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From the 8-K filed Aug 10, 2026.
| Metric | Period | Guided | Basis |
|---|---|---|---|
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Free cash flow
fiscal 2026
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$300M | Non-GAAP | |
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Total Net Service Revenue (NSR)
fiscal 2026
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$7.3B – $7.35B | Non-GAAP | |
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Adjusted effective tax rate
fiscal 2026
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19% | Non-GAAP | |
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Total Net Service Revenue (NSR) excluding Construction Managemen
fiscal 2026
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$7.65B – $7.7B | Non-GAAP | |
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Segment adjusted operating margin excluding Construction Managem
fiscal 2026
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17% | Non-GAAP | |
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Adjusted EBITDA margin excluding Construction Management charge
fiscal 2026
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17.4% | Non-GAAP | |
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Adjusted EBITDA excluding Construction Management charge
fiscal 2026
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$1.28B – $1.31B | Non-GAAP | |
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Adjusted EPS growth (CAGR) excluding Construction Management cha
fiscal 2026 to fiscal 2029
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at least 15% | Non-GAAP | |
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GAAP EPS guidance
table
Fiscal Year End 2026
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$2.37 – $2.87 | GAAP | |
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Adjusted net income attributable to AECOM from continuing operat
table
Fiscal Year End 2026
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$514M – $539M | Non-GAAP | |
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GAAP net income from continuing operations guidance
table
Fiscal Year End 2026
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$354M – $419M | GAAP | |
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Adjusted EBITDA guidance
table
Fiscal Year End 2026
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$935M – $965M | Non-GAAP | |
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GAAP interest expense guidance
table
Fiscal Year End 2026
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$190M | GAAP | |
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Adjusted interest expense guidance, net
table
Fiscal Year End 2026
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$140M | Non-GAAP | |
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GAAP income tax expense guidance
table
Fiscal Year End 2026
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$73M – $88M | GAAP | |
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Adjusted income tax expense guidance
table
Fiscal Year End 2026
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$121M – $126M | Non-GAAP |
Stated verbally and extracted from the transcript.
| Metric | Period | Guided | Basis |
|---|---|---|---|
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Free cash flow
Initiated
full 2026 fiscal year
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$300M | — | |
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Restructuring costs
Initiated
fiscal 26
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$150M – $200M | — |
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Hello everyone. Thank you for joining us and welcome to ACOM's third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Will Gabrielski, Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. You may begin.
Thank you, operator. I would like to direct your attention to the safe harbor statement on page one of today's presentation. Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements about future business and financial expectations. Actual results may differ significantly from those projected in today's forward-looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties, including the risks described in our periodic reports filed with the SEC. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update our forward-looking statements. We use certain non-GAAP financial measures in our presentation the appropriate GAAP reconciliations are incorporated into our materials which are posted to our website growth rates are presented on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted any references to segment margins or segment adjusted operating margins will reflect the performance for the Americas and international segments when discussing revenue and revenue growth we will refer to net service revenue or NSR which is defined as revenue excluding pass-through revenue NSR growth rates are presented on a constant currency basis, unless otherwise noted. Today's remarks will focus on continuing operations. On today's call, Troy Rudd, our Chief Executive Officer, will review key developments and accomplishments this quarter, as well as our outlook for the business. Laura Poloni, our President, will discuss key trends across our markets. And Gaurav Kapoor, our Chief Financial and Operations Officer, will review our financial performance and outlook in greater detail. We will conclude with a question and answer session. With that, I will turn the call over to Troy. Troy?
