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Greetings. Welcome to the Ecolab's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants will be in listen-only mode. The question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone today should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero from your telephone keypad. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. At this time, it is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Andy Hedberg, Vice President of Investor Relations for Ecolab. Thank you, Andy. You may now begin.
Thank you and hello everyone. Welcome to Ecolab's third quarter conference call. With me today are Christophe Beck, Ecolab's Chairman and CEO, and Scott Kirkland, our CFO. The discussion of our results, along with the earnings release and the slides referencing the quarter's results, are available on Ecolab's website at ecolab.com slash investor. Please take a moment to read the cautionary statements in these materials, which states that this teleconference and the associated supplement materials include estimates of future performance. These are forward-looking statements and actual results could differ materially from those projected. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are described under the risk factors section in our most recent Form 10k and our poster materials. We also refer you to the supplemental polluted earnings per share information in the release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Christophe Beck for his comments.
Thank you, Andy, and welcome to everyone joining us today. And I'd like to start by recognizing the strength and the resilience of the Ecolab team, because in a year defined by persistent macro uncertainty that we've all lived through and shifting global dynamics our team continues to deliver consistent double-digit earnings growth and they focus on what matters most our customers our strategy and our long-term goals is what enables us to perform at a very high level quarter after quarter and we've seen that in the third quarter where sales growth improved fueled by extra rating pricing up to three percent from two percent last quarter while volumes increased one percent this momentum was driven by double-digit organic growth in our growth engines which is remarkable and which includes pest elimination, life sciences, global high-tech, and Ecolab digital. Our core business institutional specialty and the rest of global water delivered solid growth. All of this supported by exceptional total value delivery through best in class, breakthrough innovation, and discipline execution of our one Ecolab enterprise growth strategy. In total, our growth engines and core businesses represent about 85% of our total sales, and they delivered 4% organic sales growth and mid-teens organic operating income growth. The strong performance more than offset ongoing market softness in our underperforming businesses, basic industries, and paper, which together represent the remaining 50% of our global sales. And these two businesses declined 3% and had an impact of 1% each point of volume in the quarter. So let me briefly expand on each of these drivers before sharing how we're thinking about the remainder of the year and how we're positioned to deliver another strong year of double-digit EPS growth in 2026. The pricing accelerated to 3% this quarter, driven by the full implementation of our trade surcharge and continued value pricing that's working really well. As always, the total value we deliver to customers continue to outpace and by far our total pricing, as our technologies and services help to deliver enhanced business outcomes, operational performance, and environmental impact for our customers. Our breakthrough innovation is the strongest it's ever been, delivering significant value for customers and growth for Ecolab. In institutional and specialty, breakthrough innovations like the ones you've seen at Invest Today, like Dish IQ, Aqua IQ, and ReadyDose, are growing double digits as these solutions help our customers improve operational performance, optimize their scarce labor resources, and reduce total cost. In our task intelligence platform, we've now installed over 400,000 intelligent devices, formerly called mousetraps, on our way to deploying over 1 million devices. With this leading technology, we aim to deliver 99% test-free outcomes as we harness the power of our Ecolab 3D digital infrastructure and our expert service capabilities. Within Global Water, we recently launched 3D Tracer for direct-to-chip liquid cooling for next-generation AI data centers, which uniquely monitors and optimizes coolant performance in real time. And when combined with our full portfolio of data center cooling technologies, we're helping to reduce up to 10% of the power used to cool data centers, which can now be utilized for compute power. And this is just the beginning, as we build our leadership position in data center cooling and water circularity. And finally, within global life sciences, we've launched a series of cutting-edge drug purification resins for the bioprocessing industry, which drives the improved product quality and significant operational efficiencies for our customers. When Nicola focuses its breakthrough innovation on solving critical customer challenges like these, everyone wins. Juan Nicola is helping us unlock significant cross-sell opportunities across our customer base. In total, it represents a 65 billion gross opportunity with 3.5 billion of this sitting with our largest customers. And we're seeing early successes in businesses like institutional specialty and food and beverage that are growing very nicely. Talking about that, in institutional specialty, well, organic sales grew by 4%, outpacing in market trends. And this good performance is being fueled by the exceptional value we are delivering to customers, which we capture through value pricing and growth from Wernicola. With this, we're working to deliver best-in-class operating performance for customers as they utilize more of our breakthrough technologies across more of their locations. In food and beverage, growth continues to accelerate with organic sales up 4% this quarter, once again ahead of market trends. This strong acceleration is being driven by OneEcoLab, where we bring together our industry-leading cleaning and sanitizing, water treatment, and digital technologies. This comprehensive offering delivers significant customer values to improve food safety, low operating costs and optimized water usage, which