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Western Union CO Q3 FY2020 Earnings Call

Western Union CO (WU)

Earnings Call FY2020 Q3 Call date: 2020-10-29 Concluded

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Good day. And welcome to The Western Union Company Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Release Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brendan Metrano, Vice President of Investor Relations, Western Union. Please go ahead.

Brendan Metrano Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. On today’s call, we will discuss the company’s third quarter results, our financial outlook for 2020 and then we will take your questions. Slides that accompany this call and webcast can be found at westernunion.com under the Investor Relations tab and will remain available after the call. Additional operational statistics have been provided in supplemental tables with our press release. Western Union is still following a work-from-home policy. So on our remote call today is our CEO, Hikmet Ersek; our CFO, Raj Agrawal; and Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, Brad Windbigler. Today’s call is being recorded and our comments include forward-looking statements. Please refer to the cautionary language in the earnings release and in Western Union’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the 2019 Form 10-K, for additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. During the call, we will discuss some items that do not conform to Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. We have reconciled those items to the most comparable GAAP measures under the Investor Relations section. We will also discuss certain adjusted metrics. Although the expenses that have been excluded from adjusted metrics are specific to these initiatives, the types of expenses are similar to those that the company has previously incurred and can reasonably be expected to incur in the future. All statements made by Western Union officers on this call are the property of The Western Union Company and subject to copyright protection. Other than the replay noted in our press release, Western Union has not authorized and disclaims responsibility for any recording, replay or distribution of any transcription of this call. I will now turn the call over to our CEO, Hikmet Ersek.

Thank you, Brendan, and thank you all for joining our earnings call this afternoon. I am pleased to say that our business continues to rebound from the global shock caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and delivered solid third-quarter results with improving topline trends, operating margin expansion, and very strong earnings per share. The quick and dramatic rebounds we experienced beginning late in the second quarter reinforce our conviction in the solid foundation of our business and the effectiveness of our strategy. Although macroeconomic uncertainty remains elevated, the resilience of our business, employees, and customers gives us optimism that prospects for the global community and our company are headed in the right direction. Given improved visibility into market dynamics and the trajectory of our business, we have issued a financial outlook for full year 2020, which Raj will discuss in more detail shortly. Moving to the third-quarter results. As you may recall, we saw robust consumer-to-consumer trends in the latter part of the second quarter and into July. The performance carried through the third quarter with transaction growth of 6% and cross-border principal growth of over 20%. Year-to-date, our cross-border principal is up 8%, which strongly suggests we are outperforming the remittance market based on previous independent forecasts. The primary driver of the sequential improvement in our C2C business was retail money transfer, led by improving transaction trends and strong growth in principal per transaction, while the digital business stayed elevated. The quality and scale of our network continues to be an important differentiator that allows us to better attract and retain customers who choose to transact at a physical location or digitally. Our digital channels continue to perform exceptionally well, with both westernunion.com and digital partnerships. Digital money transfer transactions grew 96% in the third quarter and reached new heights for both westernunion.com and digital partnership transactions. We also generated a new quarterly high of over $230 million of digital money transfer revenue, accounting for 21% of C2C revenue and 31% of C2C transactions. Westernunion.com continues to deliver impressive performance in the third quarter, generating approximately 50% transaction growth and approximately 45% monthly average active customer growth both for the second consecutive quarter. According to the mobile market intelligence firm Sensor Tower, westernunion.com once again led peer money transfer companies for mobile app downloads by a wide margin in the third quarter. So the targeted investments we are making in customer acquisition and engagement are clearly paying off. At the same time, we continue to see that the general pricing environment has remained stable. The foundation of our digital success is an unmatched omnichannel platform. The vast majority of our digital transactions are paid out at The Western Union agent location. The omnichannel capability continues to be a competitive advantage for Western Union, as this type of physical payout transactions is challenging for digital startups to execute. At the same time, Western Union account-to-account capabilities, with payout into billions of accounts in over 120 countries, including real-time payouts in 80 countries to select bank accounts and wallets, is allowing the company to continue to capture incremental growth in the fast-growing account-to-account channels, with our account-to-account transactions up over 130% in the quarter. As we previously discussed, we are extending the capabilities we have developed with our branded retail and westernunion.com offerings to third-party partners to target new incremental markets, which have historically used correspondent banking for cross-border money transfer. We are focused on financial institutions that have customers with cross-border money movement needs that historically used more costly and less efficient services like the correspondent banking system, and now they are seeing the advantages of switching to our high-quality and efficient cross-border platform. We have seen early success as our initial partnerships are delivering meaningful results and the pipeline continues to build. This go-to-market approach and competitive advantage in digital should support strong long-term topline growth for years to come. Importantly, the digital business is value-enhancing for us. First, it is highly incremental. Over 80% of westernunion.com customers are new to The Western Union Company and our account-to-account channel is bringing in an attractive segment of customers that generally have not used our service in the past. In addition, the digital partnership business targets a large market opportunity that Western Union has historically not participated in. It represents roughly half of the $700 billion C2C remittance market. Second, the digital channels have strong profitability on both a dollar and margin basis. Overall, the economics of the westernunion.com business today are similar in nature to the retail business. For digital third-party, although the revenues per transaction are lower, margins are even higher and incremental to overall margins, and this business is still in its early stages. As this business continues to ramp up, it should help drive margin expansion for the company. Now, putting the pieces together, the digital business is an important source of incremental profit for the company. The large business-to-business market is another important long-term growth opportunity. Our Business Solutions segment, which represents approximately 7% of total company revenue, has been affected by macro headwinds related to COVID-19 over the past two quarters, due to exposure to small- to medium-sized enterprises, travel and tourism, and education. However, both revenue and margins improved from the second quarter. Long-term prospects remain favorable and we are positioning the business for a recovery by pushing forward with payment product enhancements, like our new refunds and vendor payment product within global pay for students and support for more currencies in our mass payment products. Moving to our strategy and near-term objectives, over the third quarter, we gained a better understanding of the effects of the pandemic on our market, our ability to adapt our strategy, and the opportunities available in the new normal. This experience, coupled with consideration of risk and reward, reaffirms to us that we should rigorously pursue key objectives for our growth strategy. We continue to develop our digital offerings, including significant investment in customer acquisition for westernunion.com, data analytics capabilities to enhance customer insight and dynamic pricing, and infrastructure to support third-party services. We remain focused on investing in our solid pipeline of third-party prospects. We are ramping up our platform initiatives and continue to invest in technology to move more of our operations to the cloud. This will provide a more flexible and scalable infrastructure to enhance current execution and our competitive position. It will also support growth including both current initiatives like our digital third-party business and new use cases that may arise in the future, such as additional services for consumers, businesses, and governments. We are further enhancing our market-leading network by improving the coverage, cost, and quality. Year-to-date, we have renegotiated agreements with nearly 340 existing agents and added 19 new agents with over 18,000 locations. We also continue to add additional wallet and card payout capabilities and we are on track to achieve 100 countries with real-time account payout capabilities by the year-end. Our focus on lean management, which we call WU Way, has enabled good progress in creating a more efficient organization. We are on pace with the savings targets we described during our September 2019 Investors Day. Specifically, we expect to deliver at least $50 million in annual productivity savings this year, as well as the three-year target of $150 million. So, in closing, the third quarter of 2020 was an important chapter for Western Union. Our business continued the recovery that began during the second quarter and we delivered solid financial results. Like many global peers, I am hoping the COVID-19 pandemic comes to an end soon and our society can live in a less risky and safer environment. We all need to take preventative steps to avoid further spread of the COVID-19 virus and get back to a new normal as soon as possible. At the same time, Western Union's future continues to be very exciting. We have strong conviction that we will achieve the key initiatives underlying the strategy that will enable us to drive meaningful, profitable growth for years to come. With that, I will turn the call over to Raj.

