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Earnings Call FY2025 Q2 Call date: 2025-07-29 Concluded

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Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Freshworks Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Brian Lan, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Freshworks Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today are Dennis Woodside, Freshworks Chief Executive Officer and President; and Tyler Sloat, Freshworks Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer. The primary purpose of today's call is to provide you with information regarding our second quarter 2025 performance and our financial estimates for our third quarter and full year 2025. Some of our discussion and responses to your questions may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on our management's beliefs about our business and industry, including our financial expectations and estimates, uncertainties in the macroeconomic environment in which we operate and market volatility, the timing of future repurchases of our Class A common stock and certain other assumptions made by the company, all of which are subject to change. These statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements.

Thank you, Brian. Freshworks delivered an outstanding Q2, surpassing expectations across growth and profitability. We grew Q2 revenue 18% year-over-year to $204.7 million, expanded our non-GAAP operating margin to 22%, and delivered a strong adjusted free cash flow margin of 27%. Collectively, these results clearly illustrate our ability to balance strong growth with profitability. We ended the quarter with over 74,600 customers, including leading global storage provider, Seagate, leading international law firm, Covington & Burling LLP, and leading recruitment experts Reed and retail energy supplier, AEP Energy. In Q2, we held our very successful refresh Europe customer event where we introduced product innovations within the Freddy Agentic AI Platform and across our EX and CX portfolio, which I'll talk about throughout this call. Our strategy has focused on three key growth drivers: investing in Employee Experience, or EX, delivering AI capabilities across our products, and accelerating adoption while driving continued expansion in customer experience, or CX. On the first strategic imperative, Employee Experience, EX continues to lead in growth, achieving over $450 million in ARR, which represents 24% year-over-year growth on an as-reported basis and 22% on a constant currency basis. With over 19,000 customers, our first lever in this area is growth in the mid-market and enterprise, together representing more than 3/4 of ARR in EX. Our IT momentum underscores the value Freshworks brings to our customers. We continue to displace legacy competitors as organizations choose Freshservice because we reduce complexity, accelerate efficiency, and enable tangible growth through our AI-powered platform. As an example, Skill Dynamics, one of the largest and most diversified U.S. steel producers, replaced ServiceNow with Freshservice. Another example is KAYAK, a leading global travel search engine that chose Freshservice to replace Jira Service Management. Since implementation, KAYAK has reported improved ticket volume, productivity, and visibility. The second EX growth driver and expansion lever is our enterprise service management solutions. Our customers are increasingly using Freshservice in other areas of their businesses outside of IT. For example, Nexstar Media Group, one of the largest local broadcasting companies in the U.S., streamlined its employee support experience by migrating to Freshservice. Nexstar went live across three distinct workplaces, consolidating IT, digital, HR, payroll, and legal into a single unified platform in weeks. Freshservice reduced complexity for the employees and over 200 support agents, and Nexstar achieved a 35% cost savings. Another customer, Michaels Stores, the leading creative destination in North America with over 1,300 locations, chose Freshservice to modernize IT and business operations as part of a strategic initiative to streamline operations and drive scalable growth. Michaels onboarded 900 agents, migrated over 3 years of ticket history, and deployed Freshservice across IT, HR, and facilities to streamline incident management, asset tracking, employee journeys, and vendor risk. At the end of Q2, we released Freshservice Journeys, a powerful new tool designed to help HR teams automate and streamline the cumbersome process of managing employee transitions, including onboarding, offboarding, promotions, and relocations. Qualfon's VP of IT operations said Freshservice has completely transformed their onboarding process. What used to take days can now be done in hours. He also said it has enabled him to reduce risk and deliver a more secure, compliant offboarding experience at scale. We believe that our ESM solutions could be a $100 million-plus opportunity for us and a meaningful long-term way to grow EX beyond IT. Our third growth driver in EX is our advanced IT Asset Management offering with Device42. Two of the top 5 deals in the quarter included Device42. Customers like Seagate deployed Freshservice to modernize IT operations and later expanded to Device42, tapping into the seamless integrations between the two products to unify asset discovery and service management. Finally, we introduced Freshservice for MSPs, a new ITSM product for small managed service providers. This solution is built on the core Freshservice Foundation and is designed to help growing MSPs seamlessly manage multiple clients without adding complexity or overhead. In addition to these two product innovations, we released key features for Freshservice that are designed to improve productivity and reduce mean time to resolution. Now on to our second imperative, delivering AI capabilities and driving adoption of AI. Customers are no longer just experimenting with AI. They're moving beyond the pilot phase, finding practical applications that drive measurable transformative results. Over 5,000 customers are now paying for our copilot and AI agent products, and ARR from these two SKUs crossed $20 million in Q2, more than doubling ARR from a year ago. In Q2, Freddy Copilot was included in more than 55% of our new large customer deals over $30,000. We ended the quarter with over 3,300 customers, a sequential growth of 21% quarter-over-quarter. Our recent annual Freshservice benchmark report