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Thank you for standing by, and welcome to First Western Financial's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star 11 again. I would now like to hand the call over to Tony Rossi. Please, go ahead.
Thank you, Lateef. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for First Western Financial's third quarter 2025 earnings call. Joining us from First Western's management team are Scott Wiley, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Julie Korkamp, Chief Operating Officer, and David Weber, Chief Financial Officer. We will use this slide presentation as part of our discussion this morning. If you have not done so already, please visit the events and presentations page of First Western's Investor Relations website to download a copy of the presentation. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements with respect to the future performance and financial condition of First Western Financial that involve risks and uncertainties. Various factors could cause actual results to be materially different from any future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. These factors are discussed in the company's SEC filings, which are available on the company's I would also direct you to read the disclaimers in our earnings release and investor presentation. The company disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during the call. Additionally, management may refer to non-GAAP measures, which are intended to supplement but not substitute for the most directly comparable GAAP measures. The press release available on the website contains the financial and other quantitative datum information to be discussed today, as well as the reconciliation of the gap to non-gap measures. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Scott. Scott?
Thanks, Tony, and good morning, everybody. Starting on slide three, we executed well in the third quarter and saw positive trends in many areas of loan deposit growth, growth in our net interest income, well-managed expenses, and generally stable asset quality. This resulted in an increase in our level of profitability and positive operating leverage. The market remains very competitive in terms of pricing on loans and deposits. We continue to successfully generate new loans and deposits by offering superior level of service, expertise, and responsiveness rather than winning business by offering the highest rates on deposits or the lowest rates on loans as other banks are doing. We continued to maintain a conservative approach to new loan production with our disciplined underwriting and pricing criteria. However, as a result of the additions we've made to our banking team over the past few years, as well as generally healthy economic conditions in our markets, we had a solid level of loan production, which was well diversified across our markets and industries and loan types. As a result of our financial performance and the balance sheet management strategies, we had a further increase in both book value and tangible book value per share, and we used our strong capital position to repurchase some of our shares during the third quarter which was a creative to our tangible book value per share. Moving to slide four we generated net income of 3.2 million or 32 cents per diluted share in the third quarter which higher than the prior quarter and a 45 percent increase from our EPS in the third quarter of last year. With our prudent balance sheet management our tangible book value per share increased by 1.2% this quarter. I'll turn over the call to Julie for some additional discussion on our balance sheet and trust investment management trends. Julie?
Thanks Scott. Turning to slide 5, we'll look at the trends in our loan portfolio. Our loans help for investment increase 50 million from the end of the prior quarter. We continue to be conservative and highly selective in our new loan production, but with the higher level of productivity we are seeing from the additions to our banking team that we have made over the last several quarters, we are seeing a solid level of new loan production, while we are also seeing an increase in CRE loan demand that meet our underwriting and pricing criteria. New loan production was $146 million in the third quarter. The new loan production was well diversified, with the largest increases coming in our residential and commercial real estate portfolios, and we are also getting deposit relationships with most of these new clients. We continue to be disciplined and are maintaining our pricing criteria, which resulted in the average rate on new loan production being 6.38% in the quarter. Moving to slide six, we can take a closer look at our deposit trend. Our total deposits increased $320 million from the end of the prior quarter. This was due to both new accounts and a buildup among existing client balances. We had an increase in non-interest-bearing deposits due to inflows we saw from title companies driven by mortgage industry volume. Additionally, we had an increase in interest-bearing deposits as a result of the successful execution of our deposit gathering strategy. Now, turning to trust and investment management on slide 7, we had a $64 million decrease in our assets under management in the third quarter, primarily attributed to net withdrawals on low fee product categories, partially offset by improved market conditions on investment agency accounts. This resulted in increased $43 million or $2.7 million during the quarter. Trust and investment management fees increased $100,000 from the prior quarter, primarily driven by the increase in investment agency AUM. Now I'll turn the call over to David for further discussion of our financials. David.
