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Navient Corp Q3 FY2021 Earnings Call

Navient Corp (NAVI)

Earnings Call FY2021 Q3 Call date: 2021-10-26 Concluded

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Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Navient Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. Nathan Rutledge, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Nathan Rutledge Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Lawrence. Good morning and welcome to Navient's third quarter 2021 earnings call. With me today are Jack Remondi, our CEO, and Joe Fisher, our CFO. After their prepared remarks, we will open up the call for questions. Before we begin, keep in mind our discussion will contain predictions, expectations, forward-looking statements, and other information about our business that is based on management's current expectations as of the date of this presentation. Actual results in the future may be materially different from those disclosed here. This could be due to a variety of factors. Listeners should refer to the discussion of those factors on the company's Form 10-K and other filings with the SEC. During this conference call, we will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including core earnings, adjusted tangible equity ratio, and various other non-GAAP financial measures derived from core earnings. Our GAAP results and description of our non-GAAP financial measures and a full reconciliation to GAAP can be found in the third quarter 2021 supplemental earnings disclosure. This is posted on the Investor page at navient.com. Thank you. And I will turn the call over to Jack now.

Thanks, Nathan. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us today and for your interest in Navient. Our business model and execution continued to deliver strong results and create value. This quarter's financial results build on our efforts to maximize cash flow from our legacy portfolio, create value from the origination of high-quality student loans, and leverage our operating platform to deliver valuable outsourcing services to our clients across multiple business lines. For the quarter, core earnings totaled $149 million, with an adjusted core earnings per share of $0.92. With another quarter of exceptional financial performance, we are again raising our adjusted core EPS forecast for 2021 to at least $4.50 per share. Projected earnings per share for 2021 are now more than 40% higher than our forecast at the start of the year. This quarter's results were driven by stable margins in our lending segments, strong demand for our private education loan products, and continued strength in delivering services to our state and local clients in our Business Processing Solutions segment. Net interest income remained robust this quarter, increasing $17 million over the prior quarter. We continue to benefit from a favorable interest rate environment, lower funding costs, and an increase in our private education loan balances. During the quarter, we originated $1.5 billion in refinance student loans, an increase of 16% over the year-ago quarter. Though the extension of the interest waiver on federal direct loans through January 31st significantly tempered demand for our refinance loan product this year, we were able to grow by helping borrowers with private loans lower their interest rates. We do expect demand to increase in 2022 with the expiration of the interest and payment waiver next January. In-school loan volume in the quarter totaled $153 million, and for the full year, we expect loan volume to exceed $200 million. These loans are purchased after they are fully dispersed. We are also confident that the combined loan volume will exceed our original forecast of $5.5 billion for 2021. In our Business Processing segment, revenue increased 36% over the year-ago quarter as a result of the extension of our contracts assisting states in various COVID-related project work. Through this work, we've been able to demonstrate the agility of our platforms and people to respond to new and large needs with speed, efficiency, and effectiveness. While these contracts are expected to end this year, we are focused on leveraging this experience in demonstrating our value proposition to develop new opportunities. We are optimistic about our opportunities here, but acknowledge that the more typical RFP timelines and startup schedules are significantly longer than what we experienced during the pandemic. Credit performance remains very strong. We are seeing continued resilience from our FFELP and private education loan borrowers leading to low levels of delinquency and default. Our outlook remains cautious given the planned return to repayment of the federal direct loan portfolio in February, and our loan loss reserves reflect this. Operating efficiency was strong with an efficiency ratio of 50% this quarter. Maintaining a strong efficiency ratio is a key focus as our VPS project work winds down and we complete our direct loan servicing transition. At the beginning of the pandemic, the decline in interest rates and higher loan loss provisions negatively impacted our capital ratios. Our strong earnings through the pandemic and significantly better than anticipated credit performance to date have seen our capital ratios return to their targeted levels of 6% or more. We continue to prioritize our allocation of capital beyond our capital targets to growing our student lending and VPS opportunities, maintaining our dividend, and returning excess capital to investors. As such, we purchased 26.9 million shares this year or 14% of shares outstanding. In a significant development, this quarter we announced an agreement to transfer our servicing contract with the Department of Education to Maximus. This transfer is now complete with the receipt of novation by the department last week. For a period of time, we will provide transition services to Maximus. This transfer brings to an end the services we provide to the federal direct loan program. We will continue our existing business in the FFELP sector. The road to this point started over a year ago when we declined to accept the next-gen servicing contract award. With this decision, it became clear that direct loan servicing was unlikely to be part of our future with only the effective date to be determined. Given our strong desire to facilitate an orderly transition, we began to explore solutions that would deliver a smooth transfer for borrowers and the 800 employees who supported this contract. This summer we identified a potential solution to work with Maximus, one of the providers under the next-gen servicing contract. We approached the department with a constructive proposal that would deliver a smooth transition for borrowers, provide a new home for our 800 employees, and provide the department with needed servicing capacity. All parties worked collaboratively to ensure a strong solution. We are very proud of our long track record of successfully assisting borrowers in repaying their student loans. We've been the leader in income-driven repayment plan enrollment, and we have consistently led with the lowest default rates. We're also pleased to see that many of our recommendations are now being implemented. This contract, however, generates only 6% of our revenue and was unlikely to grow in the future. It also significantly complicated our investment story, given its heightened political and regulatory position. While it is difficult to say goodbye to 800 of my colleagues, I believe we found the best solution for them and for the 5.6 million borrowers we serve. This transfer will simplify our story and allow our full attention to center on growing our Consumer Lending and Business Processing Segments, creating increased value for our investors. This has been a busy and productive quarter at Navient. We continue to deliver strong earnings with capital generation while building our loan origination and business processing opportunities. Our decision to transfer our direct loan servicing contract better positions our company to focus on our meaningful growth opportunities while simplifying and de-risking our investment story. These accomplishments are the results of the hard work of a dedicated team focused on creating value for our customers and clients and for our investors. I'm looking forward to a strong finish to 2021 and continuing to deliver on our potential in 2022 and beyond. I'll now ask Joe to provide more details on the quarter and I look forward to taking your questions later in the call.

