me an opportunity, Manuel, if you don't mind, for me to mention, Mike, since you're talking about that kind of view of the next year, we do have more macro response maturing next year. There's $150 million in May of 2026 and another $25 million in October of 2026. So that will help the margin. So even in a world where the Fed, in our forecast, there are four more cuts in 2026. The model is predicting a mean that stays above slightly above 4% for next year. So but we'll know more as we really work on sharpening our pencils on budgets and get a little more accurate forecast in the earnings calls for the third and fourth quarter this year.
That's great. Anything you want to add? I'm all ears.
Thanks.
Thanks for the commentary.
Thanks, Noah. Your next question is from the line of Maybreeze with Stevens, Inc. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.
Hey, man. You know, maybe to start, just a modeling question. Securities were down a bit this quarter and now sit at 13.5% of total assets. That feels a little low versus where we've been recently. Maybe not, but it just feels a little low versus where we've been. Is that right? Do you like to be kind of in the 14 range, or is 13 and a half adequate?
No, we're okay with that. 13 and a half is adequate. We want to make sure we have securities on hand to pledge against borrowing and other things we need to use those for. It's down a bit this quarter because our purchase activity was slow this quarter. We had pre-purchased some in previous quarters to get ahead of it a little bit, and so I didn't feel the need to buy much this quarter. But we don't feel from a liquidity standpoint that we need a higher percentage. We We have so much available liquidity and real good, there's a slide in our webcast presentation that talks about this. So we have social liquidity backed by assets that we can pledge, I think it's over $5 billion. So we don't feel like we need to keep 15, 20% of our assets and securities just for the sake of on-balance-share liquidity. Our liquidity is very strong without that. So we're very comfortable with where it's at.
Got it. Okay. A couple of bigger picture ones. You know, strategically, just thinking about your markets. Where, from a market share position standpoint, do you feel like there's the most room for opportunity? We hear you talk a lot about Ohio as being an engine for growth. Can that well continue for a lot longer? And if not, where on the map might we see you go that could be the next kind of vehicle for growth, the next Ohio for you?
I honestly believe, and perhaps I'm delusional, that I think between Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Pittsburgh, and our community markets in Western PA, we could build out a bank that's two times the size, because we're just not a market maker. We're kind of on the fringes of market share, and we just see a lot of crumbs coming off that table from bigger banks. And I just feel like we can fill in and love to add some rural depositories, you know, fill in in those metro markets, maybe do a little bit of DeNovo. We have some cities between in Ohio like Dayton. We also have opportunities in Western PA. and then we really haven't penetrated all of our lines of business in each of our markets. I just think within these markets, we can grow the company substantially. That doesn't mean we wouldn't go to Northern Kentucky or we wouldn't do something contiguous. We just feel like we have to be able to extend the brand thoughtfully and be able to cover, just not outkick our coverage, as they say in football. And so I don't know that we're super interested in just getting to the next market. I think we can grow where we're at, honestly. Jane or Mike, anything you would add there?
You know, the recent acquisition is a good example of that. It's in market. It gives us more, a higher profile. But even with that, we're still, you know, maybe 10th in market care in that market, so we have a lot of upsides. Those are the kind of things that we absorb quickly and we can move on to the next one and grow that market further.
Yeah, and we haven't really penetrated our fee income businesses. We're really good in community PA and in Pittsburgh, but we're just getting there with our regional model with businesses like Wealth and uh insurance and and other things that we do pretty well at and sba and so i i'm i'm pretty enthused just about western pa in ohio honestly yeah mike to put a finer point on it uh two things one um our product penetration uh for the existing households we have still leaves a lot of room for growth.
So as our execution gets better, there's a lot of embedded upside there. And there's a lot of terrific small businesses and lower middle market companies as we drive from Pittsburgh to Cleveland, and we're interested in all of those. And we've spent some money on our treasury management offerings, so we can bank those companies in addition to just lending to them.