Thank you, Hikmet, and good afternoon, everyone. My comments today will focus on third-quarter results along with our newly reissued financial outlook for 2020 and some high-level thoughts as we look forward to the remainder of the year. As Hikmet discussed earlier, the position of the business improved during the third quarter supported by the foundation we started to lay last year with our digitally-focused growth strategy. We see our growth strategy taking shape with the continued rebound of our resilient retail business from the impact of COVID-19, strong topline and customer trends for westernunion.com, and significant incremental growth from digital partnerships. Digging into the details of the third quarter, revenue of $1.3 billion declined 4% compared to the prior year period. While constant currency revenue declined 1%, a substantial improvement from last quarter. Currency translation net of the impacts from hedges reduced third-quarter revenue by approximately $41 million compared to the prior year, primarily due to the depreciation of the Argentine peso. The decline in the peso negatively impacted reported revenue by 3%. While the effect of inflation on our Argentina businesses is estimated to have positively impacted constant currency revenue by approximately 1%. In the C2C segment, revenue declined 1% or was flat on a constant currency basis, with transaction growth offset primarily by the impact of mix. Transactions grew 6% for the quarter, led by 96% growth for digital money transfer, partially offset by declines for retail money transfers. It is worth noting that the sequential improvement in C2C transactions from minus 8 in the second quarter was primarily attributable to improving retail trends while our digital business sustained its high growth. Total C2C cross-border principal increased 23% on a reported basis or 24% constant currency, driven by growth in digital money transfer. Principal per transaction or PPT was up 13% or 14% constant currency, and it increased across all channels. Multiple factors contributed to higher PPT that can be characterized broadly as changes in consumer behavior and business mix. The spread between C2C transactions and revenue growth in the quarter was 7% or 6% constant currency. Excluding the mix effects of our digital white label partnerships, the spread was close to zero. Current digital white label partnerships carry lower revenue per transaction for RPT than Western Union branded transactions. The partnerships were just getting started in the prior year period and grew significantly year-over-year, which drove a greater mix of white label partnerships that reduced RPT. Digital money transfer revenues, which include westernunion.com and digital partnerships, increased 45% or 46% constant currency and accounted for 21% of total C2C revenue and 31% of total C2C transactions in the quarter. The spread between digital transaction growth and revenue growth was primarily attributable to the mix effects of digital white label partnerships that were incremental to the business this year in addition to certain strategic pricing actions for westernunion.com. As we mentioned last quarter, our objectives for westernunion.com is to price dynamically to drive customer acquisition, transactions, and revenue over the long-term, which contributes to the higher lifetime value of customers. Westernunion.com revenue grew 33% or 32% constant currency, with cross-border revenue up approximately 46%, partially offset by continued declines in domestic money transfer. Westernunion.com transactions increased 53%. As Hikmet noted earlier, we are pleased with the results of the targeted pricing we employed this quarter to drive customer acquisition for westernunion.com, while overall we continue to see the pricing environment as stable. Within our digital partnership business, digital white label partners continue to perform exceptionally well, with strong transaction growth. There still seems to be some misunderstanding about the profitability of our digital business. So I would like to take a minute to discuss the economics. Starting with westernunion.com, which is most of our digital business, the overwhelming majority of transactions are funded by debit cards and paid out at one of over 550,000 Western Union agent locations in 200 countries. These transactions have unit economics that are relatively similar to our retail channel, and over time, we think they could be even more profitable. The digital third-party business, which today largely consists of only a handful of partners, yields lower returns than Western Union branded transactions because we play a processing role. At the same time, margins are generally higher than Western Union branded digital transactions because we incur fewer costs such as customer acquisition, fraud losses, and funding. So the profitability of our combined digital business is compelling, particularly compared to native digital players. To put this in perspective, the mix of digital revenues in our C2C business for the third quarter increased 700 basis points year-over-year from 14% to 21%, and we still generated strong adjusted margins of 23.5%. Turning to the regional results, all regional trends increased sequentially from the second quarter, led by improvement in retail and bolstered by continued strong growth in digital money transfer. North America revenue trends improved to flat year-over-year on a reported basis and grew 1% on a constant currency basis on transaction growth of 1%. Both constant currency revenue and transaction growth were driven by the U.S. outbound business primarily sending to the Latin America and Caribbean region, partially offset by continued declines in U.S. domestic money transfer, which was less than 5% of total company revenue in the quarter. Revenue in the Europe and CIS region improved and increased 3% on a reported basis or 1% constant currency on transaction growth of 24%. Constant currency revenue growth was led by Germany, France, and Russia. The spread between constant currency revenue and transaction growth was primarily due to channel mix driven by the digital white label business in Russia. Revenue in the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia region also improved, increasing 2% on both a reported and constant currency basis, while transactions grew 15%. Qatar and Saudi Arabia led with solid constant currency revenue growth in the quarter, while the UAE continued to experience economic pressure resulting from COVID-19. The spread between constant currency revenue and transaction growth was attributable to strong growth in Saudi Arabia driven by the digital white label business. Revenue in the Latin America and Caribbean region improved substantially but still decreased 21% on a reported basis or 8% constant currency on transaction declines of 21%. The combination of restrictive government policy responses to COVID-19 in some countries, coupled with high rates of inspections in the region, contributed