Thank you, Jack, and thank you to everyone on today's call for your interest in Navient. During my prepared remarks, I will review the third quarter results for 2021. I'll be referencing the earnings call presentation, which can be found on the company's website in the Investors section. Our third-quarter results compared to our original outlook for 2021 is provided on Slide 4. Through the first nine months, we've exceeded all of our original targets, and we are well-positioned for the remainder of the year. As a result of the strong performance and updated outlook, we are increasing our adjusted core earnings per share guidance to at least $4.50, an increase of over 40% compared to our original guidance. Our outlook excludes regulatory and restructuring costs, reflects the current interest rate environment, includes year-to-date debt repurchases, and assumes the utilization of the remaining share repurchase authority of $150 million. Key highlights from the quarter beginning on Slide 5 include GAAP EPS of $1.04 and adjusted core EPS of $0.92, originated $1.6 billion of private education loans, including $153 million of new in-school loans, achieved BPS EBITDA margin of 31% in the quarter, reduced our total unsecured debt outstanding by 9%, and returned $176 million to shareholders in the form of repurchases and dividends. Moving to segment reporting, beginning with Federal Education Loans on Slide 6. Net interest margin increased 1 basis point from the prior year to 104 basis points. Net interest income declined 6%, despite a decline in the portfolio of 9%. This portfolio continues to benefit from the current interest rate environment and ongoing improvement in funding costs. Total delinquency rates declined to 8.5% from 9.3% a year ago, while charge-offs remain stable at historically low levels. Other revenue remained flat at $61 million compared to the second quarter and was down $26 million from a year-ago, primarily related to the impact of COVID-19 on certain collection activities. I'll provide additional information on the transfer of our Department of Education servicing contract on Slide 7. Earlier this month, we received all necessary approvals to transfer the Department of Education servicing contract to Maximus. During the quarter, this contract contributed $34 million of revenue on 5.6 million accounts serviced compared to $36 million of revenue on the same number of accounts a year ago. The expenses associated with the servicing platform for this contract, including the 800 dedicated employees that currently service the contract, and re-staffing efforts in anticipation of the expiration of the CARES Act will all be transferred to Maximus by year-end. For 2022, we anticipate incurring certain ongoing expenses for the contract in conjunction with a transition services agreement for which we will receive offsetting revenue payments. As we manage the transition, we anticipate the impact from the transfer of this contract to result in less than $0.10 in earnings per share for 2022. We will work aggressively to minimize this impact through additional expense reductions. As we look to 2022 and beyond, this transfer allows us to simplify and de-risk the investor story and increase focus on our growing Consumer Lending and BPS businesses. Now let's turn to Slide 8 and our Consumer Lending segment. The total portfolio grew modestly from the second quarter. It was down 6% from a year-ago as a result of the $1.6 billion in loan sales that occurred earlier this year. The net interest margin of 298 basis points is above our guided range. It is 26 basis points lower than the year-ago quarter, largely driven by a shift toward our high-quality private refi product within our Consumer Lending portfolio, which now accounts for 46% of total loans in the segment compared to 37% a year ago. In the quarter, we originated $1.6 billion of total private education loans, which includes $153 million of in-school private education loans. And these loans were made through our banking partner entirely to students attending not-for-profit institutions this fall, and 73% were first-time borrowers for us. Our private education refinance loan originations of $1.5 billion in the quarter mean we expect to exceed our year-end target of at least $5.5 billion in total volume. We anticipate that the end of the CARES Act that is currently scheduled to occur on January 31st will provide an opportunity for additional refinance volume, as borrowers who've been paying 0% interest for nearly two years will see loans return to their original terms and will look to refinance to lower rates. Credit trends continue to exceed our expectations. And while economic conditions continue to improve, our allowance reflects the uncertainty related to the potential negative impact to the portfolio from the end of various payment relief and stimulus benefits that recently occurred or are currently forecasted to end in January 2022. The $22 million provision in the quarter was primarily related to the $1.6 billion of newly originated private education loans. As borrowers continue to transition to repayment, we feel confident that we are adequately reserved given the well-seasoned and high credit quality of our portfolio. Continue to Slide 9 to review our Business Processing segment. The $32 million increase in revenue from the prior year as we leveraged our technology-enabled platform to provide a broader scope of work is largely due to contracts supporting states in their efforts to provide unemployment benefits, contact tracing and vaccine administration, as well as an increase in revenue from our traditional Business Processing services. Compared to the second quarter, the revenue from our traditional Business Processing services, as we continue to win new and expand on existing contracts, partially offset the decline in revenue from the pandemic-related contracts, which was expected. As we have discussed before, we anticipate the pandemic-related contract expirations will continue to wind down and decrease revenues in the BPS segment by 20% from the third quarter to the fourth quarter. As our growth businesses contribute a larger proportion to our overall revenue and expenses, we achieved an overall efficiency ratio for the company of 50% in the quarter, outperforming our original target of 52% set at the beginning of the year. Let's turn to our financing and capital allocation activity that is highlighted on Slide 10. During the quarter, we reduced our existing unsecured debt footprint by 9% or $757 million, resulting in a repurchase loss of $20 million or $0.09 per share. This debt was set to expire in January of 2022. Over the last 12 months, we've reduced our total unsecured debt by $2.1 billion. We have no existing maturities for the remainder of 2021 and have reduced our total unsecured debt due in 2022 to $900 million. During the quarter, we issued $2 billion of term-funded private education refinance loan ABS. We have seen increased investor demand for these transactions, as we received over $500 million of orders from first-time investors in our program leading to improved spreads. These transactions demonstrate our ability to reduce our cost of funds as we manage the growth of our high-quality private education loan portfolio, and the amortization of our government-guaranteed FFELP portfolio. During the quarter, we repurchased 7 million shares at an average price of $21.42 all while improving our ATE ratio to 6.4%. We expect to execute the remaining $150 million of authority over the remainder of the year. Let's turn to GAAP results on Slide 11. We recorded third quarter GAAP net income of $173 million or $1.04 per share compared with net income of $207 million or $1.07 per share in the third quarter of 2020. In summary, team Navient's ability to meet the challenges and needs of our customers led to strong results across all business lines, allowing us to raise our guidance for the remainder of the year to at least $4.50. I would like to thank all of team Navient for delivering another strong quarter and recognize the 800 employees who have provided best-in-class solutions for Department of Education borrowers over the past 12 years. Thank you for your time. And I will now open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you, sir. We have our first question from the line of Sanjay Sakhrani from KBW. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning and congratulations on the servicing portfolio sale. Joe, maybe you could just extrapolate out a little bit. I know we've asked this question before in previous quarters, but when we think about the new guidance range, how much of that EPS is coming from better NIM versus portfolio? And maybe think about the sustainability of that NIM going forward. And then, if we were to think about that $4.50 on a go-forward basis, what's the run rate of earnings, if you take out some of the exogenous impacts this year? Thanks.