Thank you, Will, and thank you all for joining us today. We had many accomplishments in the quarter, and I am proud of our teams and the positive impact we are having on our clients' critical infrastructure investments. But before getting into the details of our results, I'd like to address the $337 million pre-tax charge included in the quarter. The charge is primarily the result of a delay in delivering a large construction management project due to several factors, the largest of which is overall productivity of subcontractors on the last phase of this project. We had expected this project to be substantially completed in the first quarter of fiscal 2027, and now expect this near the end of the second quarter of fiscal 2027. In addition to the financial impacts in this period, we are pursuing sizable claims for this project, and our confidence in recovery has been validated by our success in the dispute resolution process to date. We expect resolution of the remaining claims will take some time, and this will continue to burden our cash flow through the first half of 2027. We are disappointed with this outcome, but I want to add some context. this project was bid in 2019 since that time we have changed leadership and tightened our risk controls we decided many years ago to no longer pursue design build work for p3 clients in the construction management business due to the inherent challenges this structure can present as a result this project would not clear our risk hurdles today i also want to provide an update on the second design build p3 project in construction management which was bid around the same time We are progressing towards the planned substantial completion date of Phase 1 in the first quarter of fiscal 2027, and this remains consistent with our previous forecast. The second CM project also has a significant claim position to pursue recoveries due to delays not caused by us. Finally, notwithstanding these two projects, the construction management business has produced strong cash flow and high returns on capital consistently over time. Based on the composition of our backlog and pipeline today, I expect this trend will continue. Now turning to the details of our results. Our teams are winning work at a record rate. Our backlog increased 13% to a new all-time high on record quarterly wins and a 1.6 book-to-burn across the business, including 1.8 times in the Americas. Year-to-date, our book-to-burn is 1.4 times, providing extraordinary long-term visibility. Adjusted for one last working day in the quarter, NSR in the design business increased by 5%. This was led by 6% growth in the America's design business, as well as a return to growth in the international business, which increased 4%, led by the UK and Australia. Even so, overall NSR growth in the quarter was below our expectations. The primary drivers are slower than anticipated new project starts in the construction management business and the continued impact from the conflict in the Middle East, which we see continuing through the fourth quarter. While both businesses have fallen short of our expectations in the second half of fiscal 2026, they have strong backlogs and are well positioned for return to growth in 2027. Excluding the financial impacts of the construction management project charge, Adjusted EBITDA and EPS improved year-over-year by 5% and 11%, benefiting from the return to NSR growth, which resulted in margin expansion in the international segment. We also delivered positive free cash flow of $55 million, despite the hand-wind from the construction management projects mentioned earlier, demonstrating the strength of our historically consistent free cash flow conversion. Turning to financial guidance. Our updated financial guidance captures three main changes from last quarter. The impacts of the construction management project charge, lower than expected NSR growth, and continued margin outperformance. As a result, we now expect full-year NSR of approximately $7.3 billion and adjusted EBITDA and EPS of $950 million and $4.05 cents respectively at the midpoint of the ranges. Adjusted for the charge and to help with comparability, we now expect full-year NSR of $7.65 to $7.7 billion and adjusted EBITDA and EPS consistent with our prior guidance at $1.29 million and $6 at the midpoints. This includes a raised expectation for adjusted EBITDA margin to 17.4% versus the 17% previously. We also expect to deliver free cash flow of $300 million for the full 2026 fiscal year. With that, I will turn our call over to Laura.
Thanks, Troy. The strength of our technical expertise and the success we are having in the market are a testament to our teams and the investments we are making to extend our advantages. There are many marquee wins this quarter, but there are two in particular I want to highlight. Included within our record backlog, we won two of our largest re-competes ever. Both are in the environment business, one public and one private, and despite the industry's vast amount of consolidation, our leadership position persists. And more importantly, our scope across these projects has expanded significantly. As I look across our markets, there are several additional positive developments that give us optimism. Starting with the US, our state and local clients continue to prioritise infrastructure and water investment. In recent months, several of our largest state clients have announced major multi-year infrastructure plans focused on highways, bridges, transit, and rail, all areas where we have the number one ranked practice. Additionally, growth opportunities are robust in our U.S. water business where our pipeline expanded by 30%. On the U.S. federal front, rapidly growing investment in national defence remains a key theme and our pipeline with the department of war our largest single client increased by approximately 30 percent in the quarter congress continues to advance fiscal 2027 defense budget legislation and we expect healthy growth in the key areas we support this includes significantly increased facilities work where we are a leading provider to the army and navy additionally congress is progressing the next five years surface transportation authorization the house's initial 580 billion dollar proposal includes key funding for all key areas to which we are exposed and gives us further conviction in the continued bipartisan commitment to infrastructure investment it is worth noting that unlike past reauthorization cycles today's funding environment is incredibly healthy less than half of the iaja funding in our core markets has been spent which adds to our visibility and confidence u.s private sector investment is also accelerating this is particularly true in data centres, which remains one of our fastest growing businesses and where we have been expanding our hyperscaler relationships. In Canada, activity has been very strong and broad-based across all market sectors, driving continued double-digit NSR growth. Notably, after the quarter, we won a 10-year program management role for a highway and bus transit project that represents one of our largest wins in Canada to date. Additionally, and underscoring the trend of increased global defence spending, Canadian defence spending reached its highest level in recent years, and the government has committed to more than doubling that share to 5% of GDP by 2035. In step with this, our pipeline is up significantly, tied to the government's efforts to upgrade military bases across its Arctic and northern regions. Turning to the international segment, in the UK, NSR growth accelerated to high single digits with ongoing strength in water, environment, and energy. Work on the Great Grid Upgrade project is progressing well and was a key contributor to growth this quarter. As a reminder, this is one of the most significant electricity infrastructure programs in UK history. AMP 8 is also accelerating with additional workloads and more opportunities from large frameworks coming through. Even so, while transportation continues to lag, growth is benefiting from our diverse positioning. In Australia, growth accelerated in the quarter, up double digits, and our backlog reached a new multi-year high, up more than 40% year-over-year. Along with continued defence infrastructure wins during the quarter, transportation activity is accelerating, which bodes well for 2027 and beyond. In the Middle East, the ongoing military conflict continues to create near-term uncertainty, specifically in the end markets exposed to tourism and hospitality. Nonetheless, winds remained strong, driven by the infrastructure demand, allowing us to deliver double-digit growth in backlog during the quarter. Further, after the quarter, we were awarded a large rail project in Saudi Arabia, which better positions us in expanding rail market there. And there is likely to be a significant amount of work needed to repair, fortify and expand US military infrastructure in the region, which presents another long-term growth opportunity for us. Asia remains soft, but backlog grew double digits year over year driven by a large northern metropolis highway win, which is the first major transportation project tied to this initiative and a top priority development for the Hong Kong government. This positions us well, including on further opportunities as this mega project continues to advance. To conclude, I am extremely proud of the dedication of our professionals and their unmatched technical expertise that drive our business performance. With that, I'll turn the call over to Gar.
