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Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA
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$265M – $305M | Non-GAAP | |
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$830M – $870M | Non-GAAP | |
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$2.92 – $3.14 | Non-GAAP |
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Good morning, and welcome to the third quarter 2025 Ernie's Call for FMC Corporation. This event is being recorded, and all participants are in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key, followed by zero. After today's prepared remarks, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To be placed in the Q&A, please press the star key, then one at any time. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your headset before pressing the keys. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Kurt Brooks, Director of Investor Relations for FMC Corporation. Please go ahead.
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to FMC Corporation's third quarter earnings call. Joining me are Pierre Brondeau, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Andrew Standifer, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today Pierre will provide an overview of our third quarter performance as well as an outlook for the fourth quarter. Andrew will provide an overview of select financial results. After our prepared remarks we will take questions. Our earnings release and today's slide presentation are available on our website and the prepared remarks from today's discussion will be made available after the call. Let me remind you that today's presentation and discussion will include forward-looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties concerning specific factors including but not limited to those factors identified in our earnings release and in our filings with the securities and exchange commission information presented represents our best judgment based on today's understanding actual results may vary based on these risks and uncertainties today's discussion and the supporting materials will include references to adjusted eps adjusted ebitda free cash flow organic revenue growth and revenue excluding India, all of which are non-GAAP financial measures. Please note that as used in today's discussion, earnings means adjusted earnings and EBITDA means adjusted EBITDA. A reconciliation and definition of these terms, as well as other non-GAAP financial terms to which we may refer during today's conference call, are provided on our website. With that, I will now turn the call over to Pierre.
Thanks, Kurt, and good morning everyone. Before we get into the details of our third quarter results, I want to acknowledge that our sales this quarter were below our expectation. Two factors led to these results. The first is constrained credit for our customers in Brazil and Argentina as a result of low liquidity. The second is pricing pressure from generics mainly in Latin America. These issues became apparent as we neared the end of the quarter and as the planting season was getting underway in Latin America. We expect both dynamics to persist in the fourth quarter. Consequently, we're accelerating planned cost actions similar to what we did with the next appear in order to keep a less differentiated core portfolio product competitive. Our belief remains that being a pure play agricultural sciences company is the right focus and we have a strong pipeline of innovative technologies to support that. Slides three through five provide details on a third quarter performance. We reported third quarter gap net sales of $542 million, which is 49% lower than prior year. The vast majority of the year-over-year decline is attributed to significant one-time actions taken in India to better position the commercial business for sale. During our last earning calls, I shared that we are not operating a business in India differently, following the designation of that country's commercial business as held for sale. We've also discussed elevated inventory in the India channel many times. Over the course of the third quarter, we made the decision to take back a substantial amount of channel inventory in the form of returns. To further clear inventory from the channel, we offered pricing credits to distributors, encouraging faster movement of products. These actions are intended to support the sale over India commercial business. The process is moving forward smoothly with strong interest and a high volume of inbound inquiries. Excluding India from current and prior sales, third quarter revenue of $961 million, down 4% year-on-year on a like-for-like basis. This was driven by a 6% price decline, half from adjustment in certain cost-plus contracts with specific diamide partners, and has from intensified competition in the market. Despite increased competitiveness, volume grew 2%. The company's growth portfolio increased by mid-single-digit percent, with sales of new active ingredients nearly doubling versus prior year. This is evidence of the strong demand for this technology. We remain confident in reaching a target of $250 million of new active ingredient sales by the end of the year. Overall, sales were below our expectation. Much of the shortfall was driven by Latin America, where our sales lagged prior year by 8%. The market landscape in that region is more challenging than we expected due to the two factors I touched on earlier. Low liquidity leading to constraint credit for our customers in Brazil and Argentina, and pressure from generics. About half of our sales shortfall in Latin America was driven by an unwillingness on our part to sell full volumes to customers with credit risk. The other half was due to lost sales, mainly to mega-farmers, where we were not willing to lower price to levels offered by generics for off-patent products. Generics have always been active in this region, but their impact is increasing in large part because of the favorable registration environments. For example, product registration in the EU or the U.S. can cost upwards of $1 million, whereas in Brazil, the