Sure. So on the various NIM components; I think we've done a great job in terms of executing from a financing perspective of maintaining these higher levels NIM, specifically on the FFELP portfolio. So at the FFELP portfolio, it's very fairly predictable. We've been providing cash flows for the last 10 plus years. So we have a good sense of where we believe, certainly those cash flows are going to come in over the next 20 plus years here. And so from a FFELP NIM perspective, you can feel pretty confident that it's going to be within the range that we suggested at the beginning of the year, that mid to high 90s. We have been exceeding that throughout this year. And so far year-to-date, we're at that high end of the range. On the private portfolio, I'd say it's more about a mixed component. As we originate more and more of our newly originated refi loans, those come in at a lower NIM than our legacy or our new in-school loans. So our guidance at the beginning of the year of 2.70% to 2.80% while we're closer to 3% for this year. I would imagine that as that mix shifts, that will continue to trend lower towards that 2.70%, 2.80% range as we think about this year and then beyond it's just really be a function of mix. And then I think on the BPS segment, we've done a tremendous job of continuing to expand on existing contracts, as well as win some new contracts. So while we're not prepared to give guidance for the full-year of 2022, as it relates to the pandemic-related contracts, I feel pretty good about where that success has been. And you had mentioned about just items that I think about for the run rate for next year, I would just point to the loan sales that contributed close to $191 million, or at this point about $0.87 year-to-date. So I think that's one of the things that you would not anticipate repeating. Although we'll continue, we've look to be opportunistic for potential loan sales here, that would not be in any future run rate. And I don't believe it's incorporated in any one EPS forecast for 2022 at this point.