to the negative performance in the quarter. We have also not seen the same offsetting benefits from digital in Latin America due to slower adoption by governments for electronic compliance methods, which have generally been adopted in other regions. Revenue in the APAC region also improved and increased 4% on a reported basis or 5% constant currency. Constant currency revenue growth was primarily led by Australia. Transactions declined 6%, primarily driven by the Philippines domestic business, which has limited impact on revenue. Business Solutions revenue trend improved from the second quarter but decreased 11% on a reported basis or 13% constant currency and represented 7% of company revenues in the quarter. Revenue declines were the result of ongoing impacts of COVID-19 on the business as cross-border trade has declined, and small- and medium-sized enterprises have reduced visibility to future hedging and payment needs. Other revenues represented 5% of total company revenues and declined 33% in the quarter. Other revenues primarily consist of retail bill payments in both Argentina and the U.S., as well as money orders in the U.S. The revenue decline was due to the depreciation of the Argentine peso and the ongoing impact of COVID-19. Turning to margins and profitability, I will focus on consolidated margins, as segment margins are not comparable with the prior year period due to expense allocation changes implemented in the first quarter of 2020. Consolidated GAAP operating margin was 22.7% in the quarter, compared to 15.1% in the prior year period. The increase was primarily due to restructuring costs incurred in the prior year period in conjunction with current productivity savings and additional cost management measures, partially offset by revenue declines. Additional cost savings realized in the quarter mainly reflect the timing of certain expenses or lower levels of expenses related to business activity, such as delays in hiring or travel. I will talk more about margin guidance for the remainder of the year when I discuss the reissued 2020 financial outlook in a moment. We incurred $9 million in restructuring expenses in the third quarter related to our productivity program. We continue to expect total restructuring-related expenses of approximately $150 million, and since the start of this we have incurred approximately $140 million. Adjusted operating margin in the third quarter was 23.5%, compared to 22.3% in the prior year period, with expansion driven by the same factors stated previously and adjusted for restructuring and M&A costs. Foreign exchange hedges had a negative impact of $1 million in the current quarter and a benefit of $10 million in the prior year period. The GAAP effective tax rate was 12.4% in the quarter, compared to 16.8% in the prior year period, while the adjusted tax rate was 12.7%, compared to 18% in the prior year period. The decrease in the GAAP and adjusted effective tax rate was primarily due to higher prior period domestic pretax income due to the sales of Speedpay and Paymap businesses, offset by increased discrete expenses in the current period. GAAP earnings per share in the quarter was $0.55, compared to $0.32 in the prior year period. Year-over-year EPS growth benefited from higher restructuring expenses incurred in 2019, additional productivity and cost earnings in 2020, and a lower effective tax rate and share count, partially offset by revenue declines. Adjusted earnings per share in the quarter was $0.57, compared to $0.49 in the prior year period, with the increase due to the factors stated previously and adjusted for restructuring and M&A costs. Turning to our cash flow and balance sheet. Year-to-date cash flow from operating activities was $586 million. The year-over-year decline in operating cash flow was primarily due to the timing of payments for restructuring and other activities, partially offset by lower income tax payments and an increase in operating income. Capital expenditures in the quarter were approximately $22 million. At the end of the quarter, we had cash of $1.3 billion and debt of $3 billion. Our financial position is among the strongest within our payments peer group. We have an undrawn $1.5 billion revolving credit facility and no significant debt maturities until 2020. We returned $92 million in dividends to shareholders in the third quarter and had no share repurchases. The outstanding share count at quarter-end was 411 million shares, and we had $783 million remaining under our share repurchase authorization, which expires in December 2021. Turning to our financial outlook, note that we have made key assumptions that the current economic environment will persist for the remainder of the year with no significant worsening of the current pandemic. We expect GAAP revenues for the full year to be down high single digits due to the impact of COVID-19 and the 2019 divestitures of Speedpay and Paymap. On an adjusted constant currency basis, which excludes the impact of the divestitures and Argentina inflation, we expect revenues to be down mid-single digits. The spread between transaction growth and revenue growth should temporarily widen further in the fourth quarter as we continue to cycle through incremental year-over-year digital white label transactions and some targeted price increases in the fourth quarter of 2019. The gap should narrow over 2021 as these factors diminish. As I mentioned earlier, excluding the mixed impact from the significant ramp-up in the digital white label business, C2C transactions and revenue growth were similar to each other in the third quarter. GAAP operating margin is expected to be approximately 20%, while the adjusted operating margin is expected to be approximately 21%. I’d like to provide some context on the cadence of quarterly margins. Recall that in the early stages of the pandemic, we saw a number of initiatives and investments due to significant macroeconomic uncertainty. As business conditions improved during the late second and third quarters, we pushed forward with previously planned activities, but there could be a lag of weeks to months before some of the associated costs actually hit the P&L. So, the fourth quarter will incur a higher level of expenses, although we are expanding margin in line with our original 2020 targets. GAAP EPS for the year is expected to be in the range of $1.72 to $1.77, while adjusted earnings per share is expected to be in the range of $1.80 to $1.85. To recap, we are pleased with the financial results and progress of our business this quarter as we continue to rebound from the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic and advance our growth strategy. Looking forward, our business is well-positioned for continued progress with solid market fundamentals and an effective strategic agenda, which we believe will create long-term value for our customers and our shareholders. Thank you for joining our call today. And Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

