Good day and welcome to the Blackstone Mortgage Trust Second Quarter 2026 Investor Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. If you require operator assistance at any time, please press star zero. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Tim Hayes, Vice President, Shareholder Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and welcome everyone to Blackstone Mortgage Trust's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Tim Johnson, Chief Executive Officer, Austin Pena, President, and Marcin Urbasic, Chief Financial Officer. This morning, we filed our 10-Q and issued a press release in the presentation of our results, which are available on our website and have been filed with the SEC. I'd like to remind everyone that today's call may include forward-looking statements which are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors outside of the company's control. Actual results may differ materially. For discussion of some of the risks that could affect results, please see the risk factor section of our most recent 10-K. We do not undertake any duty to update forward-looking statements. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP measures on this call. And for reconciliations, you should refer to the press release in 10-Q. This audio cast is copyrighted material of Blackstone Mortgage Trust who may not be duplicated without our consent. For the second quarter, we reported a GAAP net loss of $0.48 per share, while distributable earnings were $0.31 per share and distributable earnings prior to realized gains and losses were $0.48 per share. A few weeks ago, we paid a dividend of $0.47 per share with respect to the second quarter. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Tim.

Thanks, Tim. BXMT's second quarter results reflect continued execution of our goal of driving portfolio turnover and reallocating our capital into high-conviction investment themes. We received $1.2 billion of repayments in the second quarter, nearly all of which were seasoned loans originated before 2023. We reinvested our capital into $1.4 billion of new investments concentrated in sectors with strong underlying fundamentals, such as residential, industrial, and net lease. Over the past year, these sectors have accounted for approximately 80% of our total portfolio deployment, and we've leveraged our global platform to source investments offering highly compelling relative value. Our investment activity this quarter includes our entry into the single-family homebuilder finance sector. This is an area where there has been significant pullback from the banking system, and our platform positions as well to gain market share amidst a fragmented competitive landscape. We see a large-scale growth opportunity with a total addressable market of $200 billion. Investments in this sector help to further diversify BXMT's portfolio with granular, well-structured loans, delivering some of the most attractive risk-adjusted returns we see today, with mid- to high-teens levered yields. This strategy is reflective of our intentional approach to invest in high-conviction sectors, increase the granularity and diversity of our portfolio, and leverage our franchise to capture the best relative value opportunities across global markets. Another component of our portfolio turnover strategy is working our way through our legacy investments. On that front, we continued to make progress, resolving an impaired multifamily loan and completing a modification of our largest watchlist loan, contributing to a 23% reduction in our overall watchlist from last quarter. We are also taking advantage of current market liquidity to strategically sell certain assets. This week, we expect to launch a sales process for one of our largest assets, a 686-key Hyatt Hotel in San Francisco, capitalizing on the sharp fundamental recovery and increasing investor demand in that market. And we recently initiated sales processes for over $1 billion of loans, mostly office. We are disciplined, strategic sellers and expect only to transact at levels that we deem attractive. But at the right price, we believe reallocating this capital into our highest conviction investment themes is in the best long-term interest of our shareholders. Turning to portfolio performance, the overall trends we see are consistent with prior quarters, with the exception being that we're seeing higher rates impact some of our legacy watch list assets. We saw the pillars of the real estate recovery beginning to emerge in 2024, and they remain in place today. CMBS issuance is tracking a near 20-year high. New supply is down approximately 60% to 90% across major asset classes, and values have steadily improved for 10 consecutive quarters. These market tailwinds have supported strong performance in the vast majority of our portfolio, driving approximately $13 billion of repayments over the period and bringing back capital that we've reinvested into new investments that reflect today's fundamental backdrop. As a result, we've reduced our total office exposure from 36% of our portfolio to just 21% today, significantly enhancing the composition of our $20 billion portfolio. Recently, we've observed increased pressure on a subset of our portfolio, approximately $1 billion of watchlist loans, or about 5% of our total investments. These loans are predominantly secured by office assets with lower in-place cash flow and where fundamentals have lagged the broader real estate market, making them more sensitive to changes in the rate environment. These loans are on our watch list precisely for these reasons, but have been performing and supported by our institutional borrowers who have invested nearly $800 million of subordinate capital into these assets since the end of 2023. These borrowers have been playing through a challenging environment with the expectation that a recovery in fundamentals and lower rates were on the horizon. But given headwinds in these specific sectors and markets, performance has taken longer to recover, and rates, of course, have remained elevated, with the 10-year-up more than 60 basis points since early March. This dynamic was at play this quarter as we took three new impairments on loans where borrowers had previously been supporting them. As we engage with borrowers on this $1 billion subset of loans as they approach upcoming maturities or other decision points, Some may be similarly less willing to invest subordinate capital than they have been in the past. We think addressing these watchlist assets is critical to driving BXMT's long-term performance. Importantly, we believe the profile of these assets is different from what we see in the rest of our office portfolio. All of our other office watchlist loans have been modified or restructured, with significant new equity invested at a basis that reflects today's environment. And we've seen recent leasing momentum across these assets further supporting performance. And for our other performing office loans with risk rating 3 or better, nearly half are currently in the market for refinancing, while the remainder have strong in-place cash flow with an average debt yield of 10%. As we execute these strategies to accelerate portfolio turnover and address our watch list, we may see some impact on book value and earnings, which, as always, we will take into account, along with other factors such as interest rates and the investment environment as we discuss our dividend with the Board. We expect these initiatives to produce tangible near-term results. Between increased repayment activity and our proactive asset management approach, we see a path to reducing our exposure to both office loans and to legacy pre-2023 loans by 40% or more by year-end. And our new investments are laying the groundwork for a more diversified, granular BXMT, as evidenced by our average investment size declining from over $130 million just a few years ago to approximately $20 million today. This is our path forward. Address the tail of our portfolio and complete the transition to a more diversified business. We believe this best positions us to deliver strong, long-term performance for our shareholders, and we are well on our way. I'll now turn it over to Austin to discuss our investments and portfolio in greater detail.

