Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us, and welcome to Penguin Solutions' second quarter Fiscal 2026 Earnings Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Suzanne Schmidt, Investor Relations. Suzanne, please go ahead.
Thank you, Operator. good afternoon and thank you for joining us on today's earnings conference call and webcast to discuss penguin solutions second quarter fiscal 2026 results on the call today our cash shake chief executive officer and Nate Olmsted chief financial officer you can find the accompanying slide presentation and press release for this call on the investor relations section of our website we encourage you to go to the site throughout the quarter for the most current information on the company i would also like to remind everyone to read the note on the use of forward-looking statements that is included in the press release and the earnings call presentation please note that during this conference call the company will make projections and forward-looking statements including but not limited to statements about the market demand technology shifts industry trends and the company's growth trajectory and financial outlook business plans and strategy including investment plans product development and roadmap anticipated sales orders revenue and customer growth and diversification and existing and potential strategic agreements and collaborations forward-looking statements are based on current beliefs and assumptions and are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to risks and uncertainties including without limitation the risks and uncertainties reflected in the press release and the earnings call presentation filed today as well as in the company's most recent annual and quarterly reports the forward-looking statements are representative only as of the date they are made and except as required by applicable law we assume no responsibility to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements We will also discuss both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. Non-GAAP measures should not be considered in isolation from, as a substitute for, or superior to our GAAP results. We encourage you to consider all measures when analyzing our performance. A reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today's press release and accompanying slide presentation. And with that, let me now turn the call over to Cash Sheik, CEO.
Good afternoon. Thank you for joining our second quarter F526 earnings call. This is my first earnings call as CEO of Penguin Solutions, and I'm excited to step into this I want to start by thanking Mark Adams for his leadership and for the strong foundation he built. Since joining in early February, I've spent significant time with customers, partners, and our teams around the world. I've witnessed the strength of the company, both in our technology and our customer relationships. What is clear is this, AI is moving from experimentation to production, with workloads increasingly shifting towards real-time inference. We are already seeing this translate into customer demand beyond hyperscale across enterprise, neocloud, and sovereign AI markets. We expect this transition to expand our addressable market and drive increased demand for integrated AI infrastructure, where Penguin is already winning. We see this firsthand in the breadth of our deployments from a sovereign AI factory in in South Korea to enterprise voice AI with Deepgram to large-scale research systems with Georgia Tech along with a growing pipeline across all three market segments what makes this opportunity so significant is that the architecture of AI is also changing. Model training was largely compute bound. Inference hovering agentic AI is memory bound and latency sensitive. We believe this is driving a re-architecture of the data center across compute, memory interconnect and software we also see AI driving memory demand not only for the high bandwidth memory or HBM used with GPUs or other accelerators but also for general purpose memory general purpose compute wraps around every GPU build out and whether it's reinforcement learning pipeline or inference survey that workload runs on processors backed by significant memory content across the entire system so while memory markets are cyclical we believe AI is adding a more durable layer of demand for memory as AI factory scale I expect customers to increasingly prioritize partners that deliver with speed and precision along with full stack AI factory platform capabilities including compute scalable memory systems cluster management software end-to-end services and a partner ecosystem to deliver a differentiated solution time to deployment is now directly tied to time to force token against this backdrop we are building penguin into an AI factory platform company our AI factory platform is built around six core elements. First, Penguin clusterware, our AI infrastructure management software. Second, our new Penguin Memory AI line of systems designed specifically for AI inference workloads. Third, Penguin advanced computing systems optimized for AI workloads. Fourth, penguin origin AI factory architectures of a reference designs for AI factories and fifth and sixth end-to-end services and our partner ecosystem production grade AI factories required full-stack design across compute memory storage networking and software we partner with leading AI companies including Nvidia and SK Telecom and partners like Dell we also offer complete end-to-end services spanning design build deploy and manage services we are strategically positioned at the intersection of AI infrastructure and memory with a long track record in