Operator

The first question comes from Darrin Peller of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks, guys. When we look at the actual additions that you have in your business and the transaction growth versus principal, it looks like principal per transaction was up meaningfully double digits. I think you mentioned something about types of customers driving this. I guess I’d be curious to hear how you are seeing this trend, is the current principal per transaction sustainable and maybe if these new customers are really sticky for you guys? And then just bigger picture when we look at the digital mix here, I know it’s a little early to ask this. But once we anniversary, hopefully some of these trends in the, let’s call it, middle of next year, do you think that this 20% plus type mix from digital is sustainable at that rate based on behavioral trends of what you are seeing in your base?

Hey, Darrin. This is Raj. Yeah. On the first question on PPT trends, we are quite pleased to see that. We are still learning, I would say, in this environment, because people have changed their behavior a bit. Certainly, the customers that are remaining in our business are the customers that are transacting at a higher level, but they also have a higher ability to pay or to send money, so they are sending higher principal amounts. Even the new customers that are coming into our business are exhibiting the same type of characteristics. I would say that it remains to be seen how long this is going to stay in place. But most of the customers that are coming in say they are going to continue to use that and there’s certainly a strong need for the receive markets to keep receiving money. So it's going to continue in the short-term, but we are going to have to see how this plays out longer term. Hikmet, do you want to add anything?

