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AirJoule Technologies Corp. Q3 FY2025 Earnings Call

AirJoule Technologies Corp. (AIRJ)

Earnings Call FY2025 Q3 Call date: 2025-11-13 Concluded

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Greetings. Welcome to the AirJoule Technologies Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. Please note, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to your host, Tom Divine, Vice President of Investor Relations and Finance. Thank you. You may begin.

Tom Divine Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, and good morning. With me today for our third quarter earnings call are Matt Jore, Chief Executive Officer; Pat Eilers, Executive Chairman; Bryan Barton, Chief Commercialization Officer; and Stephen Pang, Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we'll be referring to a presentation, which is available on the webcast platform and on the Investors section of our website. I would like to point out that many of the comments made during the prepared remarks and during the Q&A section are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could affect our actual results and plans. Many of these risks are beyond our control and are discussed in more detail in the Risk Factors and the forward-looking statements sections of our filings with the SEC. Although we believe the expectations expressed are based on reasonable assumptions, they are not guarantees of future performance, and actual results or developments may differ materially. And now I'll turn it over to Matt Jore.

Thanks, Tom, and thanks, everyone, for dialing in this morning. Before I turn it over to Pat, who's going to review some of our recent milestones and Bryan, who will discuss our ongoing productization activities and customer engagements, I'd like to talk about some of the powerful macro trends that are fundamentally reshaping global water and energy markets. These converging forces are creating significant demand for the exact solutions that our AirJoule platform technology is designed to deliver. And AirJoule is well positioned to play a meaningful role in this transformation. The explosive growth of artificial intelligence is driving massive data center development across North America and globally. What's becoming increasingly clear and creating urgent challenges for hyperscalers and data center operators is that AI infrastructure has an enormous water and energy footprint. Modern data centers require millions of gallons of water annually for their cooling systems. And as AI workloads intensify, these requirements are escalating dramatically, especially in arid environments. Data centers are facing constraints relating to the availability of water in the quantity and quality that they require. This has some real operational impacts. Additionally, we're seeing mounting concern from some local communities over data center water consumption. In regions already experiencing water stress, data center developers often face having to truck in water at significantly higher expense in order to satisfy water requirements for data center operations and expansion. Some projects even face permitting delays and even outright opposition from local stakeholders. And there's growing recognition across the industry that water security isn't just an operational concern. It's becoming a fundamental constraint on AI infrastructure development. This was reinforced by AirJoule's selection as a winner of the Net Zero Innovation Hub for Data Centers technology competition, which validated AirJoule as a critical solution for sustainable data center operations. We also saw the recent launch of the Water-AI Nexus Center of Excellence led in part by Amazon and the Water Center at the University of Pennsylvania that explicitly acknowledges the intersection of AI infrastructure growth and water resource challenges. And beyond data centers, the CHIPS Act and other industrial policy initiatives are incentivizing billions of dollars in domestic manufacturing investment including batteries, semiconductors, and advanced electronics. These facilities have two critical requirements: substantial high-purity water for manufacturing and precise humidity control for product quality and yield. Traditional approaches rely on municipal water infrastructure and energy-intensive dehumidification. AirJoule's platform addresses both requirements simultaneously, dehumidification with high-purity water generation, positioning us in a multibillion dollar opportunity as domestic manufacturing scales. Underlying these trends is the fundamental challenge of water scarcity. Population growth and changing environmental conditions are exacerbating water stress across the United States and globally. The Western U.S., in particular, is facing severe and persistent drought conditions that are constraining development, agriculture, and industrial activity. Water scarcity is not just an environmental issue; it's an economic development constraint. Communities wanting to attract data centers, manufacturing or residential development face constraints on water availability. Traditional approaches, deeper wells, pipelines, water transport are expensive, environmentally problematic, and even politically contentious. And the military is increasingly focused on water resilience. Bases in water-stressed regions face operational constraints and forward-deployed troops require reliable water supplies where traditional logistics are challenging. Our collaborations with the ERDC and across the defense sector for anticorrosion reflect recognition that AirJoule addresses critical national security challenges. At the same time, rising electricity costs are driving renewed focus on energy efficiency. Industrial facilities, commercial buildings, and data centers face intense pressure to reduce energy consumption, both for economic reasons and to meet corporate sustainability commitments. Traditional HVAC and water management systems are energy-intensive, representing significant operational expenses and environmental footprints. AirJoule's platform technology is designed to deliver step-change improvements in energy efficiency. By leveraging waste heat to produce water from air and utilizing advanced sorption materials for dehumidification, we can reduce energy consumption by up to 50% compared to traditional refrigerant-based systems. In an environment where every kilowatt hour matters for both cost and sustainability, this efficiency advantage is increasingly valuable to customers. And lastly, we're benefiting from significant regulatory tailwinds. Governments globally are mandating the phaseout of high global warming potential refrigerants as part of climate mitigation efforts. The American Innovation and Manufacturing Act and similar regulations worldwide are forcing HVAC and indoor air quality companies to fundamentally rethink their technologies. Traditional dehumidifiers, air conditioners, and cooling systems rely heavily on these refrigerants; and these refrigerants are being phased out or face escalating costs and regulatory restrictions. This is creating urgent demand for alternative technologies that can deliver comparable or even superior performance. AirJoule's sorption-based platform can unlock a refrigerant-free system, positioning us as a solution to this regulatory transition. This is why we partnered with Carrier to integrate AirJoule technology into their next-generation HVAC systems. What makes this moment particularly compelling is that these trends are not isolated. They're converging and they're reinforcing each other. AirJoule's platform sits at the intersection of all these pressures, providing solutions that address multiple needs for industrial, commercial, defense, and data center customers. This is why we're seeing accelerating interest from diverse industries, why prestigious partners like GE Vernova and Carrier are collaborating with us, and why defense organizations are engaging on multiple AirJoule applications. The market is recognizing that AirJoule is a transformational platform for a water and energy-constrained world. Now I'd like to turn it over to Pat Eilers to discuss some of our recent milestones towards our path to commercialization.

