Lci Industries Q3 FY2025 Earnings Call

Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for the LCI Industries Third Quarter Earnings Call. My name is Lucy, and I'll be coordinating your call today. It is now my pleasure to hand over to your host, Lillian Etzkorn, CFO, to begin. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the LCI Industries Third Quarter 2025 Conference Call. I am joined on the call today by Jason Lippert, President and CEO; along with Kip Emenhiser, VP of Finance and Treasurer. We will discuss the results for the quarter in just a moment. But first, I would like to inform you that certain statements made in today's conference call regarding LCI Industries and its operations may be considered forward-looking statements under the securities laws and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. As a result, the company cautions you that there are a number of factors, many of which are beyond the company's control, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. These factors are discussed in our earnings release and in our Form 10-K and in other filings with the SEC. The company disclaims any obligation or undertaking to update forward-looking statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after the date of the forward-looking statements are made, except as required by law. In addition, during today's conference call, we will refer to certain non-GAAP or adjusted financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are available in our earnings release and investor presentation, which have been posted on the Investor Relations section of our website and are also available in our Form 8-K filed this morning with the SEC. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Jason.

Thank you, Lillian, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to LCI Industries' Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. This quarter, we continued to build on our ongoing and successful efforts to drive efficiency and benefits from our years of diversification and our relentless focus on growth. To that point, we delivered an exceptionally strong quarter with sales growth of 13% to more than $1 billion, along with solid margin improvement, driven by double-digit gains across our RV and Adjacent businesses. This demonstrates the continued benefit of our innovation strategy and successful integration of our recent acquisitions. Our entire organization continues to work diligently to optimize productivity, footprint, and resources, positioning the company for outperformance as the industry begins to recover from this prolonged cycle. Operating margins improved 140 basis points year-over-year to 7.3%, a direct result of our disciplined cost management, sustainable improvements in overhead and G&A, more favorable mix, footprint optimization, and ongoing productivity initiatives. Year-to-date, we successfully completed 3 facility consolidations with 2 more expected by year-end. Our facility consolidation actions completed in 2025 alone are expected to generate more than $5 million in annualized savings. Collectively, these initiatives position us to deliver our 85-basis-point operating margin improvement goal for the year. On the wholesale front, following a strong Elkhart Open House, we expect a near-term uptick in units produced. Our chassis orders in October are up roughly 275 to 300 units per week compared to prior months, an encouraging sign of OEM confidence and proactive dealer restocking ahead of the next selling season. Turning to RV OEM. Net sales were approximately $470 million, up 11% year-over-year. This double-digit growth underscores the effectiveness of our innovation strategy and the strength of our competitive moat. Total content per unit increased 6% year-over-year to $5,431 as we continue to expand share across our top 5 product categories: chassis, appliances, axles and suspensions, furniture, and windows. Since 2020, our total content has grown an impressive 60%. Recent innovations like the Furrion Chill Cube air conditioner, analog braking systems, 4K Window series, SunDeck, and TCS suspension systems continue to gain momentum. Together, these platforms have reached a combined $225 million annualized run rate, more than doubling from $100 million just 2 quarters ago. The enthusiasm around all new products at the Elkhart Open House was tremendous, with strong OEM and dealer engagement as these new innovations showed up on many leading brands. Our ability to deliver high-impact innovation supported by customer relationships, our expansive product portfolio, scale, and manufacturing expertise positions us to consistently capture 3% to 5% organic content growth annually. We also saw some easing in product mix pressure this quarter as smaller single-axle trailers declined from the mid-20% range earlier this year to about 19%, supporting both content and margin growth. Looking ahead, we expect North American RV wholesale shipments in the 340,000 to 350,000 range for 2025. As demand returns, our focus on innovation and share growth will continue to drive solid performance. Net sales in our Adjacent or diversified businesses were $320 million, up 22% year-over-year. This strong performance reflects growth across our building products, utility trailer, transportation, and marine markets. Of the total increase, approximately $39 million came from acquisitions, specifically Freedman Seating and Trans Air, where synergies are tracking well ahead of schedule. Since our acquisition of Freedman Seating, they have entered the heavy-duty bus seating market, a $150 million addressable opportunity where they are already capturing orders, showcasing our ability to scale our furniture manufacturing expertise. At Trans Air, we're streamlining operations and achieving early wins consistent with our proven acquisition playbook. Subsequent to the quarter, we also expanded through the acquisition of Bigfoot Leveling in October, which broadens our hydraulic leveling