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Earnings call · FY2026 Q3

Carnival Corp Ltd. (CCL) Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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Greetings, and welcome to the Carnival Corporation Q3 2026 Earnings Results. At this time, all participants are in listening-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to introduce your host, Beth Roberts, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you, Beth. Please go ahead.

Beth Roberts Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to our third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. I'm joined today by our CEO, Josh Weinstein, our CFO, David Bernstein, and remotely, our Chair, Mickey Harrison. Before we begin, please note that some of our remarks on this call will be forward-looking. Therefore, I will refer you to today's press release and our filings with the SEC for additional information on factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ from our expectations. We'll be referencing certain non-GAAP financial measures, including yields, cruise costs without fuel, EBITDA, net income, and related statistics for all, which are on a net basis or adjusted as defined, unless otherwise stated. A reconciliation to U.S. GAAP is included in our earnings press release and our investor presentation. References to ticket prices, yields, and cruise costs without fuel are on constant currency, unless we know otherwise. Please visit our corporate website where our earnings, press release, and investor presentation can be found. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Josh.

Thanks, Beth. And good morning, everyone. Once again, we closed out another excellent quarter with revenues, yields, and reported net income all reaching new highs, while customer deposits once again set a record. Strong execution delivered approximately $2 billion to the bottom line. exceeding our guidance by $100 million, with both revenue and costs contributing to the outperformance. On the revenue side, yields increased nearly 2.5%, more than a point better than expected. The improvement in booking trends we highlighted on our last call continued to build throughout the quarter, with better close-in demand translating into higher revenues. That momentum also enabled us to raise our yield expectations for the fourth quarter. And on the cost side, our teams continued to find opportunities to operate more efficiently. Excluding fuel, unit costs came in a point better than guidance for the quarter. And to date, we have improved our full year expectations by more than a point, even after absorbing continued pressure from higher than expected inflation. Fuel consumption also came in three points better than expected, as our teams continue to find ways to use less, which is better for the environment, better for our bottom line, and ultimately the best way to manage fuel costs. Taken together, we've generated more than $150 million of operational improvement since our June guidance, fully offsetting the impact of higher fuel prices that we now expect. Yes, fuel can be a volatile input cost, with a track record of prices going up and down. But amidst that noise, let's not lose sight of our underlying operational improvement. What matters most over the long term is our ability to continually improve the actual performance of the business. Generating more demand, managing our booking curve for maximum revenue, operating more efficiently, and ultimately producing more earnings and higher returns. And while it's still early, we are beginning to capture opportunities embedded in our Propel targets sooner than expected, leveraging our unmatched scale, sharpening commercial execution, investing where we generate outsized returns, and advancing technology to enhance revenue and control costs. This includes putting AI to work across our commercial systems to help our teams make better decisions and provide more personalized experiences for our guests, automating more of how we operate shoreside, and identifying new efficiencies in how we manage our vessels. With 2026 largely on the books, our attention is turning to 2027 and beyond. For full year 2027, we are already half booked with both occupancy and pricing at record levels. Bookings taken over our third quarter solidified this position as we saw very healthy increases compared to last year's levels. And while the booking disruption we experienced this spring extended into the first quarter of 2027, Q1 bookings have also rebounded meaningfully over the past three months, reinforcing our view that the impact is temporary. Demand remains broad-based, including very healthy demand for our peak summer European deployments. 2028 is also off to an excellent start at higher occupancy and even higher prices year over year, and our booking curve is further out than it has ever been at this point in the year. Customer deposits tell a similar story. They reached a third quarter record of approximately $7.6 billion, up about 7%, despite flat capacity growth over the next 12 months. With demand continuing to grow well ahead of our intentionally measured capacity growth, we have an opportunity to keep managing the booking curve for price. And that is exactly what our strategy is designed to do, drive more earnings and higher returns from our existing asset base with relentless focus and discipline. One of the most visible examples is our destination strategy. Celebration Key recently marked its first anniversary, having welcomed almost two and a half million guests in its first year alone. The guest response has been exceptional. Celebration Key is resonating with our loyal guests, giving them another compelling reason to sail with us again, while attracting new to cruise guests as well. And we are only just beginning to realize its potential. With the second pier now open, Celebration Key is expected to welcome approximately three and a half million guests next year, with 31 ships calling verse 26 this year. Its reach is also expanding beyond Carnival Cruise Line, with Princess joining next month, followed