Greetings, and welcome to the Grocery Outlet First Quarter 2024 Earnings Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Christine Chen, VP of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Good afternoon and welcome to Grocery Outlet call to discuss financial results for the first quarter for the period ending March 30, 2024. Speaking from management on today's call will be RJ Sheedy, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Lindsay Gray, Interim Chief Financial Officer and SVP of Accounting. Following prepared remarks from RJ and Lindsay, we will open the call for questions. Please note that this conference call is being webcast live and a recording will be available via telephone playback on the Investor Relations section of the Company's website. Participants on this call may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. All statements that address future operating, financial, or business performance or the Company's strategies or expectations are forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. Description of these factors can be found in this afternoon's press release as well as the Company's periodic reports filed with the SEC, all of which may be found on the Investor Relations section of the Company's website or on sec.gov.

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We will be speaking to you today about our business results, progress, and ongoing impact of our systems transition, strategic growth initiatives, and outlook for 2024. Our sales and customer growth remained strong during the first quarter as we continued to deliver unbeatable value with an exciting treasure hunt experience. We're delivering continued increases in traffic and sales and our business fundamentals are healthy. Our low first quarter margins were the result of both expected and unexpected impacts from our systems transition. We've made good progress since our last call, resolving known issues and have ended the IO commission support program as planned. However, our results were incrementally impacted by unforeseen systems transition costs that surfaced at the end of the quarter. We're all very disappointed with our poor Q1 results and we are committed to getting these system impacts behind us very soon. Let me start with business performance and then comment on the systems transition. Our first quarter sales exceeded our expectations, increasing 7.4%, driven by a 3.9% increase in comparable store sales which accelerated throughout the quarter. Transaction count growth remains strong at 7%. Food inflation remains high, and we continue to deliver a compelling assortment of high-quality WOW! items that are driving traffic and sales growth. We opened six new stores in the quarter and recent vintage performance continues to ramp well and in line with expectations. First quarter gross margin of 29.3% was 110 basis points below our expectations and includes approximately 210 basis points of impact from our systems transition issues. In late August, we upgraded our product inventory, financial, and reporting platforms. This transition has disrupted our business operationally and financially over the past eight months, as we discussed on our last two calls. In February, there were two large remaining system issues impacting profit. One was related to warehouse product expiry data and the other related to store-level reporting. We have since resolved both of these, and the negative impact to first quarter gross margin came in as expected at about 100 basis points. We've reduced warehouse shrink close to normal levels with better data visibility and accurate store-level reporting enabled us to end the commission support program in March. Lindsay will speak later about some residual expense from the commission support program that will extend through the end of the second quarter. While we are encouraged by this progress, we are disappointed that we did not foresee the additional 110 basis points of margin impact. This was quantified during catch-up, invoice processing, and final margin reconciliation at the end of the quarter. Delayed payment processes during Q1, combined with poor data visibility contributed to this mess versus guidance. We are disappointed by this as it is below our performance and forecasting standards. We have recently improved our payables process in the new system and have also increased our data visibility. Both of these improvements will enable us to manage the business back to historical margin levels and forecast with the same consistency as we did before. We continue to work through remaining system functionality and performance enhancements under the leadership of our new COO, Ramesh Chikkala. He has already provided great expertise to help us accelerate progress since he joined in January. We also continue to bring on many additional new resources to increase our in-house SAP capabilities. This decreases our reliance on third-party consultants and builds our internal expertise to manage these systems going forward. The team continues to focus on optimizing systems for efficiencies, enhancing functionality, and improving visibility to operating data throughout the business. We are all frustrated by the size and duration of this disruption. It has been costly and our recent execution is well below our expectations. But this disruption is also temporary and fixable and we are on the right path forward. We have made a tremendous amount of progress since last year and we look forward to completing the work and seeing business results revert back to more normal levels very soon. Let me turn now to our healthy business fundamentals and growth initiatives. Recent customer surveys show that our brand awareness continues to increase and our net promoter score is near an all-time high. Customers are spending more of their dollars with us and they indicate a high intent to spend even more in the next 12 months. Customers are very satisfied with product selection, reflecting healthy inventory and variety across all regions. Furthermore, we are seeing increases in satisfaction and spend across all customer segments, with particular strength among middle to higher-income customers. The closeout buying environment remains very strong and we are seeing great availability of products across all categories. We are highly selective in our purchasing decisions as we buy only a fraction