Speaker 4

Wonderful. And then, Jack, maybe you could just talk about the in-school channel. I know you guys saw a nice bump in the originations. Maybe you could just talk about how things went from the lessons learned, given some of the lack of the performance last year. And then how you look towards next year and in terms of being able to build upon this? Thanks.

Yes, thanks, Sanjay. I think the in-school volume is one that builds; that whole program builds upon itself each year as you gain customers and the opportunity for serialization. But also, as you gain kind of positioning with the financial aid offices and an acknowledgement that this is an entity that is here and is committed to the space. All of that takes some time. Clearly last year in the pandemic environment, we've had fewer students enrolled, many staying at home and therefore not incurring room and board-related expenses in schools providing significantly more financial aid. You saw a decrease in demand for education and finance products, and so it slowed momentum down, frankly. We were pleased to see that bounce that we received this year. I think that's really a function of that how we try to differentiate our product and the features of our products to schools and to our potential customers. And so we saw a much, much stronger acknowledgement of that value proposition, and you see it in the results. We're not; I wouldn't say we are satisfied with where we are. Our goal is to grow that volume in very significant ways each academic year, and so just as we're wrapping up the last academic peak season, we're very busy at planning out what we're going to do for next year to expand upon our success this year as well.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Vincent Caintic from Stephens. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning. I appreciate the opportunity to ask a question. I would like to follow up on the net interest margin discussion and consider the longer-term implications. In a rising interest rate environment, could you remind us how your segments are affected? Is it generally positive or negative, and what factors should we consider in this context? Thank you.

Yes, I think certainly we're benefiting from the current interest rate environment today, and when you look at the floor income, and that's a function of just where those rates reset. As we look at 2022 and 2023 and beyond, our floor income nearly 70% of that income is hedged for next year. And I would point you to the near-term rates. So while we certainly look at the shape of the curve, what we've seen from one-month LIBOR is that continues to remain low, and we continue to see that benefit here. One of the things that we've recently done in the quarter is with our most recent FFELP securitization $600 million of that billion dollar deal was set at fixed rates. So to the extent that you start to see those rates rise, it's a natural hedge. And we would benefit from the fact that it's a fixed cost of funds on that side. So we're certainly looking at 2022 and beyond, and what it means for a rising interest rate environment, but for 2022, 2023 from a floor perspective, we're ahead of that in terms of our hedges that are in place.

