Operator
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for sending me by. Welcome to Liberty Global's Second Quarter 2026 Investor Call. This call and the associated webcast are the property of Liberty Global in any redistribution, retransmission, or re-podcast of this call or webcast in any form without the express written consent of Liberty Global is strictly prohibited. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Today's formal presentation materials can be found under the Investor Relations section of Liberty Global's website at libertyglobals.com. After today's formal presentation, instructions will be given for our question-and-answer session. Page 2 of the slides details the company's safe harbor statement regarding forward-looking statements. Today's presentation may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including the company's expectations with respect to its outlook and future gross prospects and other information and statements that are not historical fact. These forward-looking statements involve certain risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by these statements. These risks include those detailed in Liberty Global's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its most recently filed Forms 10Q and 10K as amended. Liberty Global disclaims any obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements to reflect any change in its expectations or in the conditions on which any such statement is based. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Mike Freese.
All right. Welcome, everyone. Thanks for joining us. We've got plenty to share with you today, so I'm just going to jump right in and then hand it over to Charlie. Of course, I've got the whole team here with me, so get your questions ready. And we are speaking from slides today. I'm going to kick it off on slide five. I'd really like to start with this graphic. I think it demonstrates pretty clearly how we operate, how we allocate capital, and how we create value at Liberty Global. Our story is, of course, anchored by world-class telecom assets in Europe that generate $22 billion in revenue and $8 billion in dividend on the aggregate. And while each of these markets has its own unique operating characteristics, Europe as a whole, in my opinion, is catching a bit of a tailwind, right? Deregulation, sovereignty, the benefits of AI, they're colliding to change the narrative and I think will benefit from those trends. Now, you know what I'm going to say next. Despite the size and scale and growth prospects of our businesses, we believe our stock today reflects no value for these assets. And I'll show you how I get to that conclusion in a moment. That belief is what is driving us to unlock the intrinsic value of our telecom businesses. And fortunately for us, unlike many of our peers, we're lucky to have both the financial and structural flexibility to achieve transactions like the spin-off of Sunrise, which by any measure created meaningful value for all of us. And as we'll discuss in a moment, we're making outstanding progress on our plans to do the exact same thing in the Benelux with the Zygo Group next year. At the same time, as we reshape Liberty Global, we have pivoted resources towards our Liberty Growth portfolio, where we have demonstrated again and again our ability to create significant value in media, sports, infrastructure, and tech. The recent sale of our stake in Edge Connects, which we talk about in this press release and in these slides, where we took out three quarters of a billion dollars, four times our investment over about 10 years is just the latest example of that. And finally, we have reshaped our corporate or central structure to be both more agile, more efficient, and more focused on these two core platforms. As a reminder, we are generating today hundreds of millions of annual revenue into Liberty Global, the corporate group from tech, financial, and management services that we provide to both our telecom and growth operating companies. And when you factor in the recent restructuring of our operating model and reduction of our headcount, we've effectively brought down our net corporate costs by nearly 75% over the last two years. And we believe we're on our way to a break-even position as early as next year. So that's the broad picture. So let me jump into the three key highlights I think are most critical for you to know about this quarter. That's on the next slide. Number one, it was a strong quarter commercially, and particularly in the Netherlands, where Vodafone Zigo continues to execute brilliantly, in fact, on its turnaround plan. This was our best consumer broadband performance in six years. I'll talk about that. And as Charlie will outline, we're confirming all of our 2026 guidance across the board. Second, our plan to spin off the newly formed Zigo Group, which, of course, consists of our Dutch and Belgian operations, is right on track. I'll go through this in some detail, but importantly, our fiber sharing arrangement with Proximus that will result in a single fixed network across 75% of Flanders was approved by the Belgian regulator yesterday. This is a big milestone for both our operational and Balanchine initiatives in this market. And I'm pleased to report that we will be closing on the acquisition of Vodafone and their 50% interest in the Dutch business at the end of this month. And lastly, we have, the only way to describe it, overachieved in our plans to monetize assets and generate cash from our Liberty Growth portfolio. Year-to-date, we've raised $1.2 billion, well in excess of what we might have indicated, including $900 million from disposals of Liberty Growth and $340 million from an asset-backed loan on our wire stake in Belgium. I think it's important to point out that this $1.2 billion is above and beyond the 1.2 to 1.4 billion euros we intend to raise from asset sales in Belgium and Holland to reduce debt in those markets. As a result, we're increasing our year-end corporate cash forecast. So, we'll form up for the Vodafone acquisition from $1.5 billion to $2 billion. So, essentially, we will end the year exactly where we started the year from a cash point of view. Now, the next slide goes deeper. on our announced plans to spin off the newly formed ZIGO Group. The key takeaway here is that we are making substantial progress on all the key building blocks required to achieve this major milestone for shareholders. You'll see on the left side where we are on the three strategic and financial pillars that underpin the listing of ZIGO Group and the tangible progress we've made across each of them. As I mentioned, we have all the approvals we need and are on track to close on Vodafone's 50% stake in the Netherlands by the end of the month. This is obviously foundational for the creation of the Zygo Group, and it unlocks multiple other benefits, including the realization of financial and cross-market synergies. The completion of our Netco-ServeCo split in Belgium into wire and Telenet was another landmark achievement. This gave us four key things, right? A fully financed fiber build-out that is off the Zygo Group balance sheet. Secondly, the rationalization of the fiber market in Flanders through our cooperation agreement with Proximus I just referenced. Third, the opportunity to raise capital and reduce debt through the sale of a portion of our wire stake. And the rebalancing of debt between wire and telanet, which will result in a less levered telanet with a declining CapEx profile that goes into our ZIGO Group structure. And then finally, we've of course announced Steven Van Rooy as the CEO of ZIGO Group and Yanni Frutier as the incoming CFO. And you should know we are making significant