Old Second Bancorp Inc (OSBC) Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Old Second Bancorp Inc.'s Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. On the call today are Jim Ecker, the company's chairman, president, and CEO, Brad Adams, the company's COO and CFO, Darren Campbell, the company's head of national specialty lending, and Gary Collins, the vice chairman of our board. I will start with a reminder that Old Second's comments today will contain forward-looking statements about the company's business, strategies, and prospects, which are based on management's existing expectations in the current economic environment. These statements are not a guarantee of future performance, and results may differ materially from those projected. Management would ask you to refer to the company's SEC filings for a full discussion of the company's risk factors. The company does not undertake any duty to update such forward-looking statements. On today's call, we will also be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP measures are described and reconciled to their GAAP counterparts in our earnings release, which is available on our website at oldsecond.com on the homepage and under the Investor Relations tab. Now I will turn it over to Jim Ecker.

Okay, good morning and thank you for joining us. As customary, I have several prepared opening remarks, give my overview of the quarter, then turn it over to Brad for additional details. I will then conclude with certain summary comments and thoughts about the future before we open it up to Q&A. From a GAAP perspective, net income was $28.2 million, or $0.54 per diluted share in the second quarter, and return on assets was 1.65%. Second quarter, 2026, return on average tangible common equity was 15.58%, and the tax equivalent efficiency ratio was 51.72%. Excluding all adjusting items, which include MSR valuation adjustments and the costs related to the 2025 acquisition of Bancorp Financial and its wholly owned subsidiary Evergreen bank group. Net income for the quarter was $28.7 million, or 55 cents per diluted share. Second quarter earnings were impacted by $9.2 million of net loan charge-offs, which primarily included two credits that we discussed at length on last quarter's earnings call. A commercial and industrial charge-off of $3 million in the warehousing and distribution business that has seen its cash flow position erode over the last year. A commercial real estate investor charge off of $2.8 million. That was an office property located in a western suburb of Chicago. This was an acquired credit. It was restructured into an AB note in 2023 due to challenges facing the office market. At the time of the restructure, the B note was fully secured by the value of the underlying collateral, but has recently experienced a decline in value, and based on an updated valuation, the B note's collectability is now in doubt and was charged off. The B note was previously fully allocated for prior quarters and a portion of the note was accounted for in purchase accounting adjustments as a result of the acquisition of Evergreen Bank Group. The property continues to produce cash flow adequately to support the A note at this time. Net charge offs related to the Power Sport business totaled $2.8 million, which is a $1.1 million reduction from the prior quarter as seasonality related to this loan portfolio usually results in higher usage of ATVs and UTVs that are collateral for these loans during the spring and summer months. I would note that the contribution margin in this business has continued to trend higher and remains robust. Tangible book value per share increased to $14.77 at the end of the quarter from 14.35 at last quarter. The tangible equity ratio increased 12 basis points from last quarter from 11.07 to 11.19% and is 36 basis points higher than the like period one year ago. Common equity tier one was 13.28% in the second quarter of 2026, increasing from 13.13% last quarter, but decreased 49 basis points from one year ago. This decline is primarily due to stock repurchases of approximately $40.2 million during 2026. Our financials reflect an exceptionally strong net interest margin of 5.23% for the second quarter that's a nine basis point improvement for last quarter and 38 basis point increase over the prior year light quarter on a tax equivalent basis. Pre-provision net revenues increased in the second quarter from the prior quarter primarily due to day count, higher average balances, and lower average time time deposit balances. Total cost of deposits was 100 basis points for the second quarter compared to 105 basis points for the prior link quarter and 84 basis points for the second quarter of 2025. For the second quarter of 2026, compared