Penske Automotive Group, Inc. (PAG) Q1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Good afternoon. Welcome to the Penske Automotive Group First Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay approximately one hour after completion through May 6, 2026 on the company's website under the Investors tab at www.penskeautomotive.com. I will now introduce Anthony Porton, the company's Executive Vice Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Sir, please go ahead.

Thank you, Krista. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. A press release detailing Penske Automotive Group's first quarter 2026 financial results was issued this morning and is posted on our website along with a presentation designed to assist you in understanding the company's results. As always, I'm available by email or phone for any follow-up questions you may have. Joining me for today's call is Roger Penske, our Chair and CEO, Shelley Hallgrave, our EVP and Chief Financial Officer, Rich Shearing from North American Operations, Randall Seymour of International Operations, and Tony Piccioni, our Vice President and Corporate Controller. We may make forward-looking statements on today's call about our earnings potential outlook and other future events and we also may discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures such as EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA. We've also prominently presented and reconciled any non-GAAP measures for the most directly comparable GAAP measures in this morning's press release and investor presentation, again both of which are available on our website. Our future results may vary from our expectations because of risk and uncertainties outlined in today's press release under forward-looking statements. I direct you to our SEC filings, including our Form 10-K and previously filed Form 10-Qs for additional discussion and factors that could cause future results to differ materially from expectations. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Roger Penske.

Thank you, Tony. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We are pleased to report a solid and productive first quarter. During the first quarter, PAG delivered over 123,000 new and used vehicles and nearly 3,600 new and used commercial trucks, and that generated approximately $7.9 billion in revenue. We earned $324 million in earnings before taxes and $235 million in net income and generated earnings per share of three dollars and 56 cents the first quarter results include a 60 million dollar gain on the sale of a dealership partially offset by 13 million in certain disposals and other charges as we continue to optimize our dealership portfolio excluding these items adjusted earnings before taxes was 276 million net income was 201 and earnings per share was three dollars and five cents this was a difficult comparison for the prior year period and challenging market conditions impacted year-over-year performance we also continue to grow our footprint. In February, we acquired two high-performing and strategic Lexus dealerships in Orlando metropolitan area of Central Florida, one of the fastest growing regions in the U.S. These acquisitions complement the two Lexus and two Toyota dealerships we acquired in November 2025. Combined, these six dealerships are expected to generate $2 billion in estimated annualized revenue. We also repurchased 170,000 shares of common stock for $26 million. We increased the dividend at $1.40, which yields approximately 3.4%, the highest yield in our peer group. Looking at the details for the quarter, same-store retail automotive new units declined 5% and used increased 1%. Units retailed were impacted by weather-related challenges and a difficult comparison to march 2025 when tariffs caused pull ahead sales and lower bev sales in the u.s associated with the elimination of the bev tax credit gross profit per unit new unit retailed was four thousand seven hundred eighty three dollars up ninety four dollars sequentially gross profit per use unit was two thousand seventy six dollars up three hundred and six dollars sequentially our service and parts revenue and gross profit was a q1 record same store revenue increased 4.6 and related gross profit increased 5.7 percent service and parts gross price margin was up 60 basis points. In the retail commercial truck segment, Q1 unit sales declined 953 units driven by reduced order intake during Q3 and Q4 2025 following the implementation of tariffs and weakness in the freight market. However, we are encouraged today with the trends we are seeing across the commercial truck market. In recent months, we've seen an increase in new truck orders and expect the timing of these deliveries to take place in the second half of 2026. PTS equity income increased 24%. Growth in the full service leasing revenue, improved fleet utilization, lower operating and interest expenses resulting from continued fleet reductions, including maintenance and our depreciation, or partially offset by continued challenges in the rental and lower gain on sale of trucks. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Rich Sherry.