Yeah. I think, Darrin, the customers we acquire especially in the digital one with westernunion.com, they are new to us. We know that 80% of the customers didn’t use us and they are more sticky. They stay and they use a higher principal; they use their cards, accounts, or debit cards, are stickier... and they stay and we have a direct connection with our westernunion.com loyal customers. So we love how that – which direction that goes also with the higher principal.

And on your question around digital mix... We had a dramatic turnaround in the retail business in the third quarter. It’s still declining on the retail side, but it’s much better than it was in the second quarter and we still maintained a roughly 20% mix on digital. So we think that digital will continue to be a very strong contributor. It’s running now at $230 million of revenue this quarter. So we still see good growth opportunities there and we want to do everything we can to bring the retail business back and also maintain that kind of digital mix.

Operator

The next question comes from Jason Kupferberg of Bank of America.

Hi, Jason.

Speaker 5

To start with kind of a trajectory question on the C2C business. I was wondering just kind of how the quarter progressed month-to-month and what you have been seeing in October so far relative to the 6% number that you saw for the full quarter in Q3?

Well, generally, I would say that the business is improving day-by-day and if you like, how that – which direction the business is going. I mean big contributions are -- retail is coming back. The contribution is the digital growth. It’s really the high revenue growth. And additional incremental is also our third parties, right? Their digital transactions relating to our success currently and it looks like we are gaining market share just compared with independent outside, just like the World Bank. And look at the 8% on principal gain has been pretty good. So I would say that it’s all over.

Yeah. On the third-quarter trends you asked within the quarter, I would say, there were some holidays and other impacts. So it’s not really that – when you look at the monthly data, it’s not that relevant. It’s more important if you look at the entire quarter and about 6% transaction growth is really a good level for where the business is. And October, I would say, is just in line with our expectations. So nothing new there at this stage.

Speaker 5

Okay. And just in terms of capital deployment, I mean, obviously, you guys suspended the buyback back when COVID hit and now the business is clearly on firmer footing. You reinstated guidance, which is great to see. So just curious how you guys are thinking about what needs to happen before you are comfortable buying back stock again?

Well, as you know, we still have an authorization to buy back stock, right? The environment is definitely still – we are still in a pandemic situation. We are still looking around. But we feel day-by-day more confident in our business and our dividend policy has been very good, and we will definitely consider other ways of giving back to the shareholders as we get more confidence about our business.

Operator

Next question comes from Tien-Tsin Huang of JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Hi, Tien-Tsin.

Speaker 6

Yeah. Thank you. Hey, guys. Good to talk to you all. So the retail improved nicely. That’s great. I am curious, just thinking about the guidance that’s reinstated. As Jason mentioned, the mid-single-digit decline, I think you were at 3.5% down year-to-date, Raj, if I am correct. If so, are you expecting or bracing for potentially thinking a little bit weaker in the fourth quarter, is that just conservatism on your part?

No. No. The tables don’t exclude the benefit of Argentina, so that's embedded in the year-to-date numbers and the outlook we have given, it excludes the impact of Argentina inflation. So Argentina inflation was about 150 basis points year-to-date. So that -- you have to take that into account as well then, Tien-Tsin. So it’s really for the fourth quarter, I’d say that… For the fourth quarter, we have fully assumed a material change in trend. So we are expecting more of the same. Obviously, we will see whatever the pandemic does, but generally, we would expect more of the same sort of trend.

Speaker 6

Thank you for correcting me there. On the targeted pricing that you mentioned on the digital side, is that reactionary or maybe opportunistic to acquire customers when digital demand is so high right now? Just trying to think about what the motivation there was?

It’s not, as you know, we are seeing so many corridors with our westernunion.com and sending money to 200 countries, more than 75 countries sending money to 200 countries. And we are adapting our prices to new countries and we also talk about the dynamic pricing; we are changing the pricing. It’s a typical thing. It’s nothing special as we are doing corridor pricing, as we are doing holiday pricing and that’s what we are really focused on. Nothing extraordinary here that’s reacted to the customer needs.

Speaker 6

That’s great. Okay. Thank you for that.

Thanks. And Tien-Tsin also, as you know, the market has been quite stable. The pricing market, so that’s – it’s also we really can’t go and have targeted actions for loyal customers, so that’s important, and yet, we can see that we are very successful there.

Speaker 6

Yeah. And as you said, the LTV is high, once you get the digital customer, so.

Absolutely.

Yeah. And we had 47% growth in the active average monthly customers at dotcom, so that’s much more sticky business than other parts of our business.

Speaker 6

Yeah. Thank you for sharing that stat.

Thanks, Tien-Tsin.

Operator

Next question comes from Brian Keane of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Hi, Brian.

Hi, Brian.

Speaker 7

How you guys doing? Doing all right?

Yeah. Good. You?

Yeah.

Well, we feel good with the quarter.