by select calls from Aida and Costa late next year. And Celebration Quay is just one part of what is becoming an increasingly differentiated destination portfolio. Our recently expanded experiences at Relax Away Half Moon Quay and Isla Tropical Roatan have already welcomed approximately 250,000 guests each with very positive guest response. We have made these amazing beach experiences even better and available to millions more guests. We can now pair the idyllic natural beauty of Relax Away, long one of our highest rated beach experiences, with the high energy experience of Celebration Key. Giving our guests two completely different beach experiences on the same itinerary and further differentiating what only we can offer. In fact, next year, 35% of Carnival Cruise Line's Caribbean capacity will feature itineraries visiting both of these incredible destinations on the same cruise. And there is more to come as we continue to develop our destination footprint, differentiate the vacation experiences we offer, and make our existing fleet even more valuable. We are applying the same return-focused mindset across the rest of the business. We're finding new ways to deepen guest loyalty and increase lifetime value. In the year following Carnival Cruise Line's June 2025 announcement of its new loyalty program, co-branded credit card issuances increased 20% even before the new benefits took effect. And since the program went live September 1st, issuances have accelerated significantly, more than tripling from pre-announcement levels. And while the program has only been live for a few weeks, thousands of members have already redeemed tens of millions of points on everything from a drink on board to a suite on Carnival Celebration. Exactly the kind of flexibility and choice the new program was designed to provide. We're also continuing to invest selectively in our fleet. Carnival Festival enters service in the Caribbean in May in time for the summer season and begins contributing to our results in the second half of the year. Our midlife modernization programs continue to progress, with additional vessels planned for AIDA and Holland America next year. We will also complete a major upgrade of Cunard's flagship Queen Mary II. As the world's only ocean liner providing regular transatlantic service, it is a one-of-a-kind asset, and our investment is designed to ensure it continues to generate attractive returns for decades to come. And we continue to optimize deployment toward markets where we see the greatest opportunity. Next year, for example, we are leaning even further into our successful Northern European deployments, where guest interest continues to grow in cool locations, cooler weather destinations, and outdoor activities, like hiking, exploring the fjords of Norway, and enjoying the northern lights. Importantly, we are doing this in the context of relatively flat overall capacity growth, meaning that we are actively shifting our deployment mix toward the opportunities we find most attractive. As a result, in 2027, Europe will, for the first time, tie with the Caribbean as our largest deployment region, each representing 34% of our mix. Of course, the Caribbean remains an important part of our strategy and will benefit from the continued expansion of our Paradise Collection portfolio even as we diversify our footprint more globally. And our diversified footprint is further strengthened by our industry-leading presence in Alaska, the ultimate coolcation. Our advantage there extends beyond cruising to our integrated land and sea experiences, supported by thousands of hotel and lodge rooms, 20 glass-domed rail cars, and the largest fleet of motor coaches in all of Alaska. Together, these assets give our guests unparalleled access to experience the extraordinary natural beauty, culture, and wildlife of the great land in ways that are difficult to replicate. Taking a step back, these are all different initiatives across different brands and geographies, but the strategy behind them is consistent. Create differentiated demand, improve revenue generation, and drive attractive returns on the capital we deploy. And clearly, those efforts are showing up in our financial results. Despite the significant fuel price headwind this year, we expect to finish 2026 with even more brands generating mid-teens or higher returns on invested capital than last year. That is meaningful progress, and we still see considerable runway ahead with each of our brands on a path toward higher returns. The consistency of our performance is also translating into increasingly durable cash flow, giving us the ability to invest in the business, strengthen the balance sheet, and return capital to shareholders at the same time. And yes, we are doing all three. We continue to invest in the highest return opportunities across our brands and destinations. We continue to reduce debt and strengthen our financial position. And just six months into our share repurchase program, we have already bought back about $1.2 billion of stock alongside our ongoing dividend. That balance is important. Our objective is not simply to grow. It is to grow earnings and returns in a disciplined way while increasing the amount of cash we can return to shareholders over time. And importantly, we have the best team in all of travel and leisure making it happen. None of what we have accomplished or what lies ahead would be possible without the dedication of our more than 160,000 team members both ship and shore. I want to thank them for everything they do every day to deliver unforgettable happiness to our guests by providing extraordinary cruise vacations while honoring the integrity of every place we visit, life we touch, and ocean we sail. I also want to thank our loyal guests, our investors, our travel agent partners, our destination and shipbuilding partners, and all of our stakeholders for their continued support. We have tremendous momentum, an incredible team, and significant opportunities still ahead of us. With that, I'll turn the call over to David to walk you through the quarter and our guidance in more detail.