Thank you, Julie. Turning to slide 8, we'll look at our gross revenue. Our gross revenue increased 8.7% due to increases in both net interest income and non-interest income. Year over year, our gross revenue increased 15.5%. Now turning to slide 9, we'll look at the trends in net interest income and margin. Our net interest income increased for and increased 8.9% primarily due to an increase in our average interest-earning asset growth we had contributing to our income increased 25%. Our NIM decreased 13 basis points from the prior quarter to 2.54%. This was due to unfavorable mixed shifts in both interest-earning assets and deposits, as our deposit growth during the quarter was in higher-cost money market accounts. Strong deposit growth during the quarter contributed to higher cash. As this liquidity is deployed into the loan portfolio during the fourth quarter, we expect to see NIMM expansion. Interest income income or 8.5%, which is 34%, especially due to increases in all major fee categories, including trust and investment management fees, insurance fees, and gain on sale of mortgage loans. on sale of mortgage loans was driven by a higher and the increase in trust investment management fees was driven by an increase in investment agency AUM as a result of improving non-interest expense increased by less than one as we continue to tightly manage expenses while also making investments in the business that we believe will positively impact our long-term. We'll look at our asset. God indicated earlier slight increases in MPLs and MPAs. This was primarily due to one loan that was downgraded during the quarter. We had a minimal level of net charge-offs again this quarter. We had a slight increase in our allowance coverage from 75 basis points in the prior quarter to 81 basis points in the third quarter. Now I'll turn it back to Scott.
Thanks David. Turning slide 13 I'll wrap up with some comments about our outlook. Overall we continue to see relatively healthy economic conditions in our markets and we're seeing good opportunity to add both new clients and banking talent to the ongoing disruption from M&A activity here in the Colorado market. Our loan deposit pipelines remain strong and should continue to result in solid balance sheet growth in the fourth quarter. In addition to balance sheet growth, we also expect to see positive trends in net interest margins, fee income, and more operating leverage resulting from our discipline expense control. Based on trends we're seeing in the portfolio and the feedback we're getting from our clients we're not seeing anything to indicate that we'll experience any meaningful deterioration and asset quality the positive trends we're seeing in a number of key areas are expected to continue which we believe should result in steady improvement in our financial performance and further value being created for our shareholders going so with that we're happy to take your questions Lateef if you could please open up the call yes sir as a reminder to ask a question you You will need to press star one one on your telephone to remove yourself from the queue.
You may press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Brett Robotin of the Hubdy Group. Please go ahead, Brett.
Hey, good morning, everyone. I wanted to start with. Hey, I wanted to start with the deposits and the strong MNBA growth. and if I heard you correct it sounds like that's a mix of internal efforts as well as maybe the mortgage department is just any can you maybe go into a little more color there and then are those levels sticky the growth in the level thanks I think we've talked about our efforts to grow deposits and the fact that that would happen a little bit you know lumpy fashion wouldn't be big surprise given our history here you know we do see large deposits coming in
and out and in this case I think the things that we saw that happened in Q3 are deposits that are going to stay here and give us a higher deposit base to grow from into Q4 okay that's helpful and then the MPA that you added during the quarter you know any any color on that credit and then just was there part of the provision related to a specific reserve for that for that MTA yeah I think you know we have a number of credits that have performance issues over time and this is one that is a CNI loan we have been paying attention to it
we downgrade it in Q3 and we do have a specific provision for it we expect it to be um worked out and worked through over time the provision is more than okay uh and then just maybe lastly if i could ask on the margin um julie you indicated the margin would be up from here any magnitude that you could share in terms of what you think 4q might look like you know presuming we get a rate cut or two i think we do have opportunity to see name expansion um if you look at the the amount of liquidity that's sitting on the balance sheet if
we redeploy that into the loan portfolio at something like plus 200 I think to continue to improve earning asset yields I think we've got okay David any magnitude that you're thinking about in terms of basis points I'm I'm thinking we can achieve you know something like five basis points of the expansion.
Okay. Okay. Great. Appreciate all the color.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Clark of Piper Sandler. Your line is open, Matthew.
Thanks. Want to start on the spot rate on deposits at the end of the quarter?
Yeah, Matthew, it was 3.04%.
Okay.
Then any updated thoughts on the beta you're looking to achieve with additional fed rate cuts through the through the cycle and whether or not that you know starts to decline over time yeah it it has been declining and it will certainly continue we achieved somewhere around a 63 percent beta on money market accounts I think that's reasonable for the fourth quarter expectation as well okay and then the expense run rate going forward.
I think some of the increase this quarter was related to incentive comp. But what are your thoughts on the run rate here in the fourth quarter?
Yeah, the incentive comp can vary certainly with the financial performance, something similar.
Great. And then last one for me, just on the wealth management business, AUM down a little bit. It looked like it was in the lower fee products, though may have been deliberate, not sure, but any update on the kind of renewed growth and profitability improvement strategy there?
Yeah, well, we've definitely been working on getting that going again, and we've replaced the team on the trust and in the planning side. We've got a new leader that joined us at the beginning of the second quarter for our planning team and definitely seeing some nice progress from them. As David noted, you know, we saw AUM go down, which is not really something we manage for. We're really more concerned about the fee income, and we saw fee income grow in the agency accounts in Q3, which is, you know, what we want to see. So definitely nice progress from that new team with, I think, a lot more to come.