Thanks, Matt. During the third quarter, we achieved several milestones that represent critical validation of our technology, demonstrate strong market demand across multiple sectors, and are advancing us toward multi-system deployments and commercialization in 2026. Our Hubbard, Texas deployment is operating 24 hours a day, 7 days a week across diverse environmental conditions, generating critical performance data. This isn't laboratory testing; it's real-world operation with full variability. The data we're collecting is helping us optimize system design, validate our performance and water quality expectations, and demonstrate to customers that our technology works reliably in demanding environments. This track record is increasingly important as we advance commercial discussions with customers who need confidence in consistent and reliable operation. During the quarter, AirJoule was selected as a winner of the technology competition sponsored by the Net Zero Innovation Hub for data centers, which is a consortium founded by Google, Microsoft, DATA4, Vertiv, Schneider Electric, and Danfoss. These are some of the most influential companies in global data center infrastructure, and this prestigious recognition validates our technology as a critical solution for sustainable data center operations. We look forward to collaborating with these partners on sustainable data center design and showcasing our AirJoule system at the Innovation Hub's test bed facility in Europe this coming year. At the end of October, we delivered an AirJoule system to Arizona State University's Global Center for Water Technology led by Dr. Paul Westerhoff. This is one of the leading research institutions in the field of atmospheric water harvesting. This collaboration with ASU will generate rigorous independent research data on AirJoule's performance and potential applications. Dr. Westerhoff also plans to demonstrate our AirJoule system for industrial customers and operations in the Southwest United States. We also announced a cooperative research and development agreement known as ACRADA with the United States Army Engineer Research and Development Center to integrate AirJoule's waste heat to water capability for military applications. The military has rigorous requirements for reliability and performance in extreme environments. The fact that the ERDC has committed to AirJoule for this program demonstrates confidence that our platform can meet these exacting standards. Beyond the immediate research program, this partnership positions AirJoule for broader adoption across wider military applications. On our last earnings call, we mentioned a collaboration with the United States Defense contractor to evaluate AirJoule's technology for anticorrosion applications in high-value military storage environments. I'm pleased to say that those discussions have come to fruition, and we now have an agreement in place with that defense contractor. Under the agreement, we'll work together to establish a deployment project at a military storage facility and demonstrate how AirJoule provides dehumidification capabilities and substantial cost savings to the American taxpayer. This represents a significant expansion of our opportunities beyond water generation across military applications globally. These milestones provide the operational track record and customer validation needed to advance commercial deployments in 2026. Now I'll turn it over to Bryan to discuss our ongoing customer conversations and productization activities.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Pat. The milestones and partnerships that Pat and Matt discussed are translating directly into commercial opportunities as companies realize the value we can bring by delivering distilled water and compelling economics. Our water generation system is fundamentally unlike anything else on the market in that it produces clean distilled water with no contaminants. A critical differentiator driving these conversations is water quality. AirJoule delivers distilled quality water with zero dissolved solids, meeting EPA and FDA bottled water standards. Our assortment-based process natively features three purification steps, and our hovered system is consistently demonstrating excellent water quality. This is important because our technology works best for customers lacking reliable sources of clean pure water, and that's exactly who we're targeting. For many industrial customers in water-stressed areas, municipal water sources may not be reliable or have the desired quality, and trucking water—a $50 billion market—is often the only viable option. We're actively engaged in discussions with customers to lock in additional deployments in 2026. And the breadth of this commercial pipeline demonstrates how the AirJoule platform can deliver across multiple industry verticals, including data centers, advanced manufacturing, and the military. We look forward to providing more specific guidance on deployment timelines as we are able. Through these customer conversations, a compelling business model has emerged with the introduction of water purchase agreements or WPAs. Several of our customers are exploring this structure as an alternative to traditional capital equipment purchases. Under a WPA, customers purchase water on a volumetric basis, dollars per gallon rather than purchasing the capital equipment. AirJoule owns, operates, and maintains the systems and customers pay for the water delivered. This is directly analogous to a power purchase agreement that has driven massive value in the power sector. For customers, WPAs eliminate upfront capital requirements and align economics with performance. They only pay for water actually delivered, and WPAs can improve project economics by converting capital expenditures to operating expenses. For AirJoule, WPAs create recurring revenue streams and can accelerate customer adoption. We're actively discussing WPA structures with several customers, and we believe this could become a significant component of our commercial strategy. Before I move to our productization efforts, I should mention that we're also making progress in adjacent markets beyond the industrial and commercial applications I've discussed, specifically in the residential dehumidifier market. This is an opportunity that would leverage our sorbent technology for high-volume consumer applications in a multibillion-dollar market. We'll have more details to share on that soon. In preparation for