Thank you, Josh. I'll begin with our third quarter results, then cover our updated full year guidance and several considerations for 2027 before closing with capital allocation. We delivered record revenues and yields with third quarter net income exceeding our June guidance by over $100 million, or $0.08 per share. The outperformance versus noon guidance was driven by three factors. Revenue was the primary driver for outperformance, contributing $0.05 per share. Yields increased nearly 2.5 percent year over year, on top of almost 5 percent growth in last year's third quarter. Strong close-in demand and robust onboard spending drove yields 1.2 percentage points above June guidance. Second, continued cost discipline drove additional upside. Cruise costs excluding fuel per ALBD increased only 1.8 percent year over year, 100 basis points better than June guidance contributing two cents per share. Importantly, nearly all the third quarter cruise cost savings flowed through to our full year September guidance. Third, the remaining one cent per share of favorability came from further improvements in fuel consumption where we delivered a nearly four percent year-over-year reduction on top of the over five percent reduction in last year's third quarter, as well as the full year 2025. Now turning to our full year September guidance. We expect operational improvement of more than $150 million in net income compared to June guidance, driven by improvements in yields, cruise costs excluding including fuel per ALBD, and fuel consumption, overcoming a $150 million impact from increased fuel prices. Our September guidance forecasts yield growth of approximately 2.3%, which is over half a point better than June guidance. We flowed through the $0.05 per share yield improvement from the third quarter and an additional $0.03 per share expected yield improvement for the fourth quarter for a total of $0.08 per share for the year. For the fourth quarter, we now expect year-over-year growth of approximately 1.7% over three-fourths of a point above our implied June guidance. On a normalized basis, adjusting for the impact of the new loyalty program accounting for Carnival Cruise Line, our fourth quarter yields are expected to be up approximately 2.3%, consistent with the year-over-year growth we saw in the third quarter. Cruise costs excluding fuel per AOBD are now expected to be up approximately 2.2% year-over-year, better than June guidance, which includes the $0.02 per share cost savings I previously mentioned for the third quarter. On a normalized basis, adjusted cruise costs excluding fuel per ALBD are up approximately 1.1% after reflecting the timing of certain expenses between the years, partial year operating expenses from two exclusive destinations, and the impact of certain elevated logistics costs as a result of the disruption from the Middle East conflict. Putting the full-year September guidance together, relative to June guidance, improved operating performance adds $0.12 per share, $0.08 from yields, $0.02 from cruise costs excluding fuel, and $0.02 from fuel consumption and other items. Share repurchases added $0.01 per share of EPS secretion, while higher fuel prices were an $0.11 per share headwind. However, the 26% reduction in fuel consumption per AOBD since 2019 helps to mitigate the impact of the fuel price increases as we consume less fuel. The lower consumption represents savings of nearly $750 million at September guidance fuel prices. As a result, full-year EPS guidance is now $2.24, up $0.02 from our previous guidance. Now, a few things for you to consider for 2027. We are forecasting a capacity increase of 0.5% in 2027 compared to 2026. As Josh indicated, we are in a strong position for 2027 with both occupancy and price at record levels. This is weighted to quarters 2 through 4 since the effects of the booking disruptions earlier this year, which impacted the second half of 2026, also carried heavily into bookings for the first quarter of 2027. While booking trends for the first quarter of 2027 have improved meaningfully over the past three months, we still expect the first quarter to reflect residual impacts from that disruption. Of course, the team is working hard to increase demand across the board, including first quarter sailings, and this gives us confidence in our ability to continue the momentum of our multi-year yield gains. On September 1st, we successfully launched Carnival Cruise Line's new loyalty program, Carnival Rewards. Our guests are already enjoying the enhanced benefits of the new program with more flexibility in how they earn and redeem rewards and more ways to get value from their relationship with Carnival. We are very confident in the benefits this program will bring to our guests and to the company over time. As I previously indicated, Carnival Rewards is expected to be cash flow positive from launch, although the timing effect of revenue recognition creates a temporary yield headwind in the fourth quarter 2026 and fiscal year 2027. Under the accounting treatment, we defer a portion of revenue equal to the value of benefits earned. As redemptions build, revenue recognized upon redemption will eventually exceed new deferrals. Until 2028, when the impact turns positive, we do expect to have accounting-driven yield headwinds. We previously explained a two-tenths of a point impact for the full year 2026, all of which is from the six-tenths of a point impact in the fourth quarter of 2026. And for full year 2027, there will be an additional four-tenths of a point impact. Now, I'll finish with some comments on capital allocation. To date, we have opportunistically repurchased nearly $1.2 billion of stock, representing 45 million shares. We are making meaningful progress towards our propelled target of distributing cash to our shareholders responsibly. Combining share repurchases with our expected fiscal year dividend payout, we will be returning nearly $2 billion to shareholders. Even with that level of capital return, we expect year over-year improvement in our balance sheet and leverage metrics, and our total debt is now below $24 billion, a far cry from our $36 billion peak in 2023. During the quarter, we also used cash on hand to redeem $500 million of 7% notes, which were among our highest cost debt instruments. Furthermore, during the quarter, S&P upgraded the company's credit rating, making it the second rating agency to assign the company an investment-grade rating. Following this upgrade, which allowed the collateral to be released, the company does not have any remaining secure debt. Our expected EBITDA of more than $7 billion provides the capacity to invest in the business, improve leverage, and return capital to shareholders. Operator, we're now ready to open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Now we're conducting your question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. To allow for as many questions as possible, we ask you to limit yourselves to one question and one follow-up. Thank you. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question today is coming from Robin Farley from UBS. Your line is now live.

Robin Farley Analyst — UBS

Thank you. I just wanted to ask about something a little bit away from the results today, although my follow-ups. I do have a question about the release. Just looking in the market, you know, there's a transaction with an all-inclusive Caribbean resort chain that one would assume, you know, others in the industry may be considered or looked at. I don't know if you have any thoughts you can share. Maybe it's not about that specific portfolio, but just your thoughts about synergies or, you know, would something like that make sense for Carnival or, you know, just any of you on that. Thank you. And then I give a follow-up on the release. Thanks.