was always our promise. And of course, our growth engine delivered another quarter of double digit sales growth. These businesses are gaining momentum and Ecolab is well positioned to capitalize on the strong secular tailwinds driving these markets. So let me unpack them one by one. Pest Elimination delivers 6% organic sales growth. And as mentioned earlier, the pest intelligence rollout is going extremely well. Our pest team has just won another very large retailer here in the U.S., which has thousands of locations which we will be deploying in the coming month. This innovation is transforming our pest elimination model as we shift from spending 95% of our time physically checking every device to 95% of our time solving critical customer problems and selling new solutions. Even with ongoing investment in pest intelligence, operating income margins improved to nearly 21%, driven by our strong sales growth and the leverage we're generating from pest intelligence. Life sciences sales growth also improved to 6%, led by double-digit growth in biopharma and pharma and personal care. This very strong performance overcame capacity constraints within our water purification business. Looking at the fourth quarter, we expect Life Sciences' year-on-year sales growth to moderate a little bit from third quarter's 6% growth as we compare against nearly 70% growth in our bioprocessing business last year, but underlying same trends. Despite the strong comparison, we expect bioprocessing to still grow double digits in the fourth quarter as we continue to gain share in this super attractive market global high tech continues to grow rapidly with sales up 25 we've built an incredible growth platform where we're uniquely positioned to serve the high growth data center and microelectronics industries and the pending acquisition of avivo electronics will more than double the size of ecolab's global high-tech business to nearly 900 million further strengthening this growth engine by bringing together for vivo's very unique ultra-pew water technologies with Ecolab's leading water solutions, digital technologies, and global service capabilities. The combined technology platform will enable Ecolab to expand our offerings to provide circular water solutions for microelectronics, helping to maximize cheap production and quality for this booming industry. Ecolab Digital maintains its strong momentum, delivering 25% sales growth this quarter. Ecolab Digital now has annualized sales of more than 380 million driven by rapid growth in subscription revenue and digital hardware. Overall digital is a 13 billion gross opportunity for Ecolab with 3 billion of this sitting within our existing customer base. So we remain focused on capturing this high margin opportunity as we leverage our leading digital technologies and monetize our large and expanding install base. We're not only leveraging AI to build new fast-growing capabilities in global high-tech and Ecolab digital, we're rapidly leveraging it in our own operations to dramatically improve our customer experience and enterprise performance. With this, I'm very proud to share that Ecolab has ranked number nine on the Fortune AIQ 50 list, recognizing the companies most prepared for the age of AI. Our global teams are quickly scaling AI to drive innovation, deliver customer impact to our best-in-class model, and deliver significant cost savings. Finally, we remain confident in our team's ability to get our two underperforming businesses, basic industries and paper, back to growth, and they're already making meaningful progress. We've shifted resources to support emerging opportunities like Empower and Precious Metals, where they're supporting AI-driven power build-outs. When markets still facing near-term demand headwinds, like paper, we're focusing on innovation that can draw significant operational savings for customers. We're also leveraging our OneEcolab growth strategy in these businesses to expand relationships with existing customers. These actions are working, as evidenced by our share gains and relative outperformance in these end markets, but we're not satisfied. While we expect these markets to remain soft in the near term, with actions well underway, we anticipate these businesses to return to growth during 2026. One of the greatest strengths of Ecolab for decades has been the breadth and diversity of our portfolio. While not every business delivers strong performance at all times, our diverse portfolio is the key reason Ecolab collectively delivers double-digit EPS growth in nearly any environment with our strong performance we drove 110 basis points increase in our organic operating income margin which reached a record 18.7 percent this quarter we continue to expect our operating income margin to expand at steady levels due to growth in high margin businesses value price share gains and productivity improvements reaching a strong 18 for the full year 25. Importantly, our margin expansion also includes significant and ongoing investments in our business. We continue to make these gross investments as they fuel high performance in the quarters and years ahead. As a result, we're increasing our 25 full-year adjusted daily TDPS midpoint to 7.53, with a range of 7.48 to 7.58. Beyond this year, we remain firmly on track to achieve a 20% OI margin by 27. And as mentioned during our investor day last month, we expect to continue our momentum with 100 to 150 basis points of annual OI margin expansion to 2030. This positions us extremely well to continue to deliver steady to up to 15% earnings growth in 26 and beyond. In closing, our third quarter results reflect the strength of our business and the power of our strategy. Our pricing discipline, breakthrough innovation, and running collab execution continue to drive share gains and margin expansion across our core business. Our growth engines are scaling rapidly and positioned to benefit from long-term secular tailwinds. All of this is enabling us to deliver consistent earnings growth even in a complex and complicated macro environment. With strong and resilient free cash flow and an extremely strong balance sheet, we're very well positioned to capitalize on both organic and inorganic growth opportunities to create significant value for our customers and drive attractive returns for our shareholders. I remain very confident in our ability to deliver sustained strong performance in Q4 this year and beyond. Thanks again for your continued trust and your investment in Ecolab. I'll loop forward to your questions.