Speaker 7

Yeah. Yeah. It’s good to see the progress at least, that’s definitely positive. I wanted to ask on the last quarter when we showed July transaction trends for wu.com, digital transfer, and C2C, and there were quite a bit higher than where they ended up coming out with the quarter. That decel we saw, is that all explained away by the holiday or was there some decel in the fundamental business in those three metrics?

Yeah. There is a lot of calendar stuff going on between July, August, and September, and that’s why the most representative numbers are for the full quarter regardless of which channel you are talking about. So, on the digital side, we started to see some grow from the digital white label business that began last year. So that’s some of what you are seeing there. But otherwise, it’s really the full quarter numbers that are more relevant to really pay attention to there, Brian.

Speaker 7

Got it. And then when I back into the fourth-quarter EPS number on adjusted basis. I mean you came quite a bit ahead on the quarter in adjusted earnings. But when I back into the fourth quarter, it looks like it’s a little bit below Street and it looks like the margins might be down a little bit on a year-over-year basis. But just to make sure I understand that point, Raj. It sounds like there are some investments that will be made that were kind of pushed off and cause the margins potentially to drop in that fourth quarter, which might be what we didn’t model correctly on the street?

Yeah. Yeah. We -- given the performance that we have had thus far, we did hold back on some planned spending in the second quarter and third quarter. Brian, that is now we’ve started to re-launch some of the spending in the latter part of the third quarter, which will hit mostly in Q4. And what we are really pleased with is that we are now at 21% for the full year for outlook for margins, which is really our -- it’s our original margin objective for the year even in a very down revenue environment. So we are really pleased with that. I think it just gives you a sense of the flexibility we have in our operating model with our 55% to 60% of our costs being variable in nature. So we are very pleased with that and I don’t see the fourth quarter really being as representative of the current baseline of the business; it’s more about the full year numbers for us. Hikmet, do you want to add something?

Yeah. No. I just want to add something that all these investments which we are making during Q4, Brian, are really business initiatives for all sorts of future. As we outlined in the Q in our September 2019 part is definitely the marketing, but we are investing heavily in the technology and continue to put everything, as I mentioned earlier, to cloud and we are really improving here, and which will make us even more competitive in the future, I think and more effective, I believe, and we are still committed to our $150 million three-year savings, so that brings this year we are confident with our 21% margin and that’s what we gave in the beginning of the year before COVID-19.

Operator

The next question comes from Rayna Kumar of Evercore. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Good evening and thanks for taking my questions.

Hi.

Speaker 8

So, if we take three-quarter to four-quarter view when we might have a vaccine and quarters reopen without a 14-day quarantine, will it increase in migration improve your cross-border money transfer growth rates further assuming we have moderate job creation and high GDP per capita countries to drive it?

Well, we all wait for the vaccine, right? That’s something that makes us all probably better and we turn to a new normal. One thing is clear from CEO point of view, I can -- I want to say that, there will be a new normal, things will be different. But we are -- as you could see that we are very confident for the future. I think as we were prepared during COVID-19 with our digital, with our global network and with our platform, I think we are also getting ready for the new opportunities. Of course, the migration helps our business; of course, exports/imports, more SMEs using our export/imports help our business, students paying when the students go to the universities again and across borders. That helps our business. But at the same time, it shows also -- even during COVID-19 how strong our branches are; how trustworthy we are; how much we are -- customers like us, they are coming and using us, and even it shows how we are gaining market share. So I hope that answers your question a little bit on that.

Speaker 8

Very helpful. And then, for the last several quarters, you have been highlighting really strength in your white label partnerships, specifically in Russia and with Saudi Telecom. Maybe if you can speak a little bit about where there are other opportunities to have those white label partnerships?

Sure. I mean, we are very -- our platform is even adapting to the white label partners. As you could imagine that signing a bank, a larger bank, or signing a financial institution or telecom company that -- after signing, that integration takes a little bit of time. And we do have pipelines and we do have some signed agreements, some smaller, some bigger, and that will contribute also in the future to our white label growth. We are excited, and the good thing is also we see that and shows us also the incremental, because these financial institutions were using correspondent banking in the past, which is quite difficult to send money from cross border and expensive. So use -- and we do have programs, compliance programs, multi-vendor programs, and data oversight, which are really probably one of the best in the industry. So many financial institutions are turning to us saying that, 'Okay, for instance, can you drop for us to exit currencies in these countries? Can you do that?' because we are in 200 countries and we have a great platform. So this is something that I am excited about.

Operator

The next question comes from James Faucette of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Great. Thanks. Just wanted to follow up on the white label comments that you just made, when we think, obviously there’s lots of opportunity, etc. But how do we think about how expansive those can be and what your limits are, and maybe any particular geography or if there’s exclusivity, just trying to think about how broadly you could take those partnerships?