Thanks, Laura. I want to start by highlighting several strengths that underpin our convictions in our strategy, the investments we are making to scale our strengths, and the long-term value of the First, winning. Our 1.6x book-to-burn and 13% backlog growth are tremendous accomplishments for a business that expanded. we've spoken for several quarters about the value we are delivering to clients through our differentiated offering advisory program management and early ai wins are transforming client interactions and with it our ability to bring unrivaled solutions not only are we winning more with existing clients opportunities are now emerging in new markets where our scale and technology are opening new avenues for growth second margins the return to growth in international delivering on our continuing improvement promise and early benefits from ai across our cost base are apparent while performance was masked this quarter by the construction management project underlying profitability demonstrates the opportunity ahead as we advance towards our 20% margin exit target for FY28. Finally, our balance sheet and cash flow. We built a resilient balance sheet with no maturities for several years and cost certainty on the majority of our debt. We ended the third quarter with $2 billion of undrawing borrowing capacity, and we've delivered positive free cash flow in the fiscal year-to-date period despite cash burn on the two construction management projects referenced earlier. We expect continued cash burn on these projects through the first half of fiscal 2027. Turning to our segment. In the Americas, NSR declined 29%, primarily reflecting the construction management charge. The design business increased 6% when adjusted for one less working day in the period. Beyond the project-related revenue impacts in construction management, NSR lagged our expectations as new construction management wins ramp up slower than we expected. Nonetheless, backlog in the design and construction management businesses continue to be strong and growing high single digits, while the design pipeline has also grown over 20% for three straight quarters. America's adjusted operating margin was negative 16.1%. Excluding the construction management impact, the margin was 18%, which reflects a few key items. The first factor was slower than anticipated startup of several construction management wins, which affected utilization of resources. Second, we had record business development activities in the period that impacted America's margin by approximately 140 basis points. Large pursuits in particular consume a lot of time and resources, but provide a high ROI as evidenced by the segment 1.8X book to burn we delivered in the quarter. It should be noted that in quarterly periods in prior years, we have experienced similar impact to segment margins due to elevated business development spend, and consistent with those years, we will continue to deliver on the quarterly and annual enterprise margin targets. Accordingly, we expect America's margins to normalize in the next quarter. Turning to international, NSR increased 4%. Australia and the UK in particular are driving better growth. Our backlog continues to be strong, up 28% versus prior year. The international adjusted operating margin was 14.3%, reflecting much better growth in Australia, which is a higher margin market, better margins in the UK from higher utilization, and the initial benefits we're realizing from our proprietary AI strategy while continuing to invest consistent with our earlier guidance. Turning to financial impacts of construction management projects, NSR and EBITDA were impacted by $337 million. EPS was impacted by $1.99. Cash flow included $185 million use. Because of this expected use and higher average debt balances, we expect our interest expense to be higher in 2027. We are currently estimating 30 to 35 million of year-on-year impact. With respect to capital allocation, our returns-based discipline remains intact. There are no impacts to any ongoing or planned organic growth investments. With that, let's turn to Q&A. Operator?