Thank you, Roger, and good afternoon, everyone. In U.S. retail automotive, same-store new and used unit sales were affected by two major winter storms, Liberation Day tariff announcement, and pull forward of retail sales in March of last year, and lower BEV sales from easing emissions regulations and the elimination of the BEV tax credit at the end of September 2025. During the quarter, 25% of new units sold were at MSRP, compared to 29% in Q1 last year. Same-store service and parts revenue increased 3.2%, and gross profit increased 3.4%. Customer pay was up 4%, warranty was up 5%, and collision repair declined 4%. Our U.S. automotive technician count is up 3% when compared to the end of March of last year, and our bay utilization is 84%. Turning to Premier Truck Group, during Q1, Premier Truck retailed 3,583 new and used trucks, generated $695 million in revenue and $128 million in gross profit. On a sequential basis compared to Q4 2025, new unit gross increased $111 and used unit gross increased $4,624. New unit sales were down 26% and were in line with the overall North American Class 8 market. The recessionary freight environment and market uncertainty associated with tariffs and the status of emissions regulations impacted new truck orders during the last half of 2025. However, as Roger mentioned, in recent months we have seen an increase in new truck orders. In fact, Class 8 orders increased 91 percent and the industry backlog grew 33 percent to 175,000 units in the first quarter when compared to March of last year. We expect this increase in order activity to result in higher new unit sales in the second half of this year. Service and parks revenue increased five percent as the average daily activity continues to grow and service backlog is beginning to increase. Service and parks gross profit represented 73 percent of segment gross profit during Q1. Turning to Penske Transportation Solutions, we are also encouraged by the stronger financial performance of Penske Transportation solutions. During Q1, operating revenue declined 4% to $2.5 billion. Least revenue increased 2%, rental revenue declined 17%, and logistics revenue declined 3%. PTS sold 9,319 units in Q1, ending the quarter with a fleet size of 387,500 units compared to 435,000 at the end of December 2024. Gain on sale declined by $26 million in Q1-26 compared to Q1-2025. As PTS continues to right-size its fleet, higher fleet utilization, lower operating costs for maintenance depreciation and interest expense contributed to an increase in earnings. Overall, our equity income from PTS increased 24% to $41 million.

I would now like to turn the call over to Randall Seymour to discuss our international operations thanks rich good afternoon everyone during q1 international revenue was 3.3 billion which is up six percent international new units were up two percent and used increased three percent same store service and parts revenue increased seven percent as our strategies to increase customer pay drove a ten percent increase increase which was more than offset the 3% decline in warranty. In the UK market, Q1 automotive registrations increased 6% to $615,000 driven by private and retail demand and an increase in Chinese OEM sales. While we were encouraged by Q1, the UK automotive environment remains challenging as inflation, higher taxes, consumer affordability, and the government mandate towards electrification impacts the overall market. During Q1, our UK same-store new units delivered were flat from lower sales of several German luxury brands and the elimination of the motability programs for these luxury brands. Same-store used units increased 3% and gross profit per unit increased $500 sequentially when compared to Q4 2025. Turning to Australia, our EBT increased 15% compared to Q1 last year. In automotive, our three Porsche dealerships in Melbourne continue to gain market traction through implementing our Porsche One ecosystem process. This process has driven higher customer satisfaction with all three dealerships in the top five, including the top position nationally. Although we had a decline in new unit sales associated with the transition of the Macan to an all-electric vehicle, we had a strong mix of higher-end vehicles and our focus on pre-owned and after-sales continues to drive the business. In the Australian commercial vehicle and power system business, we are diversified with revenue and gross profit split approximately two-thirds off-highway and one-third on-highway. The off-highway business continues to grow. The current order book has exceeded our full-year business plan with strength seen in energy solutions, mining, and defense sectors. We have over 600 million Australian in secured orders so far for 2026. The engines and support we provide will be critical as this segment evolves. We continue to see the potential for our energy solutions business to generate at least 1 billion Aussie dollars in revenue by 2030. Over the last several years, our focus has been to increase units in operation to grow the recurring service, parts, and remanufacturing aspects of our business. And this focus is starting to pay off. One of the major mining customers operates a 125-megawatt power station with 20 Bergen engines that we installed four years ago. As part of the major maintenance interval, we have begun to remanufacture 300 cylinder heads, which will generate approximately 15,000 hours of work for our business. I would now like to turn the caller over to Shelly Holgrave to review our cash flow balance sheet and capital allocation.