cost of registration is approximately $70,000. This, in combination with recent regulatory registration, make it faster and cheaper for generics to obtain registration. On a positive note, our decision to invest in an additional route to market in Brazil to serve large soybean and corn growers is proving to be worthwhile. Sales are still ramping up, but we're seeing good results with over 300 new customers invoiced to date. The other regions performed more in line with expectation. While not as intense as Latin America, we did observe generic pressure in Asia and to a lesser extent, North America and EMEA. Sales improved in North America and EMEA driven by higher volumes, including contribution from the recent launch of Isoflex Active in Great Britain. We reported adjusted EBITDA of $236 million, with EBITDA margin of approximately 25%. Adjusted EBITDA was 17% higher than the prior year on an as-reported basis, and 23% higher than prior year on the life-for-life basis adjusting for India. The $6 million above the midpoint of the GANs, a strong EBITDA performance reflects discipline cost control and a focused approach to pricing that prioritizes margin and create quality. The year-over-year improvement was driven mainly by cost of goods sold, including lower of materials, improved fixed-cost absorption, and restructuring benefits. EBITDA also benefited from higher volumes and a favorable product mix as a new product saw greater demand. This was partially offset by lower price and an FX headwind. adjusted earnings per share was 89 cents up 30 percent from prior year and just above the mid point of our gallons the year over year improvement was driven by higher adjusted EBITDA slides six and seven provide detail on our outlook for the remainder of the year we're anticipating the condition we observe we observed in the third quarter to continue in the fourth quarter. We're now expecting fourth quarter sale, excluding India, to be in the $1.12 billion to $1.22 billion. On a like-for-like basis, that represents a 2% increase at the midpoint after adjusting for India. We're expecting higher volume to be driven by the growth portfolio fourth quarter price is expected to be a mid to high single digit headwind due to competitive pricing as well as the impact of cost plus contract to diamide partners fx is expected to be a low single digit tailwind 4th quarter adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the $265 million to $305 million, a decline of 16% at the midpoint on an as-reported basis and a decline of 7% on a like-for-like basis. Lower cost, higher volume, and minor FX tailwind are expected to be more than offset by lower price. Adjusted EPS is forecasted to be $1.40 to $1.36, a decline of 30% at the midpoint due to a lower EBITDA and abnormally low tax rate in the prior year. We are adjusting full-year guidance to include third-quarter results and updated fourth-quarter guidance. Revenue is now expected to be between $3.92 billion and $4.02 billion. Full-year adjusted EBITDA is now expected to be $830 million to $870 million, with the reduction to private gallons, mainly due to lower sales. Adjusted EPS is now forecasted to be $2.92 to $3.14. As a reminder, these gallons ranges include contribution from the India business for the first half only. Free cash flow gallons has been lowered to a range of negative $200 million to $0 driven by lower cash from operations. The reduction in gallons reflects the increased pricing pressure we are facing in our core portfolio. To address this issue, we are taking cost action to improve the competitiveness of patenting regions. When I returned as CEO, my focus was on completing several transformation initiatives. These included correcting SMC inventory in the channel to align with customer target levels, implementing a post-patent strategy for a next appear, establishing an additional route to market in Brazil, ensuring the right resources were in place for a growth portfolio to deliver its full potential and initiating the sales of the India business. With those initiatives now complete, we are continuing to evaluate business to ensure alignment with the strategic priorities and long-term objectives. Over the last two years, we've removed about $250 million in cost from the business to navigate the challenges of de-stocking and adjust Renexapear costs to prepare for its off-patent lifecycle. We now need to apply that same discipline across a core portfolio, particularly for a non-differentiated product where we're competing directly on price. We are taking two key actions. First, we have initiated a strategic review of a manufacturing footprint. Our intent is to exit active ingredients and formulation plants as well as other sources that are too expensive to operate and transition that production to lower cost sources. This is a major undertaking. We've already begun the work to identify and develop those alternative sources and we expect a plan to be full in place by the end of 2026. Earlier this month, we moved production of two active ingredients from one of our facilities to other manufacturing locations where lower cost will strengthen FMC's ability to compete in this post-patent market. Second, we are implementing a broader cost reduction plan across Asia to account for a reduced size of the business following the India sell. Our objective is straightforward, become a cost-competitive company capable of competing with generic or less differentiated product in the region, while also growing a portfolio of IP-protected products that command higher margins. By 2028, we expect to have four new active ingredients in commercialization alongside of growing family of biological products. Some are already launched in select markets, such as Isoflex Active and Fluent Appear, which are tracking in line with expectations. We continue to strongly believe in the power of a new product pipeline. In a world with more generic product and increasing resistance, new active ingredients will become even more of a true differentiator for FMC. I'll now turn the call over to Andrew to provide more detail on India results for the quarter and on the cash outlook.