both. Few, if any, companies combine these capabilities at scale. We believe that together, our AI infrastructure and memory expertise position us to meet the evolving requirements of AI infrastructure as it shifts towards inference workloads. This supports our ability to develop differentiated solution. Given the momentum we are seeing in our AI infrastructure business and the significant market opportunity ahead of us, we are very focused in this area. We plan to invest more in our AI factory platform to accelerate our AI business growth, specifically in product innovation, go to market, and customer engagement in march at nvidia gtc conference we announced two ai inference centric solutions aligned with this strategy first the penguin memory ai server building upon our compute express link or cxl based memory expansion capabilities we introduce a new line of scalable memory systems called Memory AI. CXL is a high-speed interconnect that enables scalable shared memory across GPUs and CPUs. We also announce the immediate availability of our new Memory AI KV cache server here KV or key value cache stores inference context to accelerate large language model responses second the expansion of our origin AI factory architecture portfolio which now includes blueprints that address the larger workloads and the low latency demands of AI inference we also continue to expand capabilities of clusterware toward a unified control plane for AI factory infrastructure integrating the open ecosystem to deliver repeatable production scale deployments to accelerate the innovation and strengthen our leadership team. We recently appointed Ian Kholey as Senior Vice President and Chief Product Officer. Ian brings more than two decades of experience building AI infrastructure platforms and scaling high-performance computing, most recently at Amazon Web Services. He was recently named by HPC Wire to its people to watch 2026 list reflecting his reputation in the industry now let me briefly address our second quarter performance in q2 we delivered net sales of 343 million non-gap gross margin was 31.2 percent non-gap diluted earnings per share were 52 cents these results reflect strong demand and execution in memory and continued progress in our AI HPC business before turning to the segments I would like to address our updated outlook as Nate will describe in further detail following our solid due to net sales and EPS performance we are raising the midpoint of our full year net sales and EPS outlook we are raising our outlook for our integrated memory business fueled by AI driven demand strong execution by our team and favorable pricing dynamics while our second have advanced computing net sales outlook is lower than our prior expectations we are encouraged by strong year-over-year due to bookings growth for non-hyperscalar ai hpc business which included five new ai hpc customer wins that brings our first half total this year to seven new ai hpc logos compared to three in the first half of last year with that context let me turn a closer look at each of the segments starting with advanced computing net sales for the quarter were hundred and sixteen million representing 34% of total company net sales and declined year-over-year advanced computing net sales for the second quarter reflect both the timing of large deployments and our transition away from hyperscaler concentration they also reflect the previously disclosed wind down of our penguin edge business we believe diversification of net sale and wind down of penguin edge will strengthen the long-term quality of the business as I mentioned we are transitioning our AI infrastructure business from hyperscaler concentration toward a more diversified customer base across enterprise, neocloud, and sovereign AI. This transition is showing very encouraging progress, but we still have more work to do. Non-hyperscale AI HPC net sales grew 50% year over year for the first half of the year representing over 40 percent of first half segment net sales supported by strong non-hyperscale year-over-year booking growth in the quarter including five new ai hbc logos across financial services biomedical research and energy we expect further diversification in the second half of the fiscal year. Our AI HPC pipeline continues to strengthen with opportunities to acquire additional logos in the second half of the fiscal year across enterprise, neocloud, sovereign AI customers. As previously discussed, these engagements typically progress over many months from prospecting to design to award followed by contracting and ultimately system build and deployment while this sale cycle can be long often 12 to 18 months and can introduce quarterly next sales variability it also supports deeper customer relationships repeat business and a more durable long-term growth I'm encouraged by the trajectory of the business and the signals we are seeing in the market beyond the numbers we are also seeing increased activity in specific enterprise verticals for example we recently announced our collaboration with deepgram and dell to support enterprise voice ai deployments this win highlights the growing demand for low latency production scale inference infrastructure in real-time applications in this engagement penguin designed and deployed an optimized inference environment built on Dell PowerEd servers and NVIDIA RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell GPUs. This solution facilitates deepgrams, speech-to-text, text-to-speech, and voice agent functionalities for applications within healthcare and retail sectors. this case study also demonstrate how design and integration expertise delivers differentiated value as