Good morning, Robin. Wow, first question, not even about us. All right. So, I'll just talk about us. I won't talk about somebody else's transaction. I'd say, you know, it probably sounds a little bit like a broken record here, but we are just laser-focused on improving our cruise business. We are very proudly a cruise company, and everything we do is to enhance the cruise experience for our guests. And so, you know, we, our portfolio of eight brands, we feel we're in a great position given the momentum we've got and the things that we've got to come to be able to improve the business on the assets that we've got. Now, clearly, I'm not saying we don't have land-based assets in our portfolio. We do, but they're really ancillary to the cruise experience. things like Celebration Key, Relax Away at Half Moon Key, and our unmatched position in Alaska. Those are all really bold-ons to make the cruise product even better, and they're high-returning. You know, we're focused on the returns. We're focused on the cruise business. So there you go.

Robin Farley Analyst — UBS

Okay, great. Thank you. And then just for my follow-up, just the booking outlook and the release, I'm just curious if you can help clarify, it talked about 27 price and load being at record levels. It doesn't say higher, and that may be fine, that may be part of the yield management strategy, but then in talking about 28, it does say higher occupancy and price. So I'm just wondering if I'm interpreting that right about 2027, that it's maybe at the same levels.

No, no, 2027 is higher. I'm sorry. Yeah, we're dancing on the pinhead. So, sorry, 27 occupancy and prices higher.

Robin Farley Analyst — UBS

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

No problem, man.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from James Hardiman from the city. Your line is now live.

James Hardiman Analyst — Citi

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions, and congrats on a really strong and maybe even surprisingly strong quarter here. I guess my first question, I mean, it sounds like the last – sure thing. It sounds like the last three months of bookings were really good for you guys, which is particularly noteworthy given the fact that the macro and the geopolitical headlines haven't really gotten any better. And I don't think airfare prices have gotten dramatically better. So maybe, you know, help us connect those two dots. I mean, do we think that some of this is specific to your business model where a lot of your customers are maybe closer to departure ports and so airfare doesn't matter as much or European customers care less? We've talked about that sort of distinction in the past. Europeans to European destinations and maybe Americans to European destinations. Or do we think there's just fatigue with all of these headlines and people are saying, you know, I'm going to go on my vacation, hell or high water, and we're now beginning to see that?

Yeah. No, I think all of those are pretty fair points, to be honest with you. I mean, you know, taking a step back, you know, June was an inflection point in the booking momentum, and it was positive year over year. And then we saw a nice acceleration in both July and August. I think to some extent, there's a normalization of what the world is throwing at people. There is a growing change in the mentality of Americans, which is just catching up to Europeans, as we've talked about before. The vacations are sacrosanct. And, you know, they will take them in good times and in bad. If you have a job, you get a break and you need that vacation. And so we are an amazing value for people if the consumer confidence isn't great, if there is pressure from things like price of gasoline, if there's other inflation, if there's concerns about fill in the blank, because that's all we hear about nowadays. And we're a great value. We give a great experience. And we make it convenient for people. So we really do feel like our strategy is working. It can work in great times, and it can work in times that aren't so great, and that's what you're seeing now.

James Hardiman Analyst — Citi

Got it. And then, Josh, in your prepared remarks, you talked about the fact that Europe for the first time will tie the Caribbean for the largest deployment region. Sounds like there's a bigger narrative there.

I feel like I've been saying for a decade that eventually the pendulum might shift back towards europe and at least for you guys that that's happening um so maybe speak to what you're seeing on both sides of the atlantic um are you concerned about what's going on with respect to caribbean capacity into into 2027 thanks well uh so i'll answer a europe question and then a caribbean question the the europe question is this isn't new for us this has been a growing piece of the business and the strategy particularly in northern europe as i mentioned in my prepared remarks, which is just amazing destinations for both North Americans and Europeans, and so our brands have a great foothold there. We actually have more European sailings outside of the Med than in the Med, and we love that It's also longer seasonality. We can push into the shoulders more because that's what guests are looking for, which fits well. With respect to the Caribbean, you know, I've said this in different ways. I'll say to you, you know, give me two options. Option number one is no growth in the Caribbean. Option number two is, if you look at 2027, you know, something like 37% growth over a three-year period. I'm going to go with option A. Option A would make my life easier, make a lot of people's lives easier. But it's not taking away from the fact that the Caribbean is an amazing part of our portfolio. And we are absolutely committed to it for forever. And hence the investments that we've made in our Paradise collection. Carnival Clujan has been the leader in the Caribbean all year sailing forever, and we expect that to continue. Does it face pressure when there's that kind of capacity coming at one time? Yeah, it does. And we've seen it before. and we get through it. We just got through, you know, the third quarter of this year yields up, I'd say, fairly nicely. We're looking at the full year up almost 3% on a normalized basis, including our Caribbean portfolio against the backdrop of a pretty volatile world. So, I'd say, you know, all of that's fitting together really nicely.