Thanks Pierre. Let me start with some additional details on the impact of the India held for sale business on this quarter's financial statements as Pierre noted earlier we reported gap revenue of 542 million dollars for the third quarter this reflects negative revenue of 419 million dollars in our India held for sale business the substantial channel inventory in the country was reflected in our financial statements primarily as receivables during the quarter, we took several one-time actions to prepare the business for sale. These included physical product returns, taking provisions for additional product returns that will be completed in the fourth quarter, and granting price credits to customers on the remaining channel inventory to encourage faster clearing of that channel inventory. Each of these actions had the effect of reducing revenue as well as receivables. The net result was negative revenue for India for the quarter. This will also result in a substantial reduction in inventory held in the channel to much more normalized levels, with excess inventory to be held directly on FMC India's books as FMC-owned inventory. We are doing this as we believe it is much easier for a buyer to ascribe more certain value to physical inventory being purchased in a business sale than to receivables, which are subject to collection and other risks. Further, rapidly correcting channel inventory reduces risks associated with recent changes in the application of local indirect taxation rules. We intend to manage the India business with a heightened focus on liquidation of inventory in advance of completing the sale of the business. Third quarter gap net loss of $569 million reflects approximately $510 million of charges and write downs for the India held for sale business. Of this, $282 million reflects the channel inventory actions I just described. The remaining $227 million represents an impairment charge to bring the carrying value of the business to its estimated fair market value. The combination of the channel inventory actions and the impairment charge led to a write-down of the net assets identified as held for sale on our September 30th balance sheet to $450 million. As a reminder, third-quarter total company-adjusted EBITDA of $236 million excludes the results of the India held-for-sale business. Moving now to some other specific income and statement items. Third-quarter revenue excluding the India held-for-sale business was $961 million, which reflects a 1% currency tailwind, with benefit primarily coming from strengthening of the Brazilian RIA in the euro. We now expect the minor FX tailwinds to revenue experienced in the third quarter to continue in the fourth quarter, primarily driven by the Brazilian RIA and to a lesser degree by the Euro and Mexican Peso. For the full year, FX remains a minor headwind to revenue due to the 2% headwind in the first half. Third quarter interest expense of $64.1 million was up $5.4 million, with the impact of the higher rate on our recent subordinated debt offering only partially offset by lower short-term domestic rates and balance. We now expect full-year 2025 interest expense to be in the range of $230 to $240 million, essentially in line with the prior year, but up from our prior guidance, reflecting slightly higher than previously expected interest expense in the third quarter. We continue to expect depreciation and amortization for full year 2025 to be between $170 and $180 million. The effective tax rate on adjusted earnings in the third quarter was 12%, which brings our year-to-date effective tax rate in line with the midpoint of our updated expected full-year effective tax rate of 12 to 14%. Moving next to the balance sheet and leverage, we ended third quarter with gross debt of approximately $4.5 billion, up $379 million from the prior quarter. Cash on hand increased $60 million to $498 million, resulting in net debt of approximately $4.0 billion, up $319 million in the prior quarter. Gross debt to trailing 12-month EBITDA was five times at the quarter end, while net debt to EBITDA was 4.5 times. Relative to our leverage covenant, which includes adjustments to both the numerator and denominator, leverage was 4.94 times as compared to a covenant limit of 5.25 times. moving on now to free cash flow in slide eight free cash flow in the third quarter was negative 233 million dollars 365 million dollars lower than the prior year period cash from operations was down significantly