to last quarter, tax equivalent income on average earning assets increased $2.8 million, while interest expense on average bearing liabilities increased $658,000. The loan to deposit ratio stands at 96.4% as of June 30th compared to 93.2% last quarter and 83.3% as of June 30th, 2025. Total loans increased $60.6 million during the second quarter, partially reversing seasonal declines in the previous quarter. Tax equivalent loan yields Loans increased 12 basis points during the second quarter of 2026 compared to the link quarter and reflected a 63 basis point increase for the quarter year over year. The increase in yield in comparison to the prior quarter is driven by higher short term rates and repricing of lower yielding loans that were originated in 2021 and 2022. Turning to credit, asset quality trends improved during the quarter despite the elevated charge charge-offs, non-performing loans decreased $19 million, and classified assets declined $16.5 million. In general, our collateral position remained stable on classified assets. We recorded $9.2 million of net charge-offs in the second quarter, with the majority stemming from the PowerSports portfolio and one relationship each in commercial real estate investor and commercial. Overall, we're pleased with the credit trends as NPAs declined 25% in the quarter. The allowance for credit losses on loans was 70.4 million as of June 30th, or 1.34% of loans from 72.1 million at March 31st, 2026, which was 1.39% of loans. Unemployment and GDP forecast used in the future loss rate assumptions remain fairly static from last quarter, with no material changes in the unemployment assumptions on the upper end of the range based on recent Fed projections. The impact of global terror volatility in the war in Iran continues to be considered within our modeling. Provision levels quarter over linked quarter decreased by 2.5 million to 7.5 million and were partially driven by significant movements and delinquencies when compared to the forecast period resulting in a negative qualitative adjustments. Additionally, some larger charge-offs taken during the quarter had been provided for or were allocated for in prior quarters. Broadly, we are encouraged at the positive credit trends with the reduction in non-performing assets and classified assets quarter over late quarter. The office portfolio continues to be under pressure broadly with valuations coming in at its steep discounts to prior levels and rents declining broadly. The good news is we don't have anything classified in that vertical and very much of it on a relative base, it only represents about 3% of the portfolio. Non-interest income increased $631,000 or 5% in the quarter compared to the prior linked quarter and a $2.4 million increase or 21.7% from the prior year like quarter. Wealth management had a strong quarter. Income was up there $245,000 quarter over linked quarter and increased $525,000 compared to the prior year linked quarter. Mortgage banking income increased $97,000 compared to the link quarter. It increased $543,000 compared to the like period a year ago, primarily due to the changes in mortgage servicing rights, mark-to-market valuations. MSR valuation was flat quarter over link quarter. However, excluding the impact of mortgage servicing rights, mark-to-market adjustments, mortgage banking income increased $164,000 over the prior year-like period. Other income declined $176,000 in the second quarter compared to the prior link quarter and increased to $551,000 compared to the prior year-like quarter, driven largely by PowerSport loan service fees and dealer chargebacks and lease syndication fees. Total non-interest expense for the second quarter increased $1 million from the prior link quarter driven by higher officer incentive and employee insurance costs within salaries and employee benefits. Elevated OREO expenses as the first quarter of 2026 realized net gains on property sales as well as gap insurance refunds related to legacy evergreen activity within other expense. Altogether our efficiency ratio continues to be excellent as the tax equivalent efficiency ratio adjusted to exclude co-deposit and tangible amortization, OREO cost, and the adjustments to net income, as noted earlier, was 50.8% for the second quarter compared to 51.7% for the first quarter. Overall, the bank continues to perform at an exceptionally high level. Operating leverage is strong, the margin is stable, and fee income businesses are performing well. We're doing a nice job of adding additional talent throughout the organization. Credit is on an improving trend and I'm hopeful that we will soon be able to demonstrate the full earnings power at Old Second. I'll now turn it over to Brad for additional color.

