Mechanics Bancorp Q2 FY2026 Earnings Call

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Mechanics Bancorp Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the conference will be opened for questions with instructions to follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Nathan Duda, Chief Financial Officer of Mechanics. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining our earnings conference call. With me here today are CJ Johnson, our President and CEO, and Carl Webb, our Executive Chairman. The related earnings press release and earnings presentation are available on the news and events section of our Investor Relations website. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that any forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated future results. Please see our safe harbor statements in our earnings press release and in our earnings presentation. All comments expressed or implied made during today's call are subject to those safe harbor statements. Any forward-looking statements made during this call are made only as of today's date, and we do not undertake any duties to update such forward-looking statements except as required by law. Additionally, during today's call, we may discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful in evaluating our performance. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures can also be found in our earnings release and in the earnings presentation. CJ, let me hand it over to you.

Thank you, Nathan, and good morning. We appreciate everyone joining our call and for your interest in Mechanics Bancorp. I'll start today by summarizing the highlights of our second quarter performance. I'll also provide another strategic update on the bank before handing things off to Nathan to review our financials in more detail. Carl, Nathan, and I will then open up the call for your questions. With that, let's turn to slide four. We had a nice second quarter reporting $57.7 million in net income. On a fully diluted basis, we earned 25 cents per share, and our tangible book value per share increased to $7.56. This quarter, we paid a large dividend of 70 cents per share, with the major driver being the successful closure of our DUS business line sale to fifth third in early May. Q2 did have a few non-core items, which I'll walk you through quickly. We had three one-time non-interest income adjustments, including a $1.8 million MSR valuation gain, a final true-up of $900,000 related to the dust sale, and a $600,000 loss on a sale of an old branch property that's been closed for a while. We also incurred $5.9 million of merger expenses, primarily severance, as we finished up our Home Street integration and had a significant amount of headcount reduction as a result. We also had a negative provision of $2.8 million, which we backed out of our core results. When you adjust for these items, we earn $59 million of core net income for the quarter, representing a core ROAA of 1.1% and a core ROA TCE of 14.7%. Our total assets are now $21.2 billion, with total gross loans of $13.6 billion, total deposits of $18.1 billion, and tangible shareholders' equity of $1.75 billion. Our deposits decreased $153 million this quarter, with $199 million of the decline from high-cost CD balances, and with the pace of CD decline down substantially from Q1. Non-maturity balances grew $46 million, but we did see some mixed shift into money market accounts from non-interest-bearing accounts. We expect CDs to continue declining modestly in the third quarter, but overall we think total deposits should begin to grow from here on out. Notably, intangibles decreased $107 million in Q2, driven by the dust business line sale. Our capital ratios remain robust with a 14.4% CET1 ratio and an 8.7% Tier 1 leverage ratio. Net charge-offs for the quarter were minimal again with only 0.6 basis points or 220,000 of non-auto net charge-offs. Also our runoff auto loans continue to perform in line with expectations with net charge-offs continue to drop each quarter as the auto portfolio seasons. Our ACL dropped one basis point to 1.12% of loans driven by the modest negative provisions I mentioned a bit ago. Our Our allowance remains a very robust 2.57 times our total non-performing assets as of 630. Our cost of deposits was 1.25% in the second quarter, down 3 BIPs from Q1, but our spot cost of deposits at 630 was back to 1.28%, primarily due to mixed shift and stiff deposit competition. Our NIM was 3.62% for the quarter, up one basis point, and our CRE concentration ratio drops to 342% from 348% in Q1. It is only 97% if you exclude lower risk multifamily loans. Turning to slide five, I'd like to provide you with an update on some of the key strategic initiatives happening at the bank. We have now substantially completed our HomeStreet integration and it's good to get back to business as usual. By any measure, the merger with HomeStreet was a financial and strategic success. But it certainly was a heavy lift operationally, and I want to once again thank our dedicated employees for a job well done. As I mentioned previously, we had 5.9 million of one-time merger charges in the quarter, which was mostly severance as our FTE went from 1890 to 1756 Q over Q. A lot of that expense reduction benefit will show up in our Q3 NIE figures. We remain on track to deliver on our budgeted cost synergies from the merger and reiterate our prior guidance of achieving an annual run rate non-interest expense, excluding CDI, of approximately $430 million by the fourth quarter of this year. Strong earnings, deleveraging of the balance sheet post-merger, and the successful dust business line sale generated substantial capital in the first half of 2026 with $255 million, or $1.10 per Class A share in dividends, paid to investors so far this year. That, on its own, implies a dividend yield of roughly 7% year-to-date. In addition, we continue to have approximately $100 million of excess capital above our 8.25% tier 1 leverage ratio target at 630. We expect to pay a $56 million dividend