these commercial deployments in 2026, we've been making significant progress on scaling our manufacturing readiness and productization of the AirJoule platform. During the third quarter, we celebrated the ribbon cutting of our manufacturing facility in Newark, Delaware, which is designed to support productization, assembly, quality assurance, and performance validation as we transition from demonstrating systems to commercially viable products. We also expanded our testing infrastructure with an additional environmental test chamber, enabling us to validate system performance across a broader range of conditions and accelerate our product development cycles. Productization is absolutely critical to achieving our commercialization objectives. We have proven technology that works in the field; our current deployments have demonstrated that. We have strong customer interest across multiple sectors. But to convert that interest into revenue, we must deliver systems that are economical and reliable with minimum maintenance costs. To this end, we are focused on three objectives: increasing our water output, reducing our overall system cost, and ensuring reliability. First, maximizing water output from our chambers. We're focused on optimizing our solvent chambers to extract as much water as possible from each cycle. This isn't just about incremental gains; improving water output per chamber directly translates to better economics for our customers and a more competitive positioning for AirJoule. Currently, our sorbent chambers in Hubbard are each producing 100 liters per day at 60% relative humidity. We expect this to increase to 150 liters per day per chamber, and with this 50% improvement, we can expect our 16 chamber A1000 product to deliver more than 2,000 liters of water per day or around 500 gallons. Second, reducing overall system costs. We have extensive design for manufacturing efforts and supply chain activities underway to identify cost-effective components, optimize our bill of material, and establish relationships with suppliers who can support our volume production. Our goal is to ensure competitive economics for our customers while maintaining the performance and reliability standards they require. Third is our focus on ensuring reliability. Our customers, whether they're data centers, industrial facilities, or military installations, need systems that work consistently over extended periods with minimum maintenance costs. We're implementing rigorous quality assurance protocols, stress testing components, and building redundancy into critical systems to ensure that when we deploy these units, they will perform as promised. The productization work we're doing now is directly enabling our 2026 commercialization goals. When we engage with customers about multiunit deployments—whether it's tens to hundreds of units we're discussing at individual data centers and industrial sites or defense deployments—they need confidence that we can deliver reliable, cost-effective systems. As we move through Q4 and into 2026, productization will remain a top priority. Every improvement in water output, every dollar we take out of our system, and every enhancement to reliability directly strengthens our competitive position and accelerates our path to commercialization. Now I'll turn it over to Stephen for the financial update.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Bryan. We can turn to Slide 11 of the presentation for a review of our financial results for the third quarter. As a reminder, AirJoule Technologies accounts for its 50% ownership in the JV using the equity method. These numbers in the table are only reflected for AirJoule Technologies. And the results from the joint venture are reflected in the loss from investment in AirJoule JV line, which was $1.9 million for the third quarter. This is slightly lower than a $2.2 million loss in the first quarter and the $2.1 million loss reflected in the second. AirJoule's net operating expenses during the third quarter were $3.0 million. This is inclusive of approximately $487,000 in administrative and engineering expenses reimbursed to us by the joint venture under our statement of work. Operating expenses were lower in the third quarter, primarily due to professional fees normalizing after our equity-related transactions in the second quarter, along with lower noncash share-based compensation expense. We also amended our licensing agreement with Pacific Northwest National Lab, and as a result, reversed $475,000 worth of accrued royalty expenses, which resulted in negative R&D expenses for the third quarter. Our net loss for the quarter was $4 million compared to net income of $2.5 million for the second quarter. The main driver of this difference is primarily the noncash losses associated with an increase in the fair value of our earn-out liabilities and subject vesting shares, which are both noncash. During the third quarter, AirJoule Technologies contributed $2.75 million of capital to the JV with GE Vernova, which is being used to support the ongoing productization and commercialization activities that Matt and Bryan have touched on. AirJoule Technologies ended the third quarter with approximately $26 million of cash sitting on the balance sheet between the two entities. Subsequent to the quarter end, we also contributed an additional $5 million of capital into the JV. Looking ahead, I'll reaffirm that we have sufficient cash and liquidity to support both our operations and those of the JV. As you've heard on this call, we are focused on prioritizing our AirJoule system and preparing for multiple customer deployments in 2026. We expect the joint venture's full year 2025 spend to be at the higher end of the guidance I previously provided on our prior earnings call of around $17 million to $18 million. Today, as part of our ongoing capital market strategy and following our recent milestone of being a timely filer for over 12 months as a public company, we have filed a shelf registration statement, which remains subject to SEC review. We view this as a prudent step that gives us flexibility and efficiency in accessing the capital markets when the timing is right. For clarity, the S-3 we filed today did not involve the issuance of any new shares. This filing simply ensures we're prepared to be opportunistic and reflects our disciplined approach to maintaining optionality and managing our access to capital. Now I'll pass it back for the Q&A portion of the call.

