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American Tower Corp (AMT) September 10, 2026 Conference Transcript

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Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

Before we begin, disclosures are available at the registration desk. And for those of you that I have not yet met, I'm Mike Rollins, and I cover communication services and infrastructure for Citi. And we're pleased to welcome Rod Smith, Chief Financial Officer of American Tower. Rod, thank you so much for being with us today.

Rod Smith CFO

Hey, welcome. Nice being with you, Michael. And thanks, everyone, for attending.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

Great to see you. And maybe just to get us started, what are the initiatives that are most critical for American Tower to enhance financial performance and shareholder value? And not just for the remaining few months of this year, but as you're just looking out over the next couple of years.

Rod Smith CFO

Yeah, it's a great place to start. Certainly, American Tower is a leasing business, a run rate business. So in the near term, we're in really good shape to hit our outlook for 2026, certainly. We always constantly think longer term than that. Being a leasing contracting business, contracts are very important. So we take our time with contracts. We make sure we get those right. And they're not necessarily a here and now type of decision. It's about what's happening with the networks in one year, two years, three years down the road, even longer term. We have a great set of tower assets in the U.S. and Europe, complemented by some emerging market assets, high quality assets in the right locations that are critical to the future networks, wireless networks, really broadband networks around the world. So protecting that value in the contracting is certainly very important. We do see a few catalysts when you look out over the next few years. You heard Steve talk about those on the call recently. The 5G networks in the U.S. have been deployed. We enjoyed the amendment cycle through that, and now most of the carriers are 90%, 95% coverage with the 5G networks. As applications become available and bandwidth goes up, they will come in and densify those networks. They will be adding capacity to their existing cell sites. Those will be amendment cycles for us, you know, by and large. They also will likely turn to densifying the network, which is adding co-locations into their network. So new antenna arrays on towers that they're not currently on, which should be a revenue enhancement, a revenue cycle for us as well. And we do see evidence that build-to-suits in the U.S. are going to be going up. They're going to need to build new towers in the U.S. so that they can use the higher band spectrum across the U.S., filling in places where the high band spectrum today doesn't reach. That could be an amendment cycle or a revenue cycle for us over time. So, you know, being well positioned to make sure we can execute and be in a good position to monetize some of those activities is certainly critical. You know, another catalyst, we see new spectrum coming down the pike over the next few years on a pretty well set schedule, almost 800 megahertz of spectrum. As that spectrum gets acquired by the carriers and deployed, those are amendment cycles for us, certainly. 6G is, I mean, I want to say it's right around the corner. It'll be coming later in this decade. But the one thing that never sleeps, never slows down, never stops is technology development. So it will be coming on different spectrum with different types of equipment, and we're in a really good position with the assets we have around the world to monetize that. And the fourth catalyst that I would highlight here is AI. Not only is it going to change the way we all kind of live and work and communicate and play and entertain ourselves and each other, it fundamentally will change the way the wireless networks work. work. It'll require the asymmetry that's built into the networks today, which favors downlink. In an AI world, the machines will be sending data through the uplink, you know, more so than any other technology in the past. That'll be a fundamental shift in the networks that'll have to be built into the networks, which again will be, should be amendment cycles for us over time. So we think there's a lot of demand yet to come for our business. We are really well positioned to execute on that, not only in the U.S., but in Europe and other parts of the world. And we have the data center business, which is a highly interconnected, cloud-on-ramp-centric, network-dense set of assets that also benefits from these new technologies. and the fact that, you know, humans will be consuming more and more bandwidth over time. You know, that is another constant on the planet, which is people just consume more and more bandwidth. And with our core site assets, the really well positioned high quality tower assets, we are in great position to execute on that. And with all that said, I would say, you know, we do see 2026 as a trough year in terms of organic tenant buildings growth on the tower side, as well as global. Not individually, but in total. You add it all up, we see that inflecting up in future years. One of the reasons is primarily the absence of the dish churn kind of going forward. Not only the absence of the dish churn, but consolidation has happened a lot around the world, and we think churn on average over time, like the consolidation of our global portfolio, is coming down. That means organic tenant billings growth is going up. That's a really important fact for us going forward. So not only do we have these four major catalysts that complement our high-quality tower assets, we know we're going to have less churn across the globe. Again, not in every single region, but when you put it all together, when you have the absence of the reoccurrence of dish churn and the healing that is happening in Latin America, we're seeing churn elevated this year and last year. That's going to improve, in our view, as we head into next year. And then the contracts we have in Europe really are churn light on a contracted basis. So there's stability there when you think about the churn. And in Africa, the primary revenue we have, 90% of it comes from the two big carriers across Africa. They're building a lot. They need to cover more ground, not less. Churn is unlikely to materially change from where it is. Could we have some of the smaller customers here and there go away? But when you add it all up, the reduction of churn in the U.S., the stability when it comes to churn in Europe and the reduction of churn in Latin America, that is a really good backdrop. you know and then we have the core site business that's growing double digits we're investing more capital into it and you put all that together and we are really well positioned globally to have 2026 be a trough year and accelerate into 2027 and i would say when you think about the changes in the world in these networks that's a pretty good start to the next several years so we feel pretty good about the future and that should trickle down to a ffo per share growth that can also accelerate? Yeah, it absolutely should trickle down and in some cases, you know, even be enhanced. So when you think of the revenue growth expanding, because of the lack of churn and the stability in the new business, we are, you know, much of that will automatically through high conversion rates expand margins. And we're also actively looking at operating expenses and controlling those, reducing those. I think most people will know we have a new position in our company of chief operating officer globally, really looking after the way we care for our sites, the way we deploy our sites, the way we run our business, even the way we contract and process leasing around the globe to make it more efficient and to add basis to our margins, to unify supply chain and to be smarter about the way we procure things globally to get the best deal. So there is room there to reduce expenses at the same time we're adding high conversion rate revenue. So we're looking at two to three hundred basis points of margin expansion in the tower business over the over the next couple of years.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