or $0.25 per Class A share in Q3, and then another larger $75 million to $100 million dividend in Q4, subject to board and regulatory approval. We can also efficiently use our excess capital generated by a smaller, less risky balance sheet to enhance future earnings and expect to execute a modest restructuring of our remaining low-yielding AFS securities in Q3. The highlights of our planned restructuring includes selling approximately $310 million of 1.78% yielding AFS securities and reinvesting in MBS at current market rates close to 5.5%, which will result in a $25 million after-tax loss that would be earned back in four to five years. The AFS restructuring will improve our near-term NIM, but we expect that benefit to be somewhat offset over time by increased deposit pricing pressure and auto runoff. Our modeling assumptions continue to assume a flat forward curve with no short-term rate hikes or cuts. We will also evaluate a sale of the remaining auto loans in the coming quarters, and if we decide to sell, it will be at a modest loss. We also could decide to continue servicing the auto loans out through maturity. We continue to expect a 17% to 18% ROATCE and a 1.3% to 1.4% ROAA in 2027 and beyond. Let's flip to slide 6, which shows an overview of Mechanics Bancorp today. We have $21.2 billion in assets with 166 branches and great deposit market share across the West Coast, with a branch map spanning from Mexico to Canada and out to Hawaii. Our key stats compare very favorably to all publicly traded banks, $10 to $100 billion in assets, but the ones I like to focus on the most are risk-weighted assets to total assets of 58%, which ranks second, and a new one this quarter, our expected 2027 dividend yield of approximately 7%, which assumes cash dividends next year of $250 million. Our 7% expected dividend yield ranks first by a wide margin, despite taking very little risk with either our funding base or our earning assets. Stopping briefly on slide 7, we continue to be the fourth largest West Coast and California bank by deposits when measuring community banks with less than $250 billion in assets. Our unique franchise has been built over many years and, without a doubt, has tremendous scarcity value. It's been a few quarters since we included slide 8, but I wanted to refresh new investors on our market share breakdown in many highly attractive West Coast MSAs, including top 10 ranks in San Francisco, Seattle, and all across the Central Coast of California. California is an economically vibrant state that has the fifth largest GDP in the world, if it was its own country, and Seattle is one of the fastest growing large cities in the United States. We really like our market positioning post-merger and are looking forward to focusing on core deposit growth now that the integration is behind us. Slide 9 is a detailed look at the evolution of our unique deposit base, which we believe is one of the most attractive on the West Coast. Our average deposit size is only 43,000 per account with an average relationship tenure of 19 years. We also have a highly diversified customer base with 49% consumer accounts, 43% business accounts, and 8% public funds with no broker deposits. Our focus is on profitably growing core relationships. The top right chart shows this as prior to our merger with Home Street, we grew core deposits over $600 million since the third quarter of 2019, despite closing 32 branches after our acquisition of Rabobank's California franchise. After merging with Home Street, we deliberately let non-core hot CDs leave the bank as we prioritized capital efficiency and looked to minimize risk. The two charts on the bottom left and the bottom right highlight the strong relative position of our deposit base versus the broader U.S. banking industry. Slide 10 looks back over the past decade on the exceptional credit quality of our commercial loan portfolio. Since 2016, we've had no losses on construction or multifamily loans and only a few minor charge-offs on acquired commercial loans from both Rabobank and Home Street. Our credit team has a tremendous amount of experience managing through economic cycles, and we fully expect to continue our strong credit performance in the coming years. I've reworked slide 11 a bit, but this really is key to our investment thesis. The strength of our deposits and the efficiency with which we run our bank, from both an expense and a capital management standpoint, allow us to post great returns despite having one of the lowest risk mix of assets in the country. In turn, our strong financial performance allows us to pay a market-leading dividend yield of approximately 7%. The point I will continue to emphasize is that we will pay these significant dividends despite a very conservative balance sheet and credit profile relative to our banking peers. Over time, we hope to earn a premium earnings multiple given the superior risk-adjusted returns and the lower risk cash flows we generate for our investors. To wrap up my section, let's turn to slide 12, which summarizes the investment highlights of Mechanics Bancorp. First and foremost, we have fantastic market share across the West Coast with a branch footprint and customer mix that's nearly impossible to replicate. We are also very profitable due to our top-notch deposits and simple, efficient business model despite taking relatively little risk. We are a core funded bank with an exceptional track record of credit outperformance and we're also very well capitalized with a liquid balance sheet. We are prudent with our capital and will continue to pay out substantial dividends with a market-leading dividend yield. There's also complete alignment between our public and private investors as Ford Financial Fund owns 74% of the company. Finally, we have an experienced management team with strong operating and M&A track records. With that, let me turn the call over to Nathan to dig into more detail on our second quarter results. We've also added a few new pages this quarter, which I think you will find helpful.