due to the absence of working capital release from payables seen in the prior year period as well as due to delays and collections free cash flow year to date is negative 789 million dollars with the absence of the working capital improvement seen in the prior year being the key driver relative to our internal expectations free cash flow in the third quarter was significantly impacted by collection delays in latin america these delays are a result of both reduced liquidity in the channel as well as delays and growers monetizing the cotton crop elsewhere collection delays are coming primarily from intensified competitive pressures going beyond price competition to include payment terms as well In light of actual performance year-to-date, our reduced outlook for EBITDA, and our expectation of continued working capital pressures in the fourth quarter, we've reduced our outlook for full-year free cash flow to a range of negative $200 million to $0. This updated free cash flow outlook, combined with the $291 million in dividends paid thus far this year, suggests an increase in net debt of roughly $400 million at year-end. As such, we are taking two immediate actions. First, our Board of Directors has changed the company's dividend policy to establish a new quarterly dividend payout of $0.08 per share, affected with the pending declaration of our next dividend payable in January of 2026. This is an over 85% reduction in quarterly dividend, which will reduce the funding need for the dividend by $250 million in 2026. This will allow significantly more of the free cash flow we generate in 2026 to be directed to debt reduction. Second, we've begun discussions with our bank group to further amend the financial covenants and our revolving credit facility agreement to provide us with additional flexibility as we navigate these challenges. We anticipate completing this amendment in the fourth quarter and will provide further updates at that time. These actions are in addition to the cost reduction efforts Pierre described earlier in the call. which will also help increase future free cash flow generation, so they will require use of cash in the short term. And to be abundantly clear, all free cash flow generated beyond the roughly $40 million required annually to fund the reduced dividend will be directed to debt repayment until we return leverage to healthier investment grade levels. With that, I'll hand the call back to Pierre.
Thank you, Andrew. Normally, at this time of the year, we would provide some directional commentary for the upcoming year however as we look ahead to 2026 there are still a number of uncertainties not at least of which are tariffs for china and india on a february earnings call we will be in a better position to provide formal numerical gains for 26 as well as new multi-year outlook. Taking a step back, FMC's second half gallons is consistent with last year on a like-for-like basis, excluding India, with sales down 1% and EBITDA up 4% at the midpoint of gallons. Despite a challenging market, volume is growing in the second half as the industry recovers, And while growth is below our initial expectations, performance remains solid, and we are taking decisive actions to strengthen our position. We're adapting our strategy. We're redefining our manufacturing footprint. We're reducing cost.
We're making the necessary capital allocation decisions. the growth engine of the company new active ingredients is intact and we're protecting our ability to invest in the innovation that differentiate us with that we're ready to take your questions we will now begin the question and answer session to be placed in the queue please press the star key then one on your touchtone phone if you are using a speaker phone please pick up your headset before pressing the keys please limit yourself to one question if you have additional questions, you can jump back in the queue. To withdraw from the queue, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Duffy Fisher with the company Goldman Sachs.
Yes, good morning, guys. So on the free cash flow guide, at the midpoint, you're down $400 million versus what you expected last quarter. Can you just talk about the buckets of what's eating up that cash flow? I know some of it is working capital. And then do you think you get a one-time release of that back next year, or is this going to be a new going forward, you know, higher commitment of cash needed for your EBITDA delivery?