system offerings and MAS Supply, which enhances our residential window capabilities, complementing our internal window lines. Utility trailer production remains healthy at around 700,000 units per year. We're accelerating content growth through innovative new products for this market like ABS, coil spring suspension, and tire pressure monitoring systems, all helping to elevate our offerings in this market. We're also leveraging our manufacturing expertise to expand into high-growth sectors like OEM and aftermarket golf cart seating, an area experiencing strong growth in residential and community living markets. Collectively, LCI's total addressable market opportunity is approximately $16 billion and strategically aligned with our core manufacturing strengths. Turning to Aftermarket. Net sales were $246 million, up 7% year-over-year as our strong OEM content continues to fuel aftermarket growth. The growth in OEM content directly fuels additional revenue streams with increased demand for product enhancement and service in the aftermarket. A great example of this is our Furrion air conditioners. In 2022, our OEM share was less than 5% with virtually no aftermarket presence. Today, just 3 years later, we captured over 50% OEM market share, and we expect more than $20 million in aftermarket air conditioner sales this year. This formula is clear: OEM success and momentum drive aftermarket growth. To support our continued growth in the service portion of our Aftermarket business, we continue to invest in service infrastructure. Year-to-date, over 28,000 dealer service personnel have completed our technical training programs with thousands of in-person sessions and over 1 million visits to our online tech pages. These training efforts are driving higher quality service and strong dealer partnerships. We've also expanded our service footprint, adding 3 new facility sites in 2025 and doubling our mobile tech staff. These investments have already increased service completions by double digits, improving speed, convenience, and customer satisfaction. All in all, LCI is a huge right to win in the aftermarket. LCI is one of the only players in the industry that truly touches every RV consumer as our components are present in nearly every unit on the road. That unmatched footprint fuels long-term aftermarket growth and positions us as a trusted partner across the entire life cycle of RV ownership. We're also leaning into new opportunities like upfitting solutions, allowing customers to add features like leveling and TCS if it wasn't included in their OEM packages. We are also partnering with campgrounds and storage centers to enhance service accessibility and convenience for our customers. With roughly 1 million RVs entering the service cycle over the next few years, we are exceptionally well-positioned to capture recurring aftermarket demand. To meet rising demand in the aftermarket, we've recently opened a new state-of-the-art 600,000-square-foot distribution center in South Bend, Indiana. This facility further enhances our logistics capabilities, boosting speed, accuracy, and overall capacity while supporting our margin performance as we transition from our older, less efficient Mishawaka location. We remain disciplined in capital allocation, maintaining our industry-leading dividend yield and executing meaningful share repurchases. Year-to-date, we have returned $215 million to shareholders with a repurchase of $129 million of stock and have paid $86 million in dividends. We have a solid balance sheet, having refinanced our convertible notes and other long-term debt earlier this year. In the third quarter, we refreshed and repriced our term loan, reducing annual interest expense by roughly $1 million and improving free cash flow. CapEx for the year is now expected to land between $45 million and $55 million, better than our prior range of $50 million to $70 million, reflecting disciplined capital project management. Looking ahead, our team's confidence continues to build given the multitude of innovation and efficiency efforts we have delivered and will continue to deliver that should result in sustained future growth and enhanced financial performance. As we look beyond the end of the year into 2026, we expect continued 3% to 5% organic content growth from innovation and our competitive advantages, driven in part by a $225 million run rate in our top 5 product innovations, manufacturing optimization, including $5 million in annual run rate savings from 2025 consolidations and 8 to 10 additional consolidations planned for 2026, better product mix normalization as single-axle trailers decline, RV wholesale shipments to lift to 345,000 to 360,000 units in 2026 with near-term strength already evident, aftermarket tailwinds with approximately 1 million RVs entering the service cycle and exploring divestiture opportunities of approximately $75 million of revenues that are dilutive to the business in 2026. Together, we expect these targeted initiatives to lift operating margins to 7% to 8% in 2026. Most importantly, none of this will be possible without our incredible team; the dedication, resilience, and commitment of our 12,000 team members remains the foundation of our success. Over the past 3 years, we have navigated through some tremendous challenges. And today, we're operating from a position of real strength, solid cash flow and balance sheet, healthy margins, and strong customer sentiment. I'd also like to recognize the passing of our founder, our grandfather, Larry Lippert, whose vision, ingenuity, and perseverance built this company from the ground up. His culture of grit, innovation, and courage continue to define who we are today. To our teams across the globe, thank you for relentlessly serving our customers and community every day. Together, we are building a stronger, more resilient, and truly differentiated LCI Industries. I'll now turn it over to Lillian, who will provide more detail on our financial results.