So when you look at the big markets that you operate within globally, you know, you mentioned how consolidation is kind of played out quite a bit.

Rod Smith CFO

Yeah.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

Are there any risks left that there could be more consolidation of your carrier customers in certain markets that, you know, maybe we're just not anticipating today, whether it's in Europe? I mean, U.S. is, I think, as you described, has played out. But markets that, you know, some of us may be less familiar with, you know, Africa or different markets that you operate within in Latin America. As you survey your markets, is there anything significant that we should be mindful of as we look at over the next few years?

Rod Smith CFO

Specific to consolidation, I would say no. And that is the U.S. is pretty stable. Three primary carriers are unlikely to really change from that perspective. In Europe, there will be carrier consolidation without a doubt. We're somewhat exempt from that, immune to that, because our revenue is primarily contracted with Telefonica. We have very little, you know, exposure to FSR in Europe and in others. So we think that when you look at the tower companies in Europe, we are more protected from a consolidation perspective than most others, certainly. When you look at Latin America has gone through a lot of consolidation in the big areas in Mexico and Brazil, that's happened. Could there be some small stuff happening in our other markets? There certainly could be. It's not. it wouldn't rise to the level of, you know, being material to the overall footprint of our company. Brazil's gotten itself down to three carriers. You know, we think that there is healing there that has happened and will benefit from in the future. In Mexico, it's in a similar space. You know, the one risk that I would highlight there is there is the arbitration with AT&T Mexico and us ongoing. I think people are familiar with that. That arbitration is in process. We may have decisions there at the end of this year, maybe even into next year. And that really was a dispute around the way the parties calculated rent increases. So we'll just see what happens there. But when you're in an arbitration, getting through the end of that, seeing what the result of that is, having that behind us will be a good thing. In the meantime, we don't know what the arbitrator will decide, and when it's decided, we'll implement it. I will tell you, they're paying us directly most of the revenue. There is a hold back that they're putting in escrow. It's like 20%. We're reserving about $8 million a quarter, $40 million this year, $30 million last year. So we've got $70 million already reserved. To the extent that that reserve is needed post-arbitration, that'll be a benefit to us. And then we'll see where the arbitration comes out, if there are any changes to the way you calculate rent increases through the contracts. We feel good about it. We don't think we should lose that by any stretch of the means. But just to size up kind of the relative potential impacts there of what we're talking about.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

So as the buy side looks to 27 and just thinking about setting expectations for 27, you just draw until you have resolution. Is that 40 million just drawing it straight across into 27 in future years as good of any assumption until you have a finality?