progress to round out the balance of the team, which we'll let you know about in September. Final piece of good news here, we have already increased, in our own minds, we haven't publicly increased it, but internally increased our estimate of the synergies from this transaction and expect to be meaningfully higher than the 1 billion NPV we announced previously. So stay tuned for more details on that. As a result of this progress, we are a bit more ambitious on the timing of the spinoff, and we're currently saying mid-27 versus H2.27. Now let's see how things transpire here. Could be even faster, let's see. And as we said in the past, the equity story is built around two things, reducing leverage to four and a half times and driving free cash flow to 500 million euro in the 2028 time frame. The bridge to 500 million of free cash we talked about on our last call. And of course, the deleveraging is further supported by asset sales of the 1.2 to 1.4 billion euro that I just mentioned, all of which are underway and we're making substantial progress on and you'll probably learn about before our next call. Now, the right-hand side of the slide is the money shop here, as they say. So I'll take a moment to walk through these valuation metrics. They break down into three main components. On the bottom right, you'll see our current stock price, roughly $11 in the orange bar. We believe this represents a 20% discount to the fair market value of our cash and our liberty growth assets alone. And those are valued by independent appraisers, of course. Perhaps even more importantly, you know what I'm going to say here, implies essentially zero equity value attributed to our Liberty Telecom operations. Now, we don't need to debate that conclusion. Everyone, some of the parts may look a bit different. It's not the main point of this slide. Moving up the scale, about 19 months ago, we spun off Sunrise, which we now believe represents $12 for Liberty Global Share. That's the red bar. Sunrise, as you know, is traded on the Swiss Exchange between around 10.5% and 13.5% free cash flow yield, or roughly eight times EBITDA, and has really unlocked substantial value. And we believe over time, on a fully distributed basis, The Ziggler Group itself should trade on the Euronext at a value of up to $14 for Liberty Share. Assuming your reach can confidently guide towards the $500 million free cash flow target and the 4.5 times leverage, and the market applies similar free cash flow yields to Summary. So that's what we're playing for here. It means that from an $18 stock, when we announce the Summary spin-off, we have a clear opportunity to create $37 to $40 of value for shareholders. And you should assume we are squarely focused on just that, delivering that value, and we're making great progress on that goal every day. Now, our confidence in that goal, or the ZIGO Group, is bolstered, of course, by the great turnaround story at Vodafone ZIGO, which we highlight on the next slide. Since you're just going to go right to the chart on the right-hand side of that slide, you can see in the second quarter last year, 2025, we lost 26,000 broadband subs and 5,000 mobile subs. And quite frankly, that was after quite a long period of declining performance. through a combination of commercial strategies, including new pricing structures, new broadband bundles, new converged propositions, new premium sports content, and importantly, a strong campaign growing in the quality of our broadband network. Stephen and the team have delivered quarter after quarter of improved results since then, culminating in our first positive broadband quarter in Q2 since, I think, Q4 2022, and as I said, the best performance in six years. And that goes along with 32,000 new post-paid mobile subs, so great progress on the operating performance there. The next slide shows you that performance, and I've just discussed it, so I'll just jump to the ARPU stats here for Vodafone Zigo. Fixed ARPU was stable, both sequentially and year-over-year, around €56, and that's despite new front book pricing, and can attribute that to both price indexation and some moves around content. We saw more or less the same outcome in mobile ARPUs, which were largely flat sequentially at €17.60, and down 2% year-over-year. On the bottom, you'll see operating results for Telenet in Belgium, which continued its recent commercial turnaround with improved broadband and mobile net ads versus last year. There's lots of commercial drivers at work here, including new campaigns promoting on base brand and a revamped FMC offering allowing customers to tailor really their own packages like an a la carte menu, which is well received. And broadband mobile ARPs are both up sequentially in Belgium and stable year over year. Now, moving to the UK, before I jump into the operating results for VMO2, let me just spend a minute highlighting where we see this business today and the core drivers of value tomorrow. First of all, it's important to remember that Virgin Media O2 is the only scaled challenger in the UK, one of Europe's largest markets, with the number one mobile network by Connections and the number two and most reliable broadband network, according to recently released research, which we agree with. By the way, our fixed network currently reaches just under 19 million homes, nearly half of which are already fiber today. Now, you can add to that incredibly strong brands like Virgin Media, O2, GiftGap, which support over 10 billion pounds of revenue, annual revenue, and facilitate regularly the launch of new services like O2 Satellite, which we were the first to do, or broadband with GiftGap, or Volt, our new FMC product, and a host of other commercial initiatives. So that's a strong foundation that we have in the U.K. Now, as we speak, about every quarter, this is a highly competitive market. It's becoming a street fight in the consumer retail sector, particularly with alt nets and MVNOs, which means we have to continue getting sharper, becoming more agile and more innovative. And I like the moves we're making to achieve that. I've listed just a few of them on the right-hand side here. First and foremost, we've just hired Lisa McGowan, our new CEO of Consumer, and has the entire consumer division reporting to her. She spent 10 years at Sky launching broadband, mobile, and SkyGlass, and in two weeks is already making a difference in our commercial strategy. So stay tuned for her keen eye and her strategic perspective on our consumer business. We have great potential in wholesale, first in mobile, where we generate today over $800 million of extremely profitable revenue, and we'll shortly launch Monzo to our list of MVNO customers, and in fixed wholesale, where we are striving every day to capitalize on our scale and our growing fiber footprint, which the Nectomy acquisition will only advance once that's approved. Now, Luth and the team are well underway with their AI-driven efficiency and growth programs. I'll talk about that in a minute. You're already aware of our commitment to advancing our networks. For example, a 5G reach is now 88%. Even before fiber, we have one gig broadband available across the market. Now, these commitments will pay dividends, both in our B2C and B2B business. Finally, just a word on our capital structure in the UK, and Charlie's going to address this more specifically. The most important message I want you to hear from me is that both Liberty and Telefonica are completely aligned on our commitment to this business long-term. While we appreciate that leverage today exceeds our original targets and as a result of slower growth and our decision to reinvest more in our networks, I would urge you to remember that we have many tools