So, on white label, as I said, Jim, it’s a great question. White label is though. This is a different environment. The people -- the financial institutions are using correspondent banking already. For customers to send money especially to exotic currencies, let’s say, from dollar environment to different currencies or from your environment to different currencies worldwide, it’s a struggle and that’s in -- that sending in minutes, we have the real-time payments in accounts. We have real-time cash payout, and these are big advantages for us if you drop money in minutes and location or send money real-time to an account in the different currencies. This is probably the biggest advantage we offer to the financial institutions. So it’s not about exclusivity -- they are not excluded; they are already using different methods. It’s really replacing, let me say, the struggle they have or costly systems they have replacing with our more efficient system and serving their customers in a better way.

Speaker 9

Got it. And then as Raj highlighted the strength of the balance sheet and overall capital position. I am wondering how do you think about, and you already pay a nice dividend. How do you think about returns incremental to the dividend, whether it would be buybacks versus M&A and are you seeing opportunities perhaps to put that capital to work in buying new technologies or other businesses, etc.?

Generally, I would say that, as we feel much more comfortable about business, we are not pre-COVID yet, but the direction is good. And our programs were pre-COVID, designed pre-COVID and announced pre-COVID. So that’s why we have on -- still on buyback $780 left million, $780 million. Yeah. I will let Raj, and we get more confident about the business. On the M&A side, I mean, given our financial strength, we will always look at the market. It has to have the right return, and it has to be aligned with our strategy, and that’s where we are definitely looking if there are opportunities for us, good growth opportunities, or even synergy opportunities, where we can be more active. We are definitely active in the market also. But I think from my point of view, I feel much more confident about the business and I think that the shareholder return has been always on top of my agenda.

Yeah. And our capital priorities have not really changed, James. It continues to be invest in the business to drive the organic growth that we have, and it’s largely digital and technology improvements. We pay a very healthy dividend, as you mentioned. That’s a key priority. Third would be M&A opportunities that fit nicely within our cross-border payment strategy. And then the fourth one and important one, would be stock buyback to the extent we have excess cash flow. So that’s really the priority that we think about whenever we are making investment decisions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Ramsey El-Assal of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hi guys. Thanks so much for taking my question. I wanted to ask you about the Kroger relationship and there was a change there in terms of exclusivity. Could you help us sort of dimensionalize how you are thinking about that? Is it -- you have a very diversified business. So will it be perceptible if you lose a little share in that particular client or not?

Well, we just announced our Kroger relationship and we are very happy after 35 years we again extended our relationship. I think with Kroger, it’s a great partner. We have a very good partnership and it’s one of our partners globally. I think none of our partners are bigger than 5% of our revenue globally, right? And we have thousands of partners globally and it’s one of the partners, which we would like to certify our relationship very much to look on the exclusivity or non-exclusivity, worldwide we are acting like one of our most successful markets is the Middle East Gulf states, and they have been always a non-exclusive market and we have been very much successful there and we are expanding our market. By the way, the exclusive agent is westernunion.com, right? I mean we -- our own agent, which has been doing very well and along this quarter growing very -- again from a very huge base, again growing very strong and that shows also how we can operate in an exclusive or non-exclusive market, customer -- how the customers are choosing us and how we are gaining market share. So I think we love Kroger and we are going to be together. Again, we are looking forward to another multi-year agreement with Kroger.

Yeah. I would say, Ramsey, also most of our agents are well below the 5% threshold. There is none bigger than that. And so it really is a very diversified business mix that we have and so ultimately we are also looking at overall economics to Western Union and what it means as we look at opportunities around the world.

Operator

The next question comes from Ashwin Shirvaikar of Citi. Please go ahead.

Hello, Ashwin.

Speaker 11

Hi, Hikmet. How are you? Hi, Raj?

Good. How are you?

Speaker 11

Cool. That’s good to hear. I am trying to figure out the impact of some of these new shutdowns in France and Germany. Remind me whether the impact was immediate back in market, but a lot of this a situation where a three-week, four-week shutdown would really affect the numbers much, I don’t want to minimize the gravity of the situation, but just from our financial standpoint, would that affect you?

Yeah. I think it’s a good question. First of all, as you saw, the second quarter shutdown in the March area -- February or March area, it’s a different shutdown than this shutdown generally what we see in the market. It’s more focused. I think unfortunately we learned or the government learned their lessons on how to do the new restrictions around to control the COVID-19 pandemic. It’s -- so it is different. As you know also that our business after the restrictions get a little bit better immediately bounced back also in end of Q2, beginning of Q3 significantly. So I don’t expect that this shutdown in France and Germany is similar to one that happened in February and March. So I am more confident that it will have less financial impact on us. That’s why we are also confident in our year-end guidance. We learned also and that’s why we are reissuing our year-end guidance.

Operator

The next question comes from Timothy Chiodo of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Thanks for taking the question.

Hi, Tim.

Speaker 12

I wanted to touch on the small, but fast growing, I believe in the slides 3x growth in terms of the account payout business, so account on both sides. The payout network has gotten quite large now. You mentioned billions of accounts, 120 countries, which is the vast majority of GDP, I would assume. I wanted to talk about a little bit of the mechanics of how this network has been built out to the extent you are leveraging partners like Visa Direct and Earthport to get access to accounts. What portion of this is perhaps proprietary integrations that you have built using your global treasury network into perhaps local ACH connections, etc. Really the mechanics of how you were able to build out such a broad account network?