Thanks. Hey, it's Andrew. I'll take this question. Look, in terms of changes got from last guidance to current guidance on free cash flow for 25. look it starts with a 60 million reduction and full year EBITDA guidance right so let's be clear we've taken down sales by over 200 million dollars and EBITDA by 60 million dollars since our prior guidance and that that has an impact on collections which you know bluntly collections are predominant of the of the moon forecast and guidance between the two calls lower sales in q3 and q4 means less that will be collected not all would be collected in those quarters by any means but we would have collected some of those sales we're also because of liquidity conditions seeing fewer cash sales you know there's a portion of our mix that is sold you know it's basically immediate payment known as cash sales uh liquidity constraints are limiting that part of the collections mix in q3 and q4 and we are seeing competitive pressure that's pushing for longer terms so the biggest part of the bridge between past guidance and current guidance is collections there are a couple of other factors. There are certainly some noise around our India exit. There was a certain amount of cash that were built into our guidance being collected in the second half into our prior guidance for India. You know, as we've made adjustments and decisions on how we want to operate that business to better prepare it for sale, there is some friction there. And we are seeing some higher cash spending than we've previously anticipated. And this is things like higher tariffs. You know, the India tariffs that are currently in place were not a part of our thinking when we last gave cash guidance. We've taken some additional restructuring actions. As Pierre mentioned, we shut down a manufacturing line that has cash costs to the shutdown of that manufacturing line. And we are seeing higher cash interest expense as we're carrying higher commercial paper balances or higher working capital. But that bridge, again, the primary piece is collection. So as we look ahead to 26, certainly we would expect to see, you know, delays collections from the cotton crop in Brazil to be caught up in the early part of 26. But we do anticipate continued competitive pressure on terms. So we're still working through, as we think through budget for 26, how we see those dynamics playing out. There's also considerable uncertainty around tariffs. And just as a reminder, we pay tariffs up front. It takes a long time for that to flow through our P&L. We recognize this revenue and profit through the you know that the long supply chain that we have but those tariffs are paid very early in that process and then we will have further restructuring expenses in in 2026 as we reconfigure our manufacturing network and streamline our asia operations so i would expect that we'll have meaningful free cash flow particularly with the lower funding need for the dividend in 26 to allow for significant debt reduction but apparently at this point it's just too early to get too strong of an indication for 2026 cash flow great thank you next question comes from then through
with the company barclays then your line is not open uh yeah good morning and uh thank you very much for taking my question could you uh give us maybe a little bit of an indication would you expect the sale price for that india business might be and the more color on the buyer interest that would be appreciated. Thank you.
So right now, as you could see in the way we are presenting the results, the number of the value for the value of that business is about $450 million as a total value. The interest level is very high, and I would say higher than what we were expecting. The number of inbounds requests is higher than we're expecting. A vast majority of local companies, but still some international companies and sponsors looking into the business. So the process is proceeding quite well. Anything, Andrew, you want to add on the value of the business?
No, just to note that we did write down the business to its fair market value of $450 million. That reflects the value of the business, which includes substantial value for the brands, as well as the existing business infrastructure that would be transferred to a buyer. It also reflects the value of the working capital that is invested in that business.
Okay, perfect. Thank you very much.
The next question comes from Matthew Doyle with the company Bank of America. Matthew, your line is not open.
Good morning. I appreciate there's a lot of uncertainty in the outlook, and I know there's some patent issues obviously approaching, but just as we think about the credit position and the expectation for working capital headwinds, tailwinds next year, do you remain committed to the IG rating? and how do you think about backstopping that? Is equity issuance to protect IG on the table or not? Maybe that's too early to talk about. I just wanted to get a sense.
Yeah, thanks, Matt. It's Andrew again. I think it's a bit early to talk about all the potential actions. I think certainly we've done a number of things that were taken with the specific intention of supporting the investment grade rating. You know, we did the hybrid subordinated offering in May. We've just announced a very significant cut in the dividend. You know, I think at this point, we recognize that our metrics are not currently in line with an investment grade rating. The agencies have been supportive of working with us as we continue to work through our transformation. We've started discussions with them, but it's a bit of a work in progress at this point. So, look, I think we're focused on making sure we're doing the right things for the business and the long-term health and returning over a period of time to investment-grade ratings. How the agencies view that, we influence but don't control. But we're going to do the right things in terms of reducing the use of cash to fund the dividends so it'll allow us time to pay down debt and also to support the restructuring costs that we need to get the manufacturing footprint in its right place. So, you know, at this point, I think, you know, we expect to end the year. If you take the midpoint of our guidance range for EBITDA and for free cash flow and the implied debt, that implies net debt at year end at about four times net debt. You know, at that point, it'll take a couple of years to get that back into more in line with investment-grade ratings. So, we're going to continue to do everything we can to manage cash conservatively, effectively, direct all the available cash to debt redeployment and debt reduction, and we'll keep working with the agencies to show them the path that we see to returning to healthier metrics.
Our next question comes from Jeff Zakakis with the company JPMorgan. Jeff, your line is not open.
