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Thank you for standing by. My name is Jeanne Inouye, your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Celsius Holding, Inc. 4th quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference over to Paul Wiseman, Investor Relations. You may begin.
Good evening, and thank you for joining Celsius Holdings' fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings webcast. With me today are John Fieldley, Chairman and CEO, Jared Langans, Chief Financial Officer, and Toby David, Chief of Staff. We'll take questions following the prepared remarks our fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings press release was issued this afternoon as well as a press release announcing our agreement to acquire alani new all materials are available on our website ir.celciusholdingsinc.com and on the sec site sec.gov an audio replay of this webcast will also be accessible later tonight today's discussion includes forward-looking statements based on current expectations and information these statements involve risks and uncertainties, many beyond the company's control. Celsius Holdings disclaims any duty to update forward-looking statements except as required by law. Please review our safe harbor statements and risk factors in today's press release and in our annual and quarterly filings with the SEC for additional information, which contain a description of risks that may result in actual results differing materially from those contemplated by our forward-looking statements. We'll present results on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis. Non-GAAP measures like adjusted EBITDA and their GAAP reconciliations are detailed in our fourth quarter earnings release and the press release announcing our acquisition of Alani Nu and non-GAAP financial measures should not be used as a substitute for our results reported in accordance with GAAP. With that, I'll turn it over to John.
Thank you, Paul. Good evening, everyone. Earlier today, Celsius reported its fourth quarter full year 2024 financial results and announced that it has entered into a definitive agreement to acquire Alani Nu, a leading brand in the U.S. energy drink category, and one we greatly admire for its outstanding portfolio of functional products and a strong brand affinity among key growing consumer segments. Before providing more detail on this exciting announcement, Jared and I would like to discuss our recent results. Salesforce reported record 2024 revenue of $1.36 billion, which reflects the strong and growing consumer demand for premium functional beverage alternatives. This figure represents a 3% year-over-year increase in revenue, and a 22% increase in retail sales compared to 2023. 2024 was challenging for many CPG sectors. The energy drink category was not immune to the effects, yet Celsius delivered strong 22% volume growth year-over-year compared to the total energy category, which grew 5%. We believe our resilience represents a bellwether for our portfolio of brands and the consumer movement towards choosing zero-sugar, functional beverage options for their energy needs. Celsius has disrupted the category by innovating products that today's consumers want. We expected our competitors to respond eventually, and it came with a flurry of new sugar-free products last year, which supports our long-held belief that the future of functional beverages is sugar-free. Fortunately for Celsius, our portfolio is composed of the most refreshing, best-tasting, zero-sugar functional beverage products available today. In 2024 Celsius introduced Celsius Essentials, a new line of 16 ounce performance energy drinks which expanded our presence and brought in new consumers who seek high performance and the refreshing great taste that Celsius delivers. We increased our total points of distribution in 2024 by 37 percent year over year. Ensuring that Celsius is available in more places to meet the immediate consumption demands and our ACV reached new heights at 98.7 percent today, consumers can purchase cold, refreshing Celsius from more than 241,000 outlets in the United States. Last month, we launched a Celsius hydration, what opens up an entirely new category for our portfolio, increasing the variety of occasions when consumers can include Celsius in their daily routines.
This is another layer in our foundation towards being the leading Better For You functional lifestyle platform.