I appreciate all that. Maybe just as a follow-up, Senator McCormick a couple weeks ago, a few weeks ago, held a conference in Pittsburgh around AI and data centers and power investments in Pennsylvania, I think to the tune of maybe like $90 billion or just a huge number. Curious if you attended, what you heard, how beneficial could this be to the area and if any of these forms of real estate or investments are directly or indirectly helpful to you all? That's all I had. Thank you.
Yeah, we see it all over. We see it right in our backyard in Indiana County. There's a $10 billion investment for a power plant just for a data center, and it's a conversion of a coal and natural, and it'll be a natural gas power plant. And they're really firing up, really, the Marcella Shale to help fuel that. And we're seeing it all over. We're seeing it in the infrastructure with the gas pipelines, the trucking, everything, and not to mention the plastics that complement the natural gas. So I don't know. I just think this area, particularly Pennsylvania, has been harder hit over the last 25 years.
I just think you know the future could be brighter and we're seeing a significant investment everywhere appreciate it thank you as a reminder to ask a question press star one on your telephone keypad your next question is from the line of Daniel Carnetas with Dennis hey good afternoon guys then um just quickly returning to um to credit quality um of this not a floor plan non-accrual what what percentage of your total non-accrual portfolio does this represent
and then second you know what's the overall health of the remainder of the portfolio sure i can take that and then uh i may have to have you repeat the second part i couldn't hear entirely but it's approximately just over 30 percent are not accruals as you saw that I mean I referenced a non-performing bucket increased uh 40 million did it to just shy of 100 um and 31.8 of that was uh the floor plan so um pretty pretty straightforward on that 100 basis to be just uh just over 30 percent Brian could you mention that the remainder of the increase in npls is from the acquisition right sure yeah so and that's a good point jim so it is the remainder if you look at the 40 million increase 31.9 from the dealer floor plan uh 8.4 uh from center bank acquisition uh so absent those two events we had a three hundred thousand dollar minimal but three hundred thousand dollar decrease um in the quarter we would have went from 65 basis points to 63 basis points okay and so is this large loan the floor plan loan is that a legacy and FCF legacy loan or was that acquired no yeah I'll tell you a little bit about the dealer floor plan portfolio it is legacy none of our floor plans have been acquired at the at 630 our floor plan segment was $154 million of outstandings, so a rather manageable small portfolio, 23 customers, and this was the only one over $20 million of exposure. We just have two others over $15 million, with the rest really being granular inside $10 million of exposure. And, you know, the portfolio is performing well, strong weighted average risk rating in compliance, you know, show, you know, here we've really had an isolated event with the one dealer, happened to be the largest. Okay. Excellent. And then in terms of just your larger relationships, is this like in the top 20 or 25 overall? it was um you know uh we we manage our borrowers over you know really we've monitored internally over 15 million um yeah there's uh nearly about 10 relationships over 25 uh so this was one of the larger and how are those relationships performing very well um you know that that portfolio is very strongly risk-graded. All but one, I would comment, or two would be better than past watch. So, it's a strong portfolio. No early signs of or any early indications of weakness in that portfolio.
Okay.
And did this credit have any impact on the margin this quarter um there's a move to non-accruals we had uh late in may about 200 000. it did yes that's probably took away a uh basis point reversal of interest in that in april that's right yeah yeah i don't know if you heard that we went to not accruals reversal of interest about 300 000 so that would have hit them on them to maybe maybe around at one basis one um i think i think that's it you've answered all my other questions i appreciate the uh
appreciate the time thank you thanks dan at this time there are no further questions i will now hand the call back over to mike price president and ceo very good thanks for the questions it's always good to engage excited about the future of our company um to grow organically remain disciplined with M&A to make sure that our low cost deposits keep pace with our commercial loan growth and just do a better job of cross-selling our clients and bringing them fee income opportunities. But just thank you and just have a good day.
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