Intapp, Inc. Q2 FY2024 Earnings Call

Thank you for standing by and welcome to Intapp's Fiscal Second Quarter 2024 Webcast. Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. David Trone, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Welcome to Intapp's fiscal second quarter 2024 financial results. On the call with me today are: John Hall, Chairman and CEO of Intapp; and David Morton, Chief Financial Officer. During the course of this conference call, we may make forward-looking statements regarding trends, strategies and the anticipated performance of our business, including guidance provided for our fiscal third quarter and full year 2024. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current views and expectations, entail certain assumptions made as of today's date and are subject to various risks and uncertainties, including those described in our SEC filings and other publicly available documents, that are difficult to predict and could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Intapp disclaims any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. Further, on today's call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP metrics that we believe aid in the understanding of our financial results. As a reminder, all of our financial figures we will discuss today are non-GAAP, except for revenue and revenue growth and current remaining performance obligations. Our GAAP financial results, along with reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures can be found in today's earnings release and its supplemental financial tables which is available on our website and as an exhibit to the Form 8-K furnished with the SEC prior to this call, or a supplemental financial presentation which is available on our website. With that, I'll hand the conversation over to John.

Thank you, David. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today, as we share the results of our fiscal second quarter. I'm pleased to share our strong results supported by innovation, new logos and expansion of our existing accounts around the world. In Q2, our cloud ARR grew to $256.1 million, up 34% year-over-year. Cloud now represents 70% of our total ARR of $365 million. In the quarter, we earned SaaS and Support revenue of $77.1 million, up 25% year-over-year; and total revenue of $103.9 million, up 23% year-over-year. We released new applied AI capabilities and we built on the initial success of our industry solutions strategy during the quarter. And we announced that our inaugural Investor Day will take place on February 22. The date also marks our Intelligence Applied Launch Day, when we'll unveil a host of new applied AI capabilities as well as our AI roadmap and a new brand identity to our clients, partners and investors. We're excited to share these developments with all of you. Now, I'll share a few highlights from our fiscal second quarter. First, I'll talk about innovation. As I've mentioned, Intapp has been embedding industry-specific AI throughout our platform and solutions for more than 10 years now. We've infused our solutions with AI technology, including automation, machine learning, deep learning, and now generative AI, to help our clients use their data to improve critical processes and make better, faster decisions. During this quarter, we enhanced our relationship intelligence feature with new AI capabilities that automate contact and company creation within DealCloud. The feature captures key contacts and companies directly from client interactions, enriches and validates information via third-party data and then adds it directly to the platform. This helps professionals prioritize and act on their most promising opportunities and helps keep the entire firm's latest insights and relationships up-to-date. It's another example of our zero entry philosophy. We're delivering greater value to busy professionals while relieving them from manual tasks or typing. We're now deploying this at firms ranging from 10 to 5,000 seats, including one of the largest firms in the world who is using the solution across 40 countries. A great example from this quarter is McCabes Lawyers who added relationship intelligence to their DealCloud instance to support their lawyers as they deepen their relationships with clients. As I mentioned at the top of the call, we'll be revealing a broad set of AI capabilities at Intelligence Applied Launch Day on February 22. We will showcase how generative AI can help our clients drive incremental productivity, enable broader firm-wide transformation and do so with compliance and trust. During Q2, we worked closely with firms in our AI Early Adopter Program to use and provide feedback on these new features which we're excited to now bring to all our clients. Working closely with our clients to understand their needs has always been integral to Intapp's product development approach. We're ensuring that new applied AI capabilities are purpose-built for our client firms' most pressing and industry-specific needs. We're also continuing to expand our portfolio of industry solutions. We're growing our capabilities for each of the sub-verticals that we serve with specific DealCloud blueprints that enable best practices using applied AI. We delivered new blueprints for legal, private equity, and fund-of-funds. The latest release also included several enhancements to existing footprints as well as an accelerated deployment path for clients seeking best practices at an even faster time to value. We also extended our blueprint strategy to our DataCortex technology which supports faster integration with our many data partners, helping both new and existing clients enrich their data with critical market and contact intelligence. Our initial win rates, accelerated