Importantly, for our retail customers, for the health of the category at large, Celsius contributed 30% of all category growth in 2024, continuing to bring in new consumers and increase in consumption. And I am pleased to note that earlier this month, Celsius was the recipient of the 2024 7-Eleven Immediate Consumption Execution Award. This award recognizes outstanding suppliers for excelling and driving immediate consumption sales through strong merchandising, innovation, and promotional execution that enhances purchasing behavior. year. As we begin 2025, we believe we have the right strategy to drive sustained long-term growth, innovating zero-sugar, functional lifestyle products, building a broad portfolio of premium growing brands, and expanding our global presence alongside strong partners. With a best-in-class team and a rapidly growing community of consumers seeking better-for-you functional product alternatives, we are well positioned to continue to drive the evolution of the modern category. We continue to collaborate with Pepsi and to harness the greatest value from our strength of our New York America distribution partner. Both we and Pepsi seek to continually optimize our operations. We believe Pepsi, right sizing across inventories and the pursuit of efficient operations is positive for our long-term health of our supply chain. We believe our communication with one another remains strong and we look forward to a highly productive 2025 and beyond. The last time we spoke I discussed our three growth drivers. We pursue growth by reaching more people in more places more often. In the past few months we have launched six brand new flavors, expanded distribution of two previously lead launch flavors and introduced new multi-packed varieties and sizes that cater to consumers desires for variety and value i also mentioned celsius hydration which is a brand new category for us we believe this new line will excite our consumers and grow the value of our functional products in their daily lives you can now find our celsius hydration on amazon and at a growing number of retailers ecom and food service continue to be a strong channel for us and celsius is regularly among the top brands on amazon starting in march celsius will begin to be sold certain subway restaurants representing a total opportunity of 18 000 locations nationwide celsius also gained distribution in home depot which is another strong non-traditional customer our portfolio is strengthened even more with today's exciting news that celsius has agreed to acquire leading female-focused functional wellness brand Alani Nu. Before talking more about this great opportunity, I'll hand it off to Jared to provide some details on our fourth quarter and full year financial results. Jared?
Thanks, John. Our fourth quarter, in several ways, returned us to more traditional results after a very uncharacteristic third quarter of 2024, such as our solid gross margin. However, there were one-time costs related to our big beverage acquisition, expenses related to the creation of our new global center of excellence as well as several one-time costs including legal settlement and penalties paid to our co-packers that impacted results in addition our top line was impacted by some promotional allowances as well as the impact of a fully implemented incentive program with our largest distributor as well as some timing of orders this resulted in revenue and adjusted EBITDA each declining four percent in the fourth quarter compared to year ago with that said our quarterly gross margin improved 240 basis points to 50.2 percent as a result of lower freight costs and savings on the purchase of raw materials and our adjusted ebitda margin was flat at 18.9 percent each on a year-over-year basis sgna in the fourth quarter increased 73 to 185 million primarily due to accrued legal expenses related to a case we have on appeal, as well as one-time restructuring and co-packer charges. We recognized the net loss of approximately $18.9 million in the fourth quarter, down from a net gain of $50.1 million last year due to the aforementioned costs. Adjusted diluted EPS for the fourth quarter was $0.14. For the full year, revenue was approximately $1.36 billion, an increase of 3% from a year ago, seeing growth from both the North American business as well as our international business, which was supported by our expansion into canada the uk ireland france australia and new zealand gross profit increased seven percent to 680 million dollars and our gross profit margin increased 220 basis points to 50.2 percent for the full year compared to a year ago as a percentage of sales sales and marketing was 25.9 percent in 2024 compared to 20 in the prior year same period due to additional advertising activity. G&A expense of the percentage of sales was 12.8% for the full year 2024 versus 7.8% in the prior year, same period, due to expenses related to an ongoing litigation and other one-time costs. Net income for the year was approximately $145 million, a 36% decline compared to a year ago as a result of the timing of distributor orders and the previously mentioned costs. Adjusted diluted EPS for the full year was 70 cents. Despite the pressure experience in the second half of 2024, we maintained a cash balance of approximately $890 million, even after acquiring Big Beverages, and we generated positive full-year operating cash flow. We will continue to pursue growth with further investment in brand support and innovation. We are also focusing our efforts on further cost management and supply chain efficiencies, which are expected to support margin improvement. As mentioned last quarter, with the acquisition of Copac or Big Beverages, we gained new innovation capabilities and greater control of our supply chain, as well as financial benefits that we will continue to realize over the near and long term. And we now look to further expand in the Better for You functional lifestyle category with our planned acquisition of Alani Nu. And with that, I'll turn it back to you, John.