Operator

Operator Instructions. Our first question is coming from Amit Dayal of H.C. Wainwright.

Speaker 6

I want to clarify a statement from the press release that mentions data from Hubbard is speeding up commercial adoption. How should we interpret this? Are you suggesting there's a potential pipeline, or are there pilots currently underway? Any clarity on this would be appreciated.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Amit. I'll take the question. Yes, so the system in operation is generating immense amounts of data. And through that data and through our partnerships with customers, it's been a real catalyst to see systems operating in the field and performing very well, making clean water. At the same time, in Texas, right, there are a number of hyperscalers that are looking to build operations in Texas. And so when we talk about a lot of the data center interest and then overlaid with the fact that they're building those data centers in the broader Texas area, it's been great for us to have that system on the ground performing well. And to date, many hyperscalers have come through and have seen that system operating.

Speaker 6

Understood. Okay. And then in the last earnings call, you had sort of talked about exploring product integration opportunities with GE Vernova. How is that going? Any progress on that front? Any color on how we should see maybe that contributing to any commercialization efforts in 2026?

Speaker 4

Yes. So just as a reminder, our previous announced collaboration with GE Vernova is to really focus on the waste heat from gas turbines and integration of that waste heat into AirJoule's products. So we can deploy at sites that have perhaps behind-the-meter power generation or just in general, the power generation capabilities of GE Vernova and then connecting to that waste heat. And so that project is in full swing. It's still in the, I would say, forming and paper exercise and really understanding how to integrate AirJoule, right? The next step would be actually integrating AirJoule's. So we can look forward to seeing the progress on like a demonstration type of system. But really, the first part is educating our customers that have these assets, these gas turbines that are generating immense amounts of heat on how to integrate that waste heat directly into AirJoule. And so we can expect that this initiative with GE may first find life in the field through an actual project.

Speaker 6

Understood. Okay. And then the R&D spend was pretty low in 3Q. I mean, if I'm reading it correctly, it was around $8,000 and change. Any reason for such a low spend as you get closer to commercialization? Should we think about it in a way where most of that R&D stuff is now out of the way and you're focusing more on the commercialization part of it? Like just trying to understand why the R&D is at these levels.