revealed that organizations using Freddy Copilot reduced resolution time by 76% and first response time by 41%. With Freddy AI Agent, organizations saw a ticket deflection rate of 65% and over 400,000 hours of agent time saved across IT and ESM. Now in June, we launched several Agentic AI innovations. First, we introduced Freddy AI Agent Studio for Freshdesk, a powerful platform to build and manage AI agents that take autonomous actions like issuing refunds, checking order statuses, and updating customer records. Organizations can build dozens of agentic workflows, define business rules, and connect to external systems all using a visual no-code intuitive interface. Secondly, we launched Freddy AI Agent for email in Freshdesk, designed for organizations where email is the primary support channel. The agent reads the request, finds the right answer, responds, and closes the ticket entirely on its own. Third, we added Freddy AI Agent for unified search in Freshservice designed to connect to systems like Microsoft SharePoint and Teams so that employees can receive faster and more accurate answers. And finally, Freddy AI Insights for Freshservice became generally available in Q2. It provides proactive, actionable intelligence to IT teams about the operational health of their IT service footprint. We're pleased with the early signals we're seeing from customers and look forward to providing updates on customer use cases in the coming months. Our third strategic imperative, customer experience, saw meaningful improvements. CX grew to over $380 million in ARR, which represents 11% growth year-over-year on an as-reported basis and 8% on a constant currency basis. We believe this acceleration in growth reflects customer sentiment that Freshdesk is easier to implement and use than the legacy competitors. While our small business customers continue to represent over half of our CX ARR, in Q2, we saw strong momentum with large organizations turning to Freshdesk for our powerful, uncomplicated customer experience software. We also secured a substantial cross-sell opportunity spanning both employee and customer experience with a leading science and engineering research center. Our AI products continue to be an expansion driver for CX. Honda Motor Europe selected Freshdesk to modernize its customer support operations across 36 countries, deploying 220 agents with Freddy AI Copilot. The team needed a solution that could scale across the region and provide real-time auto-translation to serve a multilingual dealer and technician network. By replacing its legacy Java-based system, Honda now delivers faster, more consistent support experiences through Freshdesk. With Freddy Copilot, agents can streamline communication, deflect tickets via multilingual self-service, and work more efficiently, all on a flexible, secure, and AI-powered platform built with a strong focus on supporting European operations. Freddy AI agents are driving measurable results for Freshdesk customers. One example is a health care provider that reduced response times by 35%, improved first contact resolution by 40%, and saw a 25% boost in CSAT, all while scaling support and containing costs with AI now handling 35% of queries autonomously. In addition to the new AI capabilities for Freshdesk that I mentioned earlier, we released significant product updates such as CSAT versioning and analytics. This feature is designed to give supervisors deeper insights into customer satisfaction drivers by connecting CSAT scores to specific operational behaviors and performance indicators. They can then make data-driven coaching decisions and identify which agent actions and ticket handling patterns correlate with higher customer satisfaction scores. Another expansion path in CX is customers adopting EX products after having a positive experience with Freshdesk. A recent example of a customer using Freshworks products to drive efficiency across both customer and employee experiences is Momentum Software, a cloud-based provider serving nonprofits and mission-driven organizations. After successfully deploying Freshdesk for customer support, Momentum expanded to Freshservice, replacing ServiceNow. Within weeks of launch, Momentum reported measurable efficiency gains, including fewer ticket reassignments and stronger SLA performance, early validation of improved efficiency and user satisfaction. We're pleased with the results in our CX business underscored by the improved growth rate during the second quarter. Now across both EX and CX, our momentum in specific industry verticals continues. We are privileged to serve 2025 sports champions, including NBA Champions, Oklahoma City Thunder, European football champions, Paris Saint-Germain, and Scottish Football Champions, Celtic Football Club. I'm also excited about the partnership we announced earlier this month with the McLaren Formula 1 team, the 2024 Constructors' Champions. Freshworks branding appeared on both McLaren cars last weekend at the Belgian Grand Prix, where the McLaren team finished 1-2 on top of the podium. We anticipate that this multiyear partnership with McLaren will build further brand awareness and engagement with CIOs. These sports organizations trust us to power their world-class operations behind the scenes so that they can power greatness on the track, court, and field. We're honored that Freshworks plays a part in their historic runs. In the public sector, more than 1,000 local, state, and national government entities trust Freshworks, including the State of California Franchise Tax Board, Maryland Department of General Services, and the State of Oregon's Department of Forestry. Finally, in Q2, we saw momentum in the new global partner program that we announced earlier in the year. Our partners touched more than 1/3 of our ARR in Q2, and we have onboarded over 130 new partners to our ecosystem this year. Additionally, we signed a deal with another global service integrator. This partnership will help us reach more midsized companies and entities in higher education, local government, and other public sectors in the U.K. market. I'm energized by the opportunity ahead to serve businesses that demand speed, simplicity, and value. Our enterprise-grade software delivers faster time to value and a lower total cost of ownership, which is what thousands of businesses want today. Thank you to our customers, partners, employees, and shareholders for your ongoing support. Now let me turn it over to Tyler to go through the operational and financial details.