Speaker 5

Okay, thank you for that. And then another kind of follow-up, but on the student loan sales, so appreciate that it's not in any guidance that would be given for 2022. But maybe if you could describe your appetite for more student loan sales and how the environment looks like as well. Thank you.

I think you've seen some competitors talk about recent loan sales and you're still seeing elevated levels. It's something that we look at. For us, the amount of unencumbered private education legacy loans is less than $2 billion at this point. And we have facilities and avenues of ways that we can raise cash against that quickly. But certainly from a long-term perspective, we don't believe in the make and sell model. But to the extent, there are opportunities out there, we will explore them as we did this year and we've done in 2019 as well as over the past decade.

Operator

Thank you. The next one we have Mark DeVries from Barclays. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Can you give us some color on the contracts you added this quarter in the BPS segment, how long you expect those for? And also any updated thoughts on how we should think about normalized BPS revenue as some of these COVID-related revenues follow it?

Yes. The largest contracts we added were primarily related to pandemic-driven project work. We assisted states with processing unemployment insurance claims, special unemployment programs, vaccine information networks, and contact tracing efforts. While we anticipate some of this work to extend into 2022, the majority, particularly linked to unemployment, is expected to wind down by the end of this year. We are leveraging the experience and value delivered to identify new, long-term opportunities. Many states will revert to a more conventional process of issuing formal RFPs and undergoing the selection process. During the pandemic, the rapid increase in demand led many states to bypass this traditional route, allowing us to deploy hundreds of people quickly to address urgent needs and establish platforms and solutions. A positive takeaway from our clients has been their recognition that we offered more than just immediate staffing; we provided valuable insights, analysis, and productivity levels that outperformed what they experienced elsewhere. This positions us well for future success in this area, although development may take longer. Conversely, our traditional BPS segments, such as work with hospitals and toll authorities, faced challenges during the pandemic, resulting in a decline in revenues due to significantly decreased transactional activity. As that activity has been recovering, we are beginning to see revenue growth in 2021. Currently, we are near fully recovered rates, and we anticipate that growth to reach double-digit levels in 2022 and beyond.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. I think you also mentioned you do expect an uptick in demand for the refi product next year as the federal loans go back into repayment. Could you help size that for us? What do you think the impact could be on demand? And how much could those originations increase on a year-over-year basis?

Historically, the largest share of dollar volume we were refinancing came from borrowers with federal student debt, primarily related to graduate balances. We noticed that customers with high income were aiming to significantly lower their interest rates and pay off their loans faster. When the CARES Act set interest rates to zero, it became challenging to compete, leading many customers to keep their debt at that 0% rate. Most of our refinancing was associated with borrowers who had certain federal loans not eligible for the 0% rate or private student loans, which presents a substantial opportunity. Looking at the outstanding debt, the majority is from the direct loan program, so we anticipate a significant increase in demand next year. We haven't provided a forecast for that yet, but we will do so in January during our fourth-quarter earnings call.

Speaker 6

Okay. So no color you're willing to provide on just how much you think you could see demand increase?

Other than I would say we expect it to be meaningful.

Operator

Thank you. The next one we have is from the line of Lee Cooperman from Omega Family. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Thank you. My question really relates to capital allocation. I've been on these calls for a long time. I think we started our repurchase program when the stock was in the low 30s. And we were embarrassed to see it trade down to about $8 million. We stayed with the repurchase activity; we're now back to $20 million. When you look at the trade-off between returning money via dividends or repurchase with the stock at the current price, how do you see those two alternatives?

Thank you, Lee. I appreciate your long-term investment and belief in us. We still see opportunities ahead. At this point, we do not have plans to increase our dividend, as we believe it is set at a suitable level and offers an attractive yield compared to the market, even at current stock prices. While our stock price is significantly higher than the lows you mentioned, it still trades at a discount to the overall market. We see value in returning a substantial portion of our excess capital through share repurchases, especially as our legacy portfolio amortizes. We will update investors in January regarding our share repurchase expectations and plans for 2022.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Moshe Orenbuch from Credit Suisse. Please proceed.

Speaker 8

Great, thanks. Jack, could you talk a little bit about how you would see the competitive environment in 2022, when the moratorium is lifted, given that some of your big competitors have been down perhaps 40% in originations during the pandemic from pre-pandemic levels, again kind of relate that to the increase of potential for increase in volume?