James Hardiman Analyst — Citi

Great color. Thanks, Josh. Thanks, James.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Brent Montour from Barclays, your line is now live.

Brent Montour Analyst — Barclays

Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. So back to 2027, I'm just curious, Josh, if you want to kind of paint a picture on how the customer, how your booking customer feels about booking that far out, and specifically relating this year, kind of six months into Iran, looking at one year out versus one year ago, six months into tariffs, booking out to 26. Have you seen any differences there, and then, you know, which brands or which cohorts are you seeing that differential?

Yeah, you know, I won't get into specific brands and customer bases of the brands, but what I would say is every crisis is different, and certainly this crisis was different from last year. We thought we'd have a great opportunity to lap the volatility from last year, But obviously, what happened in the spring was a much longer burn for the consumer and for just the macroeconomic backdrop. And so, you know, we did have a lot of different patterns that were coming through in the second quarter, some of which spilled over into the third quarter. And, you know, as we've been going through, it's been getting better, certainly. But the impact it had on the long-haul flights, the exotic cruises, the things that we talked about that are going to have an impact in the first quarter, they're not insurmountable. But it certainly was more of a challenge than when we were thinking about last year at the same time and what it meant. At the same time, we really saw almost a double down on Europe for next year, particularly in the third quarter, which is the biggest part of the European deployment. So there was certainly a large cohort of people in the spring into the early summer that said, right, we're not going this year, but we are going next year. And so that bodes very well for 2027. So the flavors are always going to be different. It's our job to figure that out. And the teams pivot really well, adjust their booking strategies, voyage by voyage, you know, deployment by deployment. And like we said, we do believe that coming out of all of that, we'll still be able to experience solid yield next year. That's great.

Brent Montour Analyst — Barclays

Thanks for that. And then just a quick follow-up, maybe not so quick, but, you know, I think everybody on this call knows how to look through your release and see the core operating KPIs and how well you're doing. Obviously, EPS takes into account fuel, and that's much more volatile. So I'll just sort of ask the quarterly kind of question here, but, you know, it's six months into this conflict and fuel kind of, you know, doing what it's doing. Any change or update to the philosophy longer term or the conversation internally thinking about potentially looking at hedging at some point in the future?

Yeah, thanks for getting out of the way, Ryan. So, you know, only when fuel's up, right? That's the only time people ask. It's a very fair question to ask, because it does have the ability to reduce volatility in any given year. As we've looked at our business, we've looked at this financially as well. You know, we do believe that that's a short-term band-aid that sometimes pays off, sometimes it doesn't. But the reduction in the volatility to us isn't worth paying banks or counterparties to effectuate those types of trades. And that's why we have been maniacally focused on our consumption rates. And you heard some statistics from David in his prepared remarks. But, you know, the fact that our consumption rate is down 26 percent since 2019, 13 percent than just three years ago, that that is where our focus is and that's where we're going to actually save the money because fuel for the medium term at least is always going to be an input cost and the best way you can combat the input cost is to use less of it and so our teams have done an absolutely remarkable job of continuing to innovate both on itineraries and the technology to really make that happen And I couldn't be prouder of that work. It is also good for the planet, and it's tremendous for our bottom line.

Brent Montour Analyst — Barclays

Thanks, Josh. Congrats on the results.

Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Matthew Balls from KP Morgan. Your line is now live.

Amanda Douglas Analyst — JPMorgan

Great, thanks. It's Amanda Douglas on for Matt. So, Josh, relative to the normalized yield growth of 2.7% expected for this year, could you speak to puts and takes to consider as we look ahead to 27, including if you see any constraints to bookings apart from the first quarter dynamics that you cited and tailwinds to consider from your destination portfolio and modernization initiatives?

Thanks for the question, Amanda. We talked about the first quarter because it does just stick out for us a little bit because of the knock-on impact of the spring volatility. I don't actually think that there's too much to talk about. Clearly, we love our deployment strategy. We think the combination of our European base, the Alaska portfolio that we've got, including the land side to help. And then obviously the Caribbean is gonna remain important. And all of those have gotta do their part to help us on the yield growth. And so we'll certainly talk more in December about how we think about 2027 and some of the ins and outs, but overall we feel very good about the trajectory.

Amanda Douglas Analyst — JPMorgan

Thank you. And just as a follow-up, could you also speak to the strength of onboard spending trends that you're seeing real-time or any signs of pause or change in the consumer's behavior relative to three months ago?

Yeah, no, if anything, onboard has just accelerated, so we see continued strength from the consumer, and always with an asterisk, because of the way we do packages and bundles and things of that nature, you always should look at the total revenue because of how things might fall between ticket and onboard, but overall, just to reiterate, no, we haven't seen the slowdown. The onboard trajectory has been really quite strong.

Amanda Douglas Analyst — JPMorgan

Thank you.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Trey Bowers from Wells Fargo. Your line is now live.