Rod Smith CFO

Yeah, I think so. Until there's resolution, we'll give guidance for 27 out in February.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

By then, you know, we hope to know and build everything into guidance outside of us. providing guidance outside of completion and resolution of the arbitration i think what we're doing today is what we would expect to continue to do and if there's any change in that we would update people and and you would all know what we're thinking is and just one last thing on this because this has been something i've been wrestling with and it's just i know it's not a huge amount of total revenue for you that's being reserved but um is there like a because it's just a formula issue is there a much wider set of like outcomes or are outcomes more narrow because it's just definition versus you know the actual integrity of the lease um you may be asking the wrong person

Rod Smith CFO

because i'm not one of the um people presiding over the arbitration they get to decide okay we have the obligation to show up and make our case if you ask me i think the outcomes are very narrow And in our favor, the contracts are clear. When you're in an arbitration process in Mexico, they'll decide we won't. So we'll have to just wait and see what they decide. But I think they should be a narrow set of outcomes.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

Super helpful. So maybe backing up now to leasing. So you talked about the opportunity for the organic tenant billings growth rate to improve. And I think the question that we get is the conviction that leasing continues at a solid pace going forward as investors are contemplating the maturation of networks, the software upgradability of networks. You shared some of the reasons why you believe leasing continues at a solid pace. Can you help unpack that a little more at a high level? And then we'll drill, of course, down into the U.S. and maybe some of the other markets.

Rod Smith CFO

Yeah, when you think about our organic tenant billings growth outside of the churn number, it's really made up of two components. It's the annual escalator in the U.S. that is fixed at 3%. Outside the U.S. we're inflation protected by and large across the portfolio with very few exceptions. And then it's the new business activity. That new business activity is underpinned really by the carrier investments. They're making those investments because of the growth in mobile data consumption and their desire to keep their subscribers and even add to them. So there's that network quality and competition that is happening. The networks, the carriers invest $30 to $35 billion a year into the network. they don't disclose but a fair amount of that goes to the the wireless networks and a fair amount of that ends up at the tower sites and a lot of it is up in the towers so that that's a function of keeping up with the growth and mobile data consumption i think we probably all agree that growth and mobile data consumption is going to continue that's what we believe the carriers will continue to invest in it they're going to be putting more things on the towers in the form of additional antennas, additional radios, more cables. Sometimes that'll be in support of new spectrum. Sometimes it'll be reusing existing spectrum more frequently and they will have to densify the network. So that all underpins two and a half percent contribution from new business into our organic tenant billings growth is what we're seeing this year. It's what we saw last year if you exclude DISH completely. So their contribution is excluded. The other guys were 2.5%. We expect that to continue. The investments and the growth in mobile data require the investments, and that really underpins that 2.5%. That's 2.5% plus the 3% escalator in the US puts you at 5.5%. Absent DISH, we're running about 1% churn. Our target is 1% to 2%. So 5.5% less 1% churn, you drop in the 4.5% organic tenant billings growth. That is a number that we think mobile data consumption growth in the U.S. requires that is somewhat consistent. And then some of those catalysts we talked about a few minutes ago could be incremental over time.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

So those are upside spectrum.