Thank you, Randall. Good afternoon, everyone. We remain committed to a strong balance sheet and a flexible and disciplined approach to capital allocation while driving our diversification strategy, implementing efficiencies, and striving to lower costs. SG&A expenses increased by 1.5%, which is lower than the rate of inflation, while gross profit declined 1.7%. SG&A as a percentage of gross profit for Q1 2026 was 74.3%. Adjusted SG&A to gross profit was 73.3%. percent. Q1 SG&A to growth was impacted by employee benefit costs up $4 million, payroll taxes and other UK social programs up $3.5 million, rent and real estate taxes up $7 million, and lower automotive units and the impact from lower sales of new and used commercial vehicles at Premier truck group. During Q1, we generated $215 million in cash flow from operations and EBITDA of $397 million. During Q1 2026, we invested $63 million in capital expenditures. This is down from $85 million in Q1 2025. We completed acquisitions of two Lexus dealerships representing $450 million an estimated annualized revenue. We increased the cash dividend to $1.40 per share, representing the 21st consecutive quarterly increase. On a forward basis, our current dividend yield is approximately 3.4% with a payout ratio of 39% over the last 12 months. And we repurchased 170,000 shares of common stock for 26 million dollars. As of March 31st, 2026, 221 million remained available for repurchases under our securities repurchase program. Since the beginning of 2023, we have returned approximately 1.6 billion dollars to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. At the end of March, non-vehicle long-term debt was 2.6 billion and leverage was only 1.8 times, despite completing several large acquisitions over the last six months. Floor plan was $4.1 billion, and we had $425 million in vehicle equity. For the quarter, total interest expense increased $2 million. Floor plan interest decreased $4 million due to our cash management and lower interest rates, while other interest expense increased $6 million, primarily from higher borrowings for acquisitions. We estimate a 25 basis point change in interest rates would impact interest expense by approximately $15 million. Our effective tax rate was 27.4% in Q1-2026. The prior year results have been recast for the acquisition of Penske Motor Group using Common Control as disclosed last quarter. As a reminder, PMG was a partnership prior to our acquisition and was not subject to income tax. Q1 2025 does not reflect federal or state income taxes had PMG been included in our taxable group. Therefore, period-over-period comparisons of net income and earnings per share may not be directly comparable due to the change in tax status of PMG. The impact to the effective tax rate would have been approximately 100 basis points and the impact to earnings per share would have been 5 cents. Total inventory was $4.9 billion, up $77 million from December 2025. New vehicle inventory is at a 44-day supply, including 46 days for premium and 29 days for volume foreign. Used vehicle inventory is at a 39-day supply, with the U.S. at 33 days and the U.K. at 42 days. At the end of March, we had $84 million in cash and liquidity of $1.2 billion. At this time, I will turn the call back to Roger for some final remarks.

Thank you, Shelly. As mentioned, we added two Lexus dealerships to PAG during the first quarter, and today I'd like to welcome our new teams at Lexus Orlando and Lexus Winter Park to our organization. As I said earlier, we had a solid first quarter, and I continue to remain optimistic about our business. New and used retail automotive grocers remain strong, and service and parts continue to grow. Our diversification remains our key strength of our business model. The recovery in the commercial truck market is underway. We expect to increase new truck orders to benefit the second half of the year, and our retail truck dealerships and PTS investment should benefit. Again today, thanks for joining our call. We'll take questions.

Thank you.

If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue and if you'd like to withdraw your question again press star one your first question comes from michael ward with citigroup please go ahead hey mike thank you everybody thank you very much and um good afternoon i hope you all are doing well um weather had a significant impact on the industry and January and February in the U.S., can you quantify at all how much you were affected and were you able to get any of that back?

Hey, Mike, this is Rich here. Good question. I mean, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, two significant storms, both, you know, one in January, one in February, impacted the first storm in January, I think, was almost 2,400 miles in, you know, its length. And so it impacted our businesses from Texas all the way to the northeast. And so we had either delayed openings, multiple-day closures, you know, as we had to deal with the cleanup. So February wasn't as bad, but did impact pretty significantly the northeast. Now, the good news is, obviously, the competitors around us in those markets also, you know, suffered the same challenges. So we don't think consumers were running to their dealerships to buy cars while we were struggling. But certainly from a fixed gross standpoint, you know, there was lost business there because that's time you just can't get back. So we had the added expense of the snow removal, and then we attribute the fixed gross loss to about $4 million to $5 million. And then in total overall, about a $6 million impact to our earnings in Q1 as related to the weather.

Okay. Thank you. Shelly, you called out. I don't know if you were calling out or just the cost on the SG&A side of about $15 million. It sounds like some of those will be recurring, I guess the rent and the health in the UK. Are those one time in nature? Are they not recurring? What were you kind of alluding to with that?

Hey, Mike. Yeah, a little bit of both. Certainly, you know, rent increases we see year over year. You know, health benefit plans, we certainly hope those costs go down, but that doesn't seem to be the trend. I wanted to highlight the fact that the UK social programs, this is the last quarter before we anniversary those, so it's a bit, you know, uncomparable compared to Q1 of 2025, but like I said, we'll see that anniversary here in Q2.

Okay, and that's about 30 or 40 BIPs, right?

Yeah, we estimate without those that our SG&A to growth would be in that 71 to 72% range that we had talked about, so, you know, still comfortable in that low 70s range.

Okay, thank you. And just lastly, it looks like you've been doing some portfolio rebalancing, Usually you don't see much movement in the retail automotive revenue mix, but you see a couple of good changes year over year. And I'm just wondering if that's a trend we can look to more. Are those going to be your focus brands continue to focus on the luxury volume foreign? That's the strategy, correct?