of the available product we are offered. And our growing size and scale make us an even better partner as we are able to take more variety and volume across a wider geography. We've also recently seen more opportunities as a result of $0.99 only entering Chapter 11 bankruptcy. We look forward to helping suppliers with surplus inventory challenges that were previously directed elsewhere. We recently held our annual supplier conference where we met with many of our key partners. Some attendees were longstanding relationships while others were newer to the GO family. During this meeting, we engaged in strategic conversations to identify new opportunities and to form more integrated partnerships. New suppliers that attended the conference represent a group of over 600 new relationships that we established last year. And we are on track to add a similar number this year as well. We came away from the conference very encouraged with the opportunities in front of us and how we can strengthen partnerships further to grow our shared business. Transitioning now to our stores, operators have been doing a great job selecting localized assortments and executing value merchandising to represent the WOW! shopping experience to their customers. They and their teams also engage with shoppers in a personalized way that is truly unique to this model. We see this resonating with strong results in customer count and sales growth. Year-to-date, operator income has increased, voluntary turnover levels remain low and interest in becoming an operator continues to be at an all-time high. Becoming an IO is a highly selective process as we accept less than 1% of interested candidates from our annual leads of over 30,000. Our selective recruiting process combined with a comprehensive training program continues to produce high-quality operators. We look forward to being together with all operators during our annual regional roadshow that starts this Friday and extends through all of next week. This is an opportunity to update them on business initiatives, hear their feedback and input, and strengthen the partnership that makes this business so unique. Turning now to store growth. Our new stores are opening ahead of schedule and are performing to plan. We opened six stores during the first quarter, increasing our store count to 474 locations at quarter end. We've opened six additional new stores so far in the second quarter and are positioned well for openings in the second half of the year. In addition, we completed the United Grocery Outlet acquisition on April 1, which added 40 stores across six new states. Given the health of our store opening schedule, we now expect to add 58 to 62 new stores this year, including UGO. The midpoint of this range represents store growth of 13% over last year. We remain in a strong position to deliver 10% new store growth in 2025. Our 2025 pipeline is robust and our organic real estate activities are now focused on building the 2026 and 2027 pipeline. We also continue to evaluate opportunistic real estate as a complement to our organic growth efforts. We successfully completed the UGO acquisition on April 1 and integration is proceeding well. Fully integrating the business and rebranding the stores will take time, but we are very encouraged by the progress so far. We have many levers to accelerate sales growth in partnership with the United Grocery Outlet team. Our near-term integration focus is on expanding the assortment, investing in store refreshes and new fixtures, and introducing some of our marketing programs to the Southeast region. We also look forward to leveraging the multi-temp distribution center to access more opportunistic products that can benefit both Grocery Outlet and UGO stores. Next, we completed the rollout of our personalization app to all Grocery Outlet stores during the first quarter. The app allows us to communicate our weekly deals to customers and customize their treasure hunt experience. We are encouraged by the initial customer response with over 400,000 total downloads so far and Q1 sales penetration of 6%. Over time we believe the app will create increased customer loyalty through greater engagement which will help drive trip frequency and share of wallet. Finally, we're very excited to be introducing our private label program to stores in the third quarter. As we have previously discussed, this is a program that we have been working on for the past year which we believe will become another key differentiator, providing even more value and excitement for our customers. The first items to hit the stores will be in the beverage and grocery categories. These initial products will be followed by additional items in both of these categories as well as within the dairy, household, and baking categories. In addition to better value and inventory consistency for our customers, these initial products will deliver better margin for Grocery Outlet and IOs. We remain on track to introduce approximately 100 new private-label SKUs by the end of the year. In closing, I remain very confident in our business fundamentals and our ability to realize our long-term growth potential. Our differentiated model and value proposition continue to be the drivers of our strong sales growth. We're a unique specialty discount retailer with a long history of consistently high top line sales growth. And our future growth algorithm remains intact. Our mission is touching lives for the better and the positive impact that we have on people increases as our business grows. We are aggressively pursuing the tremendous white space in front of us of operating over 4,000 stores in the U.S. and we look forward to introducing our brand to new communities as we expand. I want to thank our amazing IOs for their partnership and for delivering outstanding service and value to our customers. Thanks also to the entire GO team for their dedication and perseverance which enable us to support our IO partners and customers. I also want to say thank you to all Grocery Outlet partners and shareholders for their support and patience as we have worked through the system's transition. This is a great business and we are committed to getting results back on track to achieve our bright expectations for future growth. And now I would like to introduce you to Lindsay Gray, Interim CFO and SVP of Accounting to discuss our financials.