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Sabahat Khan with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Thanks, and good morning. And I appreciate the colors sort of you shared on the charges. I think sort of between Troy and Gar, I think you guys outlined the projects are on the way to getting completed. Maybe if you can just detail out, looks like about $100 million drawdown in the previous free cash guide for this year, and you mentioned more cash to sort of finish these. maybe if you can just detail out sort of the timeline from here um to complete these projects and any metrics that you can maybe share around the cost to sort of complete these sort of through late this year and into next year thanks very much sure i get it thank you saaba so um just in terms of the timeline the two projects you're referring to to be clear um with our construction management business there are two p3 design builds they're the only ones that exist in that business And the first project, which we did take the charge on during the quarter, we now expect
to be complete in the second quarter of fiscal 27. And the second project, which we also went through the same forecasting process, and there's no change to its delivery date, that will be in the first quarter of fiscal 27. In terms of cash, the impact in the fourth quarter resulted in our overall free cash moving from $400 million for the full year down to $300 million for the full year. And as we go into 27, we actually see this having a significant cash impact for the first two quarters of fiscal 27, and the overall impact will be about a half a billion dollars.
Great. And then maybe just on the sort of the base business guide, maybe if you can just detail out, I think you mentioned some delays sort of in getting some projects going, maybe you can detail out the base business sort of guidance revision and what's impacted there and just sort of between this and the the first item just any early thoughts you can share on how maybe how fiscal 27 is shaping up maybe on the base business um with and without these projects thanks yeah sure let me um let me let me sort of cover this at a high level and then for some of the detail i'll pass it over i'll pass it over to gar um first of all with respect to sort of the the base business which is our design business and of course our construction
management business we've actually had a very a very good year in terms of winning work and building visibility into the future so if we said in our results that our book to burn for the quarter was 1.6 times and that was across the entire business and year to date that's 1.4 times um and so that does give us good visibility and within that backlog we've focused on very large awards and programs and so they actually extend and provide us good visibility for multi-years as we look forward uh maybe the best way to describe it is you know we have confidence because of that visibility in our long-term growth algorithm which we said is organic growth for the business between five and eight percent. And so maybe that's the best way to sort of think about the entire business moving forward. And I'll pass it over to Gar to give you some of the detail.
In terms of the base business, echo Troy's point, the base business continues to be very healthy, excluding the project charges we reported. And that is evidenced by if you exclude the project charge, there's no change in our earnings metrics. EPS and EBIT A for the year, we continue to expect to deliver what we had raised our guidance to previous quarter. When we look at from an NSR standpoint, looking forward, there is an impact on NSR that is coming from our CM business and our international business compared to plan. And specifically, what we mean by that is we had expected our CM business to contract because there were large projects, as we've talked about in previous quarters, in prior year that were coming down, Our backlog was building up, but there is a cadence when large projects drop off and new projects come online. There's a little time lag coming through. For one of those projects, specifically a convention center in Texas, that has been delayed for a few months. That impacted us in the current quarter for the CM business and will impact us in the next quarter as well. But as importantly, as you can imagine, a lot of our resources in that business are right now focused on delivering these two projects. So that's taking them away from the normal backlog that exists, which is quite healthy, including 1.9 book to burn in the current quarter. Moving to the design business, America's design continues to be strong. Year to date, almost 7% organic growth adjusted for work days. We expect that to continue into Q4 at that healthy run rate. And when you step back and look at the backlog that we have and the visibility, it continues to provide that tailwind, including a very strong and healthy pipeline in our America's business that will continue to capture and monetize. On the international side, in the Middle East, where it has gotten better compared to the second quarter, one of the things that has become very clear to us is hospitality, tourism, any developer-related end markets. Those are very tough right now for obvious reasons. But at the same time, the wins we've had over the last nine months in Middle East are very focused on transportation, infrastructure, and rail. So that portends really well for us in FY27 going forward. Some of the other guidance impacts that we've already shared in our release comments include interest expense will be impacted due to the cash burn on the terminal projects, as Troy highlighted, and share count will also be impacted because our focus is going to be on delivering these projects as we move forward. And we're still in the early phases of the overall planning for FY27, and I think that's about the right color we have as of this point in time.
Great. I think I could just squeeze in a quick one, I guess, just sort of on the earlier question around the projects and the cadence to wrap these up. Assuming you've done some level of sensitivity analysis on getting these done, just maybe if you can share the level of confidence in getting these projects that have caused the charges wrapped up in the next fiscal year and sort of your sensitivity analysis around sort of the timeline. Thanks, and I'll put for it.
Yeah, sure. So let me let me start with the first project and where we took the charge. Again, that project is in the phase where I'm going to call the the physical completion of the building is is on track to our original deadline. Really what's impacting this is it's it's basically systems, testing, integration and commissioning work is what's drawing that out and so as we look at completing that project at this point in time we have re-forecasted and uh and based on the last six weeks of work we do have that project being a little bit ahead of the schedule that we as had anticipated so think about that as 20 percent of the completion and we forecasted it out based on the existing production rates that we had been experiencing in a few months prior to that so that does give us confidence and of course in that schedule we've also build some slack into that so in terms of you describe our you know our our scenario planning we're comfortable that we've included the reasonable scenarios in that timeline to complete in the second quarter on the other project again we have reforecast that and it has held the difference in that project is it is further along effectively two months from completion and so we're through the almost at the physical completion of the the work and the systems testing has been going underway and so we forecast it out based on our historical subcontractor productivity rates so again on both of those at this point in time um we uh we have a degree of confidence in delivering within those time frames.