Thank you, CJ. Starting on slide 14, for the second quarter, net interest income declined $1.9 million or 1% to $177.2 million compared to the linked quarter. Average interest earning assets declined approximately $468 million during the quarter, driven primarily by lower loan balances. Our net interest margin increased one basis point to 3.62%, driven by lower funding costs as the total cost of deposits declined to 1.25 percent from 1.28 percent in the first quarter. The improvement was primarily attributable to the continued runoff and repricing of higher-cost legacy Home Street certificates of deposit, which declined approximately $199 million during the quarter. Second quarter interest income included $13.2 million of discount accretion on loans acquired in the Home Street transaction, compared to $12.7 million in the first quarter. As of June 30, 2026, we had approximately $136 million of remaining discount on those acquired loans. Lastly, earning asset mix remained relatively stable during the quarter, with a modest reduction in cash balances partially offset by additional investment securities purchases. Turning to slide 15, this slide highlights one of the most important drivers of our future earnings growth. As we've discussed previously, the Legacy Mechanics balance sheet contains approximately $4.8 billion of lower-yielding assets with a weighted average yield of 3.12%, comprised primarily of multifamily loans, single-family residential loans, and held to maturity securities. Over time, these assets will mature, pay down, or otherwise repriced and can be reinvested at current market rates. More than half of this portfolio, or approximately $2.8 billion, is expected to turn over within the next five years. If reinvested at current market rates, that represents approximately 260 basis points of potential yield pickup relative to the existing portfolio. Importantly, this opportunity is already embedded within our balance sheet and does not require balance sheet growth or a change in our conservative risk profile. As these assets continue to reprice over time, we expect them to provide a meaningful tailwind to future net interest income and margin expansion. Turning to slide 16, we put together this illustrative example of the potential impact of short-term rate changes by comparing our variable assets to our rate-sensitive deposits, which include our time deposits, and estimating the NII impact of those rate changes. As you can see, we expect a meaningful reduction in NII for any rate hikes in the short term and would benefit from any rate cuts. I would note that the actual impact of rate hikes will diminish over time as more of the bank's fixed-rate loans amortize, mature, or pay off, and the bank reinvests those proceeds at market rates. Turning to slide 17, non-interest income increased $2.8 million, or 13%, to $23.8 million as compared to the first quarter. The increase was primarily driven by approximately $2.2 million of non-recurring income items, which are highlighted on the slide. Excluding these items, underlying non-interest income increased modestly from the prior quarter as trust fees increased approximately $0.4 million and bank card royalty income increased approximately $0.5 million, partially offset by $0.3 million decline in loan servicing income. Turning to slide 18, non-interest expense decreased $6 million, or 4.6%, to $124.5 million compared to $130.4 million in the first quarter. Merger-related expenses totaled $5.9 million during the quarter compared to $4.8 million in the prior quarter and were primarily comprised of severance costs associated with the final phase of our HomeStreet integration. Excluding these merger-related expenses, non-interest expense declined $7.1 million from the linked quarter, driven primarily by lower salaries and employee benefits expense reflecting headcount reductions and the realization of core conversion synergies following the successful home street conversion. As a result, our efficiency ratio improved to 58.4% compared to 61.6% in the first quarter. Excluding CDI amortization, annualized core non-interest expense was approximately $445 million during the quarter, and we remain on track to achieve our previously communicated run rate non-interest expense target of approximately $430 million by the fourth quarter of 2026. Turning to slide 19, loan interest income declined $3 million, or 1.7%, to $178.2 million compared to the first quarter. Loan yields declined three basis points to 5.22%, driven primarily by modestly lower contractual yields and changes in portfolio portfolio mix as residential and consumer balances grew as a percentage of the portfolio. Multifamily and single-family residential yields declined 8 and 11 basis points respectively, reflecting lower discount accretion and modest pressure on contractual yields. During the quarter, CNI yields increased due primarily to approximately $1 million of discount accretion recognized on a small subset of loans. The CRE concentration ratio improved to 342% at quarter end, from 348% at March 31st. During the quarter, we originated approximately $756 million of loan commitments, predominantly in