Thanks, Tim. In the second quarter, BXMT closed $1.4 billion of investments across multiple strategies, underscoring the breadth and diversification of our global real estate credit platform. We originated $1.1 billion of loans with an average LTV of 61%, mostly secured by residential and industrial. 80% of our lending was in the U.S., and the remainder was in Europe and secured by well-leased diversified portfolios. We continue to grow our net lease strategy, where we acquired over $135 million of properties at share. Our portfolio now stands at $661 million. When we entered the net lease sector, we were faced with a choice, buy an existing platform to scale quickly, but likely at premium pricing, or build from scratch, invest time and resources to hire an experienced, dedicated team to thoughtfully assemble a portfolio underwritten with the benefit of the unique data and insights from the BlackStorm platform. We chose the latter, allowing BXMT to capture that aggregation premium for our investors. Our curated, high-quality portfolio adds granularity and duration with long-term, steadily increasing cash flows that serve as a natural complement to our floating rate lending strategy. And while just 3% of our portfolio today, we see continued growth ahead, with over $150 million of acquisitions closed or in closing so far in July. As Tim mentioned earlier, we continue to evolve and diversify our investment strategies. We entered the homebuilder finance sector, acquiring approximately $130 million of loans at share in a newly established joint venture. Like NetLease, HomeBuilder finance loans are geographically diverse and granular. The initial portfolio consisted of 36 loans across 10 states with an average loan commitment of just $12 million. Our joint venture with the largest private lender in the sector positions BXMT to grow our footprint in this attractive area over time. With a healthy real estate capital markets backdrop, we are seeing active pipeline activity across our origination channels, as well as robust repayments in our floating rate loan portfolio. This is a good setup to execute our various strategic initiatives and accelerate turnover of our portfolio. As Tim mentioned, we collected $1.2 billion of repayments in the quarter, effectively all originated prior to 2023. And in July, we've collected another $1.4 billion of similar vintage. This includes a €450 million paydown on our Dublin mixed-use loan, our largest position as of last quarter. This loan now represents just 25% of our initial commitment and generates a double-digit debt yield. Our loan portfolio ended the quarter at $17 billion across 133 loans, with the majority in multifamily and industrial sectors. Our portfolio was 97% performing at quarter end, down slightly from 98% last quarter, reflecting impairments of three loans, two traditional office assets and one mixed-use asset with a sizable office component, and the resolution of a Dallas multifamily loan, which we foreclosed on in June. Our most significant impairment in the quarter was a $345 million Chicago office loan originated in 2018. We downgraded this loan to our watch list in 2022, reflecting well-known challenges in the Chicago office market following the COVID-19 pandemic. While this asset has secured over 500,000 square feet of leasing over the last two and a half years, and the borrower had been supportive, investing incremental equity to fund leasing costs, the combination of elevated interest rates and continued headwinds in the Chicago market ultimately put more pressure on the borrower, who defaulted on the loan in June. Our asset management team acted quickly, and subsequent to quarter end, we substantially agreed terms on a restructure with the borrower who intends to commit significant new capital at a reset basis in exchange for additional term and a reduction of our loan balance, which is reflected in our CISO reserves as of quarter end. Following this modification, the asset will be well capitalized to reach stabilization with a seven-year average remaining lease term and minimal near-term rollover. Our watch list today sits at $2 billion, dollars, down from $2.5 billion last quarter. This reflects an upgrade of our largest watchless loan after completing a credit-enhancing modification that we mentioned on last quarter's call. In exchange for a term extension and slightly reduced economics, the borrower invested significant new equity, putting this loan on stable footing for the long term. We added three loans to our watchless this quarter, a Denver office loan and a hotel loan in Hawaii, both originated prior to 2023, and a multifamily loan in Australia, secured by a high-quality, new-build asset in Melbourne, a strong market with less than 2% vacancy. Our owned real estate portfolio consisted of 14 assets with $1.4 billion of carrying value at quarter end. As Tim mentioned, we expect to launch the sale of our Hyatt Hotel in San Francisco, our second-largest owned asset. We have several others that we are evaluating to bring to market this year, as we remain highly focused on reducing this portion of our portfolio and reinvesting that capital accretively into target investments. With a deeply experienced team of 170 real estate debt professionals and the resources of the broader Blackstone real estate platform, we are well positioned to execute our various strategic initiatives with a relentless focus on maximizing outcomes and delivering for our investors. With that, I will turn things over to Marcin.