inference workload scale we expect these types of deployments to become an increasingly important driver of AI infrastructure demand Georgia Tech's AI makerspace developed in partnership with NVIDIA is a strong example. Our relationship with Georgia Tech continues to grow and validates Penguin's ability to help organization move efficiently from concept to production grade AI infrastructure. Now turning to integrated memory, net sales for the quarter was 172 million representing 50% of total company net sales and grew 63% year-over-year AI driven demand remains strong across networking telecommunications and computing market segments pricing dynamics were favorable and all those supply remain tight, we continue to manage constraints effectively through our supplier relationships and disciplined procurement. Stepping back, our AI HPC and memory segments taken together enable us to integrate compute and memory architecture in ways that meet the requirements of production AI environments. memory architecture is becoming increasingly central to AI performance particularly as inference workload scale our early investments in CXL position as well as customers evaluate more dynamic memory architectures furthermore we are beginning to see this demand translate into customer deployments including a recent substantial order for cxl cards from a generative ai company building solutions for inference workloads this reinforces our strategic position at the intersection of memory and ai infrastructure to capitalize on the next phase of ai focused on inference, powering, agentic AI workloads. These solutions are sold to enterprise AI infrastructure buyers, the same customers we serve in our AI HPC business. For example, we sold our CXL-powered KVCache servers to a tier one financial institution for their on-premise AI factory in parallel we continue to advance development of our photonic memory appliance or PMA formerly referred to as OMA which is designed to extend memory capacity and bandwidth for large-scale AI environments. We were an early investor in a photonic memory company, Celestial AI, reflecting our long-standing focus in memory architecture innovation and our early conviction in the importance of optical interconnects for next-generation AI systems. Celestial AI was recently acquired by Marvell in a multi-billion dollar deal. Beyond the portion of proceeds we received from the acquisition as an investor, we are positioning ourselves for future growth in this market. As inference workloads expand, technologies like PMA can help address key memory scaling challenges in the next generation AI systems last but not least LED net sales for the quarter were 56 million representing 16% of total company net sales and were down 7% year-over-year the business continues to operate with focused leadership and dedicated operational discipline while market conditions remain mixed we are maintaining a disciplined approach to investment and capital allocation we are focused on optimizing portfolio value while concentrating resources on areas where we see the strongest long-term returns. In close, the demand for data center AI infrastructure and memory is expanding rapidly. AI factories are becoming infrastructure that powers artificial intelligence across a range of industries. As AI shifts toward inference and agentic systems and scales across large enterprise neocloud and sovereign AI environments we expect demand to accelerate at the same time memory is becoming a defining constraint and a defining opportunity penguin sits at the intersection of AI infrastructure and memory innovation and we believe that is a powerful position to be in our focus is clear we are prioritizing four areas first to invest in product innovation across our AI factory platform particularly at the intersection of AI infrastructure and memory to drive profitable growth second to execute with speed and precision third to deepen customer engagement and our ecosystem to support long-term growth and fourth to continue diversifying our customer base while building toward more consistent and predictable growth we believe this focus positions as well to execute in a rapidly evolving market while continuing
to build a durable and scalable business with that I'll turn it over to Nate thanks cash I will focus my remarks on our non-GAAP results which are reconciled to GAAP in our earnings release tables and in the investor materials available on our website with that let me now turn to our second quarter results in the quarter total penguin solutions net sales for three hundred and forty three million dollars down six percent year-over-year non-gap gross margin came in at thirty one point two percent which was up zero point four percentage points versus q2 last year non-gap operating margin was thirteen 19.2%, down 0.2 percentage points versus last year, and non-GAAP diluted earnings per share were $0.52, flat year-over-year. In the second quarter of fiscal 2026, our overall services net sales totaled $64 million, up 1% versus the prior year. Product net sales were $279 million in the quarter, down 8% versus the prior year. Net sales by business segment were as follows. In advanced computing, Q2 net sales were $116 million, which was 34% of total company net sales and down 42% year-over-year. This sales decline reflects both the ongoing wind-down of our Penguin Edge business and hyperscale hardware sales in Q2 last year, which did not recur in Q2 this year. Drilling down deeper into our advanced computing results, our non-hyperscale AI HPC net sales were down 35% year-over-year in the quarter, but up 50% for the first half of the year. Given the project nature of the