Thanks, Christoph. That concludes our formal remarks. Operator, would you please begin the question and answer period?
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For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. we ask you please limit yourself to one question remember you follow up to a caller so others will have a chance to participate thank you and the first question is from the line of tim maroney with william blair please proceed with your question hi this is luke mcfadenon for tim thanks for taking our questions i wanted to ask about the global high-tech business we noticed the slides mentioned some recent market share wins and data centers could you talk a bit more about how you're achieving and measuring the gains here And I know you haven't closed the deal yet, but curious to hear any updated thoughts on the Ovivo acquisition and how you would characterize the growth opportunity in microelectronics post-deal close relative to your already strong performance in this end market today.
Hey, thank you, Luke. Love that field, as you know. So let me step back a bit because it's important. So for all of us to understand, so high-tech for us is a combination of data centers and microelectronic plants, many call it FABs, which at some point will be two businesses focused on different technologies, obviously. But for now, it's really so high-tech combining data centers and microelectronics. And it's a field that attracts most of the global investments, as we know. And we expect these global investments to continue to drive that growth trend, even though we don't expect it to be a straight line to heaven. There will be, obviously, some more difficult and some better times ahead. But generally, it's going to be the growth of our times. When we think about some of the facts, talking about metrics, Luke, so one data center opens in the world every one to two weeks. with an investment ranging from $500 million to $3 billion. And there are 10,000 data centers in the world today. So it's showing a strong base that's getting even bigger as we speak. On the other hand, you have one fab, one microelectronics plant that's opening up roughly every month or so with average investments in the billions. There are 500 FABs today and expected to be 100 more getting to 600 in the next 10 years. So we can see the pace at which those data centers and FABs are opening up and our objective is ultimately to be in and hopefully own each of them around the world. So the key thing is that all of this will require way more power and way more water, which is where our role comes into it. Because, as mentioned as well, by 2030, we expect that this industry, powering AI with fabs and data centers, will need the incremental power of the whole of India in the next four and the drinking water needs of the whole of the United States as well at the same time. Because data centers will need to be cooled and fabs require vast amounts of ultra-peer water. And the cool news is that those are technologies that we master. We've been mastering for a very long time. Nobody understands water better than Ecolab. We've been in the cooling business for a very long time, and we've been in the water business, obviously, for a very long time as well. So we're building offerings that are helping data centers to be cooled in a more efficient way by reducing the amount of water and moving towards direct-to-cheap technologies. That helps cooling faster. This means more compute power, and this means less power for cooling and more power for compute, which is exactly what the tech industry is looking for. On the other hand, we're providing circular water solutions for microelectronics manufacturers because one fab requires roughly the drinking water needs of 17 million people and the pace at which it's being built. Well, that's not going to work for the communities, obviously. So the tech industry is the famous ones, especially in Asia, but in the U.S. as well. We are looking for solutions to reuse and recycle water. But here's the key point, that water that's being used in those baths needs to be ultra-pure water, which means roughly a thousand times more pure than the water that you would use in drugs that you inject in your bloodstream. which is exactly what OVIVO is doing. So by bringing what Ecolab has always done in water circularity, plus the capabilities of OVIVO in ultra-pew water, we have microelectronics. Ultimately, we use and recycle water at ultra-pew water level. So at the end, 26 for global high-tech, assuming we close obviously on OVIVO, will be roughly a 900 million business growing double digits with very strong margins. And it's important to keep in mind that for us, it's a new step, a further step on our high-tech journey and one that will change over time the growth profile of our company. So a very good new chapter for our company.
Our next question comes from the line of Ashish Sabhadra with RBC Capital Markets. Please receive your question.
Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to focus on the basic industries and paper returning back to growth in 2026. I was wondering if you could drill down further on the shifting resources, innovation, as well as share gains, how that can help offset some of the end market weakness.