Thank you, Austin. and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, BXMT reported a gap net loss of $0.48 per share and distributable earnings, or DE, of $0.31 per share. DE included $29 million of realized losses primarily related to the resolution of an impaired Dallas multifamily loan following the foreclosure of the collateral property. We now hold the asset on the balance as owned real estate at a significant discount to prior ownership's basis. DE prior to realized gains and losses was $0.48 per share, which covered our $0.4710 per share dividend, but was down a penny from the prior quarter. DE prior to realized gains and losses benefited from continued growth in our unconsolidated joint ventures as we actively deployed capital across our net lease and single-family homebuilder finance businesses. Altogether, we had $322 million of capital investing in our joint venture investments at quarter-end, up from $244 million as in Q1, and recognized a little over $9 million of DE this quarter from these diversified strategies. We also recognized higher seasonal net revenues generated by our New York hotel, which contributed to $15 million of NOI we earned from our own real estate assets this quarter, up about $1 million from Q1. Looking ahead to Q3, we expect DE will be impacted by the new loan impairments recognized in the quarter and the timing of several large repayments collected in July. Book value ended the second quarter at $19.31 per share, down 4% from Q1, primarily due to an $0.80 per share increase in CISO reserves and $0.12 per share of depreciation and amortization related to our own real estate assets. In total, book value includes $2.43 per share of total CISO reserves, of which $1.13 per share is the general reserve, and $1.30 per share are the asset-specific reserves. The majority of the net increase in the CISO reserve this quarter was related to the impairment of a large Chicago office loan Austin discussed earlier, which we believe is appropriately reserved for. The modest decline in our Q2 general reserve reflects risk rating movements this quarter, including a smaller balance of watchless loans. Turning to BXMT's capitalization, we ended the quarter with $1.2 billion of liquidity. Our Q2 debt-to-equity ratio increased to 3.9 times from 3.7 times in Q1, mainly due to the timing of repayments and the increase in CECL. We remain active across the capital markets. In May, we issued $450 million of senior secured notes which largely pre-funded our corporate debt maturity set to occur in the first quarter of 2027. The offering was met with strong investor demand and priced at the tightest new issue spread we've ever achieved across our corporate debt complex. Upon repayment of the 2027 notes, we will have nearly five years of weighted average remaining term on our corporate debt and no maturities until 2029. Working closely with our sophisticated capital markets team, we continue to drive lower financing costs and are now regularly borrowing at or near our historical all-time types. We also closed on a new non-market-to-market lending facility with a major bank in the UK. Our ability to source unique and attractive investments for our portfolio, combined with our broad access to various and attractively priced sources of capital, remain some of our key competitive advantages. Our balance sheet continues to be very well positioned, with total non-mark-to-market borrowings now representing about 88% of total debt, and with no capital markets mark-to-market provisions throughout our capital structure. Thank you again for joining us today, and I will now ask the operator to open a call to questions.