Thanks, Jim. I'll be brief. There's not a lot from my corner of the world. Net interest income increased to $83.3 million for the quarter relative to last quarter's $81.1 million and increased by $19 million or almost 30% from the year ago, like quarter. The interesting thing about this quarter is tax equivalent loan yields increased by 12 basis points and securities yields increased by 6 basis points. That is the fundamental driver of what I guess I would call a margin surprise, increase of 9 basis points relative to our expectations of giving back a few. And that largely stemmed from interest rate increases along the curve, particularly in so far and overnight index swap rates that began after kind of instability in the Middle East kicked up and price of oil went up and all that, none of which I expected. worked out well, I guess. Obviously, the margins are ridiculously good at this point. 5.23 relative to 5.14 last quarter, 38 basis points up year over year. We did have some loan growths this quarter on an average basis. It was only $14 million. Obviously, Jim went through the period end. Deposit runoff was a little higher than I expected. It came down, which I did not expect I would say that both loan and deposit market competition is very robust right now we are seeing that both in terms of pricing and structure on the loan side and we are seeing deposit competition pretty significantly above the Fed funds curve and the Treasury curve at this point so things are pretty aggressive out there loan origination activity in the second quarter reflected a seasonal increase of $60 million, and the pipeline remained strong. Certainly, the market environment, including pricing challenges due to tariffs and the uncertainty with the war in Iran, results in some reluctance on borrowers to invest in capital projects. So we're still kind of in a wait-and-see mode on that front. Overall, I still feel pretty good about loan growth on a full-year basis. I don't see much of a reason to step down what we talked about before maybe a little bit more of a bias toward the low single digit level from a stock repurchase perspective we acquired 732,000 shares during the second quarter and an average price of 2108 results obviously in reduction to equity and growth of the Treasury stock of 15.4 million this enhanced EPS in the quarter by about a penny year-to-date repurchases under the stock repurchase program totaled 1.9 million shares at an average price of 2031. We had exhausted the previously approved stock repurchase program, which was 5% at the time pre-Evergreen. And the board of directors have approved a new plan to repurchase approximately two and a half million shares through June 30th, 2027. I would expect that we will continue to be active and aggressive in the repurchase of shares given our extremely strong capital position that far out stretches our projected capital needs over the next 12 to 24 months margin trends still feel very good and very stable and in the near term if you pin me down and hit me with a rock I would say we probably give back a few basis points but my track record is starting to look pretty poor on that prognostication. I realize I've been saying that for the last few quarters and it hasn't happened. Obviously, rates along the curve went up quite a bit, as I said. Those trends remain stable here and high-cost deposit attrition slows. I would expect that few basis points of contraction to occur, but it may not. Lone growth for 2026, still target low to mid-single digits, as I said. Expense growth will continue to be modest. in the quarters ahead. And that's it from my end. I turn the call back over to Jim.

Okay, thanks Brad. In closing we are cautiously optimistic due to the improvements in credit metrics this quarter. I think we're particularly encouraged by a 30% reduction in our special mention loans. The rest of the bank is performing far ahead of our expectations. We remain optimistic about loan growth, as Brad mentioned, and the potential for more strategic growth opportunity as well. That concludes our prepared comments this morning, so I'll turn it over to the moderator, and we can open it up to Q&A.

Certainly. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Your first question for today is from Nathan Race with Piper Sandler.

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Morning, Nate. Obviously, some nice cleanup in terms of classified loans and non-performers in the quarter. And it sounds like, you know, you guys largely mopped up, you know, some of the, you know, lingering credits on that office commercial real estate loan and also that C&I loan in the quarter. So, you know, just curious as you look out over the next, you know, several quarters, what do you think is kind of a better kind of projection in terms of where, you know, charge-offs can shake off rolled second with hopefully kind of more benign non-performer inflows and so forth in the future?

Yeah, Nate, I think the big takeaway for us this quarter is not only the meaningful reduction in criticizing classified MPAs, but to have a 30% reduction in special mention, which is generally a leading indicator for future problems, I think gives us some optimism. You know, Power Sports also had a nice reduction in charge-offs. We're obviously going to see a little more charge-off in that vertical, but we're seeing it maybe, and Darren can speak to this later, but we're certainly seeing a normalization in the seasonal trends in charge-offs. You know, having said that, you know, that we're still working through a couple of credits, But, you know, we haven't seen anything new really pop up, you know, in the last couple of quarters that had not been previously identified. So I think we're really close to having a, you know, a very clean quarter on the credit front, which should, you know, I think which will really drive exceptional performance.