Thank you, Jason. Lippert's innovation, competitive strengths, and successful M&A supported double-digit net sales growth this quarter, while sustainable operational improvement initiatives translated into meaningful margin expansion. Our consolidated net sales for the third quarter were $1 billion, an increase of 13% from the third quarter of 2024. OEM net sales for the third quarter of 2025 were $790 million, up 15% from the same period of 2024, driven by RV OEM net sales of $470 million, which were up 11% compared to the prior-year period. This increase was a result of market share gains and an increased mix of higher content fifth-wheel units. Content per towable RV unit increased 6% year-over-year to $5,431, and content per motorized unit increased 2% year-over-year to $3,839. Towable RV organic content grew 3% year-over-year and 1% sequentially, supported by the share gains we delivered in the top product categories we supply to RV OEMs, specifically appliances, axles and suspension, chassis, furniture, and windows, as well as the continued adoption of recent innovations like our ABS, TCS, appliances, Furrion Chill Cube, and the SunDeck. Adjacent Industries OEM net sales were $320 million, up 22% year-over-year, primarily due to acquisitions within the transportation market, which represented $39 million in the quarter. This increase was also supported by other markets such as utility trailers, where net sales grew 22%, and marine, where net sales rose 9%. We continue to further expand our presence across numerous diversified markets. Aftermarket net sales were $246 million, an increase of 7% compared to the same period in 2024, primarily driven by product innovations and the expanding Camping World relationship within the RV aftermarket, partially offset by lower volumes within the automotive aftermarket. Consolidated operating profit during the third quarter was $75 million or 7.3%, a 140-basis-point expansion over the prior-year period. This growth was primarily driven by reduced costs from material sourcing strategies and increased North American RV sales volume related to market share gains and increased sales mix of higher content fifth-wheel units. The operating profit margin of the OEM segment increased significantly to 5.5% in the third quarter compared to 3.2% for the same period of 2024, primarily driven by increases in selling prices for targeted products, reduced cost from material sourcing strategies, improved fixed cost absorption, and production labor efficiencies. Our Aftermarket segment delivered a 12.9% operating profit margin compared to 13.9% in the prior-year period. This change was primarily driven by higher material costs related to tariffs and higher steel, aluminum, and freight costs, lower production volumes in the automotive aftermarket as a result of lower retail volumes and investments in capacity, distribution, and logistics technology to support future growth. These were partially offset by our ability to increase selling prices for targeted products. Adjusted EBITDA grew 24% to $106 million compared to $85 million in the third quarter of 2024. GAAP net income in the third quarter was $62 million or $2.55 earnings per diluted share, up from $36 million or $1.39 earnings per diluted share in the prior-year period. Adjusted net income increased to $48 million, up 35% to $1.97 per diluted share, excluding loss on extinguishment of debt and gain on sale of real estate net of tax effect. Noncash depreciation and amortization was $90 million for the 9 months ended September 30, 2025, while noncash stock-based compensation