Yeah. I think it’s -- if you have a big advantage. Obviously, we are present in 200 countries already, right? The other fintech companies and other companies are struggling to establish that in a few countries. Our presence, our licenses, our compliance programs, our settlement programs are already settling in so many currencies. So what we do here is that we really over the years that we -- about two years or three years ago, we started with our intention of signing more accounts globally because we believe in real-time with that we are achieving customer segments with higher principles, different customer segments, which did not use us in the past. And we have -- what I like is that most of the team did a great job the regional teams and is it in India, is it in Turkey, or is it in Bangladesh they did a great job signing the accounts directly, with the banks directly without having a switch. With that, we do have a more profitable business that is direct to account-to-account; we collect from an account, drop in an account without using a switch. That makes us actually switch in the middle. We can do the treasury ourselves; we can do the settlement ourselves. So that’s a big advantage. We signed about millions of accounts, and most of them are direct account. So what you do is that you signed a bank in China, and you have direct access. You have signed a bank in Argentina, you have a direct access, same in Brazil. And so with that account-to-account, it’s a highly profitable business. It’s still small; it’s still growing; it’s still -- and the banks on the send side have to promote that they can send money via their account directly to an account in Vietnam, and that’s what we are doing.

Operator

The next question comes from Jamie Friedman of Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Hi. Congratulations on the excellent results here.

Hi, Jim.

Speaker 13

I just wanted to ask, the dynamic pricing was a big theme at Analyst Day. It continues to evolve. Maybe -- what percentage of your constituent’s transactions is dynamic pricing applicable? Is it only really in the digital environment? Where do you see that evolving to? Thank you.

That’s a great question. We did talk about that. We do see also is a big advantage dynamic pricing obviously, especially we can have dynamic pricing from where we are an agent with westernunion.com, but we also have retail dynamic pricing. So dynamic pricing is always a definition thing, how dynamic are you? Are you dynamic meaningfully, are you dynamic in quarterly or are you dynamic in country-wise or corridor-wise, bank-wise? And we do that; we are almost like an airliner in many -- some corridors, I would not say we are everywhere yet, we are really learning and adapting to the customer needs, we build this customer data, our data is getting even more intelligent day-by-day to understand and we are getting more influence with FX rate, the customer needs, is it if the customer loyalty, is it the corridor, is it processing fees, is it day by -- holidays. All these things we are putting in our system, and we are coming adapting the prices constantly to the customer needs, and that’s continued to grow. It’s only the beginning. It’s a journey, and I believe being in 200 countries with that’s huge.

Operator

The next question comes from Ken Suchoski of Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 14

Hi. Good afternoon, Hik and Raj.

Hi, Ken.

Speaker 14

Thanks for taking my questions. Hey. I just wanted to follow-up on Ramsey’s question on Kroger, because we got this one a few times over the last couple of weeks, but that agreement shifted from an exclusive deal to a non-exclusive deal. I know most agents are below the 5% threshold. But I was curious what percentage of your total agent locations and transactions are under exclusive agreements today. And then I guess a follow-up on that is just how do you think about maintaining that share with Kroger, once Kroger brings in that second offering? Thanks a lot.

So, let me start with the second one, maintaining, that’s easy because we are winning in the market anyway. We are operating in many non-exclusive areas anyway. It’s a customer choice; that’s actually, that’s also Kroger’s intention being a customer choice, who has a better service. If you send money to real-time to an account in Bangladesh or in Vietnam, probably you will go from Kroger and send money with Western Union and continue to – if we are loyal customers to Western Union you are going to continue to use. So I am not worried about that. We are winning in the non-exclusive environment constantly, and obviously it shows also the stats currently shows that we are winning. Maybe Kroger on the top line because it’s the U.S., but once you come with me to Saudi Arabia or to UAE or to other countries, we will see you in how which environment we are operating, which is non-exclusive and customers are choosing us, the customer trusts us, and continue to trust us. So Raj do you want add?

Yeah. Just on the first part, Ken, as you said, most of our business and agents are exclusive in nature, except with our Gulf states and Russia, which has been not exclusive for a long time. We were actually a later entrant into the Gulf States. But that’s a key part of our business in the Middle East, Africa, South Asia, what that is in terms of percent of total C2C. So I would say still the vast majority of our revenues and transactions in Asia are exclusive. In Africa, for example, just as another example you actually cannot have exclusive agreements, but it doesn’t mean you can’t work with agents exclusively, right? It just depends on how you incent agents in different parts of the world. So it’s a mixture of different kinds of agreements. But ultimately, as I mentioned earlier, it really ends up being a question of economics. What are the best economics for Western Union? What kind of opportunities that we have, and that’s how we make our decisions on whether it’s something exclusive or not. It’s not about just the exclusivity really; it’s about economics ultimately.