Thanks very much. There are different structural changes going on in the crop chemical industry. your competitor or Corteva is going to plans to split into a seed business and a crop chemical business. As you think of competing against them, do you think it will be easier to compete against an entity that's a pure crop chemical company? Or do you think that it will be harder? They'll lack the seed component? Do the seeds make any difference in selling crop chemicals?
Of course, it's a question we've been asking ourselves, and which is difficult to answer. My initial reaction, and once again, until we are in the situation, it will be difficult to say, But it might not change how difficult it is to compete against a crop chemical company as a standalone. It might have a benefit for us, and I'm highly speculating here, is that it might open more for us in the future the Corteva seed hectares to sell our crop chemical products. so not expecting much of a change i think cortiva crop chemical will be as good in the future as they are today could we be in a situation where we have more opportunities on the seed front of cortiva with their crop chemical being uh being maybe less uh that that is a possibility the next
question comes from Edlaine Rodriguez with the company Mizzouho. Edlaine, your line is not open.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. A quick question, Pierre. How much of what's going on right now do you think is FMC-specific versus how much is industry issues? And related to that, when do you think you'll have a good sense of what's really going on with the portfolio? because it seems like you're playing a game of whack-a-mole. Problems keep with surfing, and then you have to put the fire out. When do you think you have a better sense of what's going on in the portfolio, and is it company-specific versus industry-specific?
All right. I'm going to try to answer it. It's an important question we are obviously looking at. First, let me talk about what is, I would say, industry. Let's face it. We still are in a slow market. The market is not worsening. I think we're at the bottom of the cycle, but the market is not improving. So we are facing a situation where the demand is soft and there is ample capacity, mostly due to generics increasing their capacity. So there is, and especially in places where it's easy for generics to get registration like Asia or Latin America, there is an intensified competition on the non-IP protected product with generics and especially for direct sales to customers. So it's a broader industry statement. Now, what is more FMC specific? I think there is a positive in FMC portfolio. This is our new technologies. Our new technologies are growing very fast and there is a very strong demand. Unfortunately it's not growing fast enough because registration in our industry takes time. So as important as those products are and as important as a growth portfolio is, it is not today large enough to impact significantly the performance of the companies. On the negative front, there is two events which are happening. Ronex appear, and we talked about it. We don't view that as a growth molecule, and it's a molecule for which we have developed a strategy to protect earnings, but not to grow earnings. Now comes the last point we talked about in our remarks. We were hoping about a year ago to see a market ramping up and being able to defend better a non-IP protected product using branding, using service, using IP protected mixtures. It is a fact that we knew that we had a manufacturing cost which was not very competitive for part of a portfolio. We believe for the next two or three years we could live with that. it is not happening i think with the market remaining remaining soft we are seeing generics being more and more aggressive and we are forced to do maybe a bit earlier in a more aggressive way a complete rethinking of a manufacturing portfolio so i would say there is a path which is industry linked and then on the fmc side there is a lot of positive but 26 27 are a bit early to see those product influencing strongly and specifically to fmc is the renax appear situation we've discussed and our manufacturing costs which need to be addressed our next question comes from lawrence and lesander with the company jeffries Lauren, is that open?
Good morning. How much of your portfolio is now in the category of reassessing the production costs and likely bringing prices down in 26 and 27?
And then related to that, does the season in Brazil and the generic pressure, is that also leading you to rethink how much of a diamide reset you might have in 26 and 27? so um to to to answer your first question um i want to be careful because we are just starting uh this work and uh you know changing manufacturing in our world is not only a matter of changing manufacturing you also have to take into account new sources and registration So it's a very involved process. I would say for sure, we will retain in a manufacturing portfolio, Renex appear, sales appear, the four new active ingredients, and there is also two important molecules today which are multi-hundred million barrels which are produced in some of our low-cost plants which will stay with us all of the rest in the analysis is candidate for being moved to a different uh to a different manufacturing location or different or different sourcing Regarding diamides, at this stage, we do not believe what we are talking about is changing our strategy or make us believe we should go further in terms of pricing. That dynamic around Ronexa P especially was very much in place, was already happening. There is nothing changing here. So at this stage, we do not believe it will have an impact. That being said, we've developed a strategy, we are starting implementation, and we will be adjusting as we need between cost to take share over other type of insecticide or lower end market and high end mixtures to reinforce the position on the high end market for a Rodex appear. so we will adjust but there is nothing jumping at us right now requiring a change in our strategy thank you our next question comes from joe jackson with the company bmo capital markets joe your
lines are open uh good morning pierre and team um you're describing you know a lot going on obviously the company you're talking about you know redoing maybe how you manufacture for a larger portfolio or you're exiting at India. You've got things with an extra going on next year. You've made some management changes recently. As you go through all this, are you starting to think about in a fragmented industry in crop chems, does FMC have the right structure? Should it be acquisitive? Should you start looking at if you should partner with others? Tell me about how deep your thoughts are going here and to all the scenarios that could happen.