deployments and increased client satisfaction show us that our industry solution strategy of packaging best practice blueprints will serve us well and drive growth. As an example, this quarter, Rhone Group, a transatlantic private equity firm, selected DealCloud to replace its aging homegrown CRM using our private equity blueprint. Clients leveraging these blueprints deploy in roughly half the time and gain access to the best practices we have learned over thousands of deployments. With dozens more blueprints in the pipeline, we intend to build on our successes with continued expansion and enhancement of this offering. Okay. Moving to Q2 wins and implementations. I'll share some examples of how we're continuing to grow our client base and expand existing accounts. I'm pleased to share that we again welcomed new clients across every vertical that we serve. Here are just a few highlights: In our Investment Banking client base, global investment banking firm, Livingstone Partners replaced a legacy cloud-based CRM with DealCloud due to lack of adoption among their professionals. They were impressed by DealCloud's tailored platform and numerous Microsoft integrations and they anticipate significant efficiency gains. We saw expansion in our consulting client base with new logos that included these 2 firms: global consulting firm, AlixPartners selected DealCloud to replace a legacy CRM. With technology purpose-built for the complexity of their work, the firm's corporate development team will have greater visibility in the pipeline and be better able to execute deals. And private equity-focused consulting firm, Accordion, also recently selected DealCloud to support their growth strategy and promote collaboration among teams. They chose us over a generic cloud-based CRM because of our expertise in the market and our software's ability to suit their specific needs. We have also seen marked growth in the legal market this quarter with the addition of several new clients, including Panama-based Galindo, Arias & Lopez, who selected Intapp Time to take advantage of our automated time capture functionality. U.K.-based Marriott Harrison selected Intapp Time after deciding they required a more efficient, reliable, cloud-based time tracking system. And U.S.-based Porzio, Bromberg & Newman selected Intapp Conflicts to help automate the processes associated with managing the firm's high volume of conflicts checks. Additionally, cross-selling and upselling successes in our existing accounts continue to drive net revenue retention. Let me go through a few expansion examples. Global law firm and long-time Intapp Risk and Compliance client, Baker Botts, recently replaced a large legacy CRM with DealCloud. The firm selected DealCloud to support its strategic growth plans in the tech and energy sectors, DealCloud's intuitive interface and relationship intelligence capabilities helped drive their selection. The firm believes they'll help its lawyers develop new business, deepen client relationships and take market share from its competitors. Investment banking firm and DealCloud client Union Square Advisors selected our employee compliance offering to replace their previous solution. They chose our software as it offered an easier, more modern way to automate personal compliance tasks and monitor trade activity. And we continue to see success at the world's largest accounting and consulting firms. One of our existing global accounting clients uses Intapp solutions across multiple geographies and has now expanded its use of DealCloud to its Ireland and U.K.-based corporate finance team. DealCloud will replace the division's legacy CRM which had proved challenging to maintain and lacked adoption. DealCloud was selected over 2 large horizontal CRM options, based on our ability to deliver capabilities tailored to their transaction advisory business. This is a great example of the power of our industry solution blueprints to meet the specific needs of even the largest and most complex professional firms. Finally, cloud wins and implementations continue to affirm our strategy as shown through a number of new Intapp time migrations in the quarter. These include an Am Law top 10 firm that purchased Intapp Time in the cloud to benefit from features like automated data capture, mobile time entry and compliance time. Allen & Overy, one of the world's top law firms that typically uses on-prem solutions, completed a straight to cloud implementation for Intapp Time. And one of the world's largest international law firms completed its migration of Intapp Time from on-prem to the cloud. In conclusion, we're proud of our strong second quarter performance and we're optimistic about our continued growth opportunities. As our Q2 highlights illustrate, we continue to grow by adding new purpose-built capabilities to our platform, positioning us to help lead our industries to harness the power of generative AI and we can't wait to share our new applied AI capabilities, AI roadmap and new brand identity in greater detail just a few weeks from now. We see continued opportunity to drive growth, adding new clients across a broad TAM and expanding within our existing client base. We're serving a durable end market with our subscription revenue model and industry-specific cloud platform. We have a great growth opportunity to drive AI, cloud adoption and modernization across all the industries we serve. As always, I'd like to thank our clients, our partners, our investors, our Board and our global Intapp team for their teamwork and dedication. We hope you all join us on the 22nd for our Investor Day. You can find the link to the webcast on our website at investors.intapp.com. Thank you all very much. With that, let me turn it over to Dave to share our Q2 results.