Thanks, Jerry. I'm excited to talk to you today about the acquisition we believe will create significant value for our company and our shareholders. We entered into a definitive agreement to acquire Alani Nu for $1.8 billion, comprising of a mix of cash and stock. The acquisition represents a unique opportunity to enhance the Celsius platform with a complementary, profitable, better-for-you lifestyle energy brand focused on a differentiated consumer segment within the category. Alani Nu is a growing female-focused brand that delivers functional, great-tasting wellness products for a growing community of millennials and Gen Z consumers. Alani News stands out for its authentic brand voice, bright and playful flavors, and unique connections with its community of consumers. They combine functional benefits with a fun, approachable personality, making wellness aspirational yet accessible. The transaction delivers several compelling strategic benefits. First, together we create a leading, better-for-you, functional lifestyle platform at the intersections of consumer megatrends with the addition of alani new the combined celsius platform delivers pro forma 2 billion in sales in 2024 across a differentiated energy portfolio that is firmly aligned with the ongoing consumer shifts towards premium functional beverage options that cater to health and wellness and active lifestyles second this deal combines two growing scaled energy brands with clear category tailwinds the transaction is expected to enhance celsius position as an innovative leader in the large growing energy category which is projected to grow at a 10 kager from 2024 to 2029. third the deal provides complimentary brand positioning and gives us expanded access to a fast-growing wellness focused audience that is driving incremental category growth. Fourth, our combination leverages our strengths and capabilities to drive our next phase of growth. The added breadth of the combined platform is expected to further strengthen the company's position with ample resources for on-growing investment. Both brands will be well positioned under the Celsius platform to drive continued distribution gains access consumers and growing adjacencies drive innovation and brand awareness and achieve incremental category growth and propel further global expansion finally the combination enhances Celsius top-line growth algorithm as expected to be cash EPS secretive in year one with a meaningful synergy of opportunities additionally we expect 50 million of run rate of cost synergies to be achieved over two years post close contributing to a strong pro forma profitability and significant cash flow generation we see significant growth potential by applying celsius strong channel and digital marketing product development and expansion strategies to help alani new grow we see opportunities to continue to grow alani new news national distribution included in key coastal metro markets drive continued flavor and format innovation and expand globally we also expect to drive continued innovation and product development to draw more consumers into the wellness lifestyle that alani new offers additionally we believe that we will each benefit from our combined strengths at retail and significant resources to continue to invest in the growth opportunities upon closing alani new will operate within celsius and key leaders from congo branch which operate alani new have agreed to continue as advisors to celsius to help ensure continued business momentum the agreement has been approved by the celsius board of directors the transaction is subject to customary closing conditions including regulatory approvals and is expected to close in the second quarter of 2025. In short, this combination advances our strategies, strengthens our position, and paves the way for long-term value creation. Celsius was a pioneer of the Better Few Energy category over 20 years ago, and we are thrilled to expand our portfolio with the acquisition of Alani Nu. Importantly, following the transaction, we will have ample balance sheet capability for additional growth investment. We believe we have the right strategy to drive sustained long-term growth, and the acquisition of Alani Nu is expected to strengthen Celsius's position as an innovative leader in the large, growing global energy category. And now, I'll turn it over to Jared to talk more about the financial terms of the transaction. Jared.
Thank you. As John mentioned, we're excited to partner with Alani Nu to create a leading, better-for-you functional lifestyle platform. Under the terms of the agreement, Celsius will acquire Alani Nu from co-founders Katie and Hayden and Congo Brands co-founders Max and Trey for $1.8 billion, comprising a mix of cash and stock, including a potential $25 million earn-out based on 2025 performance. This includes approximately $150 million net present value of tax benefits for a net purchase price of $1.65 billion and represents an attractive valuation of less than three times 2024 revenue of $595 million and approximately 12 times fully synergized Alani Nu 2024 adjusted EBITDA of $137 million, which includes approximately $50 million in synergies across our supply chain, utilization of our sales force and back shop infrastructure. The purchase price consideration is comprised of approximately $1.275 billion of cash and a $25 million earn out and $500 million of newly issued restricted shares of Celsius Holdings common stock representing approximately 8.6% pro forma ownership. We intend to fund the cash consideration using a combination of $900 million of fully committed debt financing and approximately $375 million of cash on hand. We expect that our liquidity position will remain strong following the transaction with a pro forma net leverage of approximately one times with ample cash on the balance sheet. This allows us to continue to opportunistically pursue growth investments that drive shareholder value. Stock consideration will be subject to a lockup agreement, which will be released over a two-year period, aligning long-term interest to drive future growth and value creation. At closing, we will enter into a transition services agreement and certain consulting agreements to help retain key brand leadership and support the integration process. We look forward to keeping you updated on the progress of the deal in the coming months. With that, we'll open up the line for your questions.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. If you are called upon to ask your question and are listening via loudspeaker on your device, please pick up your handset and ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking your question. We do request for today's session that you please limit to one question.