construction, single-family residential, and other consumer categories, and sold approximately $32 million of loans, primarily multifamily debts and single-family residential loans. Turning to slide 20, our commercial real estate portfolio remains well diversified and continues to reflect our long-standing focus on lower-risk multifamily lending. Multifamily represents approximately 71% of the total CRE portfolio, with an average loan size of $4 million, an average LTV of 56%, and an average debt coverage ratio of 1.55 times. The remainder of the CRE portfolio is broadly distributed across retail, office, industrial, hotel, and mixed-use categories, each with relatively modest exposure and conservative credit characteristics. At quarter end, our CRE concentration ratio was 342 percent or 96 percent excluding multi-family loans. We continue to make progress reducing higher risk segments inherited through the Home Street merger. Legacy Home Street syndicated loan balances declined from approximately $142 million at September 30, 2025 to approximately $69 million at June 30, 2026. In addition, construction and owner-occupied CRE balances continued to decline during the quarter, reflecting our disciplined approach to balance sheet risk management. Importantly, we continue to have no exposure to non-depository financial institutions. Technology-related exposure represents less than 1% of our C&I portfolio, and office exposure remains modest at approximately 8% of total CRE with conservative average LTVs and debt coverage ratios. Turning to slide 21, you can see both Legacy Mechanics' strong historical asset quality trends and the impact of the home street merger mechanics has consistently maintained excellent credit quality with minimal non-auto charge-offs and a low level of non-performing assets as showed on the slide the majority of our historical charge-offs have been auto-related and that portfolio continues to perform better than our original expectations as it runs off non-auto net charge-offs were just one basis point annualized during the second quarter At June 30th, non-performing assets represented 0.28% of total assets, compared to 0.25% on March 31st. The increase was primarily driven by a modest increase in non-performing loans, including certain single-family, home equity, and multi-family relationships, partially offset by the sale of foreclosed assets during the quarter. Our allowance for credit losses totaled 1.12% of total loans at quarter end, compared to 1.13% in the prior quarter. During the second quarter, we recorded a $2.8 million reversal of provision expense, primarily reflecting the elimination of qualitative factor adjustments established in the first quarter and a reduction in the reserves for unfunded commitments. Our ACL remains robust at approximately 2.6 times non-performing assets. Turning to slide 22, securities interest income was essentially unchanged at $53.1 million during the second quarter compared to the linked quarter. Securities yields also remain stable at 3.97 percent during the quarter. The securities portfolio increased approximately 156 million at quarter end, primarily driven by additional purchases of agency mortgage-backed securities. Securities available for sale increased approximately 186 million, while health and maturity securities declined modestly due to normal paydowns. Overall, the portfolio continues used to provide stable earnings and liquidity while maintaining a conservative risk profile. Turning to slide 23, total deposits declined $153 million during the quarter, driven by a $199 million reduction in the higher cost-time deposits partially offset by growth and non-maturity deposits. This contributed to a $1.8 million, or 3%, decline in the deposit interest expense compared to the prior quarter. Total cost of deposits improved to 1.25 percent, down three basis points from the first quarter, driven primarily by the continued runoff of higher cost legacy Home Street time deposits. The average cost of our time deposits was down to 2.45 percent for the second quarter. I would note that the spot cost of deposits at June 30th was 1.28 percent, which reflects some competitive pressures that we are seeing in our markets. Lastly, non-interest-bearing deposits represented 35% of total deposits at quarter end. Turning to capital and liquidity on slide 25, we remain very well capitalized with a 14.4% CET1 ratio and an 8.7% Tier 1 leverage ratio at June 30th. Available liquidity totaled approximately $15.9 billion at quarter end. Book value per share was $12.15 at quarter end, while tangible book value per share increased to $7.56. During the second quarter, we paid dividends totaling $0.70 per Class A share, bringing year-to-date dividends to $1.10 per share. As CJ discussed earlier, our strong capital position continues to support significant capital returns to shareholders. Subject to board and regulatory approval, we currently expect to pay a dividend of approximately $0.25 per Class A share in the third quarter, followed by an approximately $75 million to $100 million dividend in the fourth quarter. That concludes our prepared remarks. We will now open the line for questions.