Thanks, John and thanks, everyone, for joining us today. I'm pleased to report our solid second quarter performance driven by strong revenue growth, expanding customer base and enhanced operational efficiency within the quarter. These achievements collectively position us to extend our leadership as we embark on an exciting market opportunity in fiscal Q3 and Q4 of 2024 and beyond. SaaS and Support revenue was $77.1 million, up 25% year-over-year, reflecting sales to new clients and expansion of existing clients from both cross-selling and upselling sales motions. Subscription license revenue was $14.1 million, up 29% year-over-year, largely due to several large clients opting for multiyear on-premises renewals. Total recurring revenue was $91.3 million, up 26% year-over-year. Professional services revenue was $12.7 million, experiencing a modest 5% year-over-year increase. This growth rate is in line with our deliberate strategic shift to deemphasize professional services, opting instead to better leverage the strength of our partner network. The success of our industry solutions further contributes to clients realizing quicker time to value through an expedited implementation process. Total revenue was $103.9 million, up 23% year-over-year, driven primarily by sales of our cloud solutions and growth of subscription license revenue. Our international businesses provides a growth opportunity to further expand and invest in the use of our platform outside of the U.S. revenue from our international operations remained strong, contributing approximately 30% of total revenue for fiscal Q2. Q2 non-GAAP gross margin was 73.4% as compared to 71.5% in the prior year period. Non-GAAP operating expenses were $68.6 million, a $10.9 million increase year-over-year as we continue to invest in go-to-market and product development to support our growth. As we continue to focus on our operational efficiencies, non-GAAP operating profit was $7.6 million as compared to $2.8 million in the prior year period. Non-GAAP diluted EPS was $0.11 in the second quarter of fiscal 2024 as compared to $0.03 in the prior year period. Free cash flow, which is defined as our cash flow from operations less capital expenditures, was $11.8 million for the second quarter, or 11% of total revenue. We exited the quarter with $166.4 million of cash and cash equivalents. Turning to our key metrics. Cloud ARR was up 34% year-over-year and total ARR was up 21% year-over-year. Total remaining performance obligations were $447.6 million, up 15% year-over-year. Overall, we continue to execute our land-and-expand model, ending the quarter with more than 2,400 clients, 649 of which had ARR of at least $100,000, up from 561 in prior year period. Our net revenue retention rate underscores our ability to retain and steadily expand business with our existing customers. This key metric was 115% which continues to track within our range of 113% to 117%. Now turning to our outlook. For the third quarter of fiscal 2024, we expect SaaS and Support revenue between $80 million and $81 million; total revenue in the range of $107.5 million to $108.5 million; non-GAAP operating profit in the range of $6 million to $7 million; and non-GAAP EPS results of $0.06 to $0.08 using a diluted share count weighted for the quarter of approximately 81 million common shares outstanding. For the full year fiscal '24, we expect we are increasing our SaaS and Support revenue of between $312 million and $316 million. And due to our intentional shift in the revenue contribution mix specifically reducing the emphasis on professional services, we are maintaining our total revenue in the range of $422.5 million to $426.5 million. We also expect non-GAAP operating profit to be in the range of $27 million to $31 million and non-GAAP EPS in the range of $0.31 to $0.35 using a diluted share count weighted for fiscal year '24 of approximately 81 million common shares outstanding. And as previously noted, Intapp will be hosting our inaugural Investor Day on February 22. During this event, we will discuss our key strategic imperatives, metrics, financial targets while providing a comprehensive overview of our company's trajectory and future plans. We look forward to sharing valuable insights with stakeholders on the significant occasion. Thank you. And I will now turn the call back to the operator.

Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Koji Ikeda of Bank of America.

A couple from me. First one on AI, excited to hear about the AI launch day. And I wanted to actually follow up on a monetization question I asked you last year at our Tech Conference. So thinking about this AI launch day, how are you planning on monetizing these new AI products? Are you introducing new premium SKUs? I mean, are the add-on SKUs or something else? Any sort of color there would be helpful.

Koji, thank you. Yes, we will have a mix. So some of the capabilities will be included in our offerings that people have subscriptions today but we will also be introducing additional SKUs based on some of the more advanced capabilities that clients have been asking for. So we're going to do both.

Got it. Got it. And I wanted to shift the next question over to net revenue retention once again in the range of $113 million to $117 million. Just trying to triangulate a little bit of the contributions of net revenue retention, maybe split between a couple of vectors, professional services versus financial services and then maybe of the cross-sell of DealCloud versus anything else? And how all those are playing into net revenue retention?

Koji, it's Dave. Yes, we'll give some additional color to that at our upcoming Investor Day. I don't want to front run any of those key metrics. We're also articulating what that NRR looks like for off-prem as well, albeit not everything is created equal. And clearly, those that are advancing at a quicker rate of pace on the off-prem cloud solution, native solution. Obviously, that should have a higher clip rate.

Got it. Thank you. Looking forward to the Investor Day. Thanks so much.

Our next question comes from the line of Steve Enders of Citi.

Okay, great. I guess maybe just to start, intrigued to hear more about what's coming in the pipeline on the AI side. As you think about the opportunity within your customers, how do you feel about what gives you the right to win for those AI use cases and what ends up becoming the differentiator for Intapp in the marketplace versus other providers that might be targeting the use cases that you're going after?

Welcome, we're excited to be working with you. The positioning of the company overall and the positioning of our applied AI strategy are the same which is we specialize in these professional and financial services firms, the way that they work, the uniqueness of the partnership model and the high-end advisors and investors that work in these firms and the way that they work on complex deals, engagements, matters. And our whole angle on applied AI is to build all the capabilities of AI technologically into specific industry solutions that meet the needs of each of the practice areas, each of the deal types, each of the investment strategy teams in a way that feels compelling to the professional because somebody has really taken the time to understand how they work. And it's a huge differentiator for us that we've built the whole company with both technologists from Silicon Valley but also a huge population of people who have come from these firms themselves, so that the solutions that we design for the end users really speak directly to them when they see it for the first time. And the same thing for the applied AI generation of our industry solutions.

That's helpful. A couple of context there. And then Dave, maybe just on the outlook here, I just want to make sure that we're thinking about the puts and takes in the right way. It seems like there's a shift going away from services and that's the main, I guess, headwind or impact. But how should we be thinking about what that shift would be looking like over time? And then how considered that effort is to drive, I guess, more margin out of that as well?

No, for sure, Steve. I think over the long term, as we continue to model out, obviously we'll be looking to partner more and more with the economy that we continue to build up with the likes of partners within our ecosystem. And so, I think you've started seeing some early innings to that. Obviously, we're going to continue to be at the forefront, touch point with our respective clients. Think of more of a longer term model as a CSAT versus a revenue driver and then we're also our path to break even margin within that specific profile. And so, as we continue to look at the respective levers, both from growth factors as well as contribution margin, that is something that we'll continue to work on longer term. But the overall value and narrative on this value asset is clearly on our SaaS growth which continues to do very, very well and continues to be very, very durable.

Our next question comes from the line of Doug Bruehl of JPMorgan.

Congrats on the results. So looking at sales and marketing, seeing a bit of a decel in growth here. So maybe question, how are you thinking about balancing investing in growth versus realizing profitability?

Yes, it's a great question. I would tell you we're already started our FY '25 planning as we continue to look at the envelope and the scope that we're under today, as well as looking at productivity and areas for continued opportunity going forward. And so, it's always going to be a balance driving that additional leverage. And we think we can continue to scale not only with the investments that we've made over the past year or two and then continue to monetize that and hopefully see the rate of pace go from there.