Thank you, Ashish. I really like the underlying performance of that business. It's a good margin business, just that you know as well, it's slightly below our company the average but it's still a good business, good margin and good underlying performance. The biggest issue we have in that industry is it's consolidating which means that they are closing mills and mills are very big and those mills obviously when they close are impacting our growth and there's not much we can do. We lose very little to competition, we gain share in the existing and new mills. But when a mill is closing, well, we lose those sales. And that's what's happened over the last 18 months. We see that process of consolidation slowing down. We see our underlying performance driven by what you were saying, innovation improving as well. And I think the combination of both ultimately so will be positive for paper so I think that we are reaching the bottom of that cycle in paper and I think in the next I don't know one two three quarters paper is gonna get back to a growth trajectory and the sooner the better obviously and on the basic industries. We have regrouped our resources, we're driving critical mass as well, driving efficiencies, but it's really making sure that we capture as much market share as we can right now, as the market recovers as well and similar to paper but for different reasons. We see as well kind of the bottom come in the next couple of quarters, and then we should get back to a good place. So in both businesses here, 50% of our company, we need to keep that in mind. And there will always be a few businesses that are having subpar performance, like the underlying performance. The market trends have been hard in the past. This is changing. So that's why I'm quite optimistic. We would like where those two businesses are going to go. But at the end of the day, let's keep in mind that 85% of the company is growing very well with mid-teams operating income growth, so in a very healthy place.
Our next question comes from the line of John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets. Please receive your question.
Yeah, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my question, Christophe. So I had a question on pricing. I guess if you can take the tariff surcharge out of the equation, I guess, would you would you say the pricing is getting easier to push through just because the value proposition is becoming more evident? Or would you say it or would you characterize it as maybe getting tougher just because there there may be price fatigue, you know, inflation is maybe moderating a little bit, I guess. How would you characterize it?
Thank you, John. I would say the same. You thought to put the metric obviously on that. But generally, the fact that pricing is getting stronger, our total value delivered, by the way, is getting much stronger, too. And we're always trying to get two to three times, sorry, more total value delivered than pricing that's being captured. So it's a good deal for customers. I feel that we're in a pretty good place. and our retention is very high in the 90s as you know and it's remaining very stable as well at the same time. So a good story of customer for life with good retention, sharing the savings that they get in their operations that translates into value pricing and you're right on top of it so the tariff surcharge or trade surcharge as we called it is helping as well but that's why I feel that the 2% to 3% value price for the long run seems to be the sweet spot of our company.
Next question is from the line of Andrew Whitman with Baird. Please receive your question.
Great, thanks. I had two questions, I guess, Christoph. I was just talking about the water business as well here. You discussed the top line impacts, the quarter, very detailed. I'm just wondering if you could just help us understand a little bit about how that top line is affecting that segment's margin performance. Maybe if you could bifurcate that as well. And then just quickly, a quick kind of a technical question here. You mentioned a large new pest customer. I was just wondering, was that referenced into an entirely new customer that is not a customer today? Or were you saying that's just a conversion to the new technology?
Thank you, Andy. So two different questions, obviously. I think the easiest way to talk about water, top line and margin. If you exclude basic industries and paper, which I know is a bit of a challenging accounting approach here to make sure I remain in gap. But generally, water would be having a 4% top line growth and a 15% operating income growth, excluding So it's pretty clear where our work is focused on, and that's why we're focusing on these two businesses to make sure that we enjoy all the good side of the water business that we really love and that keeps getting better. Now, on the first question, so we never mentioned which customer that is, just to respect, obviously, their own confidentiality, but it's a new one, which has been really interested by that new technology. The fact that we focused early on on the biggest out there helps, obviously, so everyone else see that it's good. The leading companies are embarking on that journey and that it's really working. So that's going to be, I think, helping us for the future as well, because the more of those great retailers we have on board, the more others will join as well. It's an ideal proposition for them, 99%, so that's free, a good deal for their own operations. It's good for us. It's exactly the model that we want to build in the future. We're early on that journey, as mentioned, so 400,000 saw devices today, but we will be at the million first half of next year. So it's showing how quick we're moving here, and we're clearly leading the industry, which is helping customers come to us.
Our next question is from the line of Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you. Good afternoon. Christoph, if I could ask you for an update on OneEcolab, in particular, I know the focus initially was the top 35 customers. So as we get to year-end 2025, where will you be in terms of sort of the work you wanted to do with that top 35? And as we get to 26, will you be rolling it out more aggressively to the next 25 or 50 or what have you? Or how should we think about the layering in of incremental One Ecolab efforts from 25 to 26?
Thank you, Vincent. So the way we approached it, and I don't remember how public I was with it. So we launched One Ecolab a year plus ago, as you remember, mid of last year. And we said, so we will start with three customers in three major industries of the company to move towards the, we called it internally, the Mach 7. They're not exactly the same as the ones you would have in mind, but some are obviously so in 25. And then to move towards the top 20 E15 in 2026 to really make sure we can demonstrate that customer of the customer and learn as an organization as well without boiling the ocean. It's progressing very well. Customers are very receptive. And the best example is really some food and beverage united where we brought hygiene and water together. in North America, which you see the results in food and beverage, so how the growth trends have shifted towards higher growth. It's exactly driven by OneEcoLab, focused on some of those critical customers. It's where the whole idea came from when we acquired Nalco, by the way, in 2011. So it's an old idea that's coming to life, very well received by customers, working in terms of grows and we will expand as we move forward in 2026.