Trey Bowers Analyst — Wells Fargo

Hey, guys. Thanks so much for the question. I'll start with kind of a macro question, pivot a little bit from yields for a second. Now that you guys are investment grade, any thoughts as we think longer term? I know maximizing ROIC investments is the priority, but with the balance sheet in such good shape. Is there any thought around just trying to expand kind of the capacity growth slightly? Thanks.

Yeah, I mean, look, our capacity growth is pretty fixed for, you know, the next half decade. So that's where we are. You know, if there were opportunities that came around that are one-off unique things, I'd always look at it, like that's part of the job. But I think that's where where we are uh is there more opportunity as we get further into the 2030s for for more ships yeah um you know i still think it will fit within our one to two ship a year construct um and and you know if we were ever going to deviate from that certainly um be be something that we share with our with our stakeholders great and then as a follow-up just as you guys mentioned again the the q1 cadence is the exit rate we saw coming out of q3 and q4 on kind of a like for like yield basis the right way to think about q1 or is it just given the dynamics of the timing of the wave season is that expected to be a bit of a downtick from where we exit the year thanks so much yeah sorry we're not gonna we're starting to deviate into guidance for uh 2027 which we're not going to do. I just note that we feel good overall about 2027, particularly as you get away from Q1 into the latter part of the year. I'm not foreshadowing anything about Q1 other than it's got a little bit of a different profile. We'll talk more about that in December.

Trey Bowers Analyst — Wells Fargo

I appreciate it. I had to try. Thanks, guys.

Good try.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Zian Ziu from BMP PowerBuy. Your line is on live.

Zion Zivan Analyst — BMO

Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. Maybe following up a little bit on Caribbean, if we look at the capacity deployment mix, it seems like Caribbean capacity might be slightly down next year. But at the same time, you have kind of that growing private destination attendance guest mix. So, like, I guess, like, maybe those two combined, I would think, bode well for pricing. But any thoughts on how we should think about that? What's it takes for Caribbean?

Yeah, I think, you know, you've got to deconstruct it a little bit. I mean, some of the decrease in our capacity is Princess is moving out and sending a ship to Japan, which is going to be great for us. But Princess is generally a premium brand. So when you pull a premium brand out, that has a different impact than others in the deployment region. But so there's little changes, you know, here and there. But generally speaking for the Caribbean, we're pretty consistent in the actual underlying core capacity. And we are going to be able to flex both Celebration Key and RelaxAway because both now have their full marine infrastructure built out, which means we can maximize the marine side of those assets, which is why the throughput is going to be up nicely year over year for those two destinations.

Zion Zivan Analyst — BMO

Thanks. And then, you know, we talked a little bit about pricing for 27, how bookings have been ahead, but, you know, maybe on the cost side, you've done a really good job of controlling cost. Anything we should think about in terms of cost into next year?

Anything different than maybe your algo or kind of the success you've been having this year? there's nothing in particular that's notable for 2027 as you can see in 26 we've been working hard to reduce costs and to find ways to save money through sourcing and other means and our operating companies have been working hard to find efficiencies in their business as well and we'll continue to step that up and to do more in 2027 but there's nothing in particular to meaningful to drive the cost one way or the other.

Operator

All right. Thanks. Good luck, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Next question today is coming from Patrick Schultz from Truist Security. Your line is out live.

Patrick Scholes Analyst — Truist

Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Patrick. Good morning. Could you give us a little bit more color on the 7% onboard and other revenue growth in the quarter? you know, specifically within that growth, how much did you see from last year's open Celebration Key and how much was more from the actual onboard itself? And, you know, how would we, within your 4Q net yield guide, you know, how much would you attribute from Celebration Key and how much from the core. Thank you. X, Celebration Key.

So the third quarter onboard revenue was really broad-based across all categories, and it was also across all brands on both sides of the Atlantic. So as Josh talked about before, we are not seeing any slowdown in the strength of the consumer. I think our bundled packages are helping to contribute to the onboard revenue. We're seeing, you know, more than 50% of our revenues pre-booked, so we're getting the benefit of the second wallet meaningfully onboard. And so as a result, you know, as Josh said before, onboards have been very strong. And, you know, as far as the fourth quarter is concerned, I mean, you know, we give guidance in total and yields. Judge mentioned to judge us on the total. Because of all the packages and things we offer, breaking down the two components, you know, isn't as meaningful as it used to be. And we gave you our yield guidance for the fourth quarter, and it's as strong as the third. So we'll look forward to that. Okay, thank you. Thanks, Patrick.

Operator

Thank you. Next question today is coming from Steve Wazinski from Steeple. Your line is now live.

Steve Wieczynski Analyst — Stifel

Hey, guys. Good morning. Josh, so as we think about the Propel targets, you know, that would indicate you guys are targeting about, you know, let's say about $350 a share in earnings as we go up to 2029. 2026, you know, we kind of know now it's going to be, what, $220 a share in earnings. So, you know, that's implying about 20% earnings growth a year through, you know, through 2029. I mean, you know, you mentioned in the past you guys don't forecast for the world to be perfect. But with oil prices, you know, a war, Caribbean pricing, potential headwinds, and others, I mean, as we sit here today, you know, is that 20% earnings growth still pretty realistic in your view? And, I mean, look, I assume so, getting you signed up on these targets. But, you know, just want to get your kind of high-level thoughts around that.