business, where sales can be lumpy from one quarter to the next, we believe looking at the multi-quarter trend is a helpful way to evaluate the growth in this portion of our business. In addition to solid first-half growth in our non-hyperscale AI HPC business, we continue to make good progress on diversifying our net sales to new customer segments. For the first half of the year, the non-hyperscale AI HPC business represented more than 40 percent of total advanced computing net sales versus approximately 20 percent in the first half of last year. we expect to see our mix of net sales from enterprises neoclouds and sovereign ai customers increase further in the second half of this fiscal year in integrated memory q2 net sales were 172 million dollars which was 50 percent of total company net sales and up strongly with 63 growth year over year and an optimized led q2 net sales were 56 million dollars which was 16% of total company net sales and down 7% versus the same quarter last year. Non-GAAP gross margin for Penguin Solutions in the second quarter was 31.2%, up 0.4 percentage points year over year and up 1.2 percentage points sequentially, with strong margin performance in each business, driven primarily by product mix and advanced computing, favorable pricing and memory, and tariff recovery in LED. We currently project lower gross margins in the second half, driven by a higher mix of lower margin AI hardware and memory sales, rising memory costs in our AI factory solutions, and less tariff cost recovery in LED. Non-GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter were $62 million, down 3% year over year, and relatively flat sequentially. We expect a modest sequential increase in operating expenses in the second half, reflecting normal seasonality and increased investments in R&D, including for our clusterware software and memory AI solutions. Q2 non-GAAP operating income was $45 million, down 8% year-over-year, and up 9% versus last quarter. Operating margins were down 0.2 percentage points versus the prior year, but up 1.1 points sequentially, driven by higher sequential gross margins in both memory and advanced computing. Non-GAAP diluted earnings per share for the second quarter were $0.52, flat versus Q2 last year, and up 7% versus the prior quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was $50 million, down 6% year-over-year, and up 11% versus the prior quarter. Turning to the balance sheet, for working capital, our net accounts receivable totaled $371 million compared to $330 million a year ago, with the increase driven by higher memory sales volumes and variations in sales linearity across the quarters. Days sales outstanding were healthy at 50 days, consistent with the prior year, and down one day versus last quarter. inventory totaled 322 million at the end of the second quarter up from 200 million dollars a year ago reflecting increased memory costs growth in our memory business and strategic purchases to fulfill memory and ai demand in the second half of the year days of inventory was 51 days up from 37 days a year ago and 38 days last quarter primarily due to our strategic memory purchases and the timing of receipts and shipments. Accounts payable were $401 million at the end of the quarter, up from $238 million a year ago, due primarily to higher memory costs, growth in our memory business, and the timing of purchases and payments. Days payable outstanding was 63 days compared to 44 days last year and 55 days last quarter. The year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter movements were due to the timing of purchases and payments. Our cash conversion cycle was 38 days, an improvement of five days compared to Q2 last year and up three days versus last quarter due to the timing of purchases and payments. Consistent with past practice, days sales outstanding, days payables outstanding, and inventory days are calculated on a gross sales and a gross cost of goods sold basis, which were 672 million and 578 million, respectively, in the second quarter. As a reminder, the difference between gross and net sales is primarily related to our memory businesses' logistics services, which are accounted for on an agent basis, meaning that we only recognize the net profit on logistics services as net sales. Cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments totaled $489 million at the end of the second quarter down 158 million versus q2 last year and up 28 million sequentially the year-over-year fluctuation was primarily due to proceeds from the issuance of preferred shares in q2 of last year offset by debt repayments for our term loan in q4 of last year sequentially the cash increase was due to cash generated from operating activities as well as approximately 32 million dollars received from proceeds from the disposition of our investment in Celestial AI in connection with its sale to Marvell technology. These sources of cash were partially offset by our share repurchase activity in the quarter. We ended the quarter with $450 million of debt, down $20 million versus last quarter due to the retirement of our 2026 convertible notes. In total, we closed the quarter in a net cash position and based on our current debt maturity schedule have no further scheduled debt payments due until 2029 second quarter cash flows provided by operating activities totaled 55 million dollars compared to 73 million dollars provided by operating activities in the prior year quarter the decrease in cash flow in the quarter versus last year was due primarily to investments in networking capital to support growth for the second half of this fiscal year For those of you tracking capital expenditures and