at our disposal if necessary, both organic and inorganic, to drive greater free cash flow, stronger operating performance, and lower leverage over time. So more on that with Charlie in Q&A if you'd like. Now, turning to VMO2's quarterly operating results on the next slide, you can see that while our broadband and mobile net losses were better than a year ago, we are still encountering significant competitive activity and increased churn. I believe that the initiative I just referenced and discussed on the prior slide, as well as the new consumer management team and structure will address these challenges. Meanwhile, mobile operators are up sequentially in flat year over year, as we focus on retention efforts there, primarily maintaining value over volume. And fixed-yard pools were flat sequentially, but down 4.6% year-over-year, and that's largely in line with overall pricing in the market. Now, Lutz is on, and of course, we can dig into these results further during the Q&A. Turning to Virgin Media Ireland, you'll see that broadband-ed ads have been steady over the last five quarters, and that's supported principally by our wholesale fiber business, a good example of what we can do with wholesale. It's worth mentioning that our fiber rollout is on track to be substantially complete at the end of the year, and we'll be expanding our retail footprint off-footprint, both of which will help our business moving forward, particularly the reduction in fiber capex. Fixed yard crews have been very steady at €6 to €1, and mobile post-paid net ads remain positive. Those are supported by a €15 offer and retention strategies. Now, I'll end with just a bit of commentary on AI. I think the headline is the message here, right? The telco sector, in my view, is ready-made to realize AI benefits, which over time should be transformational for us and our peers. For starters, we sit on the assets, the very assets AI needs most to succeed. What am I referring to? Large amounts of data that can't be replicated, massive cost structures like call centers, field ops and networks that are built for automation, millions of daily touch points with consumers, and the infrastructure like connectivity and data centers that support the distribution layer for AI. And not surprisingly, we are looking to benefit from the very same opportunities that our peers are attacking, namely driving margins through cost efficiencies, driving customer and revenue growth through hyper-personalization, driving demand for our infrastructure, including power, space, and cooling, and driving interest in our stock as investors rotate into sectors that are net beneficiaries of AI and not candidates for disruption. And we learned a lot of lessons, like everybody. A big one for me has been finding the right balance between building and buying solutions. Increasingly, we find that partners, many of them listed here on this slide, are able to help us integrate faster, launch sooner, and scale much more effectively. On the top right of the slide, we've shown some examples of what we're doing today and the results we're generating. Things like reaching 65% of our BMO2 customer base with our personalization engine, generating 75% call containment rates through our authentic AI pilots in the Netherlands, reducing fraud, optimizing CapEx, and lowering truck rolls and technician costs. To be candid, these initiatives, I have to be honest, are table stakes for every telco. Don't get me wrong. I'm proud of it. We're proud of it. On balance, we're realizing strong marginal improvements to our economics, our customer interactions, and our network quality. And as we've said publicly here, we expect to generate annual savings in the hundreds of millions. But everyone on this call knows, certainly I know, we are just scratching the surface here. Based on some work we did with McKinsey and Google, we analyzed some of our core operating expenses across the group to assess both the proportion of that cost, which could be addressed by AI over time, and what some more ambitious savings targets might look like. And you can see this in the bottom right of the chart, show savings of between 20% and 40%, even as high as 70% in things like customer care. And we're not providing guidance here. These are just indications of what we think could and should be achievable over time. These are not fanciful numbers in my view. They look more realistic to me every day. Why is that? A lot of things are working in our favor here. On one hand, of course, we're implementing our own AI solutions with sophisticated and skilled partners to drive benefits, but equally important, on the other hand, we're seeing our largest suppliers, typically software and outsourcing partners, looking for early renewals in exchange for passing along to us the significant AI savings they themselves are realizing and must realize to stay relevant. So we're getting it on both ends. Obviously, as we develop these initiatives more fully, we'll share more detail. And remember, this example just covers OpEx, right? There are significant revenue and CapEx benefits to be realized as well. And then finally, in my last slide, we're not only taking advantage of AI in our telecom and growth businesses, we're also prioritizing opportunities to invest in AI companies through our existing tech portfolio as part of Liberty Growth. Now, we discussed this, you know, on and off in the past, but let me get into a bit more detail here. As a reminder, we've had a pretty good track record investing in tech. Typically, companies in their scale-up phase and where we see some strategic value to our existing businesses. Good examples would be Plume or Aviatrix or Samba TV. Our track record has been good. Since inception, we've invested a total of $700 million into our tech portfolio and taken out around $600 million through distributions and exits. So we're funding our investments with proceeds. And with about $100 million in today, we're sitting on a market valuation of $400 million. and so in a good spot. Now, recently, we pivoted to AI-driven investments where it makes sense. I'm not talking about OpenAI or SpaceX. Good examples would be 11 Labs. Maybe some of you know this company, a leader in voice AI with advanced automated customer service solutions that we're actually using today. Expo and cybersecurity and ScanAI and data and automation are two good examples of companies directly addressing the operational backbone of a telco. So we're enhancing network security, optimizing processes, and driving efficiency there. Arcus is optimizing the next generation of network infrastructure, a perfect fit for the rest of our infrastructure businesses like Atlas Edge. Now, if you look at these businesses and you look them up, you'll see that we're typically investing with the smartest VC firms and tech companies. We're not alone here. We're partnering with smart money on these things. And going forward, we'll remain focused on AI infrastructure, models, and voice and video, cybersecurity, AI applications, and things like customer care, sales and financing, all things that we think could be useful to us and also very successful. Lastly, I'll just point out that our infrastructure vertical within Liberty Growth is playing the AI space as well through our data center investments in Atlas Edge, of course. We have hundreds of millions committed there, and our alternative energy investments. So we're taking a 360-degree view of the AI opportunity, which we believe is the best way to innovate and transform our business over the long term. I think it's going to be one hell of a ride. I'm excited about the stuff we're doing and happy to get into any questions you may have. In the meantime, Charlie, over to you.