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks, Jim. Then maybe, Brad, just thoughts on how the margin could trend in the back half of the year. I know, you know, it's going to be dependent on market rates, you know, similar to what we saw in terms of the impact in the second quarter. But, you know, just any thoughts in terms of what you're seeing in terms of kind of way average rates on loan production these days? And just any thoughts on kind of where deposits and overall cost trend?

I'll start with a caveat that there's like 52 ways that I can be wrong. if something changes in the next week or something like that. The magnitude of the wrongness will be relatively subdued, though. If I had to guess, I would say that we would be at kind of a 5.18 range in the third quarter and maybe 5.15 in the fourth. That's my best guess. But I fully recognize my track record's crap. I think I said that the margin was going down before it crossed five. So, you know, at least I'm wrong on the right side of it, which is somewhat comforting. You know, best guess. A hundred ways I could be wrong.

And underpinning that, is it essentially, Brad, that, you know, loan yields can only go down from here, and then, you know, deposit costs are likely going higher as well, albeit from a very, very low base?

Yeah, so the things that are really driving it for us is the speed of attrition of what is effectively mimics wholesale on the deposit side, our ability to backfill that growth with different types of deposits. Loan yields feel relatively stable. We've been in essentially the same rate environment except for the last three months for almost 18 months, 24 months now on the asset side. Obviously, we've talked about this in the past, year one of kind of rates moving back lower is pretty great within the power sports business. Year two is a little bit not as good, and year three is worse. So the tailwind of margin expansion from power sports is we're certainly in the very late innings of that. I've been remiss in pointing out at this point that another ridiculously strong increase in the contribution margin from Power Sports this quarter, the business continues to be exceptional. But I think the biggest thing is the biggest delta on margin and being able to nail it down right now is the speed of attrition on effectively wholesale deposits and our success in backfilling. It's a liability world these days. So I think you're seeing that from other banks. I've always believed it was a liability world just broadly, but more so today than ever.

And then maybe one last one just on capital management. You know, curious, you know, if we can expect, you know, the pace of buybacks to step up relative to the second quarter. Looks like they came down a little bit versus 1Q. And then just, you know, within kind of capital management, context. Curious kind of what the appetite and kind of prospects are on the acquisition front these days.

Ladder question first. Well-priced M&A that adds something to our franchise value is something we're always interested in. I believe the market is still favorable for that. As it relates to stock buyback activity, we have been buying as much as we can. I expect that to continue. Obviously, we're still growing capital, even buying back as much shares, but I think it's reasonable to expect that we will fully execute this authorization as well over the next 12 months.

Okay, great. I appreciate all the color. Thanks, guys.

Your next question is from Brandon Rood with Stevens, Inc. Morning.

I guess my first one, to follow up on one of your earlier answers there, Brad, the backfilling the higher rate attrition on the deposit side with core deposits. What rate is kind of needed now to generate that core deposit growth? Or maybe said another way, what's the blended interest-baring deposit rate for that new growth?

You know, I'm not sure I get the gist of the question. To maintain the margin, the reality is that if we ran out $200 million of effectively wholesale funding right now, it would be margin accretive to replace it with wholesale funding. That is the nature of the deposit competition that exists marginally right now. So I get what you're asking. At what rate can we generate deposit growth? I'm not sure it really matters. It's just a question of how much wholesale funding are you willing to stomach. The reality is when you look like us, which is largely retail core deposit funded, all we're really giving up by adding wholesale funding is more asset sensitivity, which doesn't hurt. It's a trade I'm willing to make. So that's why what you're hearing from me is relatively bullish, because there's these levers that are out there, and additionally, we can pay off the remainder of sub-debt that exists out there, too. There are various levers that you can pull. the net net of which is that margin feels pretty stable but i i'm you know contemplating therapy to not say hey the margin can go up from here i don't really want to say that anymore um so it's it's uh gives and takes and what have yous i guess okay yeah got it uh thank you for that.

And then just on the expense side, the efficiency ratios in the low 50s as a percent of assets expenses are mid to high 90s. Is there anything in the near term, any investments coming down the pipeline that may change either of those metrics?