Thanks, Dennis, and thanks everyone for joining the call and via webcast today. We are pleased to report another quarter of strong results at Freshworks. Our Q2 performance reflects continued momentum across the business with solid revenue growth, margin expansion, and disciplined execution of our strategy. We're seeing healthy demand for our easy-to-use innovative solutions to help businesses of all sizes improve productivity and deliver exceptional customer experiences. We exceeded our top line growth estimates and improved our non-GAAP operating margin to 22%, an increase of over 14 percentage points compared to a year ago. We grew our adjusted free cash flow 65% year-over-year to $54.3 million, which resulted in an adjusted free cash flow margin of 27%, also ahead of our previously provided estimates. For our call today, I'll cover the Q2 2025 financial results and provide background on the key metrics and close with our forward-looking commentary and updated expectations for Q3 and full year 2025. As a reminder, most of our discussion will be focused on non-GAAP financial results, which exclude the impact of stock-based compensation expenses, restructuring charges, and other adjustments. We will also talk about adjusted free cash flow, which excludes the cash outlay related to the restructuring costs. We continue to benefit from foreign exchange tailwinds this quarter providing a modest uplift to our Q2 revenue, while contributing over 2 percentage points of ARR growth, translating to a nearly $18 million increase to ARR. To provide greater transparency into our underlying business performance, we will include constant currency comparisons throughout today's call. Starting with the income statement, Q2 total revenue increased to $204.7 million, growing 18% year-over-year on an as-reported basis and 17% year-over-year on a constant currency basis. Professional services revenue contributed $2.7 million in the quarter, driven by strong bookings as well as several early project kickoffs and completions that led to one-time increases. Our EX business grew to over $450 million in ARR, representing growth of 24% year-over-year on an as-reported basis and 22% year-over-year on a constant currency basis. As expected, growth moderated this quarter as we lapped the anniversary of the Device42 acquisition from last June. Adjusting for this, we're encouraged by the strong underlying performance across our EX portfolio, which continues to deliver our highest area of growth. Our CX business increased to over $380 million in ARR, reflecting growth of 11% on an as-reported basis and 8% year-over-year on a constant currency basis. The growth acceleration versus recent quarters was driven by healthy momentum in our Freshdesk business and stronger execution across the board. Moving to margins, we maintained a strong non-GAAP gross margin in Q2 of 86%, reflecting our continued progress in scaling our business efficiently. Our non-GAAP operating income for Q2 came in at $44.8 million, representing a non-GAAP operating margin of 22%, which was ahead of prior expectations. This reflects strong revenue outperformance and disciplined expense management, including lower-than-anticipated personnel-related costs, some of which will be shifted into future quarters. Moving to operating metrics, our two key business metrics are net dollar retention and customers contributing more than $5,000 in ARR. While gross expansion trends remain pressured, we're encouraged by the steady improvements in our overall churn rate. Net dollar retention came in stronger than expected at 106% on an as-reported basis and was in line with our expectations on a constant currency basis at 104%. Retention was modestly affected by Device42 primarily due to churn in its partner business that we had anticipated following our acquisition last year. As expected, this represented a headwind to net dollar retention of just over 2/3 of a percentage point. We expect Device42 retention to improve gradually as we continue to integrate the Device42 products with our ITSM offering. Looking ahead, we estimate net dollar retention of approximately 105% on an as-reported basis and 104% on a constant currency basis for Q3. For our second key business metric, the number of customers contributing more than $5,000 in ARR as of the end of Q2 grew 10% year-over-year on an as-reported basis and 9% year-over-year on a constant currency basis to 23,975 customers. This customer cohort continues to represent 90% of our ARR. For our larger customer cohort contributing more than $50,000 in ARR as of the end of Q2, we saw growth of 22% year-over-year on an as-reported basis and 19% on a constant currency basis to 3,460 customers. This cohort represents over 50% of our ARR. For total customers, we added over 1,300 net new customers in the quarter, which also includes contributions from our ongoing free-to-paid initiatives. We ended the quarter with over 