Speaker 5

Yes, I'll take that. As I mentioned, most of the R&D spend now is being borne at the joint venture level. So if you take a look at the earnings slide, which is a supplement to our results, you'll see that spend be pretty consistent with what we've incurred in prior quarters. And then the R&D spend directly as it relates to AirJoule Technologies corporate balance sheet reflects a reversal in the maintenance royalty expenses that we've been accruing. Through a restructuring of that agreement, we were able to reverse the maintenance charges. So this quarter reflects that adjustment. But like I said, the R&D at the JV level remains pretty consistent with prior quarters, and we would expect that to continue going forward.

Speaker 6

Okay. I missed that. I appreciate it. Just last one, guys. What's the runway for the AirJoule JV? I know you put in sort of $2.5 million in 3Q. How long will that sustain? And what are your needs on that front going forward?

Speaker 5

Yes. So as I also mentioned in our prepared remarks, we do expect the JV spend for the full year to come in at the higher end of the previously provided range of around $17 million to $18 million. This year, that spend also was inclusive of previously agreed upon statement of work we had with GE Vernova. We're evaluating what that spend will look like for 2026. But I would expect that specific statement of work to likely come in lower from an aggregate spend standpoint for next year. From a go-forward basis, I'll also reiterate that our cash currently is sufficient to support both the corporate expenses as well as the JV spend through commercialization into 2026.

Operator

The next question is coming from Jake Sekelsky of Alliance Global Partners.

Speaker 7

So just starting with the water purchase agreement model, it looks like an interesting avenue for commercialization. Can you just comment on maybe the types of customers that are showing interest here? And would these be AirJoule owned and operated systems under this model?

Speaker 4

Thanks, Jake. Yes, that's accurate. AirJoule would own and operate these systems, and we are engaging with several customers. These operators require clean water at their operation sites but often lack access to affordable municipal water or groundwater. Consequently, their options for water are limited, or the available water does not meet the quality standards necessary for their operations. This is where we're gaining significant traction. In discussions, they express appreciation for our capabilities, recognize the value we offer, and are interested in the AirJoule solution. However, we are still in the early stages of deployment and demonstration, particularly concerning large quantities of water. To build confidence in our ability to deliver economically viable and bankable projects, AirJoule will own and operate these assets and sell the produced water at a fixed price per gallon.

And I may just add, if you don't mind, Jake, this is Pat Eilers real quickly. I would just add that despite us putting up the CapEx for these projects, we're not raising capital at our cost of capital. It's a long-term offtake. We can look through the investment-grade status of the offtake customers that are looking at these WPAs. So it's very accretive.

Yes, this is Matt. I want to add to what Pat and Bryan mentioned; I really like the idea of an asset that generates income over a 15-year period. It makes a lot of sense to me. This is another exciting aspect, especially since, as Bryan pointed out, we have complete control over the operation and the data generated. Thanks for the question.

Operator

The next question is coming from Ryan Pfingst of B. Riley Securities.

Speaker 8

Bryan, you talked about water quality in the prepared remarks. How important is that water purity advantage when you're having commercial discussions with data centers and industrial customers? And can you talk about AirJoule's differentiation a little bit compared to other atmospheric water generation approaches?

Speaker 4

Thank you, Ryan. I'll start with the first part. The quality of water really varies based on the customer type, whether it's a food and beverage business, an industrial client, or a data center operator. Data centers have multiple requirements for water throughout their operations. While we typically associate it with evaporative cooling, if a data center installs a power-generating asset, they might also require demineralized water, or distilled water, which has zero total dissolved solids for applications like gas turbines. Therefore, the demand for clean and distilled water varies significantly across industries and their specific uses. We are well-equipped to meet these varying water needs depending on the customer. Now, can you remind me of the second part?

Speaker 5

Just the differentiation of AirJoule compared to other approaches.