Again, press star one to join the queue and your first question comes from line of camille kajrawala of jeffrey's please go ahead uh hey guys good uh good evening um can you maybe talk about the positioning of the two brands and how you um plan to solve for maybe any other lines or how differently they may or may not be positioned yeah um great question we're excited about the addition of alani new into our portfolio at Celsius Holdings.
The Alani new brand has a very unique consumer base, which is incremental to our overall portfolio and complementary to Celsius. It's targeting a younger female consumer that really is aspirational. It's also accessible and it revolves around health and wellness and fitness. Their social media, as an example, is about a 92% female following. And when we look at the really any cannibalization potential, it's fairly low. We actually see a much higher trade in between brands, looking at some of the top tier brands in the category as well. So this is truly incremental and Lonnie New has been also contributing to the category growth rate. So this positions us with two great portfolios to go after the modern energy category.
Okay, got it. how are you guys thinking about distribution is your is your preference to keep a lot in your view the you know ab network and have two major customers and maybe you don't do some of the inventory issues as you have before is the preference to consolidate it in um along with pepsi and then maybe is there any involvement about pepsi either financially or we're just we're just announcing today the transaction um you know it's uh it's got to go through customary closing procedures and regulatory approval uh we're expecting it to close sometime in the second
quarter um the abi abi network they're in is a great network and it's been an amazing partner for alani new um and we're really focused on the consumer and the customer right now uh and growing the respective businesses uh together your next question comes from the line of jim solera with Stevens, please go ahead.
Yes, good afternoon. Thanks for seconder questions. I wanted to maybe drill down on how you think Alani News is going to add incrementality and maybe offering a little bit more focus on the Celsius piece of the portfolio. And what I mean by that is if we look at the overall energy drink category growth, obviously the Celsius consumption growth and the Scanner Data has come down. Should we kind of expect the, you know, legacy Celsius brand to grow in line with the category and then Alani New to be kind of the incremental lift there? Or do you expect the Celsius brand to get back to above trend growth and then have the Alani New brand come over the top and kind of complement that as well?
Yeah, no, absolutely, Jim. I mean, If you look at the scanner data, we got off to a slow start in Q1 with timing of promotions versus what we're recycling last year and innovation. We have a robust innovation strategy with the Celsius portfolio in 2025 and really excited about it. You know, we feel really bullish, especially the way the portfolio is positioned with better for you, fitness, lifestyle, 50-50 mix, approximately male and female. We are well positioned to capitalize on the trends and health and the energy category and the category in 2024, tipping to greater than 50 percent of the category now is sugar free with a Celsius portfolio. We see great tailwinds to continue to drive that business forward in that portfolio. When we look at Alani and you look at where it is in its growth cycle and distribution, it's really about, you know, almost where Celsius was two years ago. So there's a lot of additional ACV to unlock, especially untapped in food service and also inconvenience. So there's a lot of opportunities with both brands, and both brands are going to be incremental to additional revenue growth and profitability.
Great, great. And then maybe if I could just sneak in one quick follow-up. There will be a lot of questions on the energy piece of Alani, but I know they also have, you know, kind of a powders and an rtd shake and a snacks or portion of the portfolio just any thoughts on on how you plan to kind of fit that in with with the broader portfolio that's energy centric well it really gives us both these brands together offer a better for you platform um there's a lot of opportunities especially with alani um expanding into adjacent categories and um you know i think that opens up scale.
Health and wellness continues to grow and become part of the daily lifestyle of all of our consumers. So it's incremental on a go-forward basis.
Great. Your next question comes from the line of Peter Grom with UBS. Please go ahead.
Thanks, operator. Good evening, everyone. So I wanted to ask them just maybe, you know, what to expect as we look after the spring here, just in terms of shelf recesses yeah i'd be curious you know can you just talk about what you're expecting for for kind of the core celsius brand um you know particularly as velocity trends have been a bit more challenged and then you know specifically do you have any visibility at this point in time around what you were expecting for shelf space games for alani new yeah with our uh the celsius portfolio coming up um we expect uh roughly around you know 15 to 20 percent expansion in distribution within our given retail, you know, sets coming out of NAX and expansion we're seeing in large format as well.