74,600 customers. Now let's turn to calculated billings, balance sheet, and cash items. Our calculated billings grew to $213.1 million in Q2, representing growth of 15% year-over-year on an as-reported basis and 13% growth on a constant currency basis, driven primarily by stronger-than-expected booking performance in the quarter. Looking ahead to Q3 2025, our initial estimate for calculated billings growth is 14% year-over-year on an as-reported basis and 13% on a constant currency basis. For the full year 2025, we expect calculated billings growth to be approximately 16% year-over-year on an as-reported basis and 14% on a constant currency basis, the latter of which is in line with our expectations from last quarter. Moving to our cash items, we generated $54.3 million in adjusted free cash flow in Q2 with outperformance driven by strong collections and continued operational discipline. This resulted in an adjusted free cash flow margin of 27%, which represents over a 7 percentage point improvement year-over-year. As a reminder, these results do not include a one-time use of cash of $700,000 related to restructuring costs. For the full year 2025, we are expecting to generate approximately $215 million of adjusted free cash flow with approximately $55 million in Q3 and $50 million in Q4. In Q2, we repurchased an additional 8.2 million shares at an average price of $13.89 per share. We have now repurchased nearly 15.9 million shares using over $240 million through Q2. In addition to the repurchase program, we continue to manage and offset share count dilution by net settlement of vested equity amounts. We used approximately $14 million during the quarter for that purpose. This activity is reflected in our financing activities and is excluded from our free cash flow calculations. Looking ahead, we will continue to net settle vested equity amounts and expect Q3 cash usage of approximately $17 million at current stock price levels. For the full year, we expect to use approximately $64 million to net settle vested equity amounts. We ended the quarter with cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities of approximately $926 million. Turning to our share count as of June 30, 2025, we had approximately 320 million fully diluted shares, which represents a decline of 2% year-over-year. The fully diluted calculation includes 292 million basic shares outstanding, which represents a reduction compared to both the prior year and quarter. It also includes 25 million shares related to unvested RSUs and 2 million shares related to outstanding options. We expect to thoughtfully manage share count dilution with net settlement activities and share repurchases into the future. Now on to our forward-looking estimates. For the third quarter of 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $207 million to $210 million, growing 11% to 12% year-over-year on an as-reported and constant currency basis. Non-GAAP income from operations is expected to be in the range of $31.2 million to $33.2 million, and non-GAAP net income per share in the range of $0.12 to $0.14 assuming weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 294.2 million shares. For the full year 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $822.9 million to $828.9 million, growing 14% to 15% year-over-year. Adjusting for constant currency using FX rates from Q3 of last year, this reflects growth of 14% to 16% year-over-year. Non-GAAP income from operations is expected to be in the range of $153 million to $157 million, and non-GAAP net income per share in the range of $0.56 to $0.58, assuming weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 296.9 million. Our financial outlook is based on a few assumptions that we would like to call out. First, our forward-looking estimates are based on FX rates as of July 25, 2025, and do not take into account any benefit from currency moves, which we estimate could be a $1.5 million to $2.5 million increase to our full year 2025 revenue. In addition, we expect spending to increase in the second half of the year, driven by the timing of certain personnel and brand-related expenses, along with incremental investments in sales and marketing to capture the growth opportunities ahead, all while remaining focused on driving operational efficiencies in the business. This increase is reflected in our financial outlook. In closing, we are pleased with our strong Q2 execution, which reflects the strength of our business, the growing demand for our products, and the incredible dedication of our global team. We are excited about the opportunities ahead as we continue to innovate, delight our customers, and deliver sustainable, profitable growth. We also look forward to sharing more about our long-term vision and strategic priorities at our Investor Day, which will be held in San Francisco on September 11. We will send out more details regarding the event in the coming days.