Thanks, RJ, and good afternoon, everyone. Our first quarter results reflect strong top line sales growth driven by a 7% increase in comp transactions. The integration of our new systems led to higher than anticipated costs, which impacted our margins leading to results below our expectations. Net sales increased 7.4% to $1.04 billion due to a 3.9% increase in comparable store sales. Comp transaction growth of 7% was partially offset by a 2.9% decline in our average basket. We opened six new stores during the quarter, ending with 474 locations. We remain pleased with the performance of new stores and store openings are tracking ahead of schedule. Our first quarter gross profit increased 1.1% to $303.9 million. Our gross margin rate of 29.3% was impacted by our system integration, which we estimate was approximately 210 basis points in the quarter, 110 basis points higher than we originally expected, as RJ previously discussed. SG&A expense increased 13.3% to $303.4 million compared to the first quarter of 2023. This includes $12.4 million from commission support that we elected to provide as a result of our system upgrades. It also includes increased depreciation and amortization expense and higher store occupancy costs related to new store growth. Net interest expense decreased 46.3% to $3.2 million, driven by a reduction in net borrowings versus the prior year. We recognized a tax benefit of $1.6 million during the quarter, a result of pretax book loss combined with excess tax benefits related to the exercise of stock options. GAAP net loss for the first quarter was $1 million or $0.01 per share. Adjusted EBITDA was $39.4 million for the quarter and our adjusted EBITDA margin was 3.8% of sales. Adjusted net income was $8.8 million for the quarter, or $0.09 per diluted share. Turning to our balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $66.9 million of cash. Inventory at the end of the quarter totaled $362.7 million. Total debt was $291 million at the end of the first quarter with net leverage less than one times adjusted EBITDA. Now on to guidance. Forecasting has been difficult during the system transition as we have not had good visibility to our normal business reporting and tools. Compounding this have been data integration issues and new processes that we and our operators are adapting to within new applications. Our guidance takes this into consideration as we complete final stages of our stabilization work. Our fiscal 2024 guidance continues to assume incremental sales of approximately $125 million, adjusted EBITDA of $7 million, and a modest benefit to adjusted EPS from the acquisition of UGO. For the full year, we are now projecting comp sales growth in the range of 3.5% to 4.5%, up from 3% to 4%, to reflect better-than-expected first-quarter sales. We expect comp growth in the second quarter to be approximately 3.2%, which reflects a 100 basis points Easter shift out of Q2 into Q1. We now expect to add a total of 58 to 62 net new stores this year, up from 55 to 60. This includes the 40 newly acquired United Grocery Outlet stores, as well as 18 to 22 new Grocery Outlet stores. In total, we continue to project fiscal 2024 net sales of $4.30 billion to $4.35 billion. For the full fiscal year, we now project gross margin of approximately 30.5%. We expect gross margin for the second quarter of approximately 30.0%, which includes an estimated 100 basis point impact from the system's transition. This is due to residual expense from our commission support program, as we finish store physical inventory counts in the second quarter. We expect gross margins to increase sequentially in the back half of the year. For the full fiscal year, we now expect adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $252 million to $260 million. We expect second-quarter adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 5.4%, which also includes some residual SG&A expense from the end of the commission support program. For the year, we now expect D&A to grow in the mid-20s on a percentage basis, reflecting an updated forecast for the impact of store growth, the United Grocery Outlet acquisition, and infrastructure reinvestments. We expect stock-based compensation of approximately $34 million. Net interest expense is anticipated to be approximately $21 million. We continue to forecast a normalized tax rate of 30%. We now expect average diluted shares outstanding of approximately $101 million, down from $102 million due to lower share count from share repurchases. We now expect CapEx, net of tenant allowances of approximately $175 million, reflecting higher new store growth and consistent investments in existing fleet upgrades, including anticipated UGO store capital improvements, as well as ongoing investments in technology, supply chain, and infrastructure. We now expect full-year adjusted EPS to be in the range of $0.89 to $0.95 per diluted share. In closing, I would like to take a moment to thank our incredible team of independent operators and employees for continuing their hard work and dedication to serving our customers. Our underlying business remains strong and we are well-positioned for long-term growth.

Our first question comes from Robby Ohmes with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Hi, good evening, everybody. My first question is, RJ, can you explain why we may not see similar occurrences in the second quarter? As you move through this quarter, what prevents us from having variances like what we experienced in the first quarter?