Thanks, Mike. Turning to our Q2 financial highlights, our Opco performance continues to track against 2026 guidance, as I'll get into starting on the next slide. We close the quarter with $2.4 billion of corporate cash, supported by proceeds from our EdgeConnect's disposal and additional corporate liquidity provided by a new wire stake, asset-backed loan. And we've completed $4.1 billion of financing year-to-date, including the imminent separation of the Telenet and wire capital structures following the recent approval of the fibre-sharing agreement. The next slide sets out the Q2 financial results for our Benelux companies. And as a reminder, we now present Telenet's financial performance excluding WIRE to provide greater clarity given the full separation of the two companies and their capital structures, which, as Mike just presented, is set to happen following BCA approval of the fibre-sharing agreement in Belgium. Turning to the financials, revenue trends of Boniface and Zigo sequentially improved during the quarter, supported by fixed customer volumes returning to growth in line with the Howie Wim plan. Whilst repricing remains a headwind today, we anticipate that impact will reduce as we move into 2027. Adjusted EBITDA declined in line with our guidance, reflecting the in-year impact of the How We Win plan and some one-off investments in network resilience which we identified when we gave guidance. Cost reduction and initiatives remained firmly on track and continues to support our expectation of returning the business to EBITDA growth from 2027. Adjusted EBITDA left P&E additions were lower year-on-year, primarily reflecting higher capex in the quarter related to the network resilience investments. At Turner, revenue continues to be impacted by a strategic decision not to renew Belgium football rights for a season and a one-off adjustment related to a VAT dispute, partly offset by higher revenue from the new WIRE Management Services Agreement. EBITDA growth was driven by the WIRE Management Services Agreement and lower WIRE wholesale fees. Looking ahead, we will see adjusted EBITDA impacted by the return of costs associated with the new DUPO League contract in the second half. Starting to the UK and Ireland, Virgin Media O2's service revenue was broadly in line with our expectations. Competitive intensity in the fixed market remained elevated, whilst O2 business continued to rationalise parts of its portfolio to support long-term growth, resulting in a reduction in headline revenues. This was partially offset by wholesale revenue growth in our market-leading MD&O business. There was also an improvement in mobile service revenue trends sequentially. Adjusted EBITDA declined by 2.9%, driven by lower revenue, but supported by further cost efficiency measures. At Virgin Media Island, service revenues modestly declined, impacted by continued competition in the consumer fixed markets. But because of this, adjusted EBITDA declined by 4.7%. Turning to the next slide, we remain committed to our disciplined capital allocation model, rotating capital into high-growth investments and strategic opportunities that drive long-term value creation. Capital intensity of our key opcos remains elevated, but all within guidance ranges for the full year. Virgin Media 2 continues to see elevated CapEx, driven by higher investments in mobile capacity, including spectrum integration from Vodafone, the ongoing fibre upgrade programme and IT digital spend to put us in better position in terms of seamless FMC offerings. Vodafone's Zygo CapEx was driven by network upgrades, including the DOCSIS 4.0, digitisation efforts and one-off investments in network resilience and service reliability in 2026. CapEx has meaningfully stepped down at Telenet as the 5G network upgrades are now largely complete and as we complete much of our investment in our digital platforms. We expect this to continue to trend down further next year. And Virgin Media Ireland CapEx continues to step down in 2026 as we largely complete the fibre upgrade of around 1 million premises. We expect Ireland to be free cash flow positive because of this in Q4 for the first time since the beginning of the upgrade program. Moving to the Liberty Growth Walk in the top right, the fair market value of our growth portfolio decreased to $2.9 billion in Q2. This was mainly driven by the successful sale of EdgeConnects, which I'll detail more in the next slide, and UBC Slovakia, partially offset by modest investments in Formula E, NexFiber and the IA on Tepka within the growth portfolio. The key fair market value adjustments were an increased value for EdgeConnects on sale and an increase in the Lionsgate stock price. Turning to our cash walk on the bottom right, we ended the quarter with a consolidated cash balance of $2.4 billion. This was mainly driven by the proceeds received from EdgeConnects and UPC Slovakia transactions. And this excludes the $340 million of additional liquidity provided by our loan facility backed by our wire stake, half of which resides outside the Ziggo group according to the terms of the Vodafone transaction. Next I want to spend a moment on H-Connects which was an excellent outcome for our growth portfolio and a clear demonstration of our strategy working as intended. We first invested back in 2015 taking a minority stake in what was then a relatively early stage data center business. Over the following 11 years we funded its growth consistently and rationally with around $177 million of gross equity in total. We supported a company as it scaled without over committing capital. And today, EdgeConnects is a truly global platform with over 50 data centers across more than 40 markets and 4 continents, spanning the full spectrum of edge and hyperscale developments. Our exit strategy reflected the same discipline that characterized our investment approach. We monetized the position in stages, crystallizing value while maintaining upside exposure. We achieved a full exit in Q2 2026 with $604 million of proceeds from the final