Thanks very much.
Thank you, Salah.
Your next question comes from the line of Andy Kaplowitz with Citi. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Good morning, everyone.
Good morning, Andy.
To regard, margin was down, as you know, year-over-year in the Americas in Q3X to CM charge, which you said was a result of the higher BD costs and timing of CM, yet you raised your overall margin forecast for 26. Obviously, it looks like you raised your forecast because of the strong international margin, but how should we think about America's margin moving forward? I think you mentioned America's margin will normalize in Q4, Gar. Does that mean up year over year, and do we still expect to see a bigger increase in margin FY27?
Hey, Andy Visgar, I'll take that question. So, you're right. The margin costs in the current quarter were impacted by business development efforts. Every few years, we seem to have this quarter where large pursuits seem to converge. If you would recall, we kind of experienced that similar type of trend in FY22 as well and in FY24 as well. And similar to those trends, our full expectation is we'll have the normal cadence of margin consistent with what we have delivered, including the great tailwind we're seeing on all the efforts so absolutely america's margin you should expect it to normalize and be a little bit better than consistent a little bit better than last year and the international margins have been a a very good story in the current quarter and i expect those to continue in q4 as well and that international margins is a large step up due to a few key factors one is the international business has now pivoted to growth that's consistent with you know the backlog that we had been winning in that business over the last four quarters and our biggest growth market was australia australia also is our biggest margin business our second biggest margin business in international segment is uk so combined with those efforts and you put forward you know the technology efficiency tools that we've been rolling out across the globe that are a great multiplier while at the same time investing consistent with our plan. It's driven really healthy margins, and that also gives us a lot of confidence that the margins will continue to grow consistent with the expectations we had laid out where we will be exiting FY28 at 20 plus percent, 20 plus.
Self-agar. And then, Troy, maybe you can give us more color into how or what changes you've made or will make to construction management to make sure that what you're facing now doesn't happen again. And then you talked about the double-digit backlog growth in CM and the record pipeline, but you also mentioned the delays you're seeing. So do you think CM can grow in line with your algorithm, that 5% to 8% next year in 27, or could it be a drag?
Yeah. Well, let me take those in reverse order. First of all, with respect to CM, When I referred to the 5% to 8% growth algorithm, I'm referring to the entire business, which includes construction management. If we were to look at that separately, I would say that the growth in construction management will come in the second half of next year, not in the first half of next year. And, again, that gets to, as you build backlog in that business, it does take a while for that business or that backlog to ramp up. And it usually takes 12 to 18 months.
So the things that we're seeing that impact the business this year in terms of awards and wins, we will start to see that next year. and then the other thing will happen is you know as we complete these projects in the second quarter and we will have people that will be also available to be redeployed onto these other projects as they ramp up and andy the other part of your question related to the cm changes you know the first project where we've taken the charge this was bid in december of 2018. the second project troy highlighted earlier which is on schedule as we had previously communicated that was bid in march 2020 and since that time over the last five and a half to six years call it we have not only revised our risk matrices changed leadership in that business simply put these type of projects will never even qualify to be approved in in our current structure commercial structure what uh we're willing to do for our clients we just outside of these uh projects we don't have any design build p3 in our portfolio in our cm business it just doesn't exist so that's something we just have to deliver um in the current projected timeline helpful guys thank you thanks any your next question comes from the line of andrew whitman
with baird your line is open please go ahead um thanks guys i just i wanted to just get i guess and accounting on kind of where the claims stand here. So I think in the 10Q last quarter, we don't have it for this quarter yet, but it was 6.50. So where does it stand at the end of the quarter? And then, Gar, is it kind of the way of thinking about it by the time you're done here with, I guess you talked about the fourth quarter cash burn and $500 million cash. Do we just tack, like, do we be thinking the total claim is like whatever it is here at the quarter plus 500 and change to get the total size of the claim. Is that the right way of thinking about it? And if you could just talk about how you're going to approach that and try to recover as much of that as you can. I know you said it's going to take a while. It's obviously a complicated project, but any detail, I think that would be helpful.