Rod Smith CFO

It's new spectrum. It's wholesale densification of the network, certainly. AI workloads, you know, finding their way into the mobile devices, which I believe will Sometimes we won't even know it's happening. It'll be happening behind the scenes where you may have, you know, connected glasses uplinking to the networks constantly, you know, with massive amounts of data. You know, that is potentially over and above kind of this 2.5%. And then if we drive a mid-single-digit organic tenant billing growth in the U.S., we know CoreSight's going to be growing much faster, double digits. Not only that, it will be probably expanding the percentage of contribution it makes to our attributable AFFO. So it'll be getting bigger. Europe grows faster than the U.S., just given our portfolio there and the cycle we're in. And we, you know, Europe, Africa is growing high single digit, double digits. It won't always do that. Sometimes there'll be a problem. But in general, it'll grow faster than the U.S. And LATAM is recovering. And we're working on operating expenses. And our revenue is at a high conversion rate. We should be able to grow AFFO per share at that mid to upper mid single digit, you know, rate over time on average. And then the wild cards there, what's happening with FX and what's happening with interest rate headwind. So if you exclude those two things, should our AFFO growth be up in the upper single digits? Absolutely. If we include those things and we're working through a cycle where, you know, we're still growing into the higher interest rate environment, that's 100 basis points of headwind typically. FX is typically some devaluation, maybe another 100 basis. But so then do you end up in the mid single digits, you know, higher than four and a half percent, maybe on an AFFO per share basis. So that's what we say. AFFO per share mid to high single digits is achievable to us before FX and interest rates. There will be a time when interest rates won't be a problem like it will be. That'll make us more likely to be in the upper single digits consistently. There will be times like this year where FX is a tailwind, not a headwind. That will accelerate us into the upper single digits. And when FX and interest rates are a headwind, we probably dip back into the mid-single digits. That's the way to think about it.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

Is there a scenario that you could foresee where you could get back to double digit? We consistently say mid to upper mid-single digits, and I would leave it there. so of that two and a half of activity in the u.s in the past you've talked about um early on you know when you um a few years ago set out this multi-year uh outlook there was more of it that was committed through comprehensive agreements and over time that comes down so implicitly your customers are electing to spend more with you on an annual basis if that percentage is coming down. Where does that sit today? And does that also foreshadow new comprehensive opportunities with your carrier customers?

Rod Smith CFO

Yeah, I would say at the outset that we are agnostic about the types of contracts that we actually enter into. And just to level set, we have master agreements that govern terms and conditions across our portfolio with most of our big customers. Then we execute individual site licenses on a site-by-site basis. Sometimes that's priced off a price sheet that has the ability to change rapidly. And then the alternative is we have the holistic agreements, we refer to them, where that eliminates the need to negotiate a site license one at a time. They have access to our portfolio in the U.S. to use the sites the way they intend to. We grant them certain use rights that are specific, and they pay us certain fees, and we can average that out over time. We've had more of those in the past. Some people have come out of those. They may go back in, and they may not. We don't mind either way. The real benefit to the holistic deal is it accelerates the speed of deployment for the carriers. It makes the process more administratively efficient. When they're not in a holistic deal, they have to go site by site. It takes a little bit longer. The economics shouldn't be materially different. They can change a little bit quarter to quarter and even year to year because we can smooth things out. But we grant them use rights. Those use rights are specific. They're priced up against the price sheet. And that's what they pay us. And we average it over time. So either way, it should have the same economic outcome. The holistic agreement gives us more stability in terms of that period. They're contracted. We know what it'll be. and it is what it is on a holistic on a a la carte that could go up and down a little bit depending on their actual deployment cycle quarter to quarter even year to year which can change from time to time over the long term that there probably is no impact from a timing perspective because growth in mobile data consumption does not ebb and flow the way the carrier's bill plan might so as long as that's continuing to grow over time they've got to make the investments They could do it this quarter or they could pause and they could do more next quarter or they pause this year and they do more next year. So over time, it all works itself out. So we're agnostic in which deal we get. And and what I would point you back to those catalysts, those catalysts will come. It doesn't matter if we're under a holistic agreement or not. You know, we will monetize much of that.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

And in terms of the lease applications and activity that sits behind all of this, is that also supportive of the trends that you're discussing?

Rod Smith CFO

Yeah, I would say, I mean, we've seen with the deployment of the 5G cycles, we had kind of a peak in application volume a couple of years ago. That has come down a little bit. So application volume is down a little bit. You know, our services business this year will be lower than it was last year. That's evidence that the application volume has come down a little bit. And then I would say the catalyst that we're talking about are multi-year catalyst. We don't necessarily see that activity in our pipeline today in terms of applications, but we expect we will over time.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

And so, and just one more thing, because I know people focus on this, when you say come down, is that come down year over year or come down from the peak?