Operator

Now let's take your questions.

Speaker 4

Congrats on the quarter. I don't know if this is a better question for Dennis or Tyler, but specifically with AI agent, right? You're selling session packs. From a forecasting perspective, I'm sure you have to make some assumptions around the pace at which those are consumed and presumably re-upped. What does that consumption look like relative to your expectations? Is it happening as expected, faster than you thought, slower? Any color there would be interesting.

Thank you for the question. Overall, AI is performing at or slightly ahead of our internal expectations. Regarding the AI agent, it's still early as we just launched the agentic platform in June. The previous AI agent was mainly a Q&A tool without user action capabilities. We're experiencing positive traction with all the AI products announced in June, and we have hundreds of customers participating in early access programs for products like AI insights. We expect to gain better insights on the AI agent product as we move through the second half of the year. As for Copilot, we have a strong strategy in place, and it is now part of over 55% of our larger deals. This product is attracting significant interest from our customers, many of whom are eager to adopt it.

Speaker 4

Yes, that makes sense. Tyler, could you clarify something regarding Q3 guidance? The high-end growth estimate is 12%. If I calculate it, CX constitutes 46% of the business and is steadily growing at about 7% to 8%, which accounts for approximately 3.5 points of growth. Therefore, the remaining growth would have to come from EX. If my calculations are correct, achieving 12% growth in Q3 would suggest about 16% growth in EX, which seems lower than I anticipated. It's about 6 points lower than the previous report. Am I misunderstanding something? Is my math accurate? Are we just being cautious? Any insights would be appreciated.

Yes. We haven't broken out the exact revenue impacts of each product, right? We're kind of giving greater than ARR numbers. And then there's other components to revenue in there, right? We have some usage components, you have professional services that enter a little bit. We also have a revenue reserve that we take every single quarter. And so the growth rate that we're seeing for EX is strong, right? And the growth rates of the ARR, the greater the ARR numbers, we can kind of use those, and so I wouldn't try to round out too much from it. In general, everything is kind of going according to our plan. We did anniversary Device42 acquisition, and that has a different compare now, but we've been talking about that and kind of preparing the market for that for the last 6 months.

Speaker 4

Right. So you feel like the EX business is a durable 20% grower for now?

We think the EX is going really well. And we view like there's a ton of potential upside even there. We are very encouraged with Device42 and how it's going and the whole thesis of that purchase is playing out kind of as we planned. We obviously have our Freddy AI products as upsells to EX as well as our ESM business team product. And then the market for EX, we're just continuing to see larger and larger customers come to us trying to switch off of legacy players, and we're just going to continue to execute.

Speaker 5

Really nice quarter here. I guess for my one question, Dennis, in your prescriptive remarks, you talked about how your global partner program can contribute at, I believe, it was over 1/3 of ARR in the second quarter. I guess it's still early in that program. You talked about signing another SI with, I guess, a higher add in government focus there. But how do we think about the right long-term contribution of that partner channel in general for you? Are you seeing the best strength out of the EX side or maybe the CX side? And then I don't know anything different in terms of like deal size or composition of those deals coming out of those partner-related transactions we should be aware of?