Sure. Yes. Hi, Robbie. First, let me say again that we're disappointed that we're still experiencing these issues. And to this extent, it was a big upgrade with a lot of learnings along the way and work continues. That said, we do continue to make good progress cleaning up many of the data integration issues we've been dealing with. We've been learning new processes as mentioned, and important to note that we've been bringing back critical reporting and visibility which led to some of the impact in the miss versus guidance in the first quarter. More recently, Ramesh has brought great leadership to the team. He's helping us be better organized with our cleanup efforts and approach. It's given us much better timelines and knowledge of the work remaining with the right plan to pursue it. So we feel good about the progress there. We've also been increasing third-party support where needed, as well as hiring more talent to the team. We've been adding our own SAP capabilities which has reduced our reliance on consultants in this area. All of this to just give us better control together with the progress that we've made. We're in a better place now than we were a couple of months ago. So feel good about that and feel like we are and we have our arms around where we are and still what's in front of us. I'll also mention just too in terms of the work that we're focused on right now, three primary areas. One is continuing to bring more operating data and metrics back online to help us manage the business. The second one is optimizing the system for improved functionality. And then the third area is improving the system for process efficiencies. And so again, while we're disappointed by the size and duration of the impact, it is temporary, it is fixable. We fixed a lot, and we're aware of the work that's remaining. And as far as the guidance goes, as Lindsay said, forecasting has clearly been difficult due to more limited visibility. The good news is that we have brought back visibility to help us better manage the business and better forecast. And all of that considered, we're trying to be, and we are being, we believe prudent with our updated guidance. In terms of Q2 and then for the year, we think it accurately reflects where we are right now, what's in front of us, while also taking into consideration some recent variations that we've seen relative to expectations. And underlying, just maybe the last comment here, important to say that, we continue to be really pleased with business fundamentals. They are healthy, we're seeing great top line growth. Our new systems, while still impacting us on the P&L, they are supporting daily business operations well. And we're also pleased that we've been able to make great progress on some of our long-term initiatives. So all of that sets us up well, not just for this year, but for growth as we look forward.

Thanks. That's helpful. And my follow-up, RJ, I think you mentioned IO interest kind of being at all-time highs. Why is that? Is it something in the environment? And there has been no sort of loss of confidence related to the systems disruptions on the IO pipeline?

Speaking first to just where IOs are relative to the systems, I'd say, they're very encouraged to have store-level reporting back, which has enabled them to manage the business as they did before. We're all happy that the improvements have allowed us to come off of the protection program. So that's good for them and for us. They're starting to see the benefits of the system. Now that we've stabilized a lot of it compared to what we had before, that's a positive. And then, as we do continue to work to bring back data visibility along with functionality, along with efficiencies as well, they'll enjoy even more of those benefits. So all of that is feeling really good to them. We've been in close communication with them throughout, and the partnership is strong. I think it's made the partnership even stronger, what we've been through and worked through together. So that's where they are in terms of the systems. In terms of just interest in the business and on the recruiting side and where the pipeline stands, I'd say it's the same things that have always attracted people to this model. They have the opportunity to own and operate their own business. Many of them are working together side-by-side with family, as the partnership is, and oftentimes extended family, helping them, working in the store. The independence is a big part of why they come here. They get to order their own product, they get to merchandise it how they see fit. They cater to the needs of their local customer. They love that. They love the opportunity to give back. It's a big part of our mission and resonates strongly with operators coming in. And of course, there's financial upside as well. There's no cap to the commission. And as they grow their sales and manage margin in their stores, they get to enjoy in that, along with the benefit that it has to the business. And so all of those things they understand, and those that have been part of the recruiting process have understood some of the system challenges. They view it similarly to us and existing operators as temporary in nature. And we are getting past it, and they think about the long-term growth potential of this business and all of the attributes that come with being an operator, which continue to be really attractive.

Got it. Thanks so much.

The next question comes from Krisztina Katai with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed.

Hi. Good afternoon, and thanks for taking the question. So I wanted to follow up on the system conversion issues that you experienced and just ask if in particular what is still negatively impacting you as we sit here in the second quarter. And RJ, I think you said the Grocery Outlet will return to more normalized operations. I think the word said was very soon. So how best to think about the timeline for this to be fully behind us? And do you still think the gross margin can reach 31% or higher once these issues are behind us?