Well, Mike, let me say this. that we actually sat with our board probably 18 months ago to determine what was going to be our strategy on brands, locations, not only domestically but internationally. And we felt that we would look at our low performers and then we looked at what were the expectations of the manufacturer from a CapEx perspective and then what could we grow that business. And we determined there were probably a number of locations that we would need to... to sell uh in order to get every return that we would want on top of that because of our commitment to go forward with Penske Motor Group and we had to commit to sell two Lexus stores one in Warwick and one in Madison Wisconsin which we completed obviously that gave us the opportunity to buy the Orlando stores and the PMG stores along with that we took out a number of other smaller locations some larger some in the uk and that generate about 300 i'd say 25 to 350 million worth of free cash flow back on these stores uh which we uh which we sold which obviously we use some of that money to pay to buy these other key stores that we're going forward with so We'll continue to prune the portfolio. We're still in the acquisition business. I think we made the decision in the U.K. to reduce our number of Sittner select stores from 14 to 6, which is paying off. We were taking those locations and adding the Chinese brands in the same showroom. So overall, I think the strategy has worked, and we've kept our leverage, as Shelly said, from around 1.5 to 1.8. am i right that's right so i think it's been a good move and we'll continue and i think i see our peers doing the same thing because today the cost of doing business is so high and some of these smaller locations with all the controls you need and the high costs are the best people we do we just can't see the numbers give us the returns we want so all of us are obviously looking for uh locations at least we are or we can add on in key markets so mike mike this is tony just page nine of our earnings presentations a key chart in the deck that lays out

what our total revenue is right and you can see there in particular premium 72 percent volume uh volume non-us is 22 and then when you look at the toyota the toyota lexus number it has jumped up to 18 percent of our overall business from an automotive standpoint so very very key with the the acquisitions and the oem presence that we have yeah yeah proactive plan looks like you're just uh pulling it off so thank you very much appreciate it everybody thanks mike your next question comes from the line of rajat gupta with jp morgan please go ahead uh great thanks for

the question hi hey roger hey everyone um uh just wanted to follow up on ptl um you know pretty pretty nice earnings growth um you know in the quarter obviously despite the lower gain on sale obviously a lot of those improvements are coming from just lower maintenance debt you know fleet costs etc i'm curious how we should think about the trajectory of ptl earnings for the remainder of the year, any kind of guardrails you can give us for the four-year?

I think number one, we've come from roughly 430,000 units defleeted to 387,000 at the end of the quarter. So that's obviously reduced significant interest costs in our depreciation has been impacted positively with that. But the good news is that our fleet utilization on the rental side, which before we were down to 71 percent, it's now moved up to 76 percent. And I think we've seen that the operating side of our business has been excellent during the quarter and really in q4 also because our gain on sale obviously has been down 26 million in the in the quarter so we we were able to pick that back up through utilization through lease revenue and some of our logistics businesses which provided an overall pickup in our profit their profit from 120 million to 142 million we've got lower operating expenses obviously as I mentioned, maintenance, depreciation, et cetera. So it's operations. I think you'd think about interest, depreciation, gain on sale is down, but still higher than it was a year ago. But we're seeing rental utilization up about 500 basis points.

So it looks like a lot of these trends are sustainable, at least from a cost and earnings perspective, so it remains over the year on a year-over-year basis.

Rizak, could you repeat that, please?

I was trying to say that a lot of these trends seem sustainable, so the remains of the year, at least on the cost side, you know, when you look at the new trends.

Are you talking about PTS?

Yes.

Look, certainly we are continuing. We probably have another 3,000 or 4,000 units that we'll take out easily during this year from a fleet perspective will continue to grow it also we're seeing with the revenue coming back on rental we can take some of our off lease equipment and replace that at that point so i think the uh the older trucks are out now which we're providing much higher maintenance so we're seeing that maintenance uh and entire maintenance much much better and i think that the customer acceptance. This is a key one for you. We're starting to see people signing up for long-term leases. Say there was a pause over the last 90 to 120 days with emissions, with costs, et cetera. And we weren't getting the traction in the month or the quarter Q1. We saw our lease signings going up, which bodes well for us for the future because these leases are three, four, five years of economic escalators.

Got it. Got it. And just to follow up on the parts and service business, more on the international side, pretty strong numbers overall. But it looks like if you look at it, excluding the FX benefit, you know, growth was probably flat to slightly up. I'm curious, if that's correct. And, you know, what kind of initiatives are in place to maybe accelerate that growth going forward. Thanks.

Hey, Rajat, it's Randall. No, if you take the FX out, that's correct. In the UK, we were slightly up. But as an example, Italy, we were up 11 percent, Germany up 20 percent. And it's really on the back of customer pay focus because warranty is actually down. And remember, internationally, we don't get the markup on parts like we do here in the u.s so you only get 10 margin where on on warranty on the parts whereas customer pay it's the same so it's the mix and the focus on customer pay that's driving it uh you know with with the higher margin business got it what what do you have internationally the uk versus non-uk uh any rough numbers there italy was up 11 germany was up 20. i mean like this mix of services, just mix up your business in terms of contribution in UK and non-UK.