Great. Thank you.
And, Matt, just a little bit more color on deposit pricing. You know, with the increase in deposits, you're always going to see relatively expensive at first, and then it's going to moderate over time, typically, with these new relationships and additional deposits you bring in. Your average deposit costs last quarter peaked at $3.22 in August, and then we're down about $3.15 in September. and then, as David said, ended the quarter at 3.04. So you're seeing a nice trend just within the quarter there. So hopefully, you know, we can see that continue into Q4.
Yep. Okay. Thanks again.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Will Jones of KBW. Please go ahead, Will.
Yeah. Hey, guys. Thanks for the questions. I wanted to circle back to the deposit growth. You know, obviously, a fairly banner quarter there for deposits, and it sounds like you expect maybe to see a little bit more balance sheet growth in the fourth quarter here. But should we in any way view, you know, this large influx of deposits as a way to pre-fund your expected growth for 2026? And maybe 2026 then becomes more about just remixing the balance sheet.
And then just, I guess, pairing within that, you obviously have a fair amount of liquidity from the deposit growth. how should we think about you guys being a little more opportunistic with us securities purchases at this point well that was a three-part question so let me see if I can get them all here yeah I was sorry about that through a bunch at you well we appreciate the question so so I think you're right on with the the idea that we were opportunistic and bringing deposits on we have done a number of things over the last 12 months to get the team here focused on deposit growth we know we can grow loans and we wanted to see the loan to deposit ratio come more the way you described that is reasonable although I would say you know it's not like a one-off thing that pre funds 2026 or something like that I mean I think this is an ongoing effort that goals throughout the product group throughout the our PTM world planning trust investment management world goes definitely through each one of our 19 locations you know we require relationships with each loan and and that includes deposits and so very much a focus of the company you know I think that you know we're seeing a lot of market disruption out there so you know on one hand you've got you know it's competitive environment for deposits, but you've also got people that don't want to be with really large out-of-state banks, and that disruption is continuing, I would say increasing, and that creates opportunity for talent, for people that we can bring centrally to support our teams. We can bring new people into our teams, and then we're bringing in new clients, and so I think that's going to continue. I don't really see any reason to think that's going to abate, and at the same time we've got this tiny little market share in most of our markets you know we're kind of one or two percent in our bigger markets and less than the newer markets so in you know strong and growing economy so I think you know all those things set up for some nice continued asset growth into okay thanks but thoughtful response um and this as I kind of like pair some of those comments just just into how you know the margin looks for 2026 as I kind of look back how you've transformed the margin this year, about 20 to 25 basis points of year-over-year expansion.
Do you think that magnitude is repeatable again in 2026? Is the opportunity there from both a deposit pricing standpoint and loan growth standpoint to see that kind of magnitude again in 2026?
Well, what I've been seeing is that we really got heavily impacted by that rapid run-up in short-term rates and the inverted yield curve and that we thought that that would turn around and we'd see nice deposit betas as rates declined, which we have. And the fact that we've seen 22 basis point improvement from Q3 of last year to Q3 of this year, I think it's a nice start in that. We've moved out of the 230s into the 250s, and, you know, I continue to think that, you know, in normal environments, my banks, including this one, have produced, you know, 315, 320, three and a quarter NIM for the way we do business, and that's where I think we're going. I don't think we're going to get there next quarter. I don't know if we can get there next year, but that, I think, is going to continue and the fact we've seen that amount of improvement here over the last 12 months in spite of the growth that we've seen on the balance sheet I think is really promising and bodes well for continued operating leverage into 2025.
Yeah okay very helpful there and then lastly for me you touched a little bit on in some of your comments just the organic opportunity that's arisen from some of the M&A disruption but there has been a lot of deal announcements there's been a lot of price discovery so just just curious how you think about your own scarcity value within that and then maybe how you view yourself as a downstream buyer potentially of banks you know we believe our job is to drive shareholder value and we believe our path to create shareholder value is
creating operating leverage in our business here by growing revenues a lot faster than expenses and you know that turns into improved efficiency ratio improved bottom line and you know we're not happy where the profitability is we're not happy where the efficiency ratio is but we've made a bunch of investments here over the last couple years and changes that are now paying off and we're seeing the green shoots of that and that's going to drive it continued organic growth and operating leverage for us and you know now talked a couple times about why we think that continues into 26 and beyond so specifically in terms of scarcity value you know clearly uh you know first western is is a unique franchise that both is becoming more unique in colorado but i would say also more unique as a successful wealth management business on a national basis i mean i think the bank in a lot of ways most similar to us in terms of their, you know, balance sheet and AUM was fine mark in Florida. And the fact that they sold for six and a half times revenue and 92 times trailing earnings to a really good buyer, I think is an interesting data point for us. And, you know, I know others use other metrics on that, but I mean, I think that's what the data is. So yeah, I think there's a good scarcity value here. I think our clients frankly see that and they find us to be a desirable place to do business I think you know other bankers around the car in terms of Acquisitions, you know, we would love to be buyers. We've done that over the years a lot 13 times and You know, we just have to get our stock price back to something reasonable And you know definitely there's a lot of activity out there that we could benefit from if we can get our stock price back in line or when we get our stock price.