expense was $17 million for the same period. We continue to anticipate depreciation and amortization in the range of $115 million to $125 million during the full year 2025. At September 30, 2025, our cash and cash equivalents balance was $200 million, up from $166 million at December 31, 2024. For the 9 months ended September 30, 2025, cash provided by operating activities was $252 million. Investing cash flows included $38 million used for capital expenditures and $103 million used for acquisitions. During the quarter, we refinanced and repriced our term loan facility, lowering interest by 25 basis points. This action strengthens our capital structure and should reduce annualized interest expense by approximately $1 million, supporting continued cash generation and balance sheet flexibility. We also continue to execute on the $300 million share repurchase program that we announced last quarter. During the quarter, we returned $38 million to shareholders through share repurchases and $29 million through our quarterly dividend of $1.15 per share. Year-to-date, we returned $215 million to shareholders in the form of dividends and share repurchases, underscoring our commitment to balanced capital allocation and shareholder returns. As of September 30, 2025, our net inventory balance was $741 million, which was about flat to prior year. At the end of the third quarter, we had outstanding net debt of $748 million or 1.9x pro forma EBITDA adjusted for the impact of noncash and other items. Looking forward, we expect October net sales of approximately $380 million, up 15% from prior year, and we anticipate mid-teens year-over-year growth for the full fourth quarter. As Jason mentioned, we project that North American RV wholesale shipments for 2025 will be in the range of 340,000 to 350,000. Margin expansion continues to run ahead of plan as well. Fourth quarter year-over-year operating margin expansion is expected to match third quarter levels. Efficiency initiatives and infrastructure optimization continue to drive these results. For example, we plan 2 more facility consolidations by year-end for a total of 5 this year. This translates to $5 million run rate in annual savings. Looking to capital allocation for the full year 2025. Capital expenditures are expected to be in the range between $45 million to $55 million, focused on business investment and innovation. We continue to use our balance sheet to prudently pursue strategic opportunities that drive profitable growth and deliver shareholder value. Our long-term leverage target remains at 1.5 to 2x net debt to EBITDA, and we remain committed to returning cash to shareholders. Our preliminary outlook for 2026 calls for North American RV wholesale shipments of approximately 345,000 to 360,000 units, and we continue to target organic towable content growth of 3% to 5% annually. From an efficiency perspective, we expect 8 to 10 additional facility consolidations and are exploring divestiture opportunities of roughly $75 million of revenue from lower-margin noncore areas in 2026. These factors, combined with identified operational improvements and further expansion of our presence in diversified markets are expected to support operating margins in the range of 7% to 8% for 2026. In closing, we are confident that our operational flexibility, strategic diversification, and effective cost management, along with our strong balance sheet, will enable us to deliver sustainable and measurable shareholder value over time. With that, operator, we're ready to take questions, if you could please open the line. Thank you.