We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Woody Lay with KBW. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. i wanted to wanted to start on the deposit uh trends that you saw in the quarter and you know as you highlighted there was a little bit of of mix shift and the spot cost is is um i think a little bit higher than where we were average so i was just interested to know how or just interested in your thoughts on how you think that mix shift trends over the back half of the year and and it sounds like um you know there could be a little more pressure on the deposit costs front over the back half of the year?

Yeah, I'll start and I'll see if Carl and Nathan want to add anything. It's a good question. Obviously, in the, you know, second quarters and we saw kind of rates back up, I think we've seen and we've priced up a bit on some of our CDs and some of our money markets as we've seen rate competition increase in the market. And so and And we also had, you know, at the end of March, a lower spot rate, April is tax season, so there's a little bit of noise there in the cost. As a data point, in the month of June, our deposit costs rose .08 basis points, so slightly less than one basis point. So we saw a bit of pickup really in May, the deposit costs slowed down in June. We do expect, Woody, that a mix shift will continue through the rest of the year. We are seeing some continued mix shift into money market. Our CDs will continue to decline a bit. So we expect deposit costs to increase modestly through the rest of the year. Overall, very encouraged by just general pipelines and kind of the refocus that we have on growing the core business. Obviously, it's very competitive out there, but we've got, you know, our deposit base is very low cost to begin with, so it's when we have these elevated rates and a lot of competition in our markets, it creates a bit of pressure. But overall, we still feel very, you know, really solid about our deposit base. I don't know, Nathan or Carl, do you want to add anything to that?

Yeah, I just know that we've seen a consistent pickup in our CD renewal rate in the second quarter um obviously right off the acquisition um on purpose it was relatively low but in the second quarter we saw that pick up to historical levels and our renewal rate um overall in the entire cd portfolio uh is still relatively low off the cds being lower than our money market accounts at the end of the second quarter uh so we feel that's a positive trend um but yeah there's certainly been uh yeah i'd now say we kind of have all deposits are core right our cd costs are

are very solid. There's still some pressure, there's a lot of competition there, but I think we've basically gotten through what we wanted to do, which was manage out high-rate seekers, non-core relationships. You've actually seen our tenure, average tenure in our strats that we share go from 17 years to 19 years, and that's also a function of some of these rate-seeking CDs moving on, and that also creates a lot of excess capital for us.

Yeah, that's really helpful color. And then maybe just as my follow up on the loans or on the asset side, and I appreciate slide 15. It's, you know, super helpful color that you provide. And it's pretty interesting to see, you know, the rate on multifamily loans is only 30 basis points higher than the new securities. So, you know, given a pretty tight spread there, how does that impact your thoughts on where you see asset growth, you know, as you get some of these cash flows from both the bond and the loan side?

Yeah, that's a good question. I think Carl and I and Nathan, we talk about it. There's not a lot of incremental spread between where we're seeing commercial real estate, multifamily, relative to where we can reinvest in like-duration securities. And so we put a lot of effort to try to be prudent about where we're lending, who we're lending to. We want to lend to core client relationships. A lot of the multifamily relationships we've had go back decades. And so it's an allocation, and I think you'll continue to see us manage our commercial real estate down modestly, and we'll eventually get below that 300% level. We've made good progress on that, and it will continue. But yeah, as some of that CRE, low-yielding CRE, rolls off, the reinvestment rate in securities is pretty competitive, and it's also a lot lower risk. And that's a trade that we've been willing to make, and I think we'll continue to see some of that.

Got it. Well, thanks for taking my question.

Thanks, Woody.

Thank you for your question. Moving forward, please feel free to ask as many questions as you like. Our next question comes from the line of Tim Mitchell with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. This is Tim on for David. I'm going to follow up on Woody's question there and just talk about the outlook for the margin, all the details he gave on 515. It's great. You have a lot of tailwinds just from backflick repricing. Now you have the bond restructure, you know, some continued runoff of the CDE book. We also noted some potential pressure kind of on the deposit cost side, just given the competitive backdrop. So could you just, like, overall help us kind of unpack some of the puts and takes for the margin and where you think, you know, the core margin can shake out over the next few quarters?