I'll get that back to you offline after the call.

Thanks for all the caller.

Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Lick with Stephens. Please go ahead.

Hey, Jeff. Thanks for taking my question. Hey, Roger, how are you? Good. a question for rich rich uh you know as we get into this part of the year kind of you know april through the rest of the year you know lapping against last year you know last year at this time luxury started to lag uh you know the broader auto sector and you know with the exception of april and uh i mean of august and september with the evs just kind of curious how you're seeing things now as the year plays out you know because you you guys you know are a bit unique in that you have easier compares, just kind of curious, you know, how you're thinking about, you know, the rest of the year on the new luxury, and then maybe also talk about as we lap the EVs, compare what, anything to think about there.

Yeah, so I'll touch on the last comment you made relative to EVs. So, if you look Q1 this year versus Q1 of 2025, our EV sales were down 61% this year compared to last year. And certainly out in our West Coast in California, there's still a certain level of demand for the BEVs. And so the consumer out there, we haven't completely replaced that with hybrids or ICE. So that was a tough compare year over year. We thought that the Iran conflict would drive some near-term or short-term demand in BEVs that we just haven't see materialized. So that escalation in fuel prices hasn't overcome the consumer's concerns about, you know, battery electric vehicles, either from a range or infrastructure charging perspective. And so I don't see really a material change occurring in BEVS, the balance of this year. You know, I think it's kind of stabilized post the tax credit going away in that four to five percent of the overall you know retail uh retail sales market so then coming back to the luxuries you mentioned uh or someone did earlier that the tough compares certainly in march uh you know we were to 17.6 million sar april was it at 17 million and uh so we've got some tough tough comps um year over year you know you look at the the premium luxury market you know certainly the the the sales are a little bit uh down in in those brands if i look at you know audi in q1 was down about 30 percent overall as they're you know launching some new new models that need to come into the marketplace bmw about 15 percent you know porsche with the macon going away we knew that this year next year until they relaunch um that model will be a little more more challenging so were down about 18% with them, and Mercedes, about the same as BMW, down about 15% overall. The good news, I would say, is that the OEMs have now adjusted to what the tariff impact is going to be on their business. Certainly, I think they were holding back money on incentives and programs, certainly in the latter half of last year, I'd say they're back in the market. I wouldn't say the incentives were great, but they're good. And the products they're producing are still very desirable. We tend these annual dealer meetings, and every single one of them has a bevy of new products that are going to be launching in the market this year that I think are going to be highly desirable. So I think from a model mix and brand mix, you know, with our 72% premium luxury, we're still in a good position there.

And anything to call out with service and parts with respect to warranty that you're lapping stop sales, especially on the luxury side?

So, you know, our fixed gross overall was up about 3.5%. We talked about the impact from the storms. you know an encouraging nugget in there is our customer pay ROs you know what we talked about that last couple calls we've been really focused on that segment too and uh you know the recalls they continue to happen so if you look at um Toyota they increased the uh the Tundra recall on engines to the 23 and 24 model year units BMW's got a starter recall that was recently announced, and then Audi on their three-liter engine has piston replacements, which is about a 30-hour job, and then we're doing a proactive software campaign, too, on the Q5 product. So, look, I know the OEMs would prefer not to have these recalls, but they continue to have quality leakage into the marketplace.

Excellent. Well, thanks very much. and best of luck in 2Q. Take care, Roger.

Thanks, Jeff.

Your next question comes from the line of John Babcock with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Hey, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions.

Just a quick one on the truck market. I know you're expecting an increase in truck orders, particularly in the second half. Just curious on the sustainability. I mean, I'm sure there's probably a portion of the truck demand that's probably driven by expectations for higher prices, you know, with some of the regulatory changes. So, I'm just kind of curious if you think this is something that, you know, you think is long-term sustainable truck demand, or is this something that you think is temporarily driven by some of the short-term factors like regulations?