The first question comes from Daniel Moore of CJS Securities.

Congratulations on the solid results. I want to highlight that in the quarter, adjusted operating margins improved significantly faster than anticipated. Can you rank those improvements in terms of leverage to higher volumes, optimization, and mix? I'm also curious if tariffs had less of an impact than expected.

Yes. So let me, Dan. So I'll start actually with the end of your question first. I'd say from the tariff perspective, things continue to progress through the year as we had expected. And frankly, as we are foreshadowing previously, the team has done a really solid job of mitigating the tariff impact to the business, both from the resourcing, working with our vendors for options there to help drive the cost down. And then to the extent that we needed to, we've been negotiating with our customers to pass along pricing. So that definitely helped the results that we were able to effectively mitigate the tariffs. Clearly, we saw the volume uplift. We've been seeing the strength in the industries, and I say that broadly, not just the RV, but also strength in other industries as we've been moving through the quarter. And that definitely helped. And you saw as well on the RV side of the business, the content expansion as our newer products continue to be very well received. And as we are going through the model changeover and through open house, we've continued to be very successful in penetrating market share with those products.

And Dan, productivity was a huge boost, too. I just to give you a quick example. I think we're down 50 team members year-to-date from the beginning of the year. And with all the acquisitions, especially the 2 large ones we did, we've added 1,000 people there. So to be up 1,000 with acquisitions, but down net 50 for the year kind of shows you the productivity gains we've experienced through some of the footprint optimization and other productivity initiatives we've been working on.

Really helpful. I wanted to clarify the Q4 outlook, revenue up mid-teens. Can you maybe break that down by end market a little bit? Obviously, a little bit better outlook in RV is helpful. And then on the margin side, you mentioned similar improvements year-over-year. I'm assuming that's about 150 basis points adjusted, putting us in the 4% range. Just want to make sure I'm understanding your thoughts on Q4 margin profile, Lillian.

Sure. So yes, I think you're getting to the right ZIP code with that in terms of that year-over-year margin expansion. In terms of more specific market clarity, I guess, best way to characterize that without getting into specific numbers, we expect to see continued strength in the RV industry as we're going through the fourth quarter. We're seeing continued strength, as Jason was commenting about in his comments around the mix of product, having less of the single-axle units and more of the fifth-wheels coming through is definitely beneficial as well from a top line perspective and for the business. Also keep in mind, as we look at the fourth quarter, that does tend to be a seasonally low time period for some parts of our business, specifically aftermarket. That's a light quarter for us and as well for international tends to be a little bit light, too.

It appears that volume lift and productivity gains will help as we've mentioned. It doesn't appear that there's any downtime that would be more than normal. I mean everybody is taking off kind of normal off times during the seasonality holidays. So I think those are the biggies.

I appreciate the information on the margin improvement from the divestitures and optimization efforts you are implementing. You've achieved a $20 million gain this quarter. There are plans for two more facility consolidations this year and eight to ten next year. Can you provide any insights into the potential proceeds or gains from those sales? I understand they are one-time gains, but they could offer a significant cash benefit.

Some of the facilities are leased, and some are owned. To the extent that we can completely vacate a facility and not repurpose it, we will certainly consider putting those up for sale. There are likely a couple of these, but we do not have any financial figures associated with them at this time until we finalize that process. However, we are definitely experiencing significant momentum in that area as we continue to work diligently on consolidating and simplifying the business.

Absolutely. Last, I appreciate the outlook for the RV wholesale shipments, the preliminary outlook for '26. Do you have kind of a similar outlook for marine at this stage?

At this stage, Dan, we don't. I think when we come out with the fourth quarter results, we'll have a more comprehensive outlook for next year.

And our big opportunity in marine right now is just content growth through some of the innovation we've launched here in the last couple of quarters.

Got it. All right. Well, hopefully, all of the share gains that we're seeing come through, but some of that chatter to rest.

I guess first question on the industry outlook. You mentioned wholesale looks to be up modestly next year. Would you also expect retail to be up next year?

I think we expect retail to remain consistent with what we've seen over the past couple of years. We're not anticipating any significant increase in retail at this time.

Okay. Got it. And then just in terms of the quarter, the 13% revenue growth, could you parse out how much of that was pricing related?

So we haven't broken it down specifically on that, Joe. There are pricing elements involved, but it also includes the overall increase in volume as well as the acquisitions that we identified totaling $42 million.

Okay. And maybe one last one for me. You talked about the mix improving. And I know this time of the year with the model year changeover, you usually see a little bit of a richer mix of larger units. Are you seeing an improvement beyond what you would expect normally from a seasonal perspective?