Yes. Let me first address the residual impact cost in the second quarter and then I will discuss the longer-term outlook. We resolved store-level reporting in March, which allowed us to end the commission protection program going forward. It’s important to understand that store margins and IO commissions are determined during physical inventory counts, which typically occur three to four times per year for each store. The residual cost we are discussing in the second quarter relates to certain margin and commission elements that can only be calculated after a full inventory period is completed. Those counts are currently underway and will be finished for all stores in June. This is reflected in the 100 basis points lower margin we mentioned as a residual cost for the second quarter. It also affects our guidance for slightly higher commission in SG&A for commissions that will be paid in the second quarter. It's essential to note that this is time-bound and specific to the physical inventory count schedules. We are not needing to fix something that still isn't working in the system, as that issue has been resolved. It's merely residual and linked to the physical counts and how margin and commission are calculated. That explains the ongoing costs in Q2. Regarding our belief in the underlying health of gross margin, I can tell you that the product margin pressure we’ve experienced is entirely due to system transition issues, particularly data visibility, which has made it harder to manage margins for both us and the operators. We've quantified these different issues, and the underlying health of the margin is intact. We're seeing a strong list of deals, and opportunistic supply remains healthy. We're effectively managing the everyday upside of the business. As we move past the impact in the second quarter, we believe we will return to more normalized margins in the third and fourth quarters, as reflected in our guidance for the year. You can calculate the margin expectations for the second half and see that we anticipate a return to healthier levels.

Got it. And just as a follow-up also I guess regarding gross margins, but you mentioned that $0.99 only is liquidating and they were certainly a large part of the secondary sourcing market. Just love to get your thoughts on how you think about the benefits that Grocery Outlet can see to further capitalize on the favorable buying environment. And do you foresee any potential gross margin benefits as a result of this in the medium to long term? Thank you.

Thanks, Krisztina. In regards to $0.99 only, yes we do, and we have already started to see some benefit there. As I mentioned in my comments, we've seen product come our way that was previously directed to them, and that we do expect that to be ongoing as they were a notable participant in the space for opportunistic product. And so we're excited about helping suppliers with the opportunities there, where they previously would have sold to $0.99 only. So that helps us of course with offering great value to customers as it relates to opportunistic product. We enjoy healthy margins there and helps the assortment overall. So we're excited for that. I'll also mention just while we're on this topic, we see some potential real estate opportunities here as well. So we are looking at some of the real estate that's come available from the $0.99 only situation to see if there is any there that can fit our real estate portfolio. We're mindful of the growth rate next year and other components that go into growth that we've talked about in the past. But we do want to take advantage of good real estate opportunities as they're available there, as they're going through that process. So we look forward to anything that might come there. And then last, I'd say, it's a good opportunity to attract customers to Grocery Outlet. We do have some overlap with them. It's a different shop, but we have overlap with them. And certainly so in markets where stores are in close proximity, and so we've been doing some work to target those customers to help them look to save money with us, where previously they may have been shopping with $0.99 only, potentially store operators as well, store employees for operators. And so we think there are a number of areas where we could benefit from those stores closing.

Thank you. Best of luck.

The next question comes from Oliver Chen with TD Cowen. Please proceed.

What happened with respect to customer impact? And how have you been managing that process as well? And also, I'd love your thoughts on pricing in terms of a private label opportunity, our pricing trends that you're seeing, we're seeing a lot of bifurcation across those sectors with pricing at other retailers as well. Thank you.

Hi, Oliver, thanks for the questions. In terms of customer impact, it was really minimal in the first quarter, came in below our expectations. We talked before about 50 basis points in potential impact to Q1 comps. We think it came in well below that. Inventory has been healthy, variety is healthy. As far as the ongoing impacts of the systems go, really not impacting the customer experience. I mentioned that it's supporting daily operations well. And so we don't see it really in the customer experience or in the comps that were part of our Q1 results. So we feel good about that. To your question around pricing and value, always paying close attention to value. We're managing pricing accordingly to what competitors are doing. The promotional environment remains very rational. It's increased a little bit, but nothing that we haven't seen before we're offering great value. We see it in results from customer surveys and satisfaction levels. We're certainly seeing it in traffic trends and overall top line growth. So we feel good about that. And then you mentioned private label, we're really excited about introducing private label in the third quarter of this year. As I've mentioned before, private label will be an enhancement to our everyday assortment in a couple of different ways. One is value. Always think about value first. These items will provide better value for customers relative to items that they may be replacing. And that is the case with some of them. Other items that we're introducing are new adds to the assortment and better value certainly to what they might be paying elsewhere. And we also think about better margin for the business, that's for operators, and for Grocery Outlet. We share that with commissions. And so we look forward to introducing a few items, we talked about categories, grocery, and beverage. We're starting there and then getting into some additional categories, dairy, household, and baking. The value that these items provide. And then lastly, I'd say, another point of differentiation, many of these items, well, they'll all be unique to us, but many of them will be more unique items, whether in the NOSH space, different formulations, new ads to the shop that create another reason for customers to shop our stores beyond just the value that they provide.