Thanks, Tyler. I appreciate that response. That's all for me.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bill DeZellum of Tison Capital Management. Please go ahead, Bill.
Thank you. First of all, Scott, it sounded like you may have had some additional comments that you were going to share to the last question. I'll let you do that if there's something more you want to add.
I'll add a few comments at the end. Thank you, Bill.
All right. So, continuing down the consolidation route, would you talk about what transactions have been most disruptive and possibly favorably impactful for First Western?
Yeah, you know, I don't entirely understand it, Bill, so I can't really give you, you know, a really solid prediction of what's going to happen with all this, but I would tell you that when Guaranty Bank and CoBiz sold, I thought that was going to create a lot of opportunity, because our type of clients definitely were at those two banks, and I thought with them being acquired by out-of-state banks, that was going to create a lot of opportunity for us. As it turned out, it didn't, and I think a lot of the reason for that is the bankers stayed in place for a while, and then when they did move, they were really bid up by other players, and so it got to be really expensive to bring those folks over. Now, with the second-tier acquisitions that we're seeing, for example, with Citywide, which was a really great local family-owned and family-run Bank, they sold to Heartland, I don't know when, five, seven years ago, something like that, and then I think Heartland really had a strategy of trying to run these local banks as, you know, the way they had run historically. UMB buys Heartland. UMB is going to drive a UMB culture into what used to be citywide, and so, you know, we've seen some good people and good opportunities come out of that, and so I think Like, interestingly, it's sort of the second tier acquisitions that really create more opportunities in some way. And then the First Bank one in this market is just really interesting. Like, First Bank is a great retail bank and just really loved by Colorad. There's this emotional tie that I don't entirely understand. But definitely, you know, local people here, local business leaders, local entrepreneurs have strong relationships with that company, and it's just going to be a challenge for a big national player to keep that passion, and, you know, we'll see. I mean, we've had lots of calls. We have clients that bank here and bank there, and, you know, you can be pretty sure that those folks are calling us to saying, you know, what additional capacity you guys have for us to stay with you guys. So I don't know how all that plays out, Bill. I do feel like we're seeing more benefits of the disruption in today's market than what we saw five or seven years ago. And again, I'm not sure all the reasons why, but it's been really good for us.
So let me take that one step further. Do you sense that you have the opportunity to become the new bank that Coloradans love, that others look at you and go, we don't even know why, but they sit on this pedestal?
I do know our clients love us. We're never going to be a retail bank the way First Bank was. First Bank, one of their strengths was they did one thing. and over the years, you know, I've talked to people like John Icard and the other CEOs over there, and they're like, well, what do you think about the trust investment management business? And I would tell them, and they would say, well, that's fine, but, you know, we're never going to do that at First Bank. So, I mean, they're just very focused on being a retail bank, and I think they did that better than anybody, and we're not ever going to do that. We're not going to open branches on every corner like Data and stuff like that. So, I think, you know, we'll continue being First Western, I know that our folks are very committed to their markets and their communities. You know, we talk here about taking care of our four key stakeholders, which are shareholders, associates, clients, and communities. And so, you know, we try and do those things that are right for our people and create that emotional connection that you're talking about and certainly went on our niche you know that's something we would hope to expand and build on that's helpful thank you and then relative to Arizona specifically are you seeing anything from a transaction standpoint that you see as benefiting your opportunity for for bringing on new people there think we've announced it yet oh we have Julie's telling me so I I was thinking I was gonna make some news here, Julie, but you're ahead of me. But we actually recruited one of the top folks out of First Republic to build our franchise in Arizona for us. And he had a garden leave period and all that stuff, but he's now joined us. And we are really optimistic about what we think the team there can do in the years to come. I think that that Arizona market for us, if we had the same tiny market share that we had in Arizona that we have in Colorado, we would be, what's the number, Julie, $4 billion, $6 billion, bigger, something like that. And so that's what we've charged the team there to come up with. I think we've got a leader in place that can do it.