Speaker 4

I appreciate the question. I believe this really boils down to two key aspects. First, there are the overall economics and reliability. Conventional atmospheric water generators function effectively in humid environments, but typically, humidity can vary throughout the day depending on the location. Therefore, we are beginning to evaluate this in terms of seasonal efficiencies. For instance, while a conventional system in Miami might perform adequately, the peak midday sun can result in lower humidity levels. Thus, our focus is on seasonal efficiencies and operational costs over the entire year. When we consider the actual costs per gallon delivered from the asset, it's essential to recognize that the system will be in operation continuously every month. To accurately calculate the levelized cost of water, we need to consider both the cost of the asset and the amount of water produced throughout the year. This is where AirJoule excels because we can produce water efficiently even at around 30% relative humidity, which allows us to access a broad range of environmental conditions. Additionally, I emphasized our capability to generate clean water. When extracting moisture from the air, there may be other substances involved, raising potential biological concerns. Therefore, it is crucial to treat the water to meet good biological and contamination standards. Thanks to AirJoule's method of selectively extracting water vapor and employing a vacuum distillation process, the water we produce is inherently very clean.

Yes. Bryan, this is Matt. Ryan, I'm glad Bryan said that; he's a PhD in chemistry. So I'm glad that he mentioned that last part because this whole system is completely unique in that just as Bryan said, it pulls water vapor out selectively, and only water vapor comes out and is condensed inside our condenser. If you think about what Bryan talked about with the DX systems that are out there, other atmospheric water generators, they do just what conventional air conditioning system. They condense on the outside of an evaporator. So all that stuff that's in the air goes right along with the water. So that's why we have this really unique advantage. So Bryan, thanks for adding that second part.

Speaker 8

Yes, I appreciate all that detail, guys. And then secondly, just curious, how much is the validation work you're doing with ASU and Dr. Westerhoff helping your commercial discussions? And does that project also help anything regarding regulatory approvals?

Speaker 4

Yes. I would say, first and foremost, the effort with Paul is independent validation, not just on how much water is generated per day or how much energy the system consumes, but also on the water quality side. So we'll have Paul's full academic and professional evaluation of those components. And at the same time, he is kind of the center spoke of a large network of folks interested and industries interested in atmospheric water harvesting, and when it makes sense and how it makes sense. So there's really, I think, a mature perspective on when these types of deployments make sense. And Paul is involved in those conversations with interested industries. And so he also serves as kind of an industrial collaborator of sorts when people will come to him and ask how does the system work, and he's a key voice in that conversation. So those are the primary things. On the regulation side or certification side, not really involved. We're heavily pursuing this internally. We have to have certifications of the actual product from multiple perspectives and regulatory bodies. And then for individual deployments, like, for example, the one in Texas, the Texas TCEQ has to go through those validations at a particular location and then be vetted and approved as a public water provider. So it's kind of location dependent in that respect.

Ryan, one thing that was stunning to me that Paul taught us is that in the greater Phoenix area, they consume about 1.2 billion gallons of water a day out of their aquifer and another 1 billion off of groundwater, surface water. And yet every day, 25 billion gallons influx into the Greater Phoenix area in the air. That's how much water is in the atmosphere. That's something that I was stunned to hear Paul talk about. That's one of the reasons they're looking to the air for the water solution.

Speaker 4

It's actually quite obvious in the Phoenix area with the Palo Verde nuclear plant that's putting just an ungodly amount of water into the atmosphere. So you really see it.

Operator

The next question is coming from Sean Milligan of Needham & Company.

Speaker 9

I would like to revisit the WPA model. You provided some insights earlier, and it appears to be an excellent model to pursue for achieving higher returns, while also considering the customer aspect of risk. Could you elaborate on how many discussions you are having regarding this model in terms of its significance within your overall pipeline? Specifically, what percentage does it represent—around 25% or 50%? What’s the frequency of discussions related to the WPA model?

It's an offer that we're making — sorry, Bryan, it's an offer we're making out across the board, Sean. Bryan is going to be happy to talk about specifics here in the coming periods. But Bryan, go ahead.

Speaker 4

Yes, Sean, I would just say that in our conversations over many months, often goes to the risks of deployment and the assured guarantees. And so the WPA model kind of emerged and then we started outreach back to all interested customers. And it's in the many dozens that we've discussed with. And most of the conversations are going very well. There's a lot of positive reception on this business model for launching technology, with us taking on the risk and just delivering against the water needs. And we're in final conversations or I would say, approaching the final discussions with what we will take on in '26 and '27, so stay tuned for kind of that conversation.

Yes, I will add to that Sean. I'll add to that. The thing that we learned in — well, we're learning across the board, but in the New Orleans conference last year talking about data centers, is where we’re going to get all the power from. It’s one of the reasons why power purchase agreements are so compelling. We realize now it’s the same thing with water — where are you going to get all the water to do all these new developments. And so these WPAs are really emulating the PPAs that you're familiar with.