I certainly think there is some short-term influence on the truck orders, similar to what we saw with lack of truck orders in Q3, Q4 last year, John. I think once there was some finality on what the EPA 27 guidelines were going to look like and customers could understand what the rule set was going to be. You know, that's what drove the order intake here in the first part of this year, as Roger quoted, up 91% on Class 8. I also think, you know, we had a near term bump in particular for Premier Truck Group with tariff announcements in February. And so there was a grace period that was granted to customers that if they placed orders by the end of uh or sorry by the beginning of march they could avoid that tariff price increase which was between a thousand and fifteen hundred dollars depending on heavy duty um or medium duty uh and then there's some some things structurally that i think have been going on that we've talked about you know for the last 18 months with uh uh the administration right the department of Transportation and FMCSA have really been cracking down on illegal carriers and non-domiciled CDL holders, and that has had an effect of tightening capacity. You see that in the spot rates up 30% to 40% year over year, and that's driving higher utilization of, say, the legal operators on the road, and we're seeing that manifest itself in our parts and service revenue up just over 4% in that business. And that's the first time in six quarters that we've seen a growth in our fixed gross profit there. And then when you look at the freight rates increasing, we're seeing that drive near-term used truck demand as well. So our volume sales are trending upward there, and our gross profit, as you see on the quarter, was up almost $4,000. So, and I think if you look, if you follow any of the publics, you know, J.B. Hunt, Covenant Transport, that have reported, they would reiterate that they feel that the changes are structural and not temporary in nature.

All right. All that color. Now, just on the M&A side of things, you know, you've increased exposure to Texas, Toyota, and Lexus recently. But on a go-forward basis, you know, should we think about expanding brands? Are there certain geographies you want to tack on to? Also, how are you balancing that with leverage? And, you know, what's your comfort level in terms of leverage right now?

Well, I think our leverage gives us all sorts of opportunity, point number one. Point number two, we're sitting with 70-plus percent premium luxury and 21 or 22 percent volume foreign, and we're focusing, obviously, on a mix of our business in those particular areas probably more critically in looking for opportunities. I think our goal, obviously, is to maintain, as Shelly said, our dividend, you know, our buyback and our CapEx. We think by eliminating some of the stores that we have have allowed us to reduce our CapEx, hopefully, by $100 million this year. And that's going to give us the opportunity to continue to focus. I would say internationally, we've also done some pruning of our businesses there. I think at the end of the day, you know, we're focusing on investments in Australia, in the defense area, in the power system and power generation. So the good thing is we have such diversification. Then obviously, the returns that we're getting from Premier Truck Group, they're Freightliner business, they're market share leaders, and we'd be looking for other locations, you know, in the U.S. and Canada to represent them, because those have been turned out to be quite good. And I think what's key is we'll look right now, like the stores we did in Orlando, the right brand, certainly the right location and profitability. So I think we have the luxury of not being in a hurry. When you put $2 billion of revenue on, now we've got to continue to integrate those into our company which i think we're doing well and we'll again look for ones with a brand look at look at tire and alexis right now the lowest day supply of the industry are we talking under 20 days when you think about it some of the lexus stores under 10 and they could continue to keep the product tight and and that to me is going to be critical and they're saying that's where they're going to operate in the future and we're getting some of that already also when you look at Land Rover you look at Porsche in our business is down not because we're down it's because of supply of the vehicles we want and that's being impacted by tariffs etc so we're going to be cautious and there will be people that are confused out there to own these businesses some of the smaller operators if they're contiguous to our circles you know we're going to pounce all over those if we can that's a long answer I'm sorry yeah no thanks that's perfect appreciate it your next question comes from the line of mike albanese with stone x please go ahead hey guys thanks for uh taking my question um could you guys just comment on what you saw in q1 regarding chinese models and taking share in international markets and then you know is there a house view on how you think about the implications

to premium luxury, and, I mean, do you think about leaning into, you know, building exposure with these models or just kind of continue to take it slow and monitor?

Let's let Randall, the expert on, in fact, just came back from the auto show in China, so he's most current that we have on the phone. But not to give what we're doing, what we're seeing in the U.K. and Europe.

Yeah, Mike, so, you know, obviously the Chinese brands are gaining share, In fact, you know, the markets that were in UK, Italy, and Germany, they've more than doubled. In fact, if you look at Australia last year, the Chinese brands were 15% in year-to-date this year through the first quarter, they're up to 23%. So we've put our toe in the water in the U.K. and in Germany, starting really effectively the beginning of the year. We started late last year, but this is our first full quarter. We've got 11 locations between the U.K. and Germany right now, four different brands. And I would say, first of all, our strategy has been to put these brands into existing facilities. so in the uk we have our sitner select which is our big box used car retail so we're able to put the brand uh there you know with a call it a minimal ci spend and we're in business so we don't have additional fixed expense we can sweat the asset a little bit more but you know frankly first blush so far has been uh has been um has been positive you know we're going to take a walk before run approach um you know in these big box used car retail we get about 400 guests per week so you know these chinese oems are eager to partner with us more so you know that's one of the reasons i went to the auto show is really to understand the difference between these brands you can't just throw an umbrella say chinese brands just like any western brands that each of them have to their pros and cons. So, look, we're going to expand where it makes sense, but we're going to be, let's say, eyes wide open, cautious as we do it.