Yes, certainly. Our network of partners continues to grow, and we added over 130 new partners to the ecosystem in the first half of the year. As mentioned, about one-third of our bookings are influenced by partners, with an even distribution between customer experience and employee experience. As we engage with larger partners like Unisys, we notice they generate a pipeline that tends to lead to larger deals and is often with more mature companies that have significant expansion potential over time. However, it is still early days; we signed the Unisys deal in the first quarter, and we have already seen promising results. Additionally, we recently signed our second major GSIM, which will initially focus on the U.K. market. Looking ahead, we anticipate that a greater proportion of our business will be influenced by partners over the next few years.

Speaker 6

This is Ria Naidu on for Brent Thill. Regarding Ian officially stepping in as the new CRO, just wondering how much change is left in sales work going forward and how the new team is settling in as well?

Sure. Just as a reminder, we have 2 revenue leaders. Mika Yamamoto leads the SMB and commercial business, which is an inbound business and serviced entirely out of India and through partners. And then Ian leads our field business which is focused on 8 countries around the world. He also has the partner side of things as well. Ian was our Head of International and had done a really good job over the course of the last year. He's got a long history in enterprise sales. He was a Domo prior to joining us, he was a CRO there. And he stepped into the role in April. Partway through the quarter, we decided to make a change from an interim status to permanent status. I think the results really speak for themselves. We did really well in our field sales team in Q2. All of our regions exceeded their internal targets. Obviously, it shows up in the numbers. So pretty happy with how he's been driving things. He's been able to build his bench. He just brought on a new leader for Europe. I brought in a new leader for sales engineering overall. We're pretty happy with where we're headed there. I don't anticipate major changes going forward.

Speaker 7

I don't think we've really hit on the macro yet, Dennis. So this time last quarter, we were all really worried about international exposure and tariffs and uncertainty and decision making. What did you see in your customer conversations? And if you can maybe comment on how this month has gone to, that would be really helpful.

Look, overall, we saw really strong demand across the board. I think there's a couple of things going on. First of all, we start from a really diversified base with a little less than half of our revenue in North America, a little over half international. There's no specific industry that's overrepresented in our portfolio. So we don't have big exposure to industries that are particularly hit by tariffs. The software that we're providing for customer support and IT teams is must-have software. Every team and every company in the world needs to automate those operations, needs to bring AI into those operations, become more efficient, more effective, or drive growth faster. We have had a very successful first half of the year. Looking at our pipeline and what the second half of the year looks like, as reflected in our guidance, we are quite optimistic about the trajectory of the business and our ability to maintain that momentum.

Speaker 8

I wanted to come back to the AI copilot and agent revenue, $20 million ARR. I think it's impressive just given how recently many of these solutions have gone GA. So curious if you're thinking about any stakes in the ground for how ARR evolves through the year or next, just especially as the agent capabilities expand. When we think about this incremental kind of ARR, is it kind of truly incremental? Or do we think about any puts and takes on the core side of the business?

Yes. So on AI, while we have 5,000 paying customers for those 2 SKUs, we have 73,000 customers. So it's still pretty early in the overall adoption of AI by our customer base. We're continuing to add well over 1,000 of those customers every quarter that are paying for those 2 SKUs. Remember, we have AI in other parts of our product. So if you buy the Enterprise plan for EX, you have access to AI insights and you also have access to AI agents for EX, but you have to buy the Enterprise plan, which is priced higher. There are various ways we are generating revenue in CX where the volume is higher, monetizing based on the usage of our AI agent. For the new Agentic agents that we've just introduced into early access, we haven't finalized their pricing yet. They are currently in early access, and we plan to set their prices later this fall. Likely, the pricing will be related to resolution, and we will consider competitive pricing to determine the final amounts. This is something we will monitor closely, as it could be a significant growth catalyst, particularly in the CX area, where we are already seeing its impact on labor in the early access program.

Speaker 9

Maybe, I guess, to Elizabeth's question, when is the thought process that in some time in '26, we're going to start to see AI become a growth catalyst for the business where it's driving higher ASPs? It's driving higher NRRs where that trajectory kind of inflect? Is that the right way to think about the business from here?