stake on top of $122 million from earlier sales. And the headline numbers speak for themselves. $177 million invested, $726 million of total proceeds and roughly a 30% IRR and a four times multiple of money. Now beyond the financial terms, the outcome of our EdgeConnects investment validates our right-to-play in digital infrastructure and data centres. We now have more than 10 years of hands-on experience in this space, and we're applying that playbook to our Atlas Edge investment. Moving to the Treasury slide, we've been proactively dealing with our 2028 and 2029 maturities, and overall, we have successfully refinanced more than $4 billion across our credit silos year to date. In Belgium, we are now formally separated the capital structures between Telenet and WIRE following BCA approval of WIRE's fibre-sharing agreement with Proximus. WIRE now can draw down the $5 billion fully underwritten facility to repay $2.3 billion intercompany loan with Telenet and a $0.4 billion WIRE dividend as part of the wider debt rebalancing. Telenet will use the proceeds received to repay $2.5 billion of 2028 maturities. At Butterfone and Ziggo we were able to refinance $1.3 billion dollars, leaving us with no 2028 maturities and reducing 2029 maturities. We remain opportunistic here ahead of the spin-off, and as Mike noted, are on track to execute a number of deleveraging steps pre-spin. At Virgin Meteor 2, we remain opportunistic in the debt market as we look to continue to push out our 2029 maturities, but we acknowledge recent trading levels. Now, as Mike discussed, we are committed to a stable long-term capital structure of BMO2. We in Telefonica recognize that leverage is above our four to five times target and that credit spreads are currently elevated, but we both believe that we are making the investments today that will deliver every DA growth to deleverage that company back towards our target range. We're investing CapEx at 22% of sales. It's actually 25% of sales if you exclude hardware sales, which is significantly above the average through the cycle for a telecom company to support this strategy, including significant near-term investments in the mobile and fixed networks to improve customer experience and competitiveness, as well as in digital IT transformation to realize the cost reduction opportunities presented by AI. The small dividend projected to be paid to these shareholders will be reinvested into the Net Omnia transaction, which is a key transaction for Virgin O2 to keep investing in its fiber plan, which we believe will further strengthen from the product offering for VMO2 and help establish a credible second fiber network to compete with BT and unlock wholesale revenues. Both shareholders continue to look at inorganic opportunities to further strengthen the competitive position and financial performance of Virgin Media O2, as we did with both O2 Daisy and the NetOmnia transactions. Both shareholders recognize the importance of credit providers, which is why they're making these investments and acquisitions to support the long-term future of the company. Now, we remain on track to deliver against this strategy and we'll update investors as we always do in February of next year. And finally, turning to our full-year guidance for 2026, we're reconfirming all guidance metrics of BMO2, Vodafone, Zigger and TeleMAT, as well as our guidance for corporate-adjusted EBITDA. And in addition, we're upgrading our full-year corporate cash target from $1.5 billion to $2 billion supported by the EdgeConnect proceeds and wire asset by loan. And that concludes our prepared remarks for Q2, and over to you for questions.
Operator
Your session will be conducted electronically. If you would like to ask a question, please do so by pressing the star or asterisk key followed by the digit 1 on your phone. In order to accommodate everyone, we request that you ask only one question. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. We'll pause for just a moment to give everyone an opportunity to join the queue. Joshua will go to the line of Joshua Mills with B&T Paribas. Joshua, your line is open.
Hi, guys. Thank you for taking the question. I'll keep it to the UK.
Hello, operator? I'm in the crowd again. Who's that?
I hope you can hear me. Can you hear me, sorry?
We can hear you, yeah. You're kind of going in and out?
Yeah, yeah, all right. Okay, thanks. So, first of all, especially on the UK ARPU trends, I think in the past you've talked about the issues faced from declining legacy revenue, things like voice and TV, and today you're talking more about the declines being related to front book price competition. So, it sounds to us like it's no longer just a legacy issue, it's more related to market conditions they stand today. So, my question on this ARPU trend is, Firstly, is that a fair characterisation, and if so, do you think that we're at trough R2 declines and trough servitory declines at the moment, or could things continue to get worse in the second half, given the level of competition we see in the market? And then secondly, on the volume side of the equation for the UK, in the past, when you've had these kind of sublosses in markets like the Netherlands and Switzerland, you took the quite bold step to rebase customers aggressively, proactively, onto cheaper tariffs to try and stabilize the base, it looks like today's strong results on Vodafone, Ziggo, Netard, so that's had a good effect, so is it something you'd consider doing in the UK as well, or do you think that you're going to remain happy with the level of subscribed losses in the near term as long as you don't take too much for Hiss on RP? Thank you.
Go ahead, Luke. So, thank you for the question. So, I mean, when we did the guidance for the year 26, we expected the market to be very competitive. Remember, I said that 70% of the service revenue guidance of minus 3% and minus 5% will come from fixed consumer, which exactly is now kicking in. So, that's number one. Number two, to your point, is the market more competitive?