Yeah, no, fair question. You know, obviously, let's start with the operational. And operationally, we are doing – I would think this is a pretty good year against the backdrop that we were given. And so, you know, yields up almost 3% on a normalized basis in a year where there is the biggest geopolitical crisis we've seen in, I would argue, decades. That's a pretty good sign that the demand is robust and our brands are doing a really good job. Fuel prices, we do not know. You're right. We don't know what's going to happen in the future. They're going to go up. They're going to go down. I do know we can control consumption well and continue to drive that down, which is part of how we're going to improve the earnings profile. And, you know, our teams, we've got to shoot high, right? And we've got to think about the different types of things that we can do, not only on the demand generation side, but being innovative on the cost side, especially when our capacity is moderate growth, as you know, to be smarter and more efficient in everything we do. And I think our teams are absolutely capable of figuring those things out. You know, some of the trajectory that we've got is, frankly, us, I think, getting a little bit ahead on the collaborative nature of the things that we can do internally to really leverage our scale on a fuller basis, take advantage of the technologies that are out there now and are continuing to evolve. so I'm not pretending it's not going to be hard work but it's hard work that I think we're all excited to take on and we've got pretty good road maps to get there now if fuel would cooperate that would make it a hell of a lot easier but clearly we can't count on that okay Josh here's a question I don't think you're going to answer but I'm going to try it anyway

Steve Wieczynski Analyst — Stifel

thank you for the preface Scott thank you I know you can basically just say no comment after I ask this I know you don't want to give guidance at this point for next year but if we go back and we think about kind of how you started your guidance ranges for I think it was the last two years you kind of started those in a what we call kind of a negative yield cost spread David gave us a little bit of help in terms of cost for 27 but as we think about next year should we be thinking about the way you kind of start 27 and that negative yield cost spread as you sit here today? Again, I don't think you're going to answer that, but I'm going to try it.

I won't answer it. Nice try. I won't answer it. I would say I fully expect it to fit into the algorithm that we provided for our Propel targets. So let's see how we go.

Steve Wieczynski Analyst — Stifel

Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you.

Thanks for trying.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today Hey, it's coming from Ben Shakin from Missoujo Security. Your line is now live. From Missoujo, your line is now live.

Ben Chaiken Analyst — Mizuho

Hey, thanks for taking the questions. I guess, Josh, I want to touch on the European deployment comments. You know, you gave us some interesting commentary about the size of the market relative to the Caribbean. And I could be mistaken, but it also sounds like there's a shift in itinerary as well, leveraging cooler weather experiences versus beach, which I think is new. Maybe you could expand on what you're seeing and the opportunity and then kind of a modeling follow-up.

Sure. Yeah, talking about deployment here. And, you know, I don't think it's new. I think that Europe, particularly Northern Europe, is on the wish list of many North Americans. And frankly, with our European brands, you know, it's the backyard for Germany, for the UK, for even for Italy, which has a very strong presence for Northern Europe. And Northern in Europe is it could be Baltic states, it could be Sweden, it could be the fjords, it could be actually getting all the way to Iceland and back. I mean, there's just a lot of opportunity for things that are on people's list. And, you know, one of the things that we have noticed is that if people are looking for a beach vacation, we can satisfy them very well with what we do in the Caribbean. But there's a contingent that is looking, particularly in the summer, to explore Europe, and they can do it with us, you know, all around that European territory. We do believe that Northern Europe has been more beneficial for us over the past couple of years, probably, and we expect that to continue. And it's not really a change. I guess probably we're emphasizing it a little bit more, particularly because there was a lot of questions about Europe because of the disruption in the spring. So it is something, though, that we feel, you know, very, very committed to for pretty much all of our brands, even Carnival when they're going over for refits and they have to get to Europe. That's a great itinerary for them while they're there.

Ben Chaiken Analyst — Mizuho

Okay. And then maybe on another shot on goals regarding costs next year, if I'm not mistaken, or maybe I can frame it this way. If I'm not mistaken, I think 26 had a few different one-time costs in it. There was some logistics, moving crew around. I think you had kind of some celebration key overflow from FY25. Is it fair to say that this year had something in the range of, I don't know, 130 to 150 basis points of one-timers in the number?

Probably something a little over a point. but but keep in mind that this year's celebration key operated the full year um half moon key had a half year of operation and so we're also in a situation but we're talking just a couple of tenths of a point you know next year we will have five evolution ships um in dry dock compared to two this year. But overall, you know, that may shift some of the costs around, but we are very confident in next year and in our cost structure, given everything we're doing to control costs, find sourcing savings, and find efficiencies in our business that will see control costs in 2027.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Conor Cunningham from Milius Research. Your line is now live.