Speaker 9

Yes. Like who are you — I mean, what are you pricing against in the WPA model like other water suppliers, and then just kind of like how your pricing maybe fits against that?

Yes. Great. Go, Bryan.

Speaker 4

Yes. So it's really kind of unique in a situation where a customer needs distilled water, and they don't have access, right? So municipal water is typically quite affordable if it's available. And so we're specifically talking to folks that may have to truck in water and trucking in water can be pretty expensive. It can be $0.50 to $0.75 per gallon. And so that's really the main comparison if you want to deliver clean pure water and certainly cheaper than the cost of trucking in at those price points. Really, as we kind of like take these WPA conversations forward, we're really in a position, I think, unique position that we can only take on so much, right? Like there's a real strategy and logic to, okay, what can we actually deliver against in 2026 for customers that really need this technology and are going to grow the pipeline and the demand signals out into the future. So while we have many conversations ongoing, we're going to be fortunate enough to be selective on who and where and how we deploy the initial WPAs.

Speaker 9

That's great color. And then one last question on the net zero innovation project. Congrats on that. But I was curious in terms of the timing of that and then just sort of — is it a single unit? Or what's the scope of that project? And the timing in terms of like when that starts, how long that runs for, and maybe what like expected outcomes for you all could be off of that project? Because it sounds like it's a chance to kind of highlight the benefit for Vista data centers. You're also doing that concurrently via other discussions. So just kind of curious about how important that project could be in the future for you all.

Speaker 4

Yes. Thanks, Sean. It's actually, I think, a really exciting thing to be recognized as a winner for this net zero innovation hub. This kind of consortium or hub, right, founded from Google, Microsoft, DATA4, Vertiv, Schneider and Danfoss. And so there's amazing visibility to these key players in the industry to the AirJoule technology. The project itself is a kind of a test bed center data center that will be in the Denmark area. AirJoule will deploy into that data center and really showcase how does it take waste heat from data centers in a circular way, right, reuse that waste heat and create clean distilled water for the data center or other operations locally. And so we view it as just a great catalyst for the conversation around circularity with these key data center partners as well as a catalyst for real operational projects globally.

Operator

Operator Instructions. The next question is coming from George Gianarikas of Canaccord Genuity.

Speaker 10

So first question is that looking at 2026, can you help us understand the sequencing? Will you see A250 dehumidification deployments first and then A1000? Or will they launch simultaneously?

Speaker 4

Yes. Thanks, George. You will likely see the A250 product launch before A1000 simply out of the simplicity of a two-chamber system versus a 16-chamber system. Our engineering activities have started. So we're full swing in and the design and build of A1000, but A250 simply is ahead of the race because of it starting earlier. So we'll see that one go into the marketplace. And as a reminder, it as a dehumidifier is the same machine as it is as an atmospheric water generator. And really, it's the process of how it runs that distinguishes whether or not it's a dehumidifier or a water generator or both. In some cases, it's just a few months.

Speaker 10

You've also talked about 2026 as an inflection point for commercialization. Could you possibly define what success looks like by the end of next year?

Speaker 4

Yes, thanks, George. For me, our key focus is firming the demand signals for where AirJoule will be successful and how it will be successful. So generating that and firming that pipeline for deployments in units either through the WPA or units sold. And then the product can deliver compelling economics is the second key milestone for those deployments. And so really, this is quite simple in that we are in those conversations to firm the demand, and then you will see and track the launch of the product and how it's capable of delivering the overall dollars per gallon or dollars per dehumidified air or the savings for those customer opportunities. So those are the key things to look for; we'll be referring against.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Jore for closing comments.

Thank you, everybody, for joining us today. The message I hope you take away from this call is straightforward. We're capitalizing on powerful converging macro trends that are creating significant demand for AirJoule solutions. We're systematically building the foundation for commercialization, validating our technology through real-world deployments, earning recognition from industry leaders, establishing critical defense partners, building a robust commercial pipeline, and advancing productization to deliver cost-effective and reliable systems. The progress we've made this quarter moves us meaningfully closer to our 2026 deployment goals. We have the technology, the partnerships, the manufacturing capabilities and increasingly the customer demand to establish AirJoule as the leader in industrial scale water from air. We're executing our strategy with discipline and focus, and we look forward to updating you on our continued progress in the quarters ahead.

Operator

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