Thank you. As a reminder, please press star 1 to ask a question. We ask you to limit yourself to one question and one follow-up to allow as many callers to join the queue as possible. We will take our first question from Tom Catherwood with BTIG.

Thanks, and good morning, everybody. Maybe either Tim or Austin, I just want to square up the commentary on CISL reserves and the potential sale of a billion or a billion plus in loans. So it sounds like CISL reserves were, especially the specific ones, were primarily on the three assets downgraded to the five-rated bucket. But when you think of the billion in the loans that's out there, from a marking standpoint, is that marked to where you're getting bids at right now? What's the process for maybe adjusting that going forward and the potential for additional reserves as you get towards the sale?

Yeah, thanks, Tom. This is Tim. I'd say that process is still pretty early on in terms of the loan sale. So we're going to review what we get. And as we noted in the prepared remarks, that is kind of an optional sale. We're looking to take advantage of what we think is a reasonably liquid market to sell loans. And so there are not reserves against those billion dollars of loans today. And as we evaluate what we receive in terms of bids, we'll walk through that next quarter after we have more information. Right.

Perfect. And as a follow-up, obviously, that's an optional sale, but there are other sales you have teed up. You mentioned the sale of the Hyatt Hotel in San Francisco. When you think of this goal of kind of being a more diversified platform, what are your capital allocation priorities for the proceeds from these sales as they come in? Do you primarily put them into loans, or could you look to accelerate net lease investments or invest kind of elsewhere in a variety of different strategies? What are your thoughts on those priorities?

Yeah, it's a great question, and it really is about that rotation into the strategies that we have the most conviction and we think have the best relative value today. And as we highlighted in the prepared remarks, net lease, home builder finance, as well as our traditional lending businesses are all provide compelling opportunities. So we're going to take that capital back in and we'll evaluate, you know, each and every option we have in the market to determine where the best relative value is. But we highlighted some of those areas and you've seen it in our recent investment activity where we're putting that capital. it's really concentrated in the sectors where we see the best underlying fundamentals and where we think we can achieve the best relative value in terms of returns.

Great. Thanks for the answers.

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Jade Romani with KPW.

Thank you very much. So the $1 billion of watchlist loans that are, you said, at the margin impacted by higher rates. Are those risk four rated loans?

Yes, Jade. This is Austin. Those are on our watch list, which yes, have a risk rating of four.

Okay. And those are primarily office? Yes.

That would, yes.

Okay. My main question is if you're starting to see pressure in multifamily loan performance, you know, how do you think sponsors are thinking about the outlook today. I think that multifamily rent growth was about flat this quarter year on year. The negative rent growth in Sunbelt is a little bit better than it had been, but still negative. So are investors seeing the light at the end of the tunnel on supply for 2027 and looking to hold through this period of high rates, or are they more worried about rates where they are and ability to cover debt service and kind of value recovery. So, you know, just what are your views on multifamily credit risk?

Yeah, I think we continue to see broadly really good liquidity in multifamily, both within our portfolio and more broadly in the markets. And I think a good thing to highlight would be that we've received about $5 billion of repayments of multifamily loans originated in 21 and 22, and there have been repayments recently, and we're expecting repayments in the near term that are pre-22 vintage multifamily. I think that the diversity of capital sources in that space is a real valuable thing for refinancing activity. You've got a broad base of investor appetite for multifamily loans. And as you noted, we are seeing fundamentals generally improve in multifamily. Net absorption nationally in the first half was the strongest in five years. So we are seeing positive trends there. And I'd say in our portfolio, we continue to see good fundamentals and good liquidity and repayment activity.

Thank you very much. If I could squeeze one more in and just be on special situations and M&A, you know, we've seen a pickup in the real estate space, whether it be equity REITs, but then even in the commercial mortgage REIT space, you know, one company selling its portfolio and liquidating and another announcing strategic alternatives. Do you expect to participate in M&A, and do you think this could be a source of attractive opportunities?