So, just one number. compared to Q2.25 the average selling price is down 4% in the market so I think the observation is right now where is the 4 or 6% coming from? The biggest driver for it is our own prevention and I think what we are not doing, forget about the RQ we have, remember we have built and we have now built the same prevention machine, so the biggest already, but in a very targeted way. Contracts with we will keep, I don't know how the market will improve. There are some new announcements from OpenReach. Ofcom has to accept them if they will, and then our prevention will help us a bit more.
Operator
Thank you, John. Yes, thank you. Our next question will go to the line of Robert Grimble with Deutsche Bank.
Robert, your line is Yeah, hi everyone, and thank Thank you. So, well done on getting the BCA approval. I think it's taken a bit longer than you thought, but probably been prepping away in the meantime. What's the timeline from here on the side of the collaboration and the separation of Telenet, and alongside that, the monetization of WIRE? Would you hope the monetization announcement is a 2026 one, or is that in next year now, because things have gone a bit more slowly?
Thank Thanks, Robert. It has taken a while to get to this point, but as I tried to articulate in my remarks, it's a building block. It's a foundational piece of the building block. And now that Senate opening up a lot of key next steps, you mentioned one. I mean, Telenet is already split out. Wire and Telenet have been really separate businesses for a while. It's the second quarter, I believe, we've actually reported on them separately. So that's happened. And what the VCA approval allows us to do is essentially rebalance the stack on each of those two entities and proceed, importantly, with the sale of a stake in wire, which is well underway. We've got actually, I think, six to eight people doing the work, have hired advisors, and we will be diligently proceeding with that transaction through year-end, and it's possible that even as soon as year-end, but perhaps Q1, and we will have concluded that transaction. But that's well underway, and it's one of many things that the BCA approval unlocks, all of which, in our view, are very positive and helping accelerate our timing on the ultimate ZIGO Group spin.
The process will take place next week. And they will access the $4.35 billion of wire financing, just for clarity. The funder's dividend.
Operator
Thank you, John. And thank you, Robert, for your question. Our next question will go to the line at PoloTang with UBS. Hello, your line is open.
Thanks for taking the question. It's just about Vodafone, Ziggo, and broadband. Can you clarify when you will be able to start offering broadband in the Delta fiber footprint? Also, what do you think has had the biggest impact in terms of helping stabilize the Vodafone, Ziggo, broadband base? So, was it the ESPN content offers? Was it pushing harder on contracting customers? Was there a notable tailwind in terms of the Odido data breach, or was it something else? And do you think that you can see improving or positive net ads going forward, or is stable a more likely outcome?
I don't know if Stephen was on and then off. Stephen, let me know if you're on.
Yeah, hi, Mike. Welcome to take those. Yeah, great. Hi, fellow. Thanks for the question. Let me deal with the Delta question First, we're planning to roll out in the Delta footprint for our own uproading in the second half of the year. We're not far from that now. So we expect to see that turn up in our numbers in the fourth quarter. And then in terms of stabilizing, look, as you've seen progressively over the last six quarters, it's not one thing that we've done. It's a sequence of a number of things we've done, including bringing our front book pricing in line with the marketplace, investing in the core proposition, increasing our speeds. We're the only ones offering 2Digabit across most of the country today, differentiating both with Wi-Fi guarantee and now latterly with the CSPN bundle, and changing our marketing focusing more on connectivity and competing harder than we had previously. So I think it's a combination of things that I think have helped us get to this point. As a result, I think it's fair to say that we are pursuing sustainability of that growth. So in terms of providing guidance going forward, because we put in, I think, a number of pillars that will help us continue to build the momentum that we've seen. Our expectation is to continue to grow through the second half of the year.
Operator
I have Nick Lyall with Varenberg. Nick, your line is open.
Thanks very much. I hope you can hear me. Hello, guys. Just a quick question again on the UK to follow up on Josh's, please. What makes you think this isn't a long-term decline for the UK? I'm just interested. I said, your pricing is quite a bit above BTs and substantially above the old still. So I take Lucy's point that he's got a lot of customers locked in for now. But why should you be able to sustain this pricing point? You know, what helps you get there? Is it rolling out fibre and completing the fibre footprint or something else? Or is this a problem maybe for the longer term that arteries just keep on slipping from any quarters? And just a second point, Charlie, can I just clarify what you said about inorganic options in the UK? that sounded like you were thinking about potentially buying assets, not selling to reduce debt. Have I got that the right way around, or have I misunderstood that? Thanks very much.
John, do you want to guess the first one?
Yeah, just sitting on the – I think that's the point we're trying to make is both Telefonica and us are firmly behind this company. We're very committed. We're investing at very elevated levels to secure the long-term competitiveness of the business. And we have been ready to do inorganic moves, whether we're flying or indeed selling. As you know, we've sold, you know, things, for example, CTIL. So it's not to be specific about whether we're buying or selling. It's more to say, look, we are right behind this company, and we think the company's in the right direction, performing to the plan we set it for this year, and looking forward to giving the update to everybody in February on the next phase of financial development.
I'd just add to that that the Natomya deal would be an example of an inorganic transaction that we think, on balance, is beneficial to VMO2 from a credit and equity perspective for all the reasons we've articulated along the way. So inorganic could include really everything that's not simply driving cost reduction or revenue growth or free cash flow in the operating business. So it's a wide definition. Lutz, do you want to address the first question?
Lutz, you might be on mute.