depreciation, capital expenditures were $2 million in the second quarter and depreciation was $5 million for the quarter. Wrapping up our cash flow activities, we spent $32 million to repurchase approximately 1.7 million shares in the second quarter under our stock repurchase program. As of February 27th, 2026, an aggregate of $64.5 million remained available for the repurchase of our common stock under the current authorizations. And now turning to our outlook. given our solid half one performance and an improved half two outlook for our memory business we are raising our full company net sales and non-gap diluted eps outlook for the year which at the midpoint now calls for 12 percent net sales growth and two dollars and 15 cents of non-gap diluted eps up from our previous outlook of six percent net sales growth and two dollars of non-GAAP diluted EPS. As a reminder, our full year outlook assumes that we will continue to diversify our customer sales mix and does not include any advanced computing AI hardware sales to hyperscale customers. And also consistent with our assumptions from last quarter, our FY26 financial outlook reflects the ongoing wind down of our high margin penguin edge business. We expect sales from this business to essentially cease by the end of fiscal 2026. The combined effect of these two assumptions in our FY26 outlook remains approximately a 14 percentage point unfavorable year-over-year impact to our total company net sales growth and approximately a 30 percentage point unfavorable impact to advanced computing. With that said, our full-year net sales outlook reflects the following full-year growth ranges by segment. For advanced computing, we now expect full-year net sales to change between minus 25 and minus 15 percent year-over-year. While our advanced computing net sales outlook for this fiscal year is lower than our previous forecast, we are encouraged by our AI HPC bookings, including several new logos and pipeline growth. As it has previously, this outlook reflects the Penguin Edge and hyperscale hardware sales impacts mentioned earlier. For memory, we now expect net sales to grow between 65% and 75% year-over-year, driven by strong demand and a favorable pricing environment. And for LED, we continue to expect net sales to decline between minus 15% and minus 5% year-over-year. Our non-GAAP gross margin outlook for the full year is now 28%, plus or minus 0.5 percentage points. We adjusted our gross margin outlook down by one percentage point to account for a higher mix of memory sales, which have a lower gross margin than our company average, and higher memory costs in our AI hardware business. Our full year expectation for total non-GAAP operating expenses remains $250 million, and we have narrowed that range to plus or minus $5 million. For FY26, we now expect a non-GAAP diluted share count of approximately 53 million shares, down from our prior outlook, primarily reflecting the impact of our recent share repurchases. Our non-GAAP full-year diluted earnings per share is now expected to be approximately $2.15, plus or minus $0.15. cents. Our forecasted FY26 non-GAAP tax rate remains at 22%. And while we expect to use this normalized non-GAAP tax rate throughout FY26 and beyond, the long-term non-GAAP tax rate may be subject to changes for a variety of reasons, including the rapidly evolving global and U.S. tax environment, significant changes in our geographic earnings mix, or changes to our strategy or business operations our outlook for fiscal year of 2026 is based on the current environment which contemplates among other things the global macroeconomic environment and ongoing supply chain constraints especially as they relate to our advanced computing and integrated memory businesses this includes extended lead times for certain components that are incorporated into our overall solutions impacting how quickly we can ramp existing and new customer projects and fulfill customer orders our outlook also contemplates the industry-wide higher costs for memory which may slow customer demand for our products and solutions and may lower our gross margins in our advanced computing and memory businesses overall we believe our focused execution disciplined expense management and balance sheet strength provide a strong foundation for sustained profitable growth. We expect these qualities to support our continued progress as we pursue opportunities to enhance long term shareholder value. Please refer to the non-GAAP financial information section and the reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures tables in our earnings release and the investor materials on our website for further details. With that operator we are ready for Q&A.
Operator
We will now begin the question and answer session please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up if you'd like to ask a question please press star one to raise your hand to withdraw your question press star one again we ask that you pick up your headset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality if you are muted locally please remember to unmute your device please stand by while we compile the q a roster your first question comes from the line of catherine murphy from goldman sacks your line is open please go ahead ask about the raised memory segment
outlook for 65 to 75 percent growth for how much of this is from increased favorable pricing versus demand for new product categories and as a follow-up how should we think about the impacts to the operating margin outlook for this segment and the investments that need to be made into new technologies like CXL and photonic memory appliances thank you very much Hey Kat, it's Nate.