Our next question comes from the line of Alex Sklar of Raymond James.

John and Dave, two-part question on DealCloud. You did some brand consolidation efforts last year. There's some nice wins that you announced in the prepared remarks this quarter. So John, first for you. Can you talk about how much DealCloud drove those wins versus kind of what your prior offering was to the professional services market in the past? And David, any financial benefit you've seen so far in the model from that brand consolidation?

Thank you, Alex. We have consolidated our brands. When we went public, we had a professional services brand called OnePlace that many firms recognized, but the technology represented was actually DealCloud technology. We started receiving numerous inquiries from the legal, accounting, and consulting fields requesting DealCloud by name. We decided to simplify our branding and leverage word-of-mouth for DealCloud across our market. This change affected some who initially chose the OnePlace brand, but it was purely a branding shift, not a technological one. There's now a lot of excitement as we see a broader community of DealCloud users coming together at our events, user conferences, and advisory boards, sharing best practices across their firms. We've discovered an underserved community with various professional specialties and deep expertise. When we consider how these firms operate, they chase opportunities in the market and cultivate a vast network of relationships. Their sales approach is not linear; it's a networked strategy that relies on referrals and collaboration. They enjoy engaging with one another. Thus, I believe that brand consolidation has proven to be beneficial for DealCloud. We're thankful to many firms this quarter who allowed us to highlight them as part of a growing community that views this as the next generation. With the introduction of applied AI and relationship intelligence to the DealCloud platform and our other offerings, there's significant excitement building for DealCloud. We will continue to focus on brand simplification as we move forward, especially with our next announcement on February 22, as we aim to enhance word-of-mouth sharing across the marketplace, which has been effective for us.

And I would say that's probably where you're going to see that manifest in the P&L the most. is that opportunity cost of winning and being able to focus all your efforts as we continue to cross-sell and upsell across our various industries that we serve using the same technology.

Okay, that's great color. We'll look for more there in the coming quarters then. John, the other thing you mentioned on the new blueprint strategy, or the somewhat new blueprint strategy, initial win rates, is something that you're seeing track higher as one of the few positive early developments talked about in the prepared remarks. Can you just elaborate on what you saw in terms of win rates versus prior quarters from that strategy?

The experience when you come in and present a specialized blueprint has evolved significantly. In the previous quarter, we discussed private credit, and this quarter, we've expanded our fund-to-funds blueprint. We're becoming more tailored to each professional team's communication and workflow, which helps them recognize that we have a solution that truly meets their needs. Not only do we serve a broad universe of 2,400 clients, but we also have 100 clients similar to them in terms of their work. This creates a strong psychological impact initially by showcasing our industry expertise, which instills confidence that we can quickly deploy and support them. A significant aspect of our offering is the time-to-value, assuring them of our ongoing support. We've seen positive reactions at both the early stages of engagement and in competitive discussions when clients are evaluating their options. Our presentation stands out in the market as we implement this strategy. We are very optimistic about our blueprint strategy and plan to expand it further. It enhances win rates, reduces time to value, and improves our services and cost efficiency, ultimately contributing to client success. We are strong advocates for the direction we're taking, and the entire applied AI strategy aligns with this blueprint approach. Our goal is to tailor applied AI to fit each professional's workflow.

John, Dave apologies in advance here if some of these questions have been asked, just to kind of hopping to a couple of calls. But John, maybe for you. I guess I wonder how you think about the seasonality here in the cloud business, particularly as we look at net new ARR. We have a really strong start to the year. Net new ARR was down a little bit sequentially. Is that sort of in line with kind of the shape that you think about in the business? Or in line with sort of your customer spending cycles? Just a little bit of color on how you think about the shape of that, based on kind of typical seasonality? Does that make sense?