So, yeah, my answer to your question is the following. We have three very strong brands, right? And it's not only Virgin Media, it's also O2 and Gifkaf. And ultimately, we will be able to sell any product with any of these three brands. And we have also, and we have just launched Gifkaf Broadband, and we are starting to gain traction there. So high-level, three brands addressing different target groups, and on average, every second household is a customer of ours, but there's only on average one or three products for us. While we have very strong mobile connectivity, very strong broadband connectivity, very strong video products for different technology. So, therefore, even if you get fiber very cheap, I think the combination across everything to get this very good value for money, this good service, this is our strategy, and you will be progressing us in that way. And we have to be prepared that the competitiveness stays like it is today.
I think also the flip side of that equation is, of course, but things I was mentioning around driving transformation in our operating model, our operating costs, and ultimately a declining CapEx profile. So we're focused, as you should be, on the profitability of these businesses, the ability to generate free cash over the long term. You know, we've just been describing revenue. Certainly that's a big piece of it, and Luce didn't mention the business side, enterprise as well as wholesale. So there's many levers to drive the top line, but far more levers to drive profitability between there and free cash. And a significant part of the company's time, effort, energy, and shareholders is to ensure that we are optimizing the P&L of the business. So lots of levers to pull to drive, you know, what we think is the most important metric, and that's long-term free cash flow, So, only one of which is revenue, and then Glut has addressed that pretty well. Thanks, Nick.
That's great. Thank you very much. Thank you, Nick.
Operator
This is a line of Ulrich Grace with Bernstein Society General Group. Ulrich, your line is open.
Yeah, thanks very much. I wanted to ask on the quantification of the AI cost benefits. That was quite interesting. I thought, Mike, the question I would have is how confident are you that you can hold on to these kind of benefits, point being cost benefits that are available to the industry have kind of diffused away. You mentioned McKinsey's involved in those kind of companies are a mechanism for diffusion, one of them, but there are others. So what are the reasons why such cost benefits are ultimately good for the bottom line in the longer term? That will be interesting here as well.
If you mean good for the bottom line or if you mean sustainable, I think you asked both questions. I'll repeat what I said on the call, which is that it's coming at us from both directions, sort of self-induced, organically driven, efficiencies, improvements, all the things that we know AI can do. You're reading about it every day. We're on that. And the list of projects is way too long to put on a slide. But every company in the group, both in the growth and the telecom portfolio, is implementing today solutions that are making them more efficient, faster, better, more profitable. And that's happening organically as we speak. I'm really thinking through and addressing the longer-term impact because the trend is only going one way. Models are getting smarter. More and more companies are arriving on the scene, taking advantage of that intelligence, driving solutions at scale for companies like ours and others. And we don't see anything on the horizon that would change that trajectory. If you just extrapolate from where intelligence is moving and how costs are evolving in that space for beneficiaries like us, it's just going to get faster and cheaper. And as we apply that logic to more and more of our business, we just see nothing but upside. I mean, we're only 20%, 25% in the cloud. I repeat that. 75%, 80% of our business is still on time. So there's so many things our industry, and we're not different than any other telco, has yet to implement and take advantage of that. I think it's almost irresponsible not to be that ambitious. And I'm pounding the table every day with my team to tell me why we can't be that ambitious. And it's nice to have, you know, third parties who are along that ride, on that ride with us, whether they're, you know, consultants or technology companies. I think that's, you have to be thinking that broadly, and I think that aggressively over the next, let's say, two to three years. It's moving that fast. And so, you know, that's how we're approaching it. It's great to do the things we're doing. I'm proud of our industry and I'm proud of my team. But it's just the start. There has to be a rethink of our operating models, you know, how we're managing our businesses, talent, and all the technology and software required to drive these kinds of, you know, step change improvements. So I think it's real. I think it's sustainable. And, you know, we're anxiously working to deliver it.
Operator
Our next question will go to the line of Matthew Herrigan with Stonex. Matthew, your line is in.
Thank you. On the industrial kind of blocking and tackling AI, you kind of answered about 80% of my question, but I assume you don't have the issues with token costs, which are surprising some people in terms of what is being charged now. There's even some talk of a bit of a bait-and-switch. and talking with some of your U.S. peers, you know, I think they feel like there's a touch of discernible benefit in 27 on a net basis, and then after that, you really get an inflection point. I mean, do you think you're going to see a decided inflection point in 28, 29, late decade, or is this just kind of a gradual process? And then lastly, you talked on costs, which are, you know, very quantifiable and predictable Well, on the revenue side, I assume that was also addressed by McKinsey and Google, but you'd rather kind of keep that closed, come out, though, because it's a little harder to realize and you don't want to go too aggressive on it. Thanks.
Yeah, and I'll ask Enrique to jump in here, too. Look, on the revenue side and the CapEx side, those numbers generally are not as high as the ones we put on the slide, but they're still tangible and significant and worth pursuing, and you should not assume that because they weren't on the slide, we're not looking at those things very aggressively, and many of which we're already putting into action, right? So in Luce's case, you know, his personalization engine is driving churn reduction, driving, you know, next best offers, driving all kinds of revenue benefits just today as we speak. So we intend and are doing that across the board, but we figured one piece at a time. I think it is gradual. I don't think it's, you know, in one quarter all of a sudden everything hits. It will be gradual, and I think it's, for us, that's the only way to do it. Why is it? Because as you hear from others in the industry, it's not simply the technology. It's not simply a great partner. It's also your organization, your talent, your operating model. No point in having, you know, all this great stuff and you're not able to implement it. You don't have the people, the structures to implement it. So it is a journey, but everybody's on it. We're on it, and we're on it from end to end, really. And then, I don't know, Arnike, you want to talk more about the economics of AI tokens and how we see that progressing?