Sure. I'm happy to go first. You know, there's a couple of moving pieces. We did want to add these two new slides to try to give investors additional insights and detail into kind of our near-term, short-term sensitivity to changes in Fed funds, up or down. We are modestly liability sensitive, as you can see on page 16, where we have a greater amount of rate-sensitive deposits than we do floating rate assets. And so rates down, near term is good for us. Rates up, near term would be a modest drag. Try to provide more information there, and we'll see how that develops in the coming quarters. Long run, we feel very positive that there will be margin expansion given the repricing we have on a lot of these very low-yielding $4.8 billion at 3.12% that are cash-flowing. that those capsules will pick up, and there's a lot of margin enhancement that comes from that over the long run. So it's, I think you'll, and then we also, on top of that, we are, you know, plan to execute an AFS restructure that, you know, we've sold the remaining 310 million low-yielding securities we had in the AFS portfolio. You know, we already had that out up our tangible equity. We expect a four- to five-year earnback. That'll be a modest bump to margin near term and into next year. And you bring up, again, a good point that we do – but we do expect the deposit cost to increase modestly from here on out. So, that'll offset it somewhat. We expect modest NIM improvement in a flat rate environment. If we get rate hikes, that would to cut into it.

Okay, that's super helpful. Thank you. And then just on the size of the balance sheet overall, it's obviously kind of declined the past couple quarters. There are a lot of moving parts here as you continue to optimize it post-merger. But if you could just kind of walk us through some of the puts and takes around when we could see the size of the balance sheet stabilize and start to grow a little bit. Obviously, loan originations were up nicely this quarter, but also understand there may be some work to be done on the auto book and maybe some multifamily portfolios. Thanks.

Yeah, sure. From a balance sheet overall size standpoint, it's going to be driven really by our deposits. And I think we have reached the bottom of our deposit decline. We expect to grow modestly. I would say modestly grow 1%, 2% ish. Moving forward on deposits, I do think there'll be some continued mix shift and a bit of pressure on costs, but that should stabilize. And on the asset side, I think there'll be continued remixing. We are growing single family and HELOC modestly and our partnership with Inclined on lending against the cash runner value of whole life is growing nicely. We will continue to be prudent on commercial real estate, construction lending, CNI. We're selectively looking at all of our relationships and making sure we feel like they're priced appropriately on a risk-adjusted basis. I don't know, Carl, if you want to add anything to that.

No, I think that's the balance sheet. I don't see it.

Awesome. Thank you. And then since they took the question cap off, I'll ask one more just on capital.

Obviously, the ratio has continued to build.

The HomeStreet integration is kind of moving into the rear view mirror. So just kind of curious your updated thoughts around M&A. There's been some deals in your footprint recently. I'm just kind of curious you could give us an update on your attitude, you know, what conversations are like and just your overall thoughts there.

Yeah, I'll make a couple of quick comments and then CJ and Nathan can certainly join in. You know, I understand the question because you look at the patent extremely acquisitive. We've never tried to do a transaction we've always defined better as it relates to franchise value, namely liabilities, deposit costs. And I think when you've got clearly top decile deposits in a deposit franchise, it makes it very difficult for M&A opportunities, particularly in our geographic footprint, that being the West Coast. So we're just coming off an extremely successful deal. We still had digestion to do and some assimilation with Homestreet. I tend to think that our biggest bang for our buck, our resources internally to do there. Although I think our integration, our conversion, our transition of mechanics platform is going very, very well. A lot of people get a lot of credit for that. But so I don't see anything on the horizon right now because it does have to meet this deposit. I think that, you know, that's increasingly a high bar for M&A candidate to chin for it to be attracted to us. So we're not going to do anything just for the sake of getting larger. And it has to help us on the deposit franchise side. And that's hard.

I don't really have anything to add to that.

Awesome. Well, thank you guys for taking my questions.

Thank you.

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. Your next question comes from the line of David Rochester with Cantor. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. Morning, Dave. Morning. I just wanted to touch on the guidance I think you had last quarter for 2027 GAT net income in that $275 to $300 million range. I realize it's a long way off and a lot happens between now and then, but still wanted to get your updated thoughts on that range, just given the results, your comments on deposit pricing, and just on the loan front as well. Thanks.