You're seeing a lot of grocery and large format lean in even heavier in energy. So we're really excited about that, where this category is evolving. The energy category, keep in mind, is getting to be a much larger portion of total LRB and the beverage categories and you're seeing the retailers in large format move into that space trying to take advantage of the consumers which are stocking up on 12 packs and variety packs you're seeing that now more and more the energy category is evolved from and is evolving from immediate impulse purchase to part of a daily lifestyle and daily routine and you know large formats taking advantage of that opportunity so about 15 to 20 percent we expect also improved placement within retailers is really key we're working on we got to get more cold placements we've got to continue to disrupt the path to purchase with our with celsius portfolio
and then alani is expecting pretty sizable distribution gains as we are entering through the reset season especially in the convenience channel your next question comes from the line of eric serrata with morgan stanley please go ahead good afternoon and congratulations on the deal A quick follow-up on the distribution side, does Pepsi have any right of first refusal for distributing other brands that you buy? And if, hypothetically, Alani were to change distribution networks, who would be responsible for the distributor buyouts? And then turning to the business, what was the change in Pepsi inventories in the quarter? And, you know, I guess what are your expectations as you look to the first quarter? Thank you.
Yeah, just a comment in regards to, you know, the distribution. Kind of answered that before. Right now, we're focused on closing this transaction. We're focused on servicing customers and retailers and suppliers. And, you know, that's our main focus right now. The companies are running separate until closing. But I'll let Jared comment on the inventory levels in the Q4.
Yeah, so it was between $8 million and $10 million in terms of the impact.
Your next question comes from the line of Gerald Pascarelli with Needham & Company. Please go ahead.
Thanks very much for the question. Congratulations on the deal. So, John, maybe a question just on the basis for the transaction. Essentially, like, how do you put the transaction in the context of the near-term slowdown that you've seen in your core portfolio? Like I said, another way, like, did the near-term slowdown expedite the process for you to get more aggressive with M&A and buying scale? Or is this something that, you know, you've you've always viewed as an attractive asset, have been contemplating for a while and, you know, decided now is the right time? I guess just some color on how the deal materialized would be would be helpful. Thank you.
Yeah, no. Great question. And we are extremely confident in the Celsius portfolio and leveraging the tailwinds we see in the energy category. We recognize we're off to a slow start. The innovation that we have planned for 2025, we're extremely excited about it. Um, and, uh, the, the, the, the portfolio continues to resonate with a broader consumer and, um, it's a great flavors, great innovation. The fitness lifestyle is strong and the Celsius portfolio is strong. The opportunity came up with Alani new. Um, it really is incremental to our, uh, our consumer base. Uh, when you look at it, we really admire what they built. Um, and when you're building scale, we are right now as a solid number three player in energy. And a combination of these two great brands together puts us at about approximately a 16% share in the energy category. We built an amazing company here. Mentioned in Q4, Jared talked about it in his prepared remarks about vertically integrating with our co-packers. We have synergies and opportunities. We're focused and disciplined to drive shareholder value, gain leverage through the systems and processes and infrastructure we've built.
And it's a natural fit for us your next question comes from the line of andrea taclera with jp morgan please go ahead uh thank you operator and and good afternoon everyone i just wanted to follow up on the most recent consumption trends for uh for celsius in particular and if you can comment also uh lenny um how have you attended so far in the quarter inter-quarter and when should we see improvement in terms of, like, velocity. I understand that, obviously, there is an offset from gaining distribution. And related to that, also, how has been the reception? I know you're lapping a very strong innovation, as you mentioned, but you also have, you know, a strong pipeline coming up. I understand that mainly the convenience stores were quite receptive from the fair that you're getting, you know, good reception for the new, for the innovation, but just wondering all these dynamics of distribution with Pepsi, how we should be seeing, you know, this improvement, if any, or should we expect that should be more evident in the second quarter for both, for both brands? Now, also a comment on Alani. Thank you.