The next question is in the line of Patrick Cunningham with Citigroup. Please just use your question.
Hi, good afternoon. You know, I think, you know, how should we think about SG&A leverage, you know, particularly in pest and life sciences next year as you start to lab some of the growth investments you've made across both businesses? Is it a relatively linear path to your 2027 targets, or is there sort of a continued step up in growth investments embedded next year?
Thank you, Patrick. So Scott was looking for a question, so this is a perfect segue, and I would suggest we start this year in general as well, and then so focusing on these two.
Yeah. Thanks, Patrick. As we've talked about, SG&A productivity has been a great story over the last several less since 2019. Our SGA leverage has improved 150 basis points, and we're expecting to improve another 20 to 30 basis points this year for full year 2025. As we talked about at Investor Day beyond 2025, with the benefit of the OneEcolab savings that we're driving and net of investments, we'll continue to invest in the business. And that leverage, I expect it to be pretty broad-based. Certainly, we're investing in the growth businesses, the growth engines, but expect going forward to deliver 25 to 50 basis points of SG&A leverage, benefiting from the OneEcolab program and the technology we're deploying.
And what I really love on that whole journey, it's not becoming cheap and saving money for left and right. It's leveraging digital technology agents. We have many now in our organization. That's why being recognized as one of the leading AI companies in the world was really cool news. So for us, it's really leveraging technology to do more with less. And we are still early on that journey. So I think it's going to keep getting better. So really good work here that's feeding ultimately the growth story that we want to capture.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Manav Patniak with Barclays.
Thank you. Good afternoon, Christophe. I just had a question. You know, the 85% of your business core, I guess, that you said was growing 4%. Assuming the macro stay the same, I guess, you know, it sounds like it's the growth engines that could take that higher. And so I'm just trying to understand from your perspective, how long do you think before that mix is big enough to start moving the needle? Because you've obviously delivered well on the margins and EPS, and I think we're all looking to see if revenue growth can be better.
That's a great question. As I was sharing with the team, the beauty of the company is our broad exposure to end markets, which means that we won't have all end markets in the red at the same time, which means that we won't have all end markets in the green at the same time as well. So focusing on this 15% a little bit of our time to make sure that those ones are becoming less of a drag and ultimately a positive driver. But when we look at these 85 percent, growing 4 percent in mid-teens, the growth engines are growing 12 percent and even more on our breaking income, which is a very good story. Avivo is going to add to it, as mentioned earlier, obviously. So high-tech is going to get bigger. Since that growth of growth engines is growing double-digit, obviously the mix is going to shift towards them. over time. And I think that in the next few years, gross engines are going to become a really irrelevant part of our company. It's roughly 20% today, $3 billion. I would not be surprised if it becomes 30% to 40% in a few years down the road.
The next question is from the line of David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank. Let's receive your question.
Thank you.
Christoph, on the price surcharge how much did you realize and with that surcharge now fully in place should we think about this three percent pricing continuing for the next perhaps uh two three quarters thank you you know it's it's hard to know exactly because some businesses uh like institutional for instance have decided to bring uh and that was the same in 22 so nothing is so too heavy directly so within the structural price um so we don't have a perfect tracking of that and honestly i don't really care because anyway uh also converging towards structural price um so with the surcharge we we closer to three um obviously that's why i'm saying two to three um is uh is the sweet spot and since we round uh those numbers sometimes you might be rounding down to two and sometimes to three. But I feel pretty good with where we are now. Our objective is to stay closer to three, but it depends what's happening with the tariffs as well. We're looking as well as what's happening with China this week. We will know that in the next few days as well. The good news is that we know exactly how to manage that if we need to, and it leads to very good margin performance. So, for me, 223 is the sweet spot, and our objective is to be as close to three as we can.
The next question is from the line of Chris Parkinson with Wolf Research. Pleased to see if you have a question.
Thank you so much. Could we just dig in a little bit more into the life sciences segment? Understanding it's been, you know, volatile over the last few years, however, it seems like there's a decent recovery, you know, impending in bioprocessing and pharma, so So, if we could hit on the top line first, that would be helpful. And then if we could move into just the capacity additions, where we stand there, and your ultimate progress towards 27 goals and how you feel about them. Thank you so much.