No, absolutely, Andy. In terms of claims, if you baseline to prior quarter, you shouldn't expect a material change in the current quarter. It'll be within that $600 million range. And also by the time these projects are both completed in the timeline Troy articulated earlier, there's not going to be a material change. It'll be somewhere in that $600 to $650 million just based on percentage of completion because these projects are not complete at very high percentages. In terms of the second part of your question as to how we will go about it, As you can imagine, we're going to keep that quite confidential because we want to be very tactical. There have been significant scope changes that we've had to fund the working capital That working capital is far in excess of the claims on our books. So we believe we've been very prudent in reviewing all different aspects of the claims from operational, financial, legal rights and responsibilities, obligations to put a number that we feel pretty confident in recovering. And it is what we have for these two projects is a fraction of the total amounts that we're claiming against third parties.
The next thing I wanted to ask about was your planned kind of restructuring here for fiscal 26. I think earlier in the year, and I guess your guidance reiterated today that you're expecting $150 to $200 million of restructuring costs. You've only had 54 booked here for the first three quarters. And so I was just wondering if that guidance range still holds or how the rest of the year unfolds on that. And is this one of the reasons why the fourth quarter margin is getting some focus here today by being up a lot sequentially and maybe year over year?
Sure. Andy, in terms of our overall guidance, there is no change, as you've noted. And there's no change in our strategy as well. If you recall, what's really underlying driving it is how we approach our clients, how we operate internally to create value for our clients. And the demand adoption for that change has been very high. And we're very thoughtful about how we go about change management impacts internally and making sure our clients are seeing the value proposition. Some of this we're seeing in our backlog growth, not only in the current quarter, but like we said, you go year to date, you go trailing 12 months, our backlog growth has been very strong, which provides us a lot of good, strong visibility into the long term for our growth algorithm to be supported. So we're going to continue to be very, very thoughtful in how we roll out and deliver that value for our clients, how we revise our processes. And so nothing has changed from that standpoint. In terms of the margin impact, the margin impact is going to be very consistent with some of the previous restructuring programs we've taken. We review it and underwrite everything, implement everything, depending on the ROI. It has to clear our ROI hurdles and it has to be sustainable. So the margin impact that you will see coming through for the restructuring are not really reflected in Q4 because that's when most of the restructuring will take place. It really will be going forward as we have pivoted as an organization to how we approach differentiated offerings in the marketplace to our clients. All right. Thank you very much.
Thanks, Andy.
Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Fisher with UBS. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Good morning. I wonder if you could give us a sense of the timing of when those extra business development costs could translate into bookings and revenues, and what's the competitive environment looking like for these large pursuits at the moment?
I'll have Laura take that question.
The competitive environment remains consistent, but we've got a lot of confidence, particularly based on the tremendous amount of work that we've been winning and the growing pipeline of opportunities ahead of us. And those win rates, particularly for our most substantial projects in excess of $50 million, we're maintaining a healthy win rate there with those. And this quarter in particular, what was most pleasing were the record wins over $4 billion included a couple of marquee wins in the environment business that we mentioned in our earlier remarks. so in particular the federal program which was a recompete which gives us a lot of visibility and confidence over multiple years and also a significant private client environment winner as well just to give a bit more color on that steve they were bid and won against the usual competitor set and the other thing that stood out was we weren't in a joint venture for any of those we won those in our own right and the competitive landscape included several multi-header sort of
combinations from some of our peers but i'll hand over to guard to sort of provide some additional color on that yeah steve uh thank you for that question and noticing the the great book to burn you know similar to to your question i guess the answer is roi is immediate as you saw in the quarter we invested that the margins the incremental bd time and we will do we continue to do it every chance we get because the bd on it is is immediate 1.8 percent for our america's design business, 1.9 for our RCM business, and 1.4 in the quarter for our international business. In terms of contracting and revenue flow through, the good news is these are with high quality clients of ours that we have a longstanding history. And the revenue stream has been very consistent, solid, irregardless of what the political gyrations may be. So it gives us a lot of confidence in that long-term algorithm, even more visibility with these longstanding wings that we have. And on top of that, another data point we've shared with the analyst and investor community on our ROI or cadence is looking at our ECP, which our win rates continue to be at 80% plus, including the results from a book to burn and backlog growth we've posted in the current quarter.
That's helpful. And then we'd love to get a sense of the outlook for the international growth from here or maybe how to model it? I mean, should we be assuming some acceleration from here or is the mid-single digits kind of a steady pace? And if you could, as long as we're talking about modeling things, just fourth quarter on the America's design. I thought I heard you say, Garz, that you thought we could continue something like a 7% adjusted for days.
Is that what you have embedded in the model for the fourth quarter there?
Thank you.