Sure, Dave. Yeah, no problem. I'll take that. Yeah, I think our guidance is very consistent with what it was last time. We want to focus on the ROTC target. And I think when you take the 17% ROTC for 27, it should fall right in that same net income range. And it is, as you know, it's hard to forecast out into 27. There's moving pieces, but we have a significant amount of confidence in, you know, kind of ever-increasing ROTC. We're about 15% today. I think that's going to be up next quarter, and we've got some tailwinds heading into 27 on repricing and just generally being efficient. I feel very good about our expense guide. I feel very good about our credit, and I feel, you know, increasingly positive about, kind of, you know, deposits, you know, bottoming out and looking to grow those moving forward. So that's, that's my thought on that.

Okay, great. I mean, you just mentioned the expense guide, but it also, I think earlier you mentioned getting a lot of those cost saves hitting the third quarter. Are you expecting to get pretty close to that 430 in the third quarter and then kind of leveling out at fourth and fourth quarter?

Yeah, I mean, we did, you know, The core conversion was completed at the end of March. There was a lot of layoffs as part of mergers that happened in this quarter. Our headcount, I think, was down 130-something in the quarter. So a lot of layoffs, a lot of that happened later in the quarter. So, yeah, I think you'll see a pretty substantial pickup or reduction. in our non-interest expense in the third quarter. And I think some of that will even continue into the fourth quarter. So I feel pretty confident about that. And we should also see a significant reduction in the one-time charges related to the merger. We just don't – there'll still be a couple things. There'll be some leases here or there, but we're basically through it.

Yeah. Okay. Maybe one on capital. And you mentioned having $100 million in excess at the end of June. How much cushion would you guys target to have at the end of 4Q after something like a cleanup dividend, which is kind of implied by that range that you gave, the $75 to $100 billion, which is above our estimate and consensus at this point?

Just trying to get a sense for how you think about that going forward. yeah so we are so we're kind of managing to eight and a quarter one quarter in arrears which effectively puts us at 8.5 leverage ratio 8.6 leverage ratio the bank is generating a lot of capital um and and our risk weighted assets continue to drop uh and so we're now at a 14.4 percent cet1 i think you know peers i i look at i don't know maybe around 11 percent average 12 average, something like that. So we have a lot of capital flexibility, and I think that creates optionality. We are gonna continue to pay a lot of dividends. We feel confident in the $250 million dividend guide for next year that we mentioned. And I guess the main thing I'd say is we're probably still running with capital above peers, and that gives us some flexibility.

Yeah, okay. one last one on the margin you've talked a lot about this already but just with the restructuring you mentioned you got the deposit cost comments it seems like you're looking for maybe a little bit of a bump in the third quarter um do you stabilize at that point and then kind of grind higher you mentioned you know NIM maybe you know increasing modestly in this kind of rate backdrop so that would assume that these rates continue to hold but is that kind of how you're thinking about it yeah i think when we looked at this quarter's results and you know the continued generation of capital we we have you know adjusted some of our assumptions around deposit growth and betas

and mix shift that that would be a negative to earnings obviously the afs restructure where we you know again we have all this capital we can use it sometimes to to add earnings moving forward i think that basically offsets it and so that's why we think our guidance is relatively consistent with last quarter due to those competing factors. We do think over the long run, our margin should increase, and the short run, it's going to be pretty dependent on what the Fed does in hikes. Either way, it's not going to be a huge needle mover to our NAM, which should remain pretty strong.

Okay, great. Thanks, guys.

Thanks.

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to C.J. Johnson for closing remarks.

Thank you, Operator, and to all who joined us today. As we close out the quarter, we believe Mechanics Bancorp is exceptionally well positioned. The home street integration is substantially complete. Expenses continue to trend favorably. Credit quality remains strong. And we maintain capital levels that are among the strongest in our peer group. We also believe the earnings power of the franchise continues to improve. improve. We have meaningful embedded asset repricing opportunities, significant flexibility to optimize our balance sheet, and the ability to deploy excess capital in ways that enhance shareholder value. Perhaps most importantly, we continue to offer shareholders a unique combination of low-risk earnings, a strong and granular deposit franchise, substantial excess capital, and what we believe is one of the most attractive dividend yields in the banking industry. We are proud of the progress we made since closing the Home Street acquisition, confident in the opportunities ahead, and focused on delivering attractive long-term returns for our shareholders. Thanks for your time today. We look forward to speaking with you next quarter.

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