Great. Thank you. And then I'll probably just follow up to that.

It probably matters brand by brand, as you alluded to, but could you just comment on what you're saying in terms of unit profitability on these vehicles? yeah it's look at it it differs slightly i would say in the uk geely and cherry have both been good to deal with uh you know one concern like with any brand got to make sure they don't over inventory that they're not going to over deal or the market you know because then it's just a race to the bottom and the other challenge you think about you open a brand new store standalone you don't have any fixed operations so you know instead of running at 75 fixed absorption at zero right at the beginning now over time that will increase but that's you know that's up to get a return on that investment so and then in germany we have byd and mg and and we just started those so it's i would say it's too early to tell i'd say when you look at the margins uh in the big boxes we're probably getting a couple thousand pounds more on the chinese brands than we are with our use vehicles we're selling in the same store so right now it could be christmas we don't know what's going to happen as we as we go forward but look at the products good we're not seeing any consumer push back the mix has been about 50 retail 50 fleet obviously they're going to put some in fleet to seed the market and get some volume up and open awareness in the marketplace but you know i i think their approach has been sensible overall again as a dealer you just caution not to that they don't saturate the market okay and then just my last question on this front.

Is there anything we should be thinking about in terms of implications on after sales with these brands? I mean, is it the same process, getting them in the service lanes and the same, you know, general RO that you would get on premium luxury? Yeah, go ahead.

Look, it's a good question more from the standpoint of, hey, are they prepared and hence are we prepared you know that we've got all the right safety stock from a parts standpoint that when the customer does come in that we can handle them efficiently so that's one big message i had with these oems as i met with them and and they seem to understand that we haven't had any challenges yet but it's been so minimal mike relative to the number of customers we've had come in uh you know i can't say dollar per repair order but one thing is these cars have seven year warranty on it so we think you know the customer is going to be stickier rather rather rather than having a three or four year warranty they'll keep coming back well thanks guys we don't know what

the used car buyer is going to be no that's and then also uh is the captive finance companies you know which which lead the browns around the world that have the best captive finance are the ones that we see are best for us so right now they're using banks and other things in order to support it and they will buy down the rate to be competitive in the market so those are all things and we don't have units in operation that's why randall decided we're going to do it we're going to put it in places where we all or we already have revenue and we have a parts and services just a different car goes on the lift on the morning versus those select locations where we have full fixed operations in each of them so it's again we're just we're utilizing our assets

better.

We're trying them in a different market. What's going on in Germany versus what's happening in the UK. You might talk a little bit about Australia. Yeah, from a Chinese standpoint? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, look, we don't have any Chinese brands there now, but like I said, it's up to 23%, and that's one market where Australia's pinched a little bit more with lack of fuel. They've only got two refineries there, so they're dependent on import so their fuel price went up more than most countries and they've seen significant increase in bev sales along with the chinese sales so you know think about it they went from 15 to 23 percent in just one quarter and those customers now are getting a taste of the quality of those brands so it's you know it's a disruptor for sure your next question comes from the line of Daniella Haggian with Morgan Stanley.

Please go ahead.

Hi, Daniella.

Hi, thank you for taking the question. So switching gears a little bit to a more thematic question, the trend of energy and autos converging on a global scale is getting a lot of interest from investors. Could you speak a little bit about your Australia-New Zealand segment and any opportunity there?

Well, thanks, Danielle it's Randall again so first of all let's say you know the energy businesses is vital you know across the world but particularly in Australia the data center of businesses is exploding and we have a 75 percent market share in data center backup power for the power range of 1250 kilowatt and higher which the majority of them are so that's just you know our business pipeline there is extremely strong we're very tight with numerous customers and that's good news the bad news with that is you sell the engine and it sits there right you go you do maintenance on it once a month but it doesn't run so you don't have that after sales annuity so where we're focused is to continue to grow our prime power strategy and units in operation so as an example you know four years ago we built a power station with our bergen engines in the northwest of australia which for our biggest mining customer 175 megawatt stations 15 engines 20 cylinders per engine these are massive engines 18 liters per cylinder these are and these run seven to eight thousand hours a year and so we're in the cycle right now after they got this commissioned where the 16,000 hour maintenance interval, you have to take the heads off and remanufacture them. We have all that capability and expertise to remanufacture these heads in country as part of Penske Australia. So out for those 15 engines or 300 cylinder heads, that's about 15,000 hours worth of work.