Steve, I'll start and then I'll hand to Gar just in terms of the overall color in terms of the outlook. Starting with international, the design business, as we noted earlier, it's got a healthy book to burn of 1.8 times. And the outlook is broad in terms of the the healthy pipeline and the win rate across all of the key dimensions of the business we mentioned environment there's a very strong federal outlook tied to the defense sector our data center work and outlook continues to be very strong and fast-growing and then when we look to the other parts of the business as we as Troy noted the international outlook is strong we've seen that rebound the ANZ business returning to double-digit revenue growth the backlogs up more than 40 percent year on year um uk and and europe obviously we have long-term visibility and and work continuing on projects like great grid upgrade we're seeing now some real momentum in our wins and outlook associated with the amp 8 program we've got some good wins and visibility in the advisory business which is growing in line with expectations um and even and even in the middle east as we said there's a strong infrastructure outlook and we are winning at that more than 80% capture rate on the most significant elements of that pipeline. But Gar will touch on some of the more detail.
Yeah, I'll take the Q4 first. You're right, Steve. You heard me on design for Americas. We do expect 7% adjusted for work days, 7% plus in Q4. And specific to looking at FY27, as Troy has already discussed, we think our long-term growth algorithm will continue to hold for the overall business as to the different pieces of it, international versus other segments. Right now, we're in the throes of early on, the throes of our planning process, so we'll provide more details next time around.
Thank you very much. Thanks, Steve.
Your next question comes from the line of Sangeeta Jain with KeyBank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Thank you for taking my question. So if I can go back to the NSR growth algorithm, I appreciate the discussion on fiscal 27, but I kind of just want to understand the long-term growth algorithms. I think during the endless day, the target excluded construction management from this equation. So I just want to know on an apples-to-apples basis, if we do keep CM in the model the whole time, How should we think about that revenue algorithm?
Yeah, Sangeeta, I would think about it as applying to the entire business. I think we, again, not revisiting what we said in our investor day last year, where we sit today, the entire business, including construction management, we capture that in our growth algorithm and our long-term guidance of 5% to 8%.
Got it. Thank you. And then on free cash flow and uses of free cash flow, once the cash outflow on the legacy PM projects conclude, with leverage having picked up a little bit, I just want to understand how you're thinking about the use of free cash flow between, let's say, deleveraging and buyback.
I would think about it this way is, first of all, as we said, we're always going to be focused on what's the highest returning opportunity. And for us, that is organic growth. So we will continue to invest at the same pace in organic growth. We obviously are going to continue to return capital to shareholders, certainly through the dividend. And as we move forward and we get past the second quarter of next year, I think that you'll see our leverage ratio on a net and gross basis return to a very low number. And we would then, I think, be back to returning capital to shareholders, certainly at our stock price where it is today.
Appreciate that. thank you.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. I guess two questions. One, I appreciate the color that you guys have given on 2027 so early on, but just like on the organic growth of 5% to 8%, you know, I know you said CM will grow in that, like at that rate in the second half of 2027 but i'm just wondering as we think about 2027 do these problem projects the ramp of the cm business like does that weigh on the first half 2027 organic growth so maybe we return to or you know normalized organic growth of 5t in the second half of the year versus the first half and then i guess troy you know separate question for you understanding the problems are you know related to to two projects but you know cm was up for strategic review you know just six
months ago um just have you scrubbed the other cm uh projects that you have within your backlog um and like why is this a good business to be in thank you sure um so first of all if you think about 27 it's a little premature for us to sort of give guidance for the year but i think that your comment is fair um is that if we see cm contributing to growth in the second half of the year that you would see a ramp up in growth during the course of the year I will say that again remembering that construction that that business in terms of representation of NSR represents about six or seven percent of the NSR of the business in a given year so again I think that it's premature for us to give guidance but I would suggest that's the way to sort of think about it for models in terms of the construction management business the answer is yes we obviously They have scrubbed the backlog in the pipeline to make sure that we make the statement that, you know, these are the two projects that have this profile, the design built for P3. The rest of that backlog in that business is of a very different risk profile. Think about it as predominantly a for-fee or, as we see, a guaranteed max price backlog. And as we move forward, again, we made changes many years ago to the projects we take on in that business. And so I think that is already culturally ingrained in the business in terms of what we accept. So we feel rather good about that business going forward. And if you take out those two projects and you look at the margins and the return that we see in that construction management work in the past, it is very high returning ROI. And it has margins that are consistent with the margins of our entire America's business. So we do view that construction management business as having a healthy backlog and a healthy pipeline and a very high return on investment profile absent these two projects as we put them behind us.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jamie.
Your next question comes from the line of Adam Boubez with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. Just as we think about the $500 million of costs in 2027 related to the two projects that you outlined, how much of those costs do you have visibility on being reimbursed for? I guess specifically what I'm asking is are you pursuing revenue on the costs or the actual costs as well? And just maybe help us a little bit with the accounting on those projects from here. I think those costs flow through with zero margin. So should we expect a margin headwind? next year from construction management? What's sort of the net revenue associated with those projects?