Thank you. A follow-up, we know you've made a lot of progress on the mobile app. Just any thoughts there in terms of engagement and transactions? And the other question we've been getting is around labor costs. And given that we're in a pretty tight labor market as well. Are there any things we should know in terms of modeling that and/or independent operators and their margins? Thank you.

We successfully completed the rollout to all remaining stores. That was back in the middle of the second quarter. It included all of California and Nevada that was the group that was remaining. So that all went well. We're really pleased with customer adoption and feedback so far. I mentioned over 400,000 downloads and 6% of sales on track with what we expected, and we expect it to continue to grow from here. So the engagement is really strong. And then, of course, as customers continue to use the app on their shopping trips, it will give us valuable data and it will increase engagement further still as we'll be able to message more specifically to who they are and the items that they're buying. So we're off and running there and look forward to all the benefits that we'll provide. And then as far as continued cost pressures go with operators, yes, wages operating costs continue. Operators continue to be very resilient and resourceful about how they're managing this. We manage it in partnership with them. We have been growing the top line. We've had some margin pressures here recently. We've protected operators from that. So their income has grown year-over-year. And then we continue to prioritize work to help them be more efficient and help them grow their profit, along with how we manage and think about profit growth on our P&L.

Thank you. Best regards.

Thanks, Oliver.

Once again, as a reminder, we ask that you ask one question. Our next question comes from Mark Carden with UBS. Please proceed.

Good afternoon. Thanks so much for taking the questions. So digging into the store growth acceleration a bit. This is the first time we've seen an intra-year tick-up in quite a while. Is it being driven by fewer building headwinds? Are you seeing more opportunistic locations than you might have originally anticipated? Just assuming it's a bit early for the $0.99-only locations. So just want to dig in a bit more on what drove that decision.

Hi, Mark. For this year, think of it as just management of the process. We've been able to get stores opened a little bit earlier than anticipated. On that schedule, the construction team is operating really well. We've talked a lot over the past couple of years about some of the challenges and the adjustments that we've made. And so I'd say that those things are operating smoothly for how we've adapted the resources that we brought in and how we're managing the process overall. That in parallel with the ongoing work of recruiting and training our operators to be ready, that's important too, to make sure that they're ready to take those stores. And so because we are managing the process as well as we are, we're taking advantage of some of those opportunities and have therefore then increased guidance for the year. It doesn't reflect the opportunities that are in front of us. You know, certainly not $0.99. You know, you think about that as a 2025 opportunity, and we continue to look at other lists as well. And so we love where we're at in terms of the pipeline, certainly what's happening this year, pipeline for next year, '26, '27, coming together really well. And again, for us, just trying to be mindful of the rate of growth and make sure that we've got all the right pieces in place. We're investing in the infrastructure ahead of growth so that when we do open these stores, we open them successfully.

Great. Thanks so much. I'll pass it along.

The next question comes from Corey Tarlowe with Jefferies. Please proceed.

Great. Thank you. RJ, it sounded like in response to a prior question that it was your expectation that you're returning to a more normalized margin in the back half. Along with that, is it also the expectation that these systems implementation issues should be resolved by the end of the second quarter, or is it that the financial impact from these issues is resolved yet the implementation is still likely to be ongoing? Is there any way to dimensionalize the timing and duration of the remaining tasks that you have left, and as well as the impact of those issues?

We believe the significant impact will primarily occur in the second quarter, with some potential spillover into the latter half of the year. We are being cautious in our guidance as we consider the transition from Q2 to Q3 and Q4. The crucial financial effects will mainly be confined to the second quarter. We will continue our efforts beyond this period to enhance system operations, visibility, functionality, and efficiencies, and this ongoing work is intended to maximize the benefits we aimed to achieve with these new systems. However, regarding the financial impact, there are residual costs from the commission program that will be resolved by the end of the second quarter, with only minimal effects likely in the second half of the year. All these factors are already accounted for in our guidance, and they do not alter our understanding of our current position and the work still ahead.

Thank you. It's very helpful. I just had one follow-up on the comp. Is there any way to dimensionalize traffic versus ticket for what you saw in the quarter?

Hi, Corey. This is Lindsay. So traffic versus ticket, so traffic was up 7%, ring was down 2.9% year-over-year due to lower units. But we're really pleased that comps continue to be driven by these strong transactions. Absolute inflation remains high and so the customers are still prioritizing value. So we're seeing both new and existing customer increases with pretty high satisfaction, minimal system impact to comps. So really encouraged by the strong transactions, yes, ring was down 2.9% due to lower units, both from higher trip frequency and moderating inflation.