Yes, absolutely. So generally speaking, our year ends in June and some of the clients have figured that out. So we tend to have different patterns across the quarters. Some of their years end now, some of them in the U.K. end in April. So there is some fluctuation from quarter to quarter. I think in this quarter we had strong results. We also saw a little bit of a mix evolution. The professional services firms like legal, accounting and consulting were strong. We were very interested to see the economic reports about the hiring there that kind of matched when we saw it come out. We also saw in investment banking a little bit of budget management from some of the large firms and we saw the economic reports and some of the news about that and that made sense to us after the quarter was over. So I think we've benefited from some of our diversification across these firms. We've talked about that as a durable model and we've grown through lots of different parts of the economic cycle consistently because of this. But there was some of that in this quarter's results that we worked through.

No, for sure, Steve. I think over the long term, as we continue to model out, obviously we'll be looking to partner more and more with the economy that we continue to build up with the likes of partners within our ecosystem. And so, I think you've started seeing some early innings to that. Obviously, we're going to continue to be at the forefront, touch point with our respective clients. Think of more of a longer term model as a CSAT versus a revenue driver and then we're also our path to break even margin within that specific profile. And so, as we continue to look at the respective levers, both from growth factors as well as contribution margin, that is something that we'll continue to work on longer term. But the overall value and narrative on this value asset is clearly on our SaaS growth which continues to do very, very well and continues to be very, very durable.

Our next question comes from the line of Parker Lane of Stifel.

John, you guys have been doing applied AI for a while but clearly you're bringing a lot more AI solutions to the market. We'll see those later this month. Curious if you could talk about, I guess, the acceptance or willingness of your different end markets to leverage AI and their workflows. Is the feedback there generally positive? Do you think there's a big opportunity in the near-term? Or is it going to take some time for people to really trust what's going on behind the scenes, get their hands on these tools before you see budgets starting to free up around AI?

I think, there's some early adopters who are really enthusiastic because they just feel how big a potential there is for AI to make its way into these knowledge-based professionals. So much of their work is about serving large sets of data regardless of their area of expertise. They're looking across large areas of data to try to develop a point of view, either for a deal investment decision for advice to their clients. And then, from a daily workflow standpoint, so much of what they do is unstructured information processing to come back to clients and orchestrate deals and all these different types of advisory activities that they do, that there's a lot of excitement about the broad potential, particularly now of the generative AI store. So there's some early folks who are in and then there's some more pragmatic folks who are saying, 'This is all great. I believe it but what are we going to do about the compliance questions? What are we going to do about the information access questions? Big organization globally with a lot of knowledge buried in our systems. If we point AI at that, how are we going to make sure that we comply with all the regulatory obligations and the client obligations that we have?' And so, this is an area that we're very focused on because we've had such a strong position in the compliance aspect of these industries and their information for so many years. We think we can bring a unique value proposition that has all the potential of AI applied in industry-specific ways. But one of the core issues in industry-specific applications around AI here is the compliance and trust set of concerns. So this is a theme you're going to hear from us. This is where we're going, is to bring a more compliant story to the whole AI opportunity. And we think that will lower the barriers and the concerns that anybody might have. And so in terms of timeline, we're not making specific commitments today but I think we can do all the work to get the fastest AI deployment in these firms through that perspective.

Got it. That's really great feedback. I was curious if you could talk about the Intapp Time migration, specifically the large law firms or the ones that have held out and been on premise in the past. Why now? Is the simple question. What incentive are people seeing to move to the cloud and what drives that inside of the laggards that you still have remaining on premise?

Yes, it's been interesting. I think we've talked a little bit about the fact that when everybody had to go home for COVID, a lot of these firms had a wake-up moment because people could get access and have the right experience for all their traditional in-house built or on-prem solutions. So I think that was a permanent change in the mindset; and the firms have made a cloud-first or a cloud-only commitment coming out of that. Even the most sort of legacy environments have made that commitment. What's happening now is, firms have had a couple of years to get their IT projects organized, their priorities rolling through, clear everything out and actually start making the meaningful moves to the cloud. So we do encourage our firms to do that. We haven't gotten really prescriptive that they must do it on a particular timeline yet and yet a lot of them have flipped and are started pulling us into the market and I think it's just a great sign. I think that the firms are going cloud and we're getting into a stronger and stronger position to help them benefit from all the new technology and particularly all the AI technology that you can really only get in a cloud platform. So, it's just the normal development of the market and I think this is going to go faster here.