Hey, Adam, this is Gar. I'll take that question. In terms of the margin impact, you're right, especially the one that we've taken the project hit on. It comes with no margin at all. The second project, it has very little margin related to it. Not by any measure, I would even forget material, I wouldn't even call it significant. And when you look at our go forward NSR related to these two projects, the cash is not consistent with the NSR to be booked. There's very little NSR remaining on these projects. Just to put it into context, in our construction management business, when you look at the total project value, our share or NSR is generally less than 5%. And we're on both of the projects more than 80 to 85% complete as we sit right now. So there's very little NSR that's related to them.
What's really impacting it is the focus we have on completing these projects and putting it behind us is taking up a lot of resources and tying them up that normally would be used on other projects and backlog that exists that and maybe i just so think about this as for the accounting as a result of recording the impairment in the quarter that is the impact that we expect on the financial statements through the delivery of the process those projects um and think about that differently at cash flow because as a result of impairing that project um we still have to fund the delivery of those projects through the next three quarters, and the $500 million relates to the first two quarters of fiscal 27. So, the financial statements reflect the impact of those projects to their completion, and then the cash flow is just what we're going to need to spend to fund those through completion.
Great. Okay. I appreciate all the color there. And then you've talked about some of the risk evaluation changes and leadership changes in construction management, the absence of design-build projects, P3 projects, beyond these two. But can you just help us understand exactly how your bidding procedures and risk controls work at another layer of detail in construction management? I'm just trying to understand what level of risk you still underwrite in the portfolio today.
Sure. Agar will take that. Yeah, predominantly in that portfolio, we take on what's called GMP, guaranteed max price commercial terms. And the big difference on this is when we go enter into a contract for the first 12 to 18 months, we work on a T&M agency basis with the client, with the developer to ensure their designs are essentially complete, 70 to 95% complete. All the sub costs have been forecasted out, scheduled out, subbed out in conjunction support with the client. And once all that risk has flowed out of the design, the build out, construction documents are complete, at that point, we enter into the GMP commercial terms. And the biggest difference is not only we have the client and us, we have flowed the risk down to the subcontractors and other parties that perform the construction work. Our risk is generally limited to our fee on those jobs.
So I'll just add two points to that. One is if you sort of think about the work that we take on in that business, it is a similar risk profile as to the rest of our design business, the way it sits today. And in terms of the decision making, we changed that years ago so that effectively material projects in that business, they come through a process of review, a very detailed review to make decisions on whether to bid them or not. And as part of that process, we have a prohibition on taking on any design build for P3, and that was put in place many years ago.
Great. Thanks so much. Thank you.
A reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. Your next question comes from the line of Michael Dudas with Vertical Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Good morning, gentlemen, Laura. Morning, Michael. Troy, maybe you can characterize the new business growth over the first three quarters, I guess 29%, 30%. Can you characterize on existing versus new clients, scope expansion versus new projects? What areas benefited you or what you saw the most activity on? And Gar mentioned in his prepared remarks about new avenues, new markets. Are there some areas that some of the investment organically is going to be placed to drive added growth in either existing or different areas of your practice?
Yeah, sure. So, first of all, in terms of the work that we've won across the business in the first three quarters of the year, and, of course, in this third quarter, it has been distributed across the entire business. We have been successful in all of our major markets. But I will highlight that in the Americas, you know, we were particularly successful. The other thing that I think we've been acknowledging is that we have been pursuing and for years been pursuing very large programs and projects, because frankly, that's a place where we think we're very well suited to differentiate ourselves because of the depth and breadth of the experience that we have and the global teams that we bring to those projects. And so our win rates are very high on those on those programs. You know, again, Gar referred to that. Then our win rate has been on those programs for a while, over 80 percent. And that also brings very good visibility to long term, long term growth to the business. In terms of Gar's comments on, you know, kind of new markets and new activity, what we are finding is a number of investments that we have been making and change the way that we deliver outcomes for our customers. It is actually opening up new markets for us, which we had not previously had a strong or dominant position. And so those investments are giving us the opportunity to have very different conversations with new customers and groups of customers that we haven't had in the past, which is also very encouraging as we look forward.
What type of new customers or what type of areas?
We're looking at, really, I'll call it in the buildings and buildings and places market within our business and within program management. And so it's enabling us to move into more commercial markets, more hospital health care markets, and into data centers in a more robust way.
Excellent. Thanks, Troy. Okay. Thanks, Mike.
There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Troy Rudd for closing remarks.
Again, thank you everybody for joining us today. And again, I want to thank our employees and our folks here at ACOM for their diligence in delivering projects and infrastructure for their customers. Thank you.
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