So on the memory outlook, listen, we're really pleased with the demand that we're seeing as well as the favorability that we see in the pricing environment. I would say for the increase that we're seeing in the second half, that's majority pricing, but demand is also very strong across telco, networking, AI driven demand is just very In fact, you know, to get to the high end of that outlook really just refers to our ability to secure materials, which is really the only inhibitor we see right now to raising that outlook here in the second half. So we're chasing materials, we're using the balance sheet to strategically purchase ahead where we can, but the demand is very strong in memory. In terms of the investments, you know, we've reflected it in the outlook, so I've kept the OpEx for the year at 250 million plus or minus 5 million. We're balancing the portfolio as we always do to look for opportunities to accelerate our investments and innovation in AI or in the memory solutions that we've been talking But that's all included in the outlook. I expect the operating margins for memory to remain pretty healthy in the back half of the year. I do expect some pressure on gross margins in AI as we see a higher mix of new hardware shipments in the second half, as well as factoring in some of the higher memory input costs that we have in that business thank you very much Nate sorry your next line of Brian chin we're experiencing some mild technical difficulties my apologies
your next question comes from the line of Brian chin from stifle your line is open please go ahead great thank you for let us ask a few questions and good afternoon maybe first question I guess in advanced computing what change that caused you to lower the midpoint of your prior guidance to the new range you've communicated and can you describe how booked you are to that midpoint of that new range so um one of the main factor is the lag between our bookings and the revenue our revenue lags about three to six months
from the time of the bookings, and this is primarily driven by the timing of the deployments, in some cases, the material availability, and so on and so forth. And given where we are in terms of our fiscal year, we have five months remaining. So going forward, most of the bookings that we are expecting may not materialize into the revenue for the second half of this fiscal but we believe that it will have a positive impact obviously going into the uh the net first half of the next fiscal so that's one of the reasons that you know we are lowering lowering the guidance for advanced computing driven by the deployments but we are seeing strong momentum in our pipeline as well as bookings bookings grew very significantly in Q2 for non-hyperscale AIHPC business, which is very strategic for us and we are encouraged to see the progress. We closed five new logos with AIHPC in Q2 and in first half that takes a total to seven new logos as compared to three new logos last year. So we are very confident in our ability to execute The main issue at this point is timing.
Okay. Yeah, I appreciate that, Cash. And it sounds like you're pretty well booked into the fiscal second half, lowered outlook, and that some of these new bookings are more kind of beyond a six-month window. Also, thinking about, you know, growth in the business, obviously there's that sort of headwind that you helped to clarify in terms of reduction hardware revenue to the new hyperscaler, the wind down of Penguin Edge. And so, you know, 30 percentage point impact, if we kind of net that against the guidance, you know, maybe 10% growth for this year, net of that in that segment. So, moving forward, you know, as you survey the business and you haven't been in the role that long, and you think about what that sort of apples to apples growth rate was or is tracking to for this fiscal year, how are you thinking about sort of target growth rates for the advanced computing business moving forward?
So overall, let me give you a data point. So the first half of this fiscal, our net sales grew about 50% year-over-year for non-hyperscale AIHPC business, representing 40% of the overall mix of advanced computing, which is almost 2x of what we closed last fiscal. So the growth is substantial in terms of the bookings as well as the revenue that we see. And we expect that to continue and as we continue to close the bookings, converting the pipeline, we see strong pipeline across all three segments that I mentioned between enterprises, on-prem AI deployments, significant activity with sovereign AI customers, as well as new cloud customers.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Kalitri from Needham & Company. Please go ahead.
Matt Kalitri here from Needham. Thanks for taking our question. Do the new memory launches mark a shift in strategy on that front? Just curious, because in the past, the company has talked kind of more about the niche parts of the integrated memory business and noted it's early on things like the CXL front. But now it sounds like memory is expected to be a larger driver as part of this AI factory platform. So just wondering if anything has changed there, and what gives you confidence there's durable demand here?
Yeah, so it is a part of our strategy. The memory AI appliances that we launched about a month ago starting with GPC is a part of us investing more in our AI factory platform strategy. So there are six elements to this strategy and memory AI is one of the strategic elements where it is very timely if you look at how AI is transitioning from model training to inference. And in the workloads where you are, you know, focused on inference, memory becomes an increased requirement because of lower latency as well as larger contact sites for inference, powering the authentic AI. So this is very strategic for our business. In fact, we are leading the market in this area, taking advantage of our unique position at the intersection of memory and AI infrastructure. And combining the deep understanding and architecture, we introduced this Memory AI KVCache server as one of the products in the line of Memory AI. We are working on other products, and we will continue to invest, and in fact, invest more in this area to take advantage of the market opportunity because the timing is perfect and our leadership in the memory AI line of line of products to give you a proof point the one of the new logos we acquired tier one financial institution not only we are deploying the AI infrastructure AI factory deployment for them, they also purchased our CXL-based KVCache server, which is a proof point of as customers are transitioning from training and bringing AI on-premise in their factories, deploying on-premise, focusing on inference, and powering agent AI, it is very strategic for us, and the timing is just right. So we expect to see this demand, and we plan to continue to invest in this area.