John, Dave, and David, congratulations on the solid results this quarter. I have two questions. First, regarding the ongoing relationship at multiple levels with Microsoft, particularly in relation to the Azure marketplace and the use of prepaid cloud spending, how is that developing? Additionally, I have a follow-up question for Dave.

Thanks, Terry. The Microsoft relationship is continuing to grow and develop. We're forming more and more relationships on the ground in each of the accounts. And we had some really exciting wins here in this quarter where some firms already had minimum Azure commitment contracts with Microsoft and they used that to buy from us. And then, we even had some firms that realized they could do that and they signed up for contracts because they were going to buy Intapp and they could get some additional benefits from Microsoft. So there's a lot of positive feedback going between our field and Microsoft's field on this point and I think it is helping us.

Yes. First and foremost, Terry, I still think we're working on some continued operational efficiencies, just normal course. I've been here for 6 months and we're just trying to get a little more cadence and some constants around just normal things such as our receivables and simple things like that, right? Which at face value doesn't really come up with a lot but then there's still a lot of opportunity for us to move forward. So I would say that seasonality will, in theory come more apparent when we get into FY '25 about midway through the year. And then we can look at okay, on a normal course, how's our respective business that leads in. John, already oriented around in June for EMEA and others, as well as December here for U.S. And so, as we continue to look at some of those bigger accounts that may move the needle with standard payment terms of 30, 60 days, clearly that would follow in the following quarters. So something we can come back and talk a little bit more in detail here in a quarter or two.

Our next question comes from the line of Matt VanVliet of BTIG.

Maybe a quick follow-up on the Microsoft partnership from Terry's question here. But as you think about sort of the overall contribution margin when you're getting customers to come through that channel and really leverage some of those existing contracts or prepaid spend, is there a specific margin uplift we can think about? Or is it more of an overtime as more of the workloads move to Azure that you just gained the leverage on the gross margin side? Just help us think about sort of the dollar-for-dollar on a direct sale versus one that comes through the Microsoft channel.

So I think generally, I'll give some color and then Dave, you can talk about anything you want to add. The relationship so far has had a relatively small fraction of our overall business coming through this channel in that sort of way around the Azure commitments. It is something that's causing us to win in certain large accounts that already have those. And then, as I mentioned, we've started to see some more firms come on board. It's not our overall model today but I think there's opportunity to continue to grow the contribution that comes from the Microsoft's relationship in each and every deal as we grow the business. So I think it is early days generally on this model. At the same time, we're getting a lot of energy and visibility and buzz working with them and meeting a lot of the clients that they have and working together in a lot of the regions around the world where they have a strong footprint and they have Azure capabilities. So I think it is a net positive today, even though we're early in the place where that model may be a major contributor.

Yes. No, John is spot on. When you think some of the larger enterprise in their respective industries that we serve, not only is it check the box but it's also a great avenue for additional conversations of what can foreshadow opportunities on both ends. And so, I think that's been a great series of conversation points. When you think about just overall impact in today's P&L, as John had noted, it's very immaterial and dollar-for-dollar it's same. And so, like we're looking longer term and how we continue to evolve both of these relationships and get some materiality that we could give some additional color on. Yes, it's a great question. I would tell you we're already started our FY '25 planning as we continue to look at the envelope and the scope that we're under today, as well as looking at productivity and areas for continued opportunity going forward. And so, it's always going to be a balance driving that additional leverage. And we think we can continue to scale not only with the investments that we've made over the past year or two and then continue to monetize that and hopefully see the rate of pace go from there.

All right. Okay. That does conclude our Q&A session. I'd like to turn the call over to John Hall for any closing remarks.

Okay. Thanks, everyone. We appreciate your attention and your questions and we have a great Q2 behind us. And we're excited to talk to you again this month at Investor Day on February 22. So for now, we'll let you go. Have a great day.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.