Yes, I think we believe we have a clear path on where the company is going. It's evolving in terms of the speed at which we should do it, but we have a clear path. We do believe if we project ourselves by 2028, we have a very high level of comfort in the way the company should be operating because at that time between biological the four new active ingredients and sales appear we will have a very significant growth portfolio which will be generating strong growth and profit with all of the work we are doing and it's very heavy lifting in 2026 we would be able to protect a core portfolio including Rolex up here to grow at market speed and I think at that time but by this time in 2028 when a growth portfolio is significant enough we will be in a position to be a company which will be looking much more like the company we were in 2018, and the model is showing it. The very positive thing is we know how to change a manufacturing process and structure, and we have a very solid demand on the new technologies which are coming at us, including the one which is not commercialized yet. where we have demand from customers to get accelerated registration from authorities. So I think that is fairly straightforward. I have to be completely honest. The difficult period for us is 2026, while we are readjusting the company to be able to get to the point I just described. partnership uh i think partnership will be more and more and and also on the technology front will be more and more uh part of the way we do business uh we could see for example the discussion and uh partnership we had on fluent appear with cortiva this is working very well and i think it's going to be the name of the game for a crop chemical company in the future.
The next question comes from Patrick Cunningham with the company Citigroup. Patrick, your line is now open.
Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. What are the cost reduction initiatives you have in Asia following the India sale? And would exiting more countries in the region potentially be on the table for you or perhaps other regions as well?
I didn't get the first part here. I can answer the second part. Right now, India is an isolated case and is the only country for which we intend to take the type of action we are taking. Other countries in Asia, or even for that matter in Latin America, are for historical reasons not performing as well as we would like, but all of them are fixable and we have a plan for them. So to the second part of your question, India is an isolated case and the only one for which we are intending to uh to have a self-process the first part of the question what are some of the cost actions in asia oh cost action in asia uh it's quite simple i mean think think about a region where uh india reached multi-hundred uh pixels with a quite uh quite a large infrastructure to support india to support manufacturing there, to support research and development, and was a very significant part of the region. We have not fundamentally changed the way that region is structured with way significant sales. You do not need the same R&D as before. You do not need the same marketing. You do not need the same sales structure. And you don't need the same administration. So we need to resize the region to something which is much smaller than what it used to Our next question comes from Chris Parkinson with the company Wolf Research.
Chris, your line is not open.
Great. Thank you so much. Pierre, you know, there's still a lot of things in terms of your R&D pipeline that have significant value. And obviously, we're seeing good things out of Isoflex, Flondapir. There are a lot of things in 26, 27, I believe, in the pheromones, nebatodes. I mean, there's a lot of things that are still there that the market perhaps is overlooking. You know, what is your willingness or aversion to potentially trying to monetize or partner with some of the value that's there just to alleviate some of the pressures that the company is currently facing? Is that at all on the table or is that something that's just, you know, not a consideration? Thank you.