Awesome. That's great to hear. And then, Nate, with a new CEO in the seat and some moving pieces around sales cycles and supply change, did you change the guidance philosophy at all or embed any additional conservatism? Any color on the puts it takes there would be helpful.
Yeah. Hey, Matt. No, no change in the philosophy. You know, we, Cash and I very quickly aligned, I think, on how we think about tracking the business and looking at things, and in fact, I think with our new CRO, which came in a couple quarters ago, he's done a nice job of adding some more rigor to the planning process in our AI business and just improving the visibility there a little bit. But it's a challenging environment from a supply chain standpoint, and we're, of course, got a lot of experience managing supply chain in our memory business, And I think that, you know, that's an advantage for us in an environment like this.
Awesome. Thank you guys so much. Thank you.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Sameek Chatterjee from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Hi. Thank you for taking my question. This is MP on behalf of Sameek Chatterjee. So my first question is I just want to double-click on your advanced computing guidance. you mentioned that a lag of three to six months for the revenue which you will book in your second half but was there a change observed for the for the bookings which you did in first quarter or any change in relative relative to what were you expecting to do in 2q and i have a follow-up as well yeah hey mp um you know i think bookings were strong in q2 really good growth sequentially end year over year I do think that the deployment cycle has lengthened a little bit with some of the supply constraints in particular on memory things have gotten a little bit longer but we're really
pleased with the five new logos and you know I think demand is good we're seeing good strength in the pipeline and it's also diversifying nicely across you know the non-hyperscale segments such as enterprise and neo cloud and sovereign so I think we feel really good about the demand i think this is just an issue of a little bit of timing as we you know can convert bookings into revenue okay and my second question would be also on advanced computing and your ai factory uh a factory related business like does nvidia coming up with their own reference designs for factory level solutions like how does that play relative to you like is that a tailwind for
you or is that a headwind for you like can you please help us we believe yeah we believe this is an advantage for us so we work very very closely with nvidia and some of the events that i mentioned for example the tier one financial institution recently along with you know our memory ai product in this transaction nvidia worked very closely with us and we are working with nvidia leveraging their reference design, combining that with our AI factory platform and complementing NVIDIA's NVI as an example to provide full stack to our customers. So their blueprints are more complementary to our AI factory platform and the components that make up for it. So we are actually quite excited about those blueprints and working very closely with NVIDIA to capture the opportunities, especially as NVIDIA is increasingly focused on enterprise, it aligns with our strategy and go-to-market. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Anadabaro from Loop Capital. Please go ahead.
Taking the question, good afternoon. A couple, if I could, and maybe Nate as well, earlier remarks were that you're seeing increased momentum across Neoclon Sovereign and Enterprise, and you mentioned one of the two of the new Do you have, and I think, Pat, you had mentioned, you've made some specific, or at least general inferencing remarks including around agentic do you have any specific context you can give us around what your customers are telling you their thrust in inferencing is right now and maybe the degree to which agentic is showing up there like we just wanted to get a sense of what the customer's activity tone is like behaviorally say over the net over the last 90 to 180 days do you have anything there you can share with us to make it a little bit more experiential for us and then i have a quick follow-up two things sure we believe uh we are early in the adoption of incense with these customers but it is increasingly deployed, as in customers, as they move towards agentic, inference provides the opportunity
for powering the agentic. And when you think about inference, I'll give you an example of why the architecture is changing and why memory is becoming increasingly critical in inference as compared to the model training. So, for example, let's say if you're writing a book, and if you have to write a new sentence without having the memory as a supporting component for you, you will have to re-read the entire book before writing the next sentence. So in the inference, you're doing an inference on a lot of data you already have, and if you have a component where the book you have written so far is stored, so before writing the new sentence you don't have to reread the book that's kind of how it is changing for the enterprises and other segments and we see customers already deploying it and the architecture is changing which is why not only we have the opportunity and advantage to provide them our AI infrastructure as well as the services increasingly we are seeing the demand for our memory AI portfolio, where if they are deploying AI infrastructure and increasingly inference, they need products like that to be able to provide that memory component for the inference so that the responses of LLMs can be much more faster than they would be otherwise.