Conor Cunningham Analyst — Melius Research

Hi, everyone. I was hoping you could just level set a little bit about what a normalized CapEx profile looks like for the company for now. I mean, again, new builds are pretty limited. So just on the non-new build side, what that could potentially look like. I realize that a lot of it's like high return on investment, but just any building blocks there would be super helpful.

Yeah, well, you know, like the P&L, we're not giving guidance for CapEx for 2027 yet. But we have said this before, our non-new bill CapEx for 2026 is $2.4 billion. And we do expect to see a little bit of a step up in that number as we go forward because of, you know, I mentioned the five evolution ships next year versus two this year. So we are expecting to see a step up in the amount. But we'll get more guidance in December on that as well.

Conor Cunningham Analyst — Melius Research

But that is a structural, like we should expect that to be like a structural higher thing through the end of the decade as you have less new bills, correct?

You know, it's obviously very early to get multiple year guidance, but we do expect to see somewhat higher than the $2.4 billion a year for the next few years.

Conor Cunningham Analyst — Melius Research

Okay. Super helpful. And then maybe a silly question, but I'm just trying to understand the commentary around the shift in European and whatnot. But I would think that European cruises are just a natural higher ADR versus other areas in some aspects. So is there just a mixed benefit in the commentary that you're talking about from a booked position in the 27 or are you talking about it on a like-for-like basis if the itinerary deployments were the same overall? I realize that's a little nuanced, but, yeah, thanks.

It's a difficult question to answer because, you know, you've got different ships. I mean, different times of the year, we get very different yields in different places. But overall, what we're always trying to do is optimize our revenue as well as our profit or operating income, and so we have shifted ships around in order to do that.

Yeah, and I'd say that, you know, the two guiding principles we have when we're making our deployment decisions is, one, you know, where ultimately do these guests want to go and what's the most secretive for the business? And so, you know, we trust – I'd say trust us. We're doing it for the right reasons for both guest satisfaction and the bottom line for the company.

Liz Doupé Analyst — Goldman Sachs

I would hope so but thank you thanks again you're welcome thank you next question today is coming from Lizzie Dope from Goldman Sachs your line is now live hey thanks for taking the question and congrats on great results I wanted to ask about your private destination strategy I think in the presentation it looks like your celebration key visits will be up about 30% next year relax away in Isla Tropical almost 50 and so I know you've already made a lot of great investments there are already a great offering and amenities, but is there a desire over the longer term to kind of do more and expand further with any of those destinations?

I think, you know, there might be some little things we can do here and there for East of Tropical. Might be some more improvements we can make over time for Relax Away, but we feel very comfortable about those positions. celebration key you know we are we are certainly maxed out and the current build that we've got on the land side and we have the ability to build more and we've talked about that in a pretty theoretical way with with with you all before I do I do hope and expect that we'll be able to talk about you know what's phase two for celebration key to be able to be able to provide even even more to even more guests over time but it's premature to talk about that got it okay and then i guess kind of maybe final shot on goal at this but i was going back to look at your

Liz Doupé Analyst — Goldman Sachs

propel um guidance back on what you talked about on the q1 call and something i found interesting then was obviously you said you know yield growth would outpace cost growth but you've made a comment that as you drive operational efficiencies and realize scale benefits and whatnot that they'll be decelerating cost growth throughout the period. Now, I know that's through 2029, but could you maybe just talk about that and when you kind of gave that guidance at the time for decelerating cost growth, if there's kind of a turning point for that or just how to think about some of those savings. Appreciating you've already kind of outperformed on costs, but yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I was going to start with, well, we're already pulling some of that forward, right? And I think the team is doing a really good job of not sticking to the algorithm for the sake of the algorithm, but really trying to do what we can and so pulling some of that forward. So, you know, we'll talk more about specific cost guidance when we get into 2027, but from a trajectory standpoint and what we think we can achieve for Propel, that still holds, but we'll talk about specifics in any particular year when we give guidance and we're not there yet okay thank you thank you operator I think we have time for one more call certainly our final question today is coming from Asya Gorgieva from infinity researcher line is now live good morning thank you for taking my call and congratulations on a great quarter I understand that there might be still some issues with q1 you know because of the summer events

Asya Gorgieva Analyst — Infinity Research

and because winter quarters can be sloppier, as we like to call them. But it does seem that 27 might be an above, how should I put it, historical track of about 2% yield improvement. Is that fair to say? I know in the press release you were saying it will be a record year, but even a 10 basis point yield improvement will technically be a record yield. So I just wondered, relative to the 2% historical benchmark, Mark, is that what you're thinking at this point, or could we be higher because of that Europe shift in demand? Thank you so much.

Thank you for the question. I appreciate you giving it one last shot for the team on trying to get us to give more guidance, but we're not going to. And so we'll talk more about 2027 in three months when we get on the call.

Speaker 0

Thank you, Josh. I appreciate that. I had to try.

Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you, everybody, for participating, and we will talk to you again in three months. And before we get off, I'd just like to shout out again to the team for doing a remarkable job against a very complicated backdrop. So thank you very much for a job well done. Take care.

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today's telecoverage. You may just present your lines at this time and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.

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