Interesting question, Grace. As you can guess, this is something we talked about. It always depends where the product stands in its development, and it could generate a different type of partnership. At this stage, we are excluding selling any of the active ingredients which are the closest to commercialization, and you name the four of them, as well as some which are in the pipeline getting closer to commercialization. But we very much consider partnership with other companies we had multiple in bonds in terms of interest for those molecules and it is something we would not ignore i could not tell what would be the structure of those partnerships but uh it's absolutely something which is on the table but not not selling the selling the molecule and and us not participating in the growth of those molecules which represent the future of this very helpful color thank you a nice question comes from alesky you're from over with the company key corp alesky your line is not open uh thanks uh good morning uh pierre in light of this uh shifting environment you had a goal of keeping right next to pier earnings flat next here uh what are your latest thoughts on that uh at this stage at this stage uh we we believe it is still a valid strategy we've been starting the implementation of a strategy at the end of the third quarter not because we are seeing a major change in the way generics are penetrating new territories because we are still patent protected, but we see customers, rightfully so, putting their purchase of Ronex APR on hold until they see what will be happening early 26, when generics will be coming. So for us, it's a prelude to what we will be facing in 2026. hence we started to put in place our strategic plan from our next year. And if you look at the third quarter number, it's demonstrating that what we do and the way we think about it is valid. Sales are flat, volumes are up, and price is down, which is the fundamental of what we want to do when we implement that strategy in 2026 so at this stage we are staying with the same plan we have no indication that we should change it but as i said before we we shall adapt depending upon this is unfolding next question comes from vincent andrews with the company, Morgan Stanley.
Vincent, your line is now.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Andrew, could I ask you on the $2.3 billion of non-India receivables, is there a way you can help us understand what percentage of those have already been consumed by a grower and you're waiting for them to monetize the crop to be paid versus what percentage is maybe still on the supply chain and hasn't been sold yet and could still be subject to some type of price rebate if market prices have moved negatively versus what that inventory is originally sold for?
Interesting question. Not something I can directly answer today, Vincent. I think certainly, you know, as we look at where we are with working capital right now, you know, we're building working capital as we sell into the new seasons in Latin America in particular. We are seeing an increase like for like, excluding India and receivables year on year. So we are watching that closely with what's going on with competitive pressure on terms, et cetera, but I'm not able to characterize the receivables in the way that you're asking today. I think just some general proportions, certainly in this part of the year and as we get to year end, you should expect that 40 to 50 percent of our receivables are in Latin America, which is seasonally appropriate as we are growing. You know, we have seen some delays in collection in Latin America, particularly around the monetization of the cotton crop, as we've talked about. That's led to a modest uptick in past dues, but past dues of short duration, you know, that 30 to 60 day window as we're waiting for farmers to get paid by the commodity houses for their crop. So, you know, that's a little bit of color there on working capital, but just certainly would reinforce working capital receival is something to get an incredible amount of focus from the management team as we navigate what's going on with market dynamics today.
Final question comes from Josh Spector with the company UBS. Josh, your line is that open?
Hi, good morning. I have two quick ones. One kind of related to the past one slightly, just around fourth quarter cash from ops. I mean, basically, you need about a $700 million uplift, it looks like, to hit your guidance. I mean, is that all network and capital production and collections? And do you have visibility towards that with high confidence? And then second, kind of related more around inventory dynamics with weaker demand and more generics pressure. Are you taking inventory action that's impacting fourth quarter EBITDA? And is there any carryover risk of that into 2026? Thanks. Yes.
So, look, Q4 is always a profoundly positive cash flow quarter for us with the seasonality of working capital, including significant prepayments in the U.S. business. So the proportions you're pointing to, yeah, I mean, you're looking at a circa $700 million free cash flow fourth quarter. That is in no way unprecedented and very much our normal seasonality. Certainly, we are watching closely the pressures on terms and particularly the mix of our sales that are sold sort of on a cash basis collected within the quarter that can impact that. You know, to your second question around inventory, you know, we do expect in the year with a bit more inventory now than what we had originally contemplated because of lower sales. You know, we have a very long supply chain, so a lot of the active ingredient for those sales was already procured and is in inventory. It may not be all the way into formulated product, but, you know, we have that material on hand. And that does impact the way we were thinking about the working capital bill that's traditional in the first half of the year for us in terms of what production we need to have materials available to meet the sales plan for the first half of next year. So too early to be too specific on that, but certainly, you know, what's happening with inventory right now will influence our production plans for product needed in the first half and will impact, you know, what the magnitude of the working capital billed in the first half will be next year.
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