I got it. That's helpful. And just one quick follow-up online for the time here, In case there's anybody behind me, the CXL products, it sounds like you, to the earlier question, it sounds like you guys are a little bit more enthusiastic about the CXL sleeve today than you were maybe 90 days ago. You have the new products out of GTC. Is that accurate statement that you're expecting? Maybe it's because of these new products a little bit more. And certainly some of the NVIDIA announcements of CES as well. But are you expecting a little bit more revenue a little bit sooner than maybe you were CXL-wise 90 days ago? And then a quick second part to that. Do you need photonics to work before you really get CXL amplification? Like, do you need CPO or photonics to work before you can really amplify CXL and scale out or scale up? Thanks. That's it for me.
Yeah. So let me address your CXL question first. I think CXL adoption is timely given the transition to inference. Because as I mentioned with inference, you mean increased memory for faster LLM responses. And what CXL provide compute express link is you can share the memory between for GPUs and CPUs. So what it allows is new memory pooling, which is an advantage in inference workloads. So while CXL was obviously available for the last XSU quarters, it is driving that inference adoption is driving the adoption for CXL and this transaction that I mentioned where we received an order. It's actually an enterprise generative AI company working on inference workload. So you can imagine CXL cards make sense for them because those workloads need increased memory. And the memory pooling capabilities provided by CXL between GPUs and CPUs are an advantage for those kind of customers. And then in terms of photonic memory appliance that we are working on in our partnership with Celestial AI, which is now obviously Marvell that provides increased capability because obviously when you have photonic connectivity then you have increased capacity to share the memory so it takes it to the next level however CXL in itself is an advantage we can take it to the next level with the photonic appliance there is another element which is KV cache that I mentioned memory AI KV cache server which is essentially providing much more responsiveness for larger context workloads, again, used in inference. So various requirements, you can think of it as, inference has various requirements related to memory and the type of workloads it has, and some of it is latency. So these components between CXL or the CXL-based KD cache, which provides increased responses and larger context sizes, and then taking it to the next level, photonic memory, make up various use cases for inference. So, inference gets mainstream. We will have an advantage of this fair portfolio helping with various use cases of inference.
That's great context. Cash, thanks so much. Thanks, Anand.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy from Rosenblatt. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Yes, thanks for squeezing me in. And just the gross margin for the memory, you know, your gross margin was up in the quarter and memory revenue was up strong. And I just want to understand that, what the dynamics were there.
Yeah, sure, Kevin. You know, we saw a little favorability in memory margin. Some of that is mixed, a little bit stronger demand than flash actually, which is a little bit higher margin product for us within the portfolio. And then also some of the pricing increases, we were able to capture a little bit of margin upside on that just based on the timing of our inventory purchases relative to the timing of, you know, shipments and sales to customers.
So, you kind of, as you look out to the second half of the year, you see that catching up the price increases I think compared to yeah so if the price increases slow right if that's an assumption that you use that price increases are going to slow then we would see we would expect to see less margin favorability from that because it'd be less of a timing difference between or less less of a more price variation between the timing between purchasing inventory and selling but you know we have been using the balance sheet to try to secure inventory where we can. It's a tight market, so it's not unlimited supply. But where we can, we're using the balance sheet to try to gain a little bit of an advantage.
Okay. And maybe just as we're talking about memory, as you get to these CXL systems, would you expect that's going to be a higher margin than the module business?
Yeah, we do. It's really a solution. It's got software aspects to it, some good differentiation on the hardware as well. So, I see that as a nice margin opportunity for us down the road.
Operator
At this time, there are no further questions. I will now hand the call over to Cash Shake, CEO, for closing remarks.
Thank you, operator. We see AI shifting toward inference with demand expanding beyond hyperscaler to enterprise, new cloud, and sovereign AI customers. We are still in early shift in this transition, but the combination of our customer demand, product innovation, and booking momentum gives us the confidence in the path ahead. We believe we are well positioned at the intersection of AI compute infrastructure and memory, and we are making good progress diversifying our customer base. My focus is on strong execution across product innovation, customer engagement, and diversification, disciplined capital allocation, and investment in our AI HPC business to support the long-term growth we look forward to updating you on our progress this concludes today's call thank you for attending you may now disconnect