Yes, we anticipate the marketplace to remain quite competitive, similar to previous periods of lower demand. We've focused on differentiating our product, particularly through the unique feature that allows customers to set their payment terms. This flexibility can result in unconventional loan term lengths that fit their payment schedules better, leading to quicker repayment times. Our digital-first strategy enhances our connection with customers more effectively than traditional methods like direct mail, and it does so at a lower cost for customer acquisition. On the operational front, we manage the origination and servicing of loans in-house, avoiding third-party reliance, which boosts our efficiency and effectiveness. This is evident in our default rates, which are approximately half of the competition's in the refinancing asset-backed securities segment. We believe that this combination of features and operational advantages positions us well in the market. In the second quarter, we emerged as the largest originator of refinancing loans in the country, indicating our growth outpacing competitors. We expect to sustain this momentum into next year.

Speaker 8

Got you. Okay. Given kind of two kind of competing factors from the standpoint of buyback likely in 2022, one would be faster expected loan growth, given what we've just described. But on the other hand, you've also kind of built a higher capital level. So maybe could you just talk a little bit about how you see those two factors interacting?

Sure. Ideally, we would have such high loan demand that we would be fully utilizing all available capital, which would be our primary use of any capital we have. However, we are in a distinct situation where our business is generating a significant amount of excess capital due to the large legacy portfolio on our balance sheet, which is amortizing and decreasing. As this portfolio shrinks and produces earnings, it releases capital and generates more than we consider necessary for our loan origination activities. Consequently, it is inefficient for us to hold onto that excess capital without utilizing it, so we are returning it to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Currently, we believe our dividend is set at an appropriate level, and we prefer to return the remaining balance through share repurchases.

Operator

Thank you. The next one we have is Arren Cyganovich from Citi. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Thanks. You mentioned that the private school refinance loans actually included some private loans or that were refinanced. Were these graduate school loans or are you refinancing more undergrad loans now?

We are doing both. Our largest customer base is still coming from the graduate side because they tend to have larger balances, resulting in a stronger financial benefit from refinancing. However, we also see an opportunity to engage with both undergraduates and their parents who have borrowed in the private loan sector to refinance their loans. This approach is based on the understanding that when making an in-school loan, there are two risks to consider: the risk of graduation, meaning will the student complete their degree and benefit from their investment, and the second risk is whether their income will be sufficient to manage the repayment. In the refinance space, we already know the answers to these questions. This knowledge, combined with the borrower’s repayment history and our insights into payment performance built over 40 years in the program, allows us to offer borrowers a lower interest rate that saves them money and reduces the burden of their student debt.

Speaker 9

Okay. That's interesting. My main concern would be regarding undergraduates. The unique aspect of this product for graduate students is that they typically have higher earnings, while undergraduates usually do not earn as much when they graduate. There is a limited margin to absorb any significant credit losses in the future. Are you underwriting those differently than the graduate school loan?

Our underwriting criteria focuses on two key aspects: first, the demonstration of repayment experience, with customers usually having repaid for four to six years before refinancing with us. They are evaluated based on their excess cash flow, which is the amount of cash they have beyond their expenses. Sometimes, we consider a parent as the borrower for refinancing rather than just the student. We don't see higher credit risks when underwriting a refinance loan for an undergraduate compared to someone with a graduate degree; it's about analyzing the combined credit profiles. We utilize our 40 years of experience to assess how borrowers with these characteristics perform across different economic conditions. If we examine our legacy portfolio, we find that while we historically didn't underwrite loans specifically for this customer base, when we look at borrowers who meet this profile, the delinquency and default rates align closely with our projections for the refinance market as a whole.

Operator

Thank you. The next one we have from the line of Rick Shane from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for answering my questions. Most of them have already been addressed. I would like to discuss more about the servicing innovation. Are there any realized gains or losses we should consider? Will there be any earnout related to a long-term revenue stream that we need to be aware of, or any severance-related expenses we should take into account?

The costs related to the 800 employees transitioning to Maximus and the re-staffing efforts as we prepare for the end of the CARES Act will be reflected in a significant portion of our expenses for this fourth quarter. As mentioned earlier, these costs will be balanced by revenues as per the TSA agreement. We expect some of these expenses to continue into next year, offset by revenue. This has been factored into our overall EPS impact, which is projected to be less than $0.10. To put that into perspective, this means we are aiming to reduce our operating expenses by at least over $100 million, giving a clear indication of our expectations for 2022.