Thank you, Chris. It's a business and industry that I love. And as hard as it's been the last few years, I would do it again, and we would love where this business is heading. A great team focused exactly on the right innovations that the pharma industry is looking for to produce faster, high-quality, lower-cost drugs at a lower environment that impacts are really converging with an Ecolab model. When I look at the three elements that you mentioned, so top-line, capacity, and margins, let me take them one by one. So the top line, we've been growing so low to mid-signal the last few years. That was less than what we had planned for when we acquired Pure Light. Well, that was during a time where the market went down and most of our competitors went down in terms of growth. Doesn't make it great for us, but at least it's adding some perspective. When I look at the growth trajectory that we have now, it's clearly accelerating. mentioned this Q4 is going to be a bit softer because it compares to a huge growth in Q4 last year. But underlying, it's clearly accelerating. The new business is very strong. We're getting more commercial drugs as well. So in our pipeline, which makes a big difference, obviously. And the team keeps getting stronger and better as well. We're one of the only few companies having as well capacities in various places around the world that adds to the resilience as well to it and we add the whole water component and environmental hygiene that the other ones do not as well so top line finally so getting from good to much better and it's going to keep accelerating with one caveat is this capacity challenge that we have in our purification business just because we have max capacity of what we can manufacture, but our plant in China in mid-2026 is going to open and is going to enable us to unleash that growth in that part as well of the business, which is going to be great for the local market and as well for some international markets. And last point on the margin, as we shared as well at Invest Today, we are kind of in this mid-teens today, but underlying it's more mid-20s because of the investments that we are making in that business as we build that franchise. So from the mid-20s to the 30s, we see a clear path, but our focus is really to drive growth in that phase of the investment and then sort of drive margins once we get enough growth that we can leverage the critical mass that we've built.
Our next question is from the line of John Roberts with Mizzouho Securities. Please receive your question.
Thank you. In hospitality, you use a metric called seats in the seats. Could you give us an update on that? It seems like we have a lot of mixed trends going on in the full-service restaurant market.
Thank you, John. So I'm using the terms of food traffic for our business here. As you know, it's been very different versus than 2019. So before COVID, people going and sitting in a restaurant are down 30% versus 2019, and that hasn't changed. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how we want to look at it, a third of the people are just going for takeaway, for delivery, or for drive-thru, the famous 3D. so we see a stabilization of the food traffic which is kind of a good news but we've gotten used to that new model and ultimately with all the digital solutions that we have offered to that industry to manage this different way of selling products with less people as well it's been a very good story because we could grow very nicely because what we did was even more important to the hospitality industry and it was sold at a higher margin as well so less volume better margins very good growth and I think for us it's been exactly what what we needed and it's made institutional or the hospitality business even much better than what it used to be and you can see it in the margin that's north of 20 uh today and it's going to keep moving up with very nice top line roles as well. So, so far so good. And the last point I'd say as well is our specialty business is doing extremely well, doing even better than full service restaurants. So the QSR, the fast food businesses growing in the high single. It's a very good story as well there, which helps us capture wherever people go, depending on the economic times that we're facing. So overall, net-net, a very good story and a very new market.
The next question is from the line of Jeff Tsakowskis with J.P. Morgan. Please receive your question.
Thanks very much. In the water business this quarter, did volume grow? and in basic industries and paper, was volume growth negative high single digits, and did that represent a deceleration from the numbers you had experienced in the previous quarter?
So, thank you, Jeff. We, as you know, so we don't disclose volumes by business for obvious reasons. But as mentioned, so every segment had positive growth that we reported. So that's a good news. So there was no segment that was going down. And for me, it's really important that all businesses maintain positive growth, whether you're in high tech, where it's much more obvious because the flow of the river is very strong, or you're in more challenged businesses like hospitality, as we talked about before, and still there. So our teams are doing really well. So water was positive with that perspective, obviously. Vapor within water was not, and it's in the low to mid single, but it's improving. So that's why I feel quite optimistic with the next few quarters, with our so-called underperforming businesses of paper and basic industries. They're not where they should be. They do exactly the right thing. So the underlying performance of underperforming businesses is strong. Markets are not. But net, net, we're going to get to a good place in the next few quarters. So we're doing all the right things here.
The next question is from the line of Matthew DeVoy with Bank of America. Good to see if you have a question.
Thank you.