The mix of single-axle trailers has changed significantly over the past eight years. However, we've noticed a slowdown in momentum, with a meaningful retreat observed quarter-to-quarter. There’s a possibility that this could change next year and increase slightly, but our expectation is that it will remain around its current level based on discussions we've had with dealers, who are observing substantial retail activity. Many of these units are already in the market, which is likely to keep that number down, as there’s only so much demand for them. That's the straightforward answer, Joe.

Congrats on the very strong results as well. I just want to square something away with what the largest dealer indicated on their conference call yesterday, pretty much saying that they're starting to see some elasticity issues, particularly given some of the price increases that have been put through, I guess, related to tariffs. Have you seen any change or any commentary from your OEM customers of any potential change in behavior suggesting that maybe they want to pull back a little bit? Or is the comments we heard yesterday probably just more episodic or related to that dealer?

I think your last comment aligns with what I'm seeing. There is definitely a sensitivity to pricing in the market due to increases in RV costs. Several factors are influencing this situation. Looking ahead to next year, one key driver of volume will be the reduced capacity from suppliers and OEMs. Dealers need to plan their orders differently and further in advance to ensure they have products available for the spring selling season, as some capacity is limited. Additionally, Camping World does not partner with every OEM, which means there will be variations among brands in terms of success. On the positive side, Lippert supplies the entire market, including well-known brands like Forest River, Brinkley, and Alliance, providing us with a significant position. I communicate with a variety of dealers beyond just Camping World, and these discussions are shaping our projections for the coming year, in light of many favorable aspects.

Got it. Awesome. One of the major factors for your price increases was steel and aluminum. In the past, there has typically been a delay in passing on those price increases. It seems like you were quite effective in implementing those increases this time. I'm interested to know if this situation is different from the previous instance when steel and aluminum prices rose.

Yes, nothing's really changed there. I mean those 2 commodities are the largest components of our BOMs on the RV side. So they are all controlled largely by these indexes. So right now, steel is a good guy and aluminum is a bad guy. Aluminum pricing is going to be going up here for the next couple of quarters and steel pricing is starting to come down. So there'll be a little bit of offset there. There were some tariff announcements this morning that there will be some favorability. Hopefully, we don't have timing on that yet as it was just announced here in the last 24 hours. So I think the big headline for cost next year is the fact that tariffs seem to be at least settled in place where things are predictable, and we can start working on costs better, and we're going to work with our OEMs the best we can and the discipline that they've had to get real production back to make sure that we're getting them the best we can for costs and as they redo bill materials and recontent and decontent that we're a bigger part of the solution as possible.

Got it. And last one for me on the Aftermarket, very strong results, very resilient. I know you have a lot of traction from previous OEM introductions that you're working into the aftermarket. But just trying to get a sense of a breakdown of the business between the automotive side and the RV side. Is there a big difference in growth between the 2 right now?

So the RV aftermarket for us has grown sequentially almost since we've started it 10 years ago, a little over 10 years ago. The repair and replacement service business is growing always for us because we're always putting more content in the RV. So I'll go back to the example I used in my opening remarks of we launched air conditioning. We've launched a lot of products in the last 5 years, but we launched air conditioners a few years ago, I think I said in '22, we had maybe 5% of the total OEM content, but we had no aftermarket business in ACs. And today, if you fast forward, we've got probably 50% market share OEM, which is fantastic. But now we're seeing close to $20 million in AC aftermarket business this year. So again, the point is that when we launch new products, for most of the products we launch, there's a meaningful aftermarket once we penetrate the OEM business. So we expect the aftermarket business to continue to grow, especially with the tsunami of units that were built in 2020 to 2022 that like you're going to start hitting the repair and replacement cycle here in the next couple of years. And on the auto side, we've had a lot of great success against our largest competitor, who used to be Horizon Global, went to First Brands. And if you read anything about First Brands in the last month, they've got some serious issues. So our largest competitor, we're already starting to make some huge inroads here recently just because there's a lot of uncertainty around whether that business is going to continue to exist and who's going to own it. You look at the brands they have like Reese and Fulton and Bulldog, I mean, CURT is their largest competitor. So we've got some significant upside on that part of our business as it relates to the auto pitch and trailering components. So hopefully, that's helpful, Scott.