Rod Smith CFO

It has certainly come down from the peak and depending on which year you talk about, by definition, it's come down year over year. But we do think, you know, this year with application volume, services revenue and that, you know, 245, 245 million of revenue down from 345 million, you know, that's, that's a lower application volume than we saw in, you know, in the prior year.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

So when you, you know, take a step back on the spectrum catalyst, you know, one of the questions that comes up is the upper sea auction next year um it's at least as it exists today it's not really able to put you can deploy equipment whenever you want but it's you know a lot of it won't be able to be used till the end of 2030 and the end of 2031 um from the work that you're doing and your customers are doing do you see any evidence that that could be pulled forward and and see that maybe sooner we're not planning that that'll be um moved up pulled forward uh deployed sooner it doesn't mean it can't be Really, we're not involved in that, in the clearing of the spectrum and making it available

Rod Smith CFO

for the carriers. That'll happen when it happens. What I would say is that broadly will fit into their $30 to $35 billion a year investment cycle. They'll continue to deploy that level of capital, whether that spectrum is accelerated or not. There's plenty to do within the networks. And I would say that the network operators are very methodical and they plan well in So, you know, they have their build plans for this year, next year. They tweak them and they change them and priorities may shift a little bit. But they all know they're going to be improving the networks. They're going to be adding capacity into the networks. They're going to be densifying. Like they will be doing that regardless of the new spectrum being accelerated in terms of available or sticking to the schedule that happens today. They'll just they'll adjust it. But that's one of the things that is noticeable is the carrier cap investment is traditionally pretty consistent. And then with new technologies, it steps up. It doesn't go down. It steps up. In the very early stages of new technology development, you could have a bump up. And then it pulls back. It pulls back to a higher consistent level than the prior technology required consistently. That's what we see, and that's what we're seeing now. So whether that spectrum is accelerated in terms of its availability or not, we're comfortable that mobile data consumption goes up, carrier investments stay fairly consistent, our growth rates continue to chug along. Do you ever see a pause?

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

So with a potentially significantly sized auction coming up, carriers not knowing what they're going to spend on that, do you ever see them pause ahead of the auction or after the auction anything that we should be mindful of that could you know just add a little uh opportunity or friction to the you know cadence yeah they they certainly can be a little bit of that like when you think of the the carrier activity it really is for them to outline but the way they interact with us it's not consistent quarter over quarter every quarter year after year like they do have the ability to plan and move things around over a multi-year period things become much smoother, certainly.

Rod Smith CFO

Yeah, and I would say today we're at a post-5G deployment. You know, you could look at that and say part of that is maybe a little bit of a pause ahead of some of the new push of investments to get the networks to support the uplink capacity required to fix that asymmetry in terms of the uplink-downlink, as well as just getting ready for that demand that's coming across the networks.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

So maybe talk a moment about Satellite, and just a preview, we'll also try to hit capital allocation and talk maybe a little data center. So Satellite, how do you see the risk of Leos and Starlink displacing the need for carriers to have certain locations, particularly in rural areas, relative to the opportunity of seeing LEOs as potential customers?

Rod Smith CFO

I see the risk of displacing towers as immaterial. It's not something we worry about. We certainly spend time evaluating satellites, the engineering, and how it impacts things. We have a seat on AST Mobile satellite company we had for years. We're an investor in that company. This goes way back, but we used to own satellites. I don't know if you recall that. 25 years ago, American Tower, you know, had satellites in the sky. We know the business well. It's a good technology. It's getting better, certainly. And it is it's important and it's complementary to the terrestrial networks, not just in the U.S., but really around the globe. There are capacity limitations. It's more expensive than terrestrial networks. The latency isn't there the way it is in terms of the terrestrial networks. It's great to extend coverage to rural areas. We're not concerned with that from a tower perspective. I think that's actually a productive thing for the industry and for tower companies, not building assets in rural areas that have different return profiles than other assets. We've got lots of assets in suburban areas and approaching the urban areas. And with the co-location cycle, the network densification, new towers being built, we'd rather build them there than in rural areas. And if there are some rural sites, which there may be some, that the carriers over time don't renew because it can be satisfied and their customers aren't upset if they're not there, that's better for everyone, including us. We'll take those towers down if and when that comes. But it'll be an immaterial impact to our business, and it probably will be positive, not negative, because you get out from under carrying costs, leases, and other things for sites that really aren't that important in the wireless network in general. We can recycle that capital into suburban areas and more urban areas where you get multiple tenants and more growth, more revenue for the carriers. They're willing to pay a lot more for the leasing fee. So I think it's a good thing kind of across the board in satellite, you know, broadband delivery. We just don't see it as a threat to the tower business at all. And we see it as a complementary business to the wireless carriers in general.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

A few more things to hit, actually. So maybe we'll do a little bit of a speed round. So litigation, anything new on the process with DISH? How much are you seeking? And when do you think that could be resolved?