I guess to follow up on Vincent's question earlier on cross-selling in one Ecolab, do you have any idea how much that contributed to organic growth in the quarter or an expectation you can kind of give us for this year as it relates to just overall revenue generation? well uh matt it's it's very good uh actually so we are corporate account as we call it a driven organization enterprise customers uh to use a different term as well um and uh the top 20 e15 focus is contributing um over average uh to the growth of the company um so this is exactly the right place to focus. It's always been true as a company, but to get the whole one Ecolab within an enterprise is harder to make it work very well. And that's why we've chosen to go with all our innovation, all our technology, bringing one Ecolab digital services together to work with Mach 7, as mentioned before, then the T20, E15, so the top 20 customers, and emerging 15, so for next year as well. But they're doing better than the average of the company as well. So it's clearly a strategy that's working. And as we expand the focus beyond those 35 customers, it's going to help drive as well better performance for the overall company at higher margin because it's helping customers drive even more efficiencies within their own operations and the best example is Food and Beverage United as we call it so within our own company where we brought hygiene and water together and you can see the performance of food and beverage has been remarkable in the third quarter and it's going to keep getting better it's only North America that we've done it by the way and it's a very global business serving global customers with global quality standards as you would imagine and this one is going really well it's a great team with great customer feedback also because no one else can do it as well which is a great way for us to strengthen our mode so generally this one ecolab approach our enterprise customers is really working and it's going to be a growth driver for the years to come.
The next question is from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Research Partners. Please receive your questions.
Hi, good afternoon. Christoph, just kind of following up on what you were just talking about with food and beverage, the performance this quarter was, I think, the best organic growth that you've shown in several quarters. You mentioned that there is some momentum from OneEcolab and from pricing, but I was hoping you could help us understand a little bit more about what's going on with underlying market dynamics that you're seeing there. And to the extent that you are winning your business, is that mostly share of wallets and OneEcolab opportunities with existing customers? Or are you seeing some new wins in that business in food and beverage as well?
Good question, Mike. 4% organic growth in food and beverage is strong, so for sure. It's much better than the market. Consumer goods are not exactly growing fast. When you look at the companies out there, all the famous names out there are closer to flat than to mid single type of growth. So really pleased with the performance that we're driving and we're doing it while increasing our margins as well at the same time. So it's almost a perfect play what's happening in food and beverage here with this unification of hygiene and water. And again, it's only North America that we've done it so far, which is less than half our global business, but showing how well it's working, that whole approach. And to your point on the shelf wallet and white spaces, it's a combination of both. We're getting, gaining definitely some new customers, new plants as well within existing customers as well, because by bringing water and hygiene together, we help them not only produce higher quality, safer food, but reduce a lot of costs as well at the same time. So in a slow growth industry, that's exactly what they're looking for. So what we're doing for them is exactly what they're expecting. But at the same time, we're adding digital technology that we monetize, charge for, using a different term. And we get as well the value share. So our share of the savings we're generating for them in terms of value pricing that's also incremental so it's a combination of white spaces and uh share gains overall an awesome story for probably one of our best global businesses that we have questions in the line of Lawrence Alexander with Jeffries please see your question good afternoon um looks like your operating results are running I mean your organic growth is running pretty much in line or better than what you thought earlier in the year.
FX looks like it's basically double the tailwind of what it was last year. Can you talk a little bit about the gives and takes and what levers you have to pull if currency moves the other way next year?
Yeah, good question, Lawrence.
Let me pass it to uh scott because it's an fx uh dpc question yeah thanks lawrence um hey as we've talked about the underlying performance remains really strong um so even with fx i mean the underlying eps is you know why it's growing double digits and if you think about just in q3 itself while fx is in line with what we expected and as we guided you also have the the impact of the year-over-year sgna comp that is that is offsetting that fx in benefit of the non-operating so that underlying growth is really very strong. We previewed the year-over-year comp on SG&A during the Q2 call and expect our Q4 performance to continue as the SG&A normalizes, but we also are seeing commodity costs growing low to mid-single digits and overcoming that as well.
The next question is in the line of Jason Haas with Wells Fargo. Pleased to see with your question.
Hey, good Good afternoon, thanks for taking my question. I'm curious if you could talk about the PES business, if you've seen any increasing costs for leads or any increased competition in that space recently.
If I understood well your question on PES, Jason, so the DSGNA end versus competition, is it what you asked? Sorry, just to be more clear, I'm asking if the customer acquisition costs have gone up at all if you've seen any any step up in competition uh from from one of the major players out there thanks customer acquisition cost okay wanted to make sure so i got it right um yeah jason um actually it's it's become easier um because and we early on that journey as mentioned so we got um one major retailer um in uh in the us we're getting the second um as we speak we wanted to do it large customer by large customer it's not the geographic play the customer play because ultimately one brand wants to be safe and not have any issue in social media or whatever really to concentrate on guest satisfaction and quality of the experience and the food obviously here. But what we offer here with all the digital technology, all the AI that we've developed within the company for many years now, well, is serving the needs of our pet intelligence business. No one else can provide as much technology as we can and have such a backbone like Ecolab 3D as well at the same time. So it's a leading offering, it's ahead of the competition, customers are very open to it and what I really like as well with it is that the whole industry even if not moving all at the same pace is trying to add value to customers and get paid for it um as well at the same time so very healthy competition um and it's a good thing for customers and for the guests or the ultimate consumers or visiting whatever those locations are ultimately and in terms of operating costs well when 95 percent of your time was spent in the past um you're checking devices that were empty and you spend five percent of your time doing it tomorrow within your system, your operating costs are getting better, and you can spend much more time acquiring new customers and serving them even better, which is why our margins is improving as well at the same time. I love that business. It's going to keep on a strong base of performance right now. It's going to keep improving as we move forward, and margins is margin is going to improve as well. But I want to make sure that we keep investing as well in there because until we are 100% with the best intelligence model around the world, well, we will not slow down our investments that has a little impact on the operating margin. But it's still improving, as you could see, since we know it's up 20% now.