Great. Thank you so much.

Thanks, Corey.

The next question comes from Joe Feldman with Telsey Advisory. Please proceed.

Good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate you taking my question. I wanted to inquire about SNAP and its effect on your business, if any. If I remember correctly, it constitutes about 10% of your sales. Given your significant presence in California, where they recently ended some benefits, how do you view the situation moving forward? Will this affect your spending in any way? Thank you.

Yes. Hi, Joe. This is Lindsay. I'll take the question. So, yes, so we did see an impact from EBT in Q1, but consistent with our expectations. So we've seen that EBT reduction, but it really is just a migration to other tender types. EBT for us is really just a tender type. Our EBT today is back to about pre-COVID levels. So our model, we believe it just really much appeals to that value-minded customer. So even as we've seen the EBT benefits drop, it does add cumulative pressure to these consumers to stretch their dollars. So we don't see them leaving our stores, it's really just a change out of their tender type. So some of it does have an immediate impact on traffic. Some of it takes time, but we really feel good looking at all the trips we're driving into the store when you look at our traffic numbers.

Got it. Thank you, guys. Good luck with the quarter.

Thanks, Joe.

Thank you.

The next question comes from John Heinbockel with Guggenheim. Please proceed.

Hi, RJ. I have two questions—one quick and one more strategic. First, regarding the physical items, how does that connect to a product that is out of code? Does that mean it needs to be discarded rather than considered shrink? I’m not sure if you are observing any shrink issues. My strategic question is about the role of private brands. You initially mentioned 100 items; do you have a target number in mind? How do you see the relationship between private brands and the treasure hunt concept? If you keep the items separate, there won’t be any impact, and I assume you'll aim to minimize overlap between the two.

Hi, John. When considering physical inventories, it's important to think about margin in relation to store inventory management, which is reflected in the physical inventories we take. There is shrink involved, but prior to fixing the reporting in March, there were also other factors affecting margin, such as markdowns, price adjustments, and throwaways, which appear in the residual cost. Moving forward, everything is being recorded properly in the system, with commissions being either full or split 50-50. Regarding your question about private brands and treasure hunt, we believe private brands can enhance the treasure hunt experience. Some items in our planned private-label assortment will be more commodity-focused, available in stores consistently, and will provide better value, maintaining high quality. This enhancement is significant. We also plan to incorporate a treasure hunt element into the private label assortment, utilizing various seasonal products that will be available as seasons change. Additionally, on a regular basis, we anticipate integrating the treasure hunt aspect into the assortment, cycling in and out of items to create a sense of newness and excitement within private label, similar to what exists with branded products from an opportunistic perspective.

Thank you.

Thanks, John.

The next question comes from Jeremy Hamblin with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed.

Thanks for taking the questions. Sorry, but I want to come back to the commission support and what the range of impact is in Q2. I wasn't sure if that was the $12.4 million is what you're embedded in your guidance. That's part one. Part two is just the cumulative effect over the course now of four quarters, which I think sounds like it's more than $50 million. But wanted to see if you could quantify the cumulative effect of kind of the systems update issues. And then lastly, related to this is, if you're looking for physicals inventories, it's kind of completing the process here and adjustments. Is there a risk that, when that comes back by the end of June, that it could be worse than what you had embedded here in your guidance?

Yes. Hi, Jeremy. This is Lindsay, I can take those questions. So first, your question on commission support, so happy to quantify those. So the impact overall for Q1 for us, for these system issues was approximately $24 million, and about half of that is commission support for our operators. That's the $12.4 million that we mentioned earlier. For Q2 for our guide, we're estimating about a $9 million impact from the systems transitions overall. And about, again, half of that will be this kind of trailing off of commission support. Now that margin protection has ended, now that operator protection has ended. Overall, and we've quantified this over the last few quarters, overall, the impact that the systems transition has had on us is about $65 million. And about half of that is the operator commission support.

And the physical inventories?

Yep. And then the physical inventory question that you had. So we track these daily as they're taking place and we're monitoring the results every day. And so our forecast for the commission support in Q2, we feel is pretty good estimate just because we're tracking these daily and we're keeping on top of the results we're seeing coming in from the stores. So we feel pretty good about the numbers that we baked into the Q2 guide.

Got it. Thanks for the color. Best wishes.

Thank you.

Thanks, Jeremy.

The next question comes from Leah Jordan with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

I just wanted to see if you could help us understand why your comp guide is going up but your net sales guide is staying the same. Is this just a knock-on impact from the UGO stores or is there any change in your expectation for new store performance?