Rod Smith CFO

A process is ongoing. We want it all. And we'll just work through the litigation. Much of the milestones, the formal results from that, even the steps along the way will be public. People can go out and search on that. We're not going to talk about things that are not public when it comes to litigation. But that litigation is ongoing. And the key for us is that everyone knows we've de-risked our business when it comes to DISH. We have zero revenue and profit in our 26 outlook from DISH. It's hurting our growth rates this year. You all see that. It will be non-recurring next year. And our balance sheet is de-risked. We're not planning to collect anything from a balance sheet forecasting perspective. So anything we get from DISH, which we do think we'll get a settlement there, we're certainly entitled to it, and we'll see what the litigation decides, will be additive to the balance sheet. We may be able to pay down some more debt than we're planning to today. We might have less interest expense next year because of a settlement that we're not planning for in the balance sheet. So we've completely de-risked our business for addition. There is only upside remaining.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

Is there a number publicly in the bankruptcy filings that kind of puts a number on the amount you're seeking from them?

Rod Smith CFO

No. I mean, you can think about it as they owe us between $1 to $2 billion in terms of a net present value of the future leasing. Then when you think of the escrow agreement that was forced, our portion of a recovery there might be $500 or $600 million in that range. So those are two different aspects. Would they want to pay more than what's in the escrow? They probably would. We want what's in the escrow that should belong to us. But we also want a lot more than that. We want it all. Those are the numbers I think people can think about. $1 to $2 billion is what they owe us. From an escrow perspective, it's much less than that, maybe $500 million, just roughly speaking. Is there wrangling in the lawsuit for them to even pay us less than that. There absolutely is. But that's kind of just ballparking and giving people some way to conceptualize the array of potential outcomes.

Mike Rollins Analyst — Citi

So cap structure and then data center. So cap structure, your leverage is significantly lower than your two competitors. You've hit your under five times target. it. What's the opportunity to use this additional financial capacity to buy back shares, to think about opportunistic M&A, or do you think AMT will stay at this lower level for longer?

Rod Smith CFO

I would say from a balance sheet strength, the size of our company, the momentum, the critical positioning that we put ourselves in we view ourselves as a leader not a follower we're not looking to follow other people on a balance sheet management perspective to increase leverage we say three to five times because that's what we believe that's our comfort level being in the upper fours is where we really sit you know being below five but higher than four seven five that's that's a comfortable that's a comfortable zone that zone gives us a triple b plus credit rating and we you know we want to be the leader we're not looking to be the follower we've said that being below five times returns full financial flexibility to us that means we can buy back shares and you've seen us do that over time and you'll likely see us do it again if the shares are in a place where we think using that capacity then and there makes sense m&a we would look at m&a all the time yes we can do m&a and if we do m&a in the past we've gone above our target range in terms of leverage to execute the M&A, relying more on lower cost debt than higher priced equity. And then we delever. So being below five times is not a long-term handcuff that doesn't prevent us from doing things. It actually, in a very disciplined way, preserves capacity that we can flex up and then committing to delever. And it makes it really important that what we decide to flex our muscles on actually works out really well because we can flex up, but we have to also delever because we want to be the leader when it comes to the business quality, the balance sheet quality, the credit rating, the size of the company that we're building. We don't want to overload the balance sheet with risk. That's why we're also focused not just on balance sheet quality. We're very focused on earnings quality. We want a higher percentage of our earnings coming from the highest quality economies underpinned by the highest quality credit quality customers. And that means we want the riskier parts of our business to contribute less to the earnings. So earnings quality goes up. Balance equality goes up. We lead from both of those perspectives and we have the ability to flex our muscle when and where we find the right opportunities with a commitment you know to relax and to de-lever which we we always do uh rod uh that brings us to time it's great to see you thanks for spending time with us today nice to see you thanks everyone

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