Not materially, no. But the reality is is that there's no deferred maintenance here. We have capital projects underway across the board to make us an even better bank, and we don't shy away from them. That's the challenge of growing a bank. So those things are continuing. They are in the run rate, and they are in the future prognostications.

Okay, perfect. Maybe just one last one. Thanks for the comments on the commercial real estate charge-offs. On the CNI loan, is that still on balance sheet, or is that now off balance sheet, or maybe can you just kind of walk through that a bit more?

Yeah, no, it's still on balance, Chief Brand. The company is in the process of transacting, and we're just working through and being conservative with taking additional charges as to where we believe a sale price will happen. So I expect that credit to be fully resolved within the next quarter.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Your next question for today is from Jeff Rulis with DA Davidson.

Thanks. Good morning. A couple follow-ups on maybe the margin. Brad, I just wanted to kind of confirm that any sort of recovered interest on maybe some problem loan resolution that may have added to the, or I guess any one-timers in that 523? And then, if you could, do you have the June monthly average for margin?

I don't have it in front of me, but no, I'm not aware of any one-timers that positively impacted.

And in green?

It was largely stable throughout the quarter. It started going up. It was going up when we were on. I just didn't believe it can continue.

Yeah, I mean, I think largely, as Brad pointed out, there were three levers that drove it. We had some repricing of some 2021, 2022 vintage commercial real estate loans that came up for maturity, high-yield deposit costs priced lower out, and then we had some securities also rolling off that were reinvested at higher yields.

Got it. And then just on the fee income front, your thoughts on, I guess we'd expect maybe Boley to normalize, but that wealth management number, pretty encouraging. If you could just kind of touch on kind of fee income, overall fee income levels in the second half, if you think.

Yeah, I mean, we've been a low single-digit grower in fee income. I mean, Wealth Group continues to be successful in bringing in new assets under management. They've obviously benefited from, you know, from an equity market. But we, you know, see any pickup in the mortgage bank, you know, we could get to, you know, mid-single digits.

And maybe the last one, just to confirm, the evergreen kind of merger costs as well as cost saves, that's pretty much we've seen the end of it. just wanted to kind of housekeeping. I believe so, yes.

We have one branch we just shuttered last month, so we'll have.

Thank you.

Your next question is from Ken Kohut with Raymond James.

Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Brad, I appreciate the commentary on share of purchases, and it sounds like you're going to be continuing that going forward. But I'm just wondering how sensitive you guys are to the share price and valuation, and at what point do share purchases not make sense from your perspective?

I'm not sensitive to it. The reality is that we have more capital than we would otherwise need. Certainly absent M&A opportunities, and we have more capital than any M&A opportunity that we would have an appetite for. And the reality is that buying back fully this authorization would still not result in capital levels going down. So it's just a question. It's a lever to return capital to shareholders such that we don't grow it as fast. It really is that simple. It's a tax-efficient return of capital to shareholders. Although I don't like that 1% tax one tiny bit. I feel remiss if I don't throw an editorial in there, but whatever.

Yep, understood. Thanks. And then apologies if I missed this, but going into the loan growth, it looked great in the quarter, and what stood out to me was the commercial growth. Can you just provide maybe a little bit more detail there, just given the impressive growth and also considering the competitive backdrop that you had talked about?

Yeah, as Brad mentioned, it remains exceptionally competitive. You know, last quarter, first quarter, we had, you know, we saw some pullback, which we normally do in the first quarter. Growth this quarter really came from really three or four buckets, our middle market C&I group, a commercial real estate group, finance, and then PowerSport had when we thought maybe would be relatively flat. But, you know, PowerSport, and Darren can speak to that, Yeah, but second quarter and third quarter are generally pretty good in that business, and we're optimistic that we may see some growth in the third quarter as well. But those are the drivers. The competition remains fierce. There's no question about it, but we're encouraged by our pipelines today.

Thanks for taking my questions.

Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1. Your next question for today is from Brian Martin with Breen Capital.