Our next question is from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please proceed to your question.
Yeah, hi. Good afternoon. I wanted to ask from a general context, you talked about 26, confident in the low to mid-teens EPS growth. I think around this time a year ago, you made comments around you don't really need strong volumes to get there. You're really confident in the price cost equation. I guess when you sit here today and look at a year, do you feel the same way that you can kind of get there with zero to 1% volumes? And if you start to see an acceleration, that's upside, or would you frame it differently?
I see exactly the same way. The way that you described it was the only caveat. We don't know how the environment is going to be in 26. We had some very firm plans for 25 with very strong FX headwinds and delivered product costs that would be really helping. well it was exactly the other way around that it happened in 2025 and still we delivered what we had promised in terms of top line but most importantly in terms of bottom line so when I think about 26 for me it's going to be a strong year very similar to 25 with three to four percent top line, positive volume, 2 to 3 price to drive this 12 to 15% EPS, and at least 100 basis points in terms of operating income margins to get to 19 plus, which is bringing us closer to the 20% that we committed to for 27. Effects are going to be ahead. Inflation might be a little bit of a headwind in 26 and everything else that we don't know, but I feel really good on that trajectory. And to your point, if things improve, if our end markets are even more open to what we do, well, that's going to be outside. That's why I feel really good with where we're heading in in 2026, one more time, like it's been in the past few years.
Our final question is from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please receive your question.
Hi, this is Matt Hatweron for Kevin McCarthy. Thanks for all the color on data centers that you gave earlier. Just following up on that conversation, I wanted to get your thoughts on how Ecolab is positioned with regards to next generation cooling technologies, such as directed chip cooling, do you have everything you need to compete and win there, or should we expect additional bolt-on deals in that arena?
Thank you. Love that question, Matt. No one has everything they need for direct-to-cheap cooling. This is leading-edge OBG technology. It's 5% of the data centers. Those are the newest. But interestingly enough, when you say direct-to-cheap cooling, liquid cooling, this is fluid management. This is exactly what we've done for a very long time. So managing fluids in a bunch of different industries, obviously. So in a way, it's coming closer to our own mastery of science and technology. So when I think directed chip cooling, well, we've talked about our cooling distribution unit that we call Coolant Intelligence Unit because they integrate 3D Trasor technology that we've been obviously developing for many, many years. So we have that technology in the middle of a data center integrating 3D Trasor. We've developed as well a connected coolant, so the liquid itself, so to make sure that you have the best thermal performance to cool the chips as well. We have coolant monitoring systems as well to make sure that you don't have leaks, you don't have fouling, you don't have anything bad that's happening as well to maximize as well the performance of the data center. and you have everything else that's going up the chain in chillers and towers on the roof. The latest data centers that we're serving have no cooling towers on the roof and have no water in there as well. So we have many pieces that we need and we're developing and exploring the new pieces that we will need as well in the future. And that's why I think we're just at the beginning of that journey. But that's a field that's exactly what Ecolab should be focused on. We should become the owner of cooling technology for data centers in the world. And that's refocusing all our efforts, all our resources, and all our investments as well in global high tech. And above it, we do similar, obviously, with microelectronics. Different technology, as mentioned before, it's reduced and recycled of ultra-pew water, and that's where Avivo is playing exactly in that field. So it's really serving our dual strategy in high-tech to be the owner of circular water at ultra-pew water standards in microelectronics and cooling technologies in data centers. And that's why I'm so bullish about what we've done, where we are today, but most importantly, where we're going. And that's why I'm saying it's going to change over time the growth profile of this company because it's a huge growth wave and we're very well positioned on that wave. So we like where we are. The competitive set is strong out there, but no one understands cooling and water better than we do. So I would clearly bet on the Ecolab team.
Thank you. At this time, we've reached the end of our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to management for closing comments.
Thank you. That wraps up our third quarter conference call. This conference call and the associated discussion slides will be available through replay on our website. Thank you for your time and participation. I hope everyone has a great rest of your day.
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