Hi Leah, this is Lindsay. So it's truly just due to rounding, nothing that's changed within our guidance.

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. And then I just wanted to go back to the IO pipeline discussion. It sounds like things are tracking for your new store growth to get back to 10% in '25. That'll be a big step up on new stores, plus you have the transition of the UGO stores as well. So just a bigger step up in IO needs next year. And given the timeline with the training that they need, have all of the IOs been selected at this point, where are you in that process? And any color on the background and quality of those would be helpful as well.

Yes, Leah, we are aware that not all have been selected yet. The lead time for recruiting and training new operators is approximately a year, though it can vary—shorter in some situations and longer in others. We manage this alongside our real estate pipeline, ensuring we maintain a healthy growth rate. We are cautious about not expanding too quickly, especially because of the operator pipeline, and we focus on bringing in qualified individuals to run our stores. We are well-positioned for next year, continuing recruitment for the stores we intend to open and any opportunistic openings that may enhance the current pipeline. We still have time to prepare for this. Regarding the quality of incoming operators, it plays a crucial role in both the recruiting and training process. It's vital to attract high-caliber operators and ensure they are set up for success. Our multistep recruiting process is rigorous, and we must confirm that individuals are the right fit for both them and us. Additionally, not everyone who enters training successfully completes it, leading to a healthy level of attrition. This is vital to ascertain that the fit and necessary capabilities are indeed present. Once they are ready to apply for a store, selecting the right match for the store and the community is the third critical filter. This ensures that the operator's preferences regarding living arrangements and the type of store align with our offerings, as we operate in various market types.

Very helpful. Thank you.

Thanks, Leah.

The next question comes from Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with the question.

Hi, everyone. Also a follow-up on the gross margin and the systems issues. The prior quarters' gross margin went up a bunch, and now there is this give back. You were still going through integration and systems issues while the gross went up. What was discovered or new in this period that was different from the prior? And then besides obviously the cost of inventory being higher, was there any other costs that are being run through gross margin that are run through gross margin that are not explicit product cost? There is other labor that's tied to it.

Hi, Simeon. In the first quarter, we identified an additional impact of 110 basis points towards the end of the quarter, which was determined during our catch-up invoice processing and margin reconciliation. We experienced some delays in payment processes due to the new systems, but the primary issue was limited data visibility in managing and forecasting margin. This was more significant in the first quarter compared to the fourth quarter due to the extended period of operating with restricted data. Last year, while implementing the new systems, we had inventory already in place, which continued to affect the margin reported last quarter. As a data-driven organization, margin visibility is crucial for our model. We regularly negotiate costs, set prices, manage gross margins, and balance retail prices with value margins, making considerations about how much to buy relative to other products in our assortment. This dynamic approach to margin management is a key strength of our business. It has allowed us to consistently achieve strong margins, which we've highlighted as a unique aspect of our capability to maintain healthy margins during inflationary periods. Consequently, data and tools are essential for our decision-making processes, both for us and for store operators who also rely on data to manage margins effectively. However, in the first quarter, we lost track of margin trends due to limited visibility until recently. The positive news is that once we pinpointed our situation, we have already started recovering. We are now managing margins more effectively at the sub-class and department levels, finding the right balance between value and margin thanks to improved weekly information that was previously limited. Overall, our fundamentals in buying remain strong, and this is about returning to our established margin management practices, aided by the increased visibility we now have.

Sorry, I was just going to answer the second part of your question, just other costs and gross margin. So gross margin, as we've always had, includes product costs and all the costs that we incur to get product to the store. So that's always included distribution costs as well.

But there is no impact on the margin pressures here. They have been specific to the system issues. There are other costs that are higher than some of these other components.

Right. And RJ, knowing it takes some time to recover, but you mentioned the buying fundamentals are healthy. The prior several quarters we saw a step-up in gross margin from the prior run rate to that. I know you were asked this earlier, where did the gross margin settle out? Does it settle out to where we were running in 2023, or does it settle out to the pre-'23 run rate before we had the system issues?

Yes. When you look at our guidance, you'll see in the back half of the year, it's in between, which is to say the beginning of 2023 in the second quarter, in particular last year was really a historical high point for us. We talked about that at the time. So we do expect margin in the second half to be at a nice healthy rate, again to increase sequentially from the number that we've guided to in the second quarter and then increasing from there at a healthy rate and above historical averages. That's not at the same level that it was in the second quarter. Again, that was particularly high and the highest we've seen in a really, really long time.

Thank you.

Thanks, Simeon.

Thank you. At this time, I would like to turn the call back to management for closing comments.

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