There are multiple avenues for growth in the business. Starting with the EX side, we are experiencing share growth as more large customers, such as Seagate, Steel Dynamics, Michaels, and Qualfon, switch from older platforms like Atlassian or ServiceNow. This is one growth driver. Another key factor is ESM, which we believe has significant potential to become a large business for us. Recently, we launched an enhanced workflow for onboarding and offboarding in EA and are seeing promising results in the early program. Many customers have expressed interest in this to help manage the routine tasks associated with onboarding and offboarding employees. The third growth driver is Device42. We exceeded our expectations this past quarter and are on track with the business plan established during the acquisition of the company. Device42 continues to be a significant factor in larger deals, including winning new contracts and expanding within our existing customer base. AI also enhances the customer experience business. Our efforts to drive growth include consolidating functionality into Freshdesk, particularly the conversational features that were previously in other products. This consolidation results in a single product that is easier for customers to use, sell, purchase, and eventually upgrade. I think we've got multiple paths to growth. AI is certainly an important part of it, but there's a lot more than just AI.

Yes. I can take the first part, Brett. We're really pleased with how we've been doing on the efficiency perspective, specifically on free cash flow. We talked that we are going to make some investments in the back half of the year but those investments are all taken into account. From a free cash flow perspective, we kind of called out what we expect Q3 and Q4 to be in for the full year, which is well above what we did coming into the year. In fact, I think it's $12 million more for the full year than what we said we're going to do coming into the year. This is a growth business, and we've always said that we want to make sure that we are not sacrificing bottom line for growth. As we look in front of us, there are investments we want to make on the go-to-market side. All of those investments are taken into account in our guidance; however, there were some that were timing and others that we're going to lean into. But in general, we're very pleased with how we're doing on the balance of growth and free cash flow, and we will lean into growth where we have the opportunities.

Speaker 7

Yes. To clarify on AI, our attach rate for large deals for copilot was over 55%, an increase from the previous quarter. The AI opportunity is significant. We've experienced considerable success since launching Copilot in Q1 of last year. Currently, we have 5,000 customers paying for the two AI SKUs that we monetize, but we have 73,000 customers in total. There is still immense potential ahead. We do believe that every one of our customers should be using AI in both the IT space and the CX space, and our customers are starting to come around to that point of view as well. So that's a very big opportunity, that's a multiyear opportunity to sustain growth for. And that's just those two SKUs that we're monetizing today. We also indirectly monetize through inclusion of AI functionality like AI insights into the higher paid plans like enterprise on the EX side. So there's a long way to go. We're just getting started with Agentic, just releasing our first true Agentic capabilities into EA in June. That's another lever of growth. That pricing model will be slightly different than our current AI agent without actions. We'll be pricing closer to what you see some of our competitors pricing for their Agentic products, and that could be a meaningful driver for us. For our customers, they're going to be able to take costs out, and we're going to share a fraction of that cost reduction. We're going to redeploy people to do other things and answer road questions or take road actions. That, we think, is a big driver for us as well. So more to come there, but we're pretty optimistic about how we're going to be able to continuously monetize AI over the course of the next several years.

Speaker 10

My question is about Device42. Dennis, you mentioned some of its strengths. Can you provide insight on the larger deals that seem to be significant? What kind of uplift are you observing in the Device42 product compared to core EX? Also, could you remind us of the timeline for the full product integration and the transition of the business model?

Yes. So thanks, Rob. I'll start with the second part of the question. So the timeline that we're operating on and that we're on is to release a cloud version of Device42 in the first quarter of '26, and that will roll out over time in phases in terms of the functionality that we embed into the first release versus where we'll be down the road, but that's when we'll get a cloud version that we can sell alongside Freshservice. In terms of the deal impact on the business, we observe that in some transactions, the recurring revenue from the device constitutes one-third of the total customer bill in multi-hundred thousand dollar deals, making it significant. For businesses with a mix of on-prem and cloud assets, we charge for Device42 based on the number of assets, meaning that a larger device footprint leads to a higher bill over time. This investment is beneficial for customers as it provides them with visibility into their assets that they previously lacked. Additionally, it is well integrated into Freshservice, allowing for root cause analysis and other functionalities if issues arise. This can have a considerable impact. We have had success in bringing Device42 into these new larger deals, so it's helping us move up market. We've also had success in selling it into our current account base. So overall, we're on track for, like I said earlier, the business plan that we put together before we acquired the company. We're pretty pleased with how the whole thing is working out.