Sure, Jade. It's Tim again. I'd say, you know, first we're always going to evaluate opportunities to maximize shareholder value, and we see what's going on in the markets. I think we are pursuing some attractive things today, like we've talked about with portfolio turnover, looking to sell a loan portfolio to do some of that redeployment of capital. I really think when we look at things like M&A, we kind of look at it as a build versus a buy, you know, concept. And we've generally chosen build, you know, in terms of our net lease strategy and our home builder strategy. And we think we offer a really compelling investment opportunity to the market broadly, given our $78 billion overall real estate debt platform. We can create some very compelling opportunities that are very difficult to access. We think we have a platform that can deliver something that's really valuable to shareholders. And we're going to continue on that path, but we'll always evaluate opportunities as they arise.

We will take our next question from Harsh Hamnani with GreenStreet.

Thank you. As we sort of think through the decision to, you know, sell a portion of the office loan portfolio, could you maybe talk through the thinking behind that? So I guess on the one hand, it makes sense the office market is not great, even though fundamentals are starting to improve. So I guess on the one side, fundamentals are starting to improve, and there could be, if you wait for a little bit, recovery might be higher. And on the flip side of that, you've talked about this when entering the bank loan portfolio joint ventures, there's certain accruing and earning assets that may fit better in a REIT wrapper in the public market. and it's sort of fair to expect that some of these office loans may be non-accruing and a drag on distributable earnings in the short term. So I guess how do you address the question as to this decision was made more from a perspective of long-term shareholder value creation than from it being an exercise in near-term earnings management? How do you address sort of investor concerns around that? And how were you thinking of that internally?

I'd say, this is Tim.

I'd say, first of all, the loan sale process is early stage and underway. And as we noted, we're under no obligation to sell. And we may look at selling some, all, or none of it. So there are many options here. I think it's really about rotating our portfolio more than sort of something driven by a near-term earnings impact. It's really about rotating our portfolio into the sectors where we see the best fundamentals, the best risk-adjusted return, and the best relative value. And what's underpinning it is that, as I noted before, we're very active in the loan trading market, and you noted it as well, really more as a buyer than a seller, but we see good liquidity in that space. So, if we can take advantage of an opportunity to rotate out of office into other sectors, we think that is going to be, you know, the best outcome for long-term value for our shareholders. But, of course, we're going to look at price, and it's going to work for us and make sense relative to, you know, the risk of those underlying loans themselves.

Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe in terms of the balance sheet, right, But total leverage has picked up a little bit in the high fours, if you include the CLOs. And as you've sort of diversified all the new ventures, the net lease portfolios, the bank loan portfolios that show up as equity interests on the balance sheet have their own leverage added on to it. I guess, how are you thinking about leverage at this point if and when there are any office asset sales? Does part of it get used to de-level the balance sheet, or are you fairly comfortable with leverage levels where they are?

Thanks, Horace. It's Marcin. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for your question. Look, I think, as I mentioned in my preferred remarks, the leverage was a little elevated at the end of the quarter, largely driven by the timing of some repayments and obviously the CISO reserves. It's still within our three to four times debt-to-equity range. Given all the repayments that we've already realized in July that Austin mentioned earlier, it's safe to say leverage is down quite a bit since quarter end. But I think our overall leverage strategy is not shifting or changing at the moment. It's obviously a function of the market conditions, balance, and structure, cost, and structure of leverage. So we intend to be in that three to four times debt-to-equity range going forward. But, again, quarter to quarter, there will be some variability depending on the timing of closing of repayments and originations.

Thank you.

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Rick Shane with J.P. Morgan.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. One quick cleanup question, and I just apologize. Policies diverge across the industry. Do you guys realize losses when you put REO and mark it down, or do you wait until you actually complete the sale for the realization event?

Hey, Rick, it's Marcin. We realize the loss when we take over, when we foreclose or consolidate the asset. That happened in this quarter with that Denver multifamily loan. And then, obviously, as we own real estate, you know, we are required to assess them for any potential impairments every quarter. We should go through a robust process, but that initial charge-up happens when you take ownership.

Got it. So, assuming, for example, the San Francisco Hotel is sold close to your carrying value, no further realized losses associated with that?

We look at what the net proceeds are vis-a-vis where we carry it, and then if there needs to be an adjustment, there is one. Okay, great.

Look, you know, Marcin, you alluded to the fact that there's going to be some drag versus distributable X losses in the third quarter. Can you help us think about where that run rate is versus the 48 cents that you guys reported in the second?