Speaker 10

Got it. From a novation perspective, it's just shifting the revenues and expenses, but there are no gains or anything beyond that.

Nothing material now.

Operator

Thank you. The next one we have the line of Bill Ryan from Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Speaker 11

Good morning, and thanks for taking my questions. Just a couple of things, just one to follow-up on the Business Processing segment, you gave a pretty detailed number going into Q4 of what your expectations are as far as revenues. And then it sounds like maybe a little bit more wind down, I'm kind of wondering what you're thinking, the baseline revenue number might be in next year, at which point you might start to roll-off of that number. And then secondly, just on the in-school originations, on prior discussions I've had with you, you've talked about the loss expectations, I believe around 6%, a little bit lower than some of what your peers are doing. And I just kind of curious as to your product positioning and who you're targeting that might lead to a little bit lower loss expectations versus your peers? Thanks.

Sorry, on the loss expectations our life of loan loss expectations are 6%. And the reason we look at that is keep in mind, these are going entirely to not-for-profit institutions. So when you compare that to our peers, they have a mix of for-profit, as well as schools that are not traditional four-year institutions.

I would also add Bill; we are underwriting and trying to provide more financial awareness of different repayment options that are available to borrowers. And by doing that we're encouraging and seeing a higher percentage of borrowers select repayment plans where they're making payments during the in-school period, and that's one that does a couple of things. One, it keeps the loan balance from growing, right. And so the debt burden is not increasing during that timeframe. But two it's also demonstrating a strong commitment that the cosigner is there to assist not in more than just name; they're actually adding financial resources to it. And so we would expect the combination of those factors to be super important. And again, I would just point out, having been in this industry for so long, we have a very unique insight into borrowers through this 40 years of experience, and we're able to use that to really target our underwriting or craft our underwriting criteria to those borrowers that are most likely to be successful in this space. No one benefits by making a loan to someone who's not going to be able to repay it. So we're very, very focused on the higher quality segments of the marketplace as Joe indicated.

Regarding your first question about the BPS outlook, we are not providing guidance for 2022 yet. However, from the third quarter to the fourth quarter, we expect to see a decline of 20% in total BPS revenue based on contracts that are set to end this quarter. Looking at previous quarters, we have experienced successful increases in BPS, mainly due to pandemic-related contracts. Those contracts continue to be extended and have transitioned to other businesses with states. We are very pleased with our performance so far, which has exceeded our forecasts and expectations. At this time, it's still too early to predict what the first and second quarters will look like, but we do anticipate a 20% decline from the third to the fourth quarter.

Operator

Thank you. The next one we have is Henry Coffey from Wedbush. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. In which quarter does the entire servicing business essentially reach zero? How quickly does that process take place? When I refer to zero, I'm asking when the compensating revenue and offsetting costs disappear, leaving just a closed door.

So in our guidance, we are anticipating that that ends by the end of 2022.

Speaker 12

Okay. And then just a much more abstract question. You're building up this really solid refinance business, which obviously will come back to life as we get into a more normal environment, that's a very interesting customer. SoFi has done a pretty good job. We haven't seen anyone really do a good job of converting in-school borrowers into multi-product customers. But it seems SoFi has done a pretty good job of converting that refinance borrower into a multi-product customer head. Do you have any long-term thoughts on what the real value of that refinance might be? And what that customer might look like? And what else you might be able to do with the customer? Or is that still kind of an open question?

I believe you're absolutely right about the opportunities here. This is a very appealing customer characterized by a high income, relative youth, and a substantial potential for increased earnings. Additionally, we find the net promoter scores from customers in this area to be extremely valuable, as we are alleviating what they perceive as a burden—making payments on something they've already consumed. Our net promoter scores typically range in the high 70s to low 80s. We see this as an opportunity to market other products or services to this customer base over time. Our approach may differ slightly, as we intend to collaborate with partners rather than going it alone, mainly because we are looking for earnings from these activities. We definitely see this as an opportunity as this customer base grows, while ensuring we maintain our focus on originating high-quality volume.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back over to Mr. Nathan Rutledge.

Nathan Rutledge Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Lawrence. We'd like to thank everyone for joining us on today's call. Please contact me if you have any other questions. This concludes today's call.

Operator

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