Okay, excellent. A lot to unpack there. You know, in regards to the Celsius portfolio, like I said, we're confident in the Celsius portfolio. We have some weakness in Q1. We are cycling some pretty high hurdles from prior year with the launch of the essentials line. And it's some really strong innovation in Q1. We have an innovation packed back half and into the summer selling into the summer beverage season. We're excited about our innovation. We have some great properties we'll be leveraging and tentpole programs mentioned in the prepared remarks. There are a recent award we won at 7-Eleven. We're partnering with retailers. It's really a timing. And then the incrementality with Alani, it's going to be incremental and they're gaining distribution. They're resonating with a unique consumer segment in the energy category, which continues to get broader. Energy has gone mainstream. It's not as niche as it used to be. Health and wellness trends are here. We're actually presenting at Cagney tomorrow, and everyone's talking. All these consumer brands are talking about health, wellness, the growth of sugar-free. We have two of the greatest portfolios in beverage that are sugar-free and aligned with the health-minded consumer. So we're excited about where we're headed with this portfolio. It's a great combination.
Your next question comes from the line of Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
I had top of my list what you're going to do with your cash, but I think I'll skip that one now. And just maybe see if you could unpack the share trends from 24 a little bit. You obviously had some pressure sequentially over the course of the year. Not meant as an Alani question, but it certainly could be related. You know, any just diagnosis of where share was going or, you know, how to think about, you know, what really made some of those changes and how to best address it? And then maybe if you could also just give if I could ask a quick follow up on the subway news. You said that it will go to some of those outlets. Is it each franchisee's option or decision?
How do we think about how that might unfold? no great questions i you know when you think at um you know we really hit we started to see some challenges and the whole category was under challenge and um in q3 uh we were impacted when the category went negative for the really first time in many years uh within growth um we also saw really steep competition come in in the sugar-free category from some of the top players that are getting trial, but with our refreshing Celsius portfolio and a strength of our great ingredients and our positioning, the better for you, healthy halo, we feel we are well positioned for this category of all getting trial on new flavors. You know, consumers are getting, are trying new flavors that are out there. And you saw that with two of the top major players leaning heavily in sugar-free, but we have a sustained long-term loyal consumer. We have strategies to build upon that and it's going to come to fruition in 2025 with a great innovation portfolio that we have planned and some of our targeted marketing initiatives and also broadening our reach we're broadening some of the consumer segments that we're going after and targeting with our strategy of more people more places and more often your next question comes from the line of sean mcgowan with roth capital partners please go ahead thank you um i was wondering if you could uh yeah i mean
a great question around promotional activity the category is highly promotional i'll throw it over to jared to talk about some of the promotional activities yeah in terms of the leverage of the promotional activity with some of the the noise around timing from a from distributor orders we did see a little bit elevated call it contra revenue across 2024 versus 2023 and even 2022 we look to get that back on track next year we will have the incentive plan fully in place in q1 q2 q3 q4 was already baked in but you'll see a little bit of extra incentive in q1 and q2 because it was a phased in approach but we will also be benefiting from the full implementation of the program around things like inventory on display priority periods those kind of things like that so we look to that to get back kind of to the more normalized basis as it relates to gross profit um we are evaluating you know all the various things you know the tariffs are in the tariffs are out those kind of things we think we're somewhat um we're in good shape as it relates to a lot of the the pieces uh we don't think the aluminum from up north coming in would significantly impact us although there could be there could have some impact um you know and could that pull the the margin back a little bit um definitely you know i think we've shown this year the that we're pretty resilient in order to get that 50 on a full year basis so um although i prefer to be conservative and say you know could it be high 40s with the tariffs uh i think 50 is a is a solid number from that perspective and and then as it relates to alani new we'll look to talk more about kind of their margin profile when we get, you know, after we close. I think right now it's too early to really bake that in. There is some data on the investor deck that you can see kind of their profile leads from an EBITDA margin perspective and a revenue perspective. And when we're fully synergized, we'll look to be leveraging the business and look forward to be incremental from a margin perspective.