Absolutely. Thank you. First of all, like anybody else in the industry, we're watching the evolution of both token costs and the resulting benefits pretty closely. And I can say categorically we don't see a major issue with the increase in some cases of token costs because we've been, I think, pretty disciplined in making sure that we're applying those tokens against business cases that do bring us net benefits. So, you know, I do believe that this would be a continuing story, but I see a significant net benefit even though like anybody else we do see an increase in the usage of tokens and the related cost thanks Mike and we take enjoy the rest of your summers thanks Matthew our next question will go to the line of James Raptor with a new street route research seems you're going to open yes thank you very much indeed yeah good afternoon.
Sort of question, please, around kind of Virgin Media 02. If I look at kind of your partner, Telefonica, they've seen declining revenues in Germany. And just two days ago, they announced a major cost restructuring program. And obviously, Telefonica has just helped to appoint a new CFO at Virgin Media 02. So I'm wondering whether you see the scope to take similar action at Virgin Media O2 and to kind of take on a more radical approach to cost reductions, as we've seen your partner also announce in Germany. And you talked about kind of looking to support the business. And at the same time, you've just raised your cash target at the TopCo now to $2 billion. dollars, would you consider injecting any of that cash back into Virgin Media 02 to help it with its deleveraging? Thank you.
Thanks, James. Listen, premature to discuss capital allocation. We think the business is obviously generating free cash today, and we think can generate significantly more free cash tomorrow. On your cost reduction question, certainly that is It's something we are looking at as well. We're in the business planning phase right now. This is when Luce and the team are sitting down doing the work on our long-range plans. And, of course, when we mentioned organic and inorganic tools to continue to drive free cash flow and reduce leverage, that is, as you state, a very realistic one. And so you should assume that, you know, those are the kind of things we'll be looking at, as we should. And I don't know if Charlie wants to add anything to that.
No, I'm very interested in that, Judy. I mean, I think, look, you know, the business is on track with the plan that they set out at the beginning of the year. They've reconfirmed guidance. We're going through planning exercise. We do understand leverage is out of the range. We take it seriously. It'll give us the time to, you know, continue the works with the manager and the right next steps, which could involve cost reductions. And we'll come back to you in February.
Could you, I mean, do you see kind of scope there? Sorry, okay. Thank you very much.
Operator
Thank you, genius. Our next question will go to the line of David Wright with Bank of America. David, your line is open.
Oh, hi, guys. I hope you can hear me. Thank you for the presentation and opportunity to ask questions. Mine is a little around the accounting change in VMO2. It just seems a little unintuitive to me to be amortizing the commissions, extending the amortization period as you are accruing, increasing sort of net losses and higher churn, that seems like quite the opposite thing you would do. So I'm wondering why you've chosen to do that and on what basis? And I guess the second point would be, is it just a one-off impact or should we now be seeing this sort of run over a period to sort of support the EBITDA line? And I guess my sort of final question was, does this adjustment sit within the EBITDA guidance or is it outside the EBITDA guidance? Was it anticipated when you gave the EBITDA guidance? That would be really interesting to me. And then, Charlie, I sort of have to ask, you know, you kind of mentioned this full-year VMO2 sort of, I don't want to say revisit, but sort of, you know, full-year update. And it seems like, you know, that could be sort of a more significant event. Should we think about it that way, or are you just talking about sort of general business planning as usual? Thank you, James. Charlie, Bill, for you.
Yeah, yeah, I canning, yeah. First of all, the second question that is the usual update in February, I don't want to make a big deal about it. It's more just to say we obviously get guidance every year. We get guidance for this year, we're on track, and as we always do, it'll be irregular. So there's nothing particularly sinister or magical about next February. In terms of accounting, look, you know, the magic of accounting estimates, we are always revising accounting estimates. You know, it's always based on facts. It's always aligned with our auditor, and it's always based on our real-life experience. So I agree with you, you know, maybe it seems odd in the context of the multi-compensation, but these actually are the facts, and this is the right way we believe to account for it, and it's not just us, it's obviously mandatory with the auditor. It has some impact on EBDA. Was that anticipated in the original guidance? Probably not. On the other hand, it's not that material number. It's worth pointing out the key metric we're looking at here is the free cash flow, And it's obviously a non-match item, but I do agree it has a short-term benefit on every DA. But in years past, it's worked against us. So we'll consider this in the sort of swings and roundabouts of accounting.
But just on the facts, why wouldn't you share me that?
Sorry, thank you, thanks, please. I think I can help you to answer what it is. When you do a lot of prevention, you bring customers into a new 24-month contract length, and that is impacting accounting the waiter, right? So if you add these two things together, I think what is maybe on the surface counterintuitive makes a lot of sense. So a lot of new re-contracting, you pay commissions for that, and you, of course, then accrue them over the new contract or lifetime of the customer. Just one thing, so it all makes sense. And then the other thing, what Charlie said, concrete numbers. Last year we had ponds and tents working for us. We don't have this. This makes even a higher amount, and now this goes the other way. So it's always small items, big companies like ours, but it's not explicit. Thank you, Lance.
Operator
Thank you. And with that, we will conclude the Q&A session. I would now like to pass the conference back over to you, Mr. Mike Fries, for any closing remarks.
Great. I'll keep it brief. Thanks for joining us. We always appreciate that. Lots of information to digest. You know where to find us if you have questions. It'll be a busy summer for us, as you can imagine, across the group, particularly in Benelux. So stay tuned for announcements there, and stay well. Speak soon. Thanks very much.