Hey, good morning, guys. Just on the credit front, Jim, I guess that seems like there's some nice improvement potentially coming in. You've got a couple of credits you talked about still working through, but can you just kind of give some thought on how you think credit plays out? I mean, over the next couple of quarters, what would you expect in terms of some meaningful resolution, just a handful of things coming back, or just in general, given what you see Yeah, I mean, we've printed, what, 70 basis points in charge-offs this quarter.

I mean, I'd like to say we're going to get back into that, you know, 35 to 45 basis points. You know, we're going to run a little bit higher with PowerSport, right? But we saw a nice reduction, you know, second quarter over first. We're working through a couple more credits, but we're optimistic. we're going to see improvement again next quarter, not only in charge-off levels, but in overall migration and we hope to see further reductions and classifies in MPAs.

Okay. Is there anything, I guess, in terms of how much of a reduction in MPAs we could see in the coming quarters? Are there a couple of meaningful things you're working on? Is it just kind of some granular stuff or just a bigger picture?

We're only not even halfway through the quarter, but we've already had a couple small wins early in the quarter. There's a couple larger ones where we're optimistic that we can hopefully get resolved, but we certainly aren't seeing anything new in the last few months. The fact that special mention was down 30%, it's usually...

Do you have that number, Jim, what the special mention were? You said 30% from the previous quarter, or just what's the barometer there?

They were down 12.5 million in the quarter, so it's at 27 million.

Okay, perfect. All right, and then just one or two last ones for me. Brad, you talked about just kind of the M&A, which you've talked about in the past, but in terms of size, is there something, I mean, are you guys, preference-wise, if you found an opportunity, smaller, if you kind of comment just on kind of how you're thinking about that with the approval times and whatnot? but it seems like it had been smaller, but maybe that's not the case.

I'd say the bias is towards smaller right now, but I don't really rule anything out. It's just that at the end of the day the question is, does doing a transaction make the franchise more valuable? And 99 times out of 100, that's a deposit based question. Obviously, not always, because we've done an asset generator deal. But there's no interest in betting the farm at this point. What we have here is pretty special. It's what shows up in the profitability numbers. It's not easy to find a transaction that makes you a better bank, but they're out there with some work on the front end and the back end. So I am optimistic we can get something done in relatively short order.

Gotcha. And then just last thing, you talked about that contribution margin. I guess your outlook for that contribution margin, I think it was up again.

I'll let Darren answer that one.

It's Brian, right? So contribution margin for the National Specialty Lending, as Jim and Brad both mentioned, is at a historical high for us. I expect that to continue through this year with some reduction coming next year, coming down a little bit next year. We change rates a little bit lower in the middle of this year, and so you'll start seeing as the portfolio turns over a little bit more of that impact into 27 than you would this But nothing material, but you will see it come down a little bit.

Brian, I think what's important to understand in that portfolio, APR on that's right now over 10%. And the loss rate came down from a little over 2% to 180. So you can see the contribution margin well over 8.5% in that business.

Yeah, no, it's great. I think that answers most of it. The only thing I could ask you, Brad, that I don't know that you haven't commented on, or maybe it's just not something you'd want to at this point, but just in terms of the stability and the margin in your term, if we think about going into next year, I mean, what's kind of the puts and takes on on directionally where you would expect the margin, you know, to be whether, you know, not quantifying a number, but just kind of directionally how you think about it as you go into next year?

Well, I think we've won this war like 47 times now. So I'd say if that becomes like 57 times, then maybe interest rates would go down along the curve and inflation would dampen and then you would probably give back a little bit of margin. But I talk about this stuff over a beer, but I fundamentally believe that the world is shedding the idea that rates are somehow anchored to zero interest rate policy. I believe those days are done. And as long as that is the case, and I'm correct about that, then fundamentally this is a very high margin financial institution just based on the quality of the funding. So I'm very bullish, a very elevated margin for a very long time, I guess is the way I put that.

Okay. That's helpful. So I appreciate taking the questions, guys.

Yep. Thanks, Brian.

We have reached the end of the question and answer session, and I will now turn Nicole over to Jim Ecker for closing remarks.

Okay. Thanks, everyone, for joining us this morning, and we look forward to talking to you again in the third quarter. Goodbye.

This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.