Congratulations on that. One additional question, please. is the excess cash that you have on the balance sheet, how long are you thinking that it will take to redeploy that cash?
Yeah, actually, that was one of the three-part questions that I missed on David. And do you want to talk about what we've done already with investments?
Yeah, I mean, Bill, if you kind of look back at the history of our balance sheet, we have our liquidity and capital. That continues. Now, that being said, when there are opportunities from a bond, we will take advantage of them. So, we did add about $50 million to the bond portfolio. So, I think the focus is still to deploy that liquidity into the loan portfolio. But, you know…
Two follow-on questions to that. Number one, is that the $49 million available for sale that's now on the balance sheet that you're referring to? Okay, thank you. And then that redeploying of that, is this something that is a two, three-quarter phenomenon given what you see with economic activity? Is it something you think by the end of the Q4? Is it more like full year next year? I guess I'm looking for a bit more solid view of how you see loan demand relating to that excess cash, excess liquidity, I should say.
Yeah, good question, Bill. We expect to continue a good, you know, we, given our loan pipelines and what we're seeing in our markets, we do expect those trends to continue. I don't think it's a, you know, year down the road type of thing.
Great, thank you both. I would just add, Bill, a modest growth rate in a balance sheet, right? Like, I think that expectation is that we can grow single digits, that single digits may be low double digits. We're not interested particularly in growing faster than that. And I think that you're going to see this growth continue at a modest, moderate pace here into 2026 from everything we know. expecting to go out and lend all this money out next week. That is not in our game.
Great. Thank you again.
Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Scott Wiley for closing remarks, sir.
Thank you. we said for several quarters that we had success playing defense and that we were going to shift back onto offense in 2025. You know, we had some pretty stiff headwinds there for a while with short that rapid run up 525 basis points in short-term rates we had that inverted yield curve for an extended period we have three of the four largest bank failures in US history including First Republic which very much was seen as a successful player in our niche but we said you know we got through the defense let's shift over to offense and really leverage the investments that we've made over the past couple years in five key areas you know we've replaced our technology and infrastructure. We've moved to a completely cloud-based environment. We've installed middleware. We've rolled out a new digital platform. We're adding all kinds of new services and tools onto that tech platform that really, I think, help us be a leader from the tech standpoint. We've reorganized, number two, our product teams, our loan, deposit, investment management, planning, trust, mortgage teams have all been strengthened and reorganized. We've expanded our PC local office teams. We've given them a new proprietary toolbox for growth and rolled that out here in the last quarter. We've reset and standardized our internal control processes for more efficiency and value add so that we're competing on value and not on price. And number five, we've rebuilt our credit and risk and support and marketing teams to support the First Western that we envision for the future. And that's all paid for and in our current expense structure. So we were hoping to see some green shoots of progress in that this year, and that showed up in Q3. Our net interest income was up 35% Q over Q, quarter over quarter annualized. Our fees were up 31.6% quarter over quarter annualized. In each of our key areas, David pointed that out, which I thought was a really great pointing. In PTEM, in insurance, in bank, in mortgages, we saw a nice growth. Our pre-provisioned revenues were up almost 35% quarter over quarter annualized. And our efficiency ratio is trending down with operating leverage up. So thinking about 2026, you know, we do our business planning in the fourth quarter. And so that's a big project that we're doing now with each department head and in each office. And so we'll see how all that plays out. But if you just look at Q3 year-over-year trend lines, and, you know, our net interest income is up 25% year-over-year. And that was done with modest growth in the balance sheet plus NIM improvement, which drives nice operating leverage, which we saw. Our fees were up 21% from September of last year to September of this year. and our operating expenses were only up 4%, and that was mainly due to incentive comp that is driven off of revenue growth. So if we had, you know, higher expenses in Q4 because we're paying incentive growth because we're seeing good, incentive comp because we're seeing good growth, and that's a good problem to have. So looking past this quarter, you know, our intention is to get back to be a high financial performance like we were earlier in this decade, And, you know, we have a clear path to 1% ROAA and plenty of room beyond that. You know, we were honored to be named one of just 16 KBW Bank Honor Roll members in 2025 for our performance over last year. We were just, I think, made, as of Q3 now, Piper Sandler's list of the top 200 U.S.-listed banks in size. And then we just saw our schedule for the HVD conference down in Florida in a couple weeks. And the organizers there asked us to add some time slots because of high demand. So I think, you know, there's good momentum here. We're really optimistic about how we can finish the year and continue to deliver shareholder value into 2026. Thanks, everybody, for your support, and thanks for dialing in today. We really appreciate it.
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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