Your next question comes from the line of kevin grundy with bnt powerball please go ahead great uh thanks good evening guys and congrats on the deal um jared i wanted to pick up on that um line of questioning around around margins two-part question so just on the 50 million cost synergies maybe just identify key areas how much visibility you have is there any potential upside there and then under understanding you may want to be a little bit hesitant is there any reason at least in principle why the combined business your ebitda margins should not look something like monsters ebitda margins in the u.s so your thoughts there would be uh would be helpful and then i have a quick follow-up for john
thanks yeah like john said they're kind of 18 to 24 months behind us in terms of what our profile was where we are in our life cycle and where they are in their life cycle so we definitely see opportunity um to further leverage that business the synergies are hard costs in terms of um you know not just uh kind of picking a percentage of revenue or anything so we're looking at cogs we're looking at different um you know using our scale and some of uh our competitive purchasing power and then also specific to looking at um our sales force which we were 500 strong and really leveraging that our global supply chain where we have our global hq where we have kind of a supply
chain of procurement program etc that will really be able to drive savings so between those areas and then some back shop of course as well and then what was the second part kevin i'm sorry jared that was helpful if you uh i know there's a lot of folks on the call the quick one for john is You know, obviously a lot of deals fail, and so my question is really around you don't need to be redundant on the distribution piece. There's a little bit of wait and see, and, you know, maybe this comes out of the A-B system and into Pepsi. We'll see. But how do you limit integration risk as it pertains to this deal? What are you most concerned about? What would you share with investors in terms of managing that to ensure that this goes smoothly and there's no bumps in the road?
No, I mean, we're extremely focused on that, Kevin. And if you recall the way the company integrated into the Pepsi distribution system, we were really praised on how focused and strategic we were on that. We didn't really we didn't have any hiccups within retail. And I think the same rigor and discipline is going to be used on this integration. In addition, the founders are working with us on the integration and we'll be, as Jared mentioned, we'll be working on a transition agreement for two years, making sure the brands are fully integrated. We're driving the synergies and getting the success and maintaining these brands. So we feel very confident in the integration. And they also keep in mind they have stock in the company. So we're all aligned to make sure the integration is 100% successful, and we all have the same vision, disrupt the beverage category, drive the energy share, and make this an extremely successful company.
Your next question comes from Mark Sargent with Stiefel. Please go ahead.
Yeah, hey, thanks, everyone. I guess, you know, the one question that I've been getting that I'm trying to figure out is how do you maintain the momentum that Alani has had? If you take a look at their market share gains, you know, they've kind of doubled where they were at the start of the year. You know, maybe talk a bit about what has driven those share gains from a consumer perspective. You know, it seems from the outside in, maybe a little bit of those share gains have come at Celsius's expense. And so, you know, maybe talk about how you think about sustaining that consumer and what gives you confidence that, you know, spending what you are on this deal that you can keep those consumers kind of over the next several to many years.
Well, as we mentioned on the prepared remarks and then the prior questions, we are confident that the two portfolios combined will add strength in the category and that the Alani consumer is incremental to our total portfolio. You know, as as we know, the consumers in the energy category are loyal. The brand and Alani has a true identity and it's it's connecting in an emotional level with consumers. And this consumer segment of Gen Z female millennials is real. And it's demonstrated that over the years. There's a massive growth opportunity as the energy during consumer continues to broaden. The category has gone mainstream, and it's not just a male-dominant category. It is going after all consumers, all ages, and it's the modern day for the energy category. And we've built a modern portfolio to take advantage of the opportunities and the tailwinds we see.
Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Van Sinderen with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi, everyone. Let me add my congratulations. John, I wonder if you can tell us what the ACV of Alani is today, and also do they have any international penetration? And then if we can just switch to marketing for a minute this year, thinking about the Celsius brand, how you plan to broaden your reach with marketing, and then how might that change with Alani?
Yeah, in regards to the international opportunity, that's massive. you know they have a small amount of international distribution and when you're looking at you know the opportunities even with Celsius we just expanded internationally into UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand and France and we're just getting started in the first inning so both brands have a tremendous opportunities to capitalize on the growing health and wellness trends in the energy category which 2024 was approximately $90 billion and growing at an expected CAGR from 2024 to 2029 at 10%. So it's a really great category to be in, in both these brands' position to attract new consumers coming in and broaden the energy category overall. As I mentioned, it's gone mainstream.
Due to time constraints, that concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Celsius Chairman and CEO, John Fieldley, for closing remarks.
Thank you, operator. Thank you to everyone who joined us today on the webcast this afternoon. Celsius continues to grow the energy category with our great tasting, refreshing beverage that is on trend for today's consumers, shifting towards premium functional beverage and options and health and wellness and active lifestyles. Over the three growth drivers driving more people in more places more often, we will guide us to the future. And we now see further expansion with the opportunities of Alani New to double down in the category that we see leveraging the tailwinds. Make it a great day. Go grab a refreshing Celsius in Alani New, and let's live fit.
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