Speaker 11

Tyler, I wanted to ask you about NRR trends. Your guidance, clearly, you're not ready to call a bottom, but that is a lagging metric. I was wondering if you could shed light on what you're seeing in terms of in-period NRR in comparison to that metric?

Yes. Thanks, Brian. So yes, net dollar retention, we come into the quarter saying it was going to be 104%. We came in at 104%. It was 106% as reported. The Device42 business actually had, let's call it, a negative impact on net dollar retention, one we expected. When we bought the company, we talked about how we expected some churn to be out of that their existing base because they're with competitors. We did see some of that. About 2/3 of a point pressure on net dollar retention. We're calling 104% for Q3 on a constant currency basis. You're right, it's a look back. We look at the prior ARR based on a year ago and kind of look at the activity and the expansion motion. We had really good expansion in Q2, so that was very positive for us. We continue to do well on churn, making kind of subtle progress, but we've been doing well on churn for a while now, and we're very optimistic on continuing to make progress there. So in general, it happened just as expected. There's no big surprises on that dollar retention.

Speaker 12

Tyler, second consecutive quarter that Freshworks has maintained a Rule of 40 model on an organic basis guidance implies that won't be the case in the second half. Can you just maybe frame what is the appetite and maybe longer-term kind of goal to drive efficient growth and maybe drive a sustainable return to a Rule of 40? And then Dennis, if you could just remind us on the AI opportunity, triple-digit growth here, 2% of ARR I think you did mention larger deals, you're seeing like a 25% attach rate, pretty big delta there, 2% versus 55%. So what's the line of sight to sustaining the triple-digit growth in that AI business? I know small but certainly growing very fast.

Yes. I can take the first part, Brett. We're really pleased with how we've been doing on the efficiency perspective, specifically on free cash flow. We talked that we are going to make some investments in the back half of the year but those investments are all taken into account. From a free cash flow perspective, we kind of called out what we expect Q3 and Q4 to be in for the full year, which is well above what we did coming into the year. In fact, I think it's $12 million more for the full year than what we said we're going to do coming into the year. This is a growth business. We've always said that we want to make sure that we are not sacrificing bottom line for growth. As we look in front of us, there are investments we want to make on the go-to-market side. All of those investments are taken into account in our guidance, but there were some that was timing and others that we're going to lean into. But in general, we're very pleased with how we're doing on the balance of growth and free cash flow, and we will lean into growth where we have the opportunities.

The AI opportunity is enormous. We've had significant success since launching copilot in Q1 of last year, and now we have 5,000 customers paying for the two AI products we monetize. However, we still have 73,000 customers, indicating there's much potential ahead. We believe that all our customers should be utilizing AI in both IT and customer experience, and they are beginning to adopt that perspective as well. So that's a very big opportunity. That's a multi-year opportunity to sustain growth for. And that's just those two SKUs that we're monetizing today. We also indirectly monetize through inclusion of AI functionality like AI insights into the higher-paid plans like enterprise on the EX side. There's a long way to go. We're just getting started with Agentic, just releasing our first true Agentic capabilities into EA in June. That's another lever of growth. That pricing model will be slightly different than our current AI agent without actions. We'll be pricing closer to what you see some of our competitors pricing for their Agentic products. That could be a meaningful driver for us because for our customers, they're going to be able to take costs out. We're going to share a fraction of that cost reduction. They can redeploy people to do other things and answer road questions or take road actions. That, we think, is a big driver for us as well. More to come there, but we're pretty optimistic about how we're going to be able to continuously monetize AI over the course of the next several years.

Speaker 10

My question is about Device42. Dennis, you mentioned some of its strengths. Can you provide insight into the larger deals and the impact they are having? Specifically, what kind of uplift are you observing in the Device42 product compared to core EX? Additionally, could you remind us about the timeline for both full product integration and the transition of the business model? We expect to hear more about this in September.

Yes. So thanks, Rob. I'll start with the second part of the question. So the timeline that we're operating on and that we're on is to release a cloud version of Device42 in the first quarter of '26, and that will roll out over time in phases in terms of the functionality that we embed into the first release versus where we'll be down the road, but that's when we'll get a cloud version that we can sell alongside Freshservice.

For the full year, we expect to use approximately $64 million to net settle vested equity amounts.

Operator

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