Look, I think it's hard given all the moving pieces right now, and it's still early in the quarter. Obviously, given some of the impairments we took in Q2 and the pretty substantial repayment volume that we had this quarter, we do expect some impact to the third quarter. But again, you know, it'll take us probably a couple of quarters to be fully deployed with the money that we're getting back. So it's hard to say exactly where we're going to be right now on a run rate basis. There's a lot of things moving around at the moment.

Got it. Okay, and that actually leads to my final question, which is how should we think about that in the context of dividend and dividend policy? If, for example, you know, do you guys, how far forward do you look in setting that policy? If we are in a situation over the next, for example, two to three quarters where there is a shortfall, does it make sense to recalibrate the dividend that quickly? or are you looking at a sort of more optimistic dividend run rate once you're fully redeployed? Because, again, you're sort of saying, hey, look, DPS is going to come down. There was a comment about reevaluating dividend. And, again, I think that's sort of a generic comment that you do that every quarter. But I think everybody really needs to know the interplay between the drag on earnings and the dividend policy in the near term?

Yeah, thanks, Rick. I'd say, you know, conceptually, the dividend is really focused around long-term earnings power of the business, and that's how we've always looked at it. Marcin noted there's some short-term impacts, and there are a number of moving pieces. Obviously, as Marcin said, we had impairments in the second quarter, and, you know, given the initiatives that we're undertaking to drive portfolio turnover, as we noted in the prepared remarks, it's possible we see impacts from that. So there's a number of moving pieces that we'll have to evaluate with the board, and it's too early to kind of tell what that's going to look like right now. But what we're going to evaluate really is the long-term earnings power of the business, you know, and that's what we evaluate when we look at the dividend.

Got it. Thank you guys very much.

Thank you. We will take our final question from Marissa Lobo with UBS.

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. You mentioned that nearly half of your performing office loans were three-rated or better, and they're currently in the refi market. And with the tenure up, what are you seeing in terms of lender appetite for these processes, and what's the contingency if they don't close by year end?

Yeah, thanks, Marissa. It's Austin. You know, I think as we noted, obviously, you know, rates are moving around. But what we've seen very recently, as we noted earlier, is a really liquid debt market. We've gotten a lot of repayments, a lot in the second quarter, another nearly $1.5 billion so far in July. And so you see an active CMBS market, as Tim mentioned earlier. So we really see a pretty active capital markets out there and strong demand from lenders to finance good assets. And, you know, as Tim mentioned, and as you alluded to, you know, that includes a lot of different sectors, including a lot of our office loans. And so, you know, today we continue to see a lot of activity in the refinance market and the capital markets. And nothing's really changed, I would say, you know, sitting here today.

Okay. Thank you. And then just shifting to the portfolio rotation, you cited a $200 billion TAM in homebuilder finance. What is the realistic allocation for BXMT in the sector over the next year, and how does the credit profile of these loans compare to your transitional lending book?

Yeah, thanks. This is Austin. We're really excited about this new opportunity and this sector. you know, we really see a few things that make this what we think a really attractive and compelling opportunity. The first is, you know, the overall sector of housing in the U.S. is undersupplied, and that creates a good fundamental setup. Secondly, there's been a pretty big pullback in lending to the space, particularly with regional banks that have historically big lenders to this sector. And then finally, as Tim mentioned earlier, you know, this is a sector where it's really hard to access these investments without, you know, without a platform. And in terms of the underlying loans, you know, they're very granular. They're very geographically diverse. So you really need, you know, a national footprint and a presence in this space to access these investments. And, you know, for those reasons, you know, what we're seeing in the space is really an interesting and pretty compelling yield opportunity. In terms of the underlying loans themselves, they're really well-structured, typically carry, you know, very good recourse to corporate entities, in many cases individuals. They're often on cross portfolios. And so from an underlying credit perspective, we really like the credit. And of course, the return also, you know, we think is attractive. The last thing I would say is, you know, we've partnered with the largest private lender to the space. They have a really great product suite that they can offer to this market. And so we think that really sets us up well to grow in this space, and we're just getting started, but we think we have a really good foundation.

Got it.

Appreciate the answers. Thank you. With no additional questions in queue, I will turn the call back over to Tim Hayes for any additional or closing remarks.

Yeah, thank you, Katie, and to everyone on today's call, please reach out with any questions.

That will conclude today's call. We appreciate your participation.