Can I confirm, I think you said $2 million from acquisitions in the quarter. And then have you quantified what you expect Bigfoot to contribute on an annual basis?

We've not. It's smaller. I mean MAS and Bigfoot are less than $25 million combined. And then for the quarter on acquisitions was $30 million.

$42 million total.

Okay. Great. And then for next year, how are you thinking about kind of the annualized tariff impact either on a gross or net basis or maybe both?

I think as we think about the tariffs for next year, really in terms of what we would expect is really a continuation of this year in terms of that mitigation. We've got the actions in place so that they're not impactful. So again, assuming that there's no changes with the global tariffs and they seem to have stabilized, I'd expect that we continue to have that full mitigation that we do presently going into next year.

It should be a lot easier.

Okay. And then just one last question. How long do you think it's going to take to kind of get that single-axle versus multi-axle and fifth-wheel mix kind of back to that, call it, 84-ish percent range?

It's hard to say. Camping World is effectively promoting that product in the market as they are the largest producer of that type of trailer. The strategy focuses on attracting more first-time buyers to the RV lifestyle because the entry price is under $12,000 in many cases. So it's difficult to predict, Tristan. However, we expect that it will normalize. It is unlikely to return to the levels of 10 years ago, but we believe it has a good chance of reaching around 16% again, especially as many of those who purchased that type of unit in the last 5 years may decide to trade up for a larger RV.

The next question comes from Bret Jordan of Jefferies.

This is CJ Dipollino on for Bret Jordan. I wanted to circle back to dealers real quick. Could you just give us any color into dealer sentiment and any insight into the probable timing of the restocking cycle as we move into the new year?

Yes, as I mentioned earlier, we engage with various major dealers to understand their positions since each dealer has a unique strategy and operates in different markets. The general sentiment is that inventory levels are low. The original equipment manufacturers have maintained good discipline, which has contributed to keeping inventories low, but dealers haven't been placing many orders. It's important to note that it's not just us who have streamlined operations; many suppliers and OEMs have done the same. Therefore, current capacity is below industry needs, and dealers are aware of this. They need to be cautious in their restocking efforts to avoid depleting inventory too much, as they may struggle to obtain products when demand increases for the spring selling season. This sentiment explains some of our current observations. Our forecast for the coming year is modest, estimating sales between 345,000 and 360,000 units. While it's not a significant increase, each additional 5,000 units in wholesale production is crucial for us, especially considering our content per unit is $5,400 and the upcoming innovations.

Okay. Great. And then could you just comment on trends in content that you're seeing? More specifically, I just want to see if the decontenting of RVs has started to stabilize.

I feel it has. And again, I've always said that we're a little immune to that just from the standpoint that we tend to have a lot of the products that customers need to differentiate their products from others. And those would be things like the Chill Cube AC that we've talked about, the bus dial, square windows that we've launched in the last 1.5 years with the different colors on the exteriors, TCS and ABS and things like that, they tend not to decontent those things. So the biggest thing that hurts us is mix when it comes to decontenting. It's just the biggest negative and content for us would be a mix shift. But like I said, we're seeing a shift to the positive at this point in time. And just another anecdotal thing I was just thinking about with the dealers. I was talking to a dealer the other day and their multisite dealer, their most popular floor plan they had or what they sell, they had 6 on the ground, which doesn't lend itself to good sales for the dealers if they don't have really popular floor plans in the right geographies. So I think that that's another reason we're seeing a little bit of positivity out there from some of the dealers that we're talking to. The last three years have been challenging as we've been at the bottom of the cycle, but we have managed to achieve peak operating performance during this low point. We are proud of the solid results we delivered in the last quarter and I look forward to discussing that ongoing momentum in the next quarter. Thank you for the call.

This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.