So our strategy is to do more, get more units in operation that our prime power and we've got that whole vertical strategy and approach and solution for those customers in the market so it's a key strategy without a doubt for us great thank you your next question comes from the line of alex perry with bank of america please go ahead hey alex hey guys thanks for uh taking my questions here and uh congrats on the strong quarter um i wanted to ask about the outlook uh in the uk sort of x the chinese brands sort of um you know sort of the core outlook in the uk and then just one one piece on the chinese brands are you expecting to can i know you said earlier you're going to take a measured approach there but will you continue to add doors there so um just wanted to get your thoughts on the uk sort of um you know outside of what's going on with the Chinese brands?

Yeah, I think we're going to be measured is the right word, but it was interesting, again, meeting with all these OEMs and understanding the strengths and what some of their strategies are and how that aligns with our strategies. I think we'll continue to evaluate two things. Number one, which brands make most sense to continue to partner with? and number two where we have available facility infrastructure again with the strategy of saying we already have it let's put it there and uh you know because again with the lack of units in operation you don't have that after sales so you know the cost to get in is minimal and then look at we're going to as usual be good partners with these brands and want to grow and help them understand the market better but they're going to limit us based on overdeering yeah and we start to see what the discounting is because we don't we don't want to handle vehicle can't make any correct correct yep that makes a lot of sense and then just on inventory levels across the network

more broadly um can you just talk about you know how you feel about inventory levels it sounds like you know there's certain brands toward alexis where you're light um anywhere you you think you're over at inventory, and then in the brands that you're light, you know, how much do you think that that's sort of restricting the sales velocity in any line of sight into those improving?

Yeah, Alex, Rich here, so I'll speak to the U.S., and then Randall can cover internationally. Just as a topside from an overall perspective, on new, we ended the quarter at 43 days, and on used, you know 33 days and the new compared to 52 days a year ago so we're down from a day supply standpoint you know nine days you know you've got to look at both the the day supply and the model mix within the inventory that you have by brand and so even though we would say that Toyota Lexus you know, it's great from a day supply standpoint. We would prefer to have, you know, maybe more RAV4s in that inventory and less Tundras as an example. You know, so you got to look at it from both perspectives, but certainly, you know, they are the healthiest in maintaining that supply versus demand balance. We talked last year, you know, we felt Honda maybe overproduced a little bit and our day supply crept up there you know they had a plant closure earlier uh this year that this has got them back more in line um you know and then we've still got to balance the bev mix in there you know we've seen that uh come back up you know after the uh uh the tax credit went away at the end of september and we had that sell through we were down to 12 days supply on bev We're up to 78 days supply now, you know, and so that's higher than certainly our overall new car averages and certainly higher than we would, you know, want it to be. And then I think from a used perspective, we would prefer to have more used right now. There is demand in the used car market, but we've been disciplined again on our sourcing of used cars. we could go out and buy more used cars but it would have the the counter effect of lowering our grosses you know on the other side of the the ledger so we've we've stayed within our wheelhouse of zero to four year old used cars um you know not going up market in the eight plus you know year range for used cars so that's that's a little bit of color on the us so ramble yeah look at very similar in the uk our new car supply is 40 days and you know give you an idea the lowest day supplies land rover at 35 days and the highest is audi at 45 days so the you know the band's pretty

small with all the brands in between and then our used car supplies 42 days similar to the us it's difficult now but i would say our team in the uk has done a fantastic job with acquisition of used in proper appraisals, the available gross we have in our used cars right now is as best it's been in months. So anyway, we feel we're in very good shape.

That's incredibly helpful. Best of luck going forward.

Thanks, Alex. Thanks. Thanks, Alex.

Your next question comes from the line of David Whiston with Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon. Hey there.

On service bay utilization you talked about it being i think 84 so i was just curious uh what prevents that from being uh not being 100 is it purely labor shortages or other variables yeah there's there's it's a combination of of techs you know because that is a measure of tech ratio to bays and so our tech count is up three percent uh our guys will tell you we you don't want and we're probably never going to have a hundred percent bay utilization because in order to achieve that you'd need that to randall's comments earlier have every part you need at the time you need it and invariably uh that's that's never the case and so you've uh you're in process of having a car torn down waiting on a part that's tying up a bay or you've in the case of battery electric vehicles you've got a flat bay and you you need a bay next to it um to reinstall the battery so we feel pretty good at 84 percent you know we probably can tick that up a few percentage points more but um you with the flexibility we need for the type of work we do growing north of 90 percent would be would be a challenge yeah i think rich also in these bigger jobs where we're taking engines out of tundras and things like that you almost need a second bay next next year operating bay in order to be able to do the work so that it's flexible but we

are put it in perspective we're adding we're going to a hundred bays at Longo Toyota in in California we're building a new full dealership with a hundred bays in Hutto Texas outside of Austin and we're adding we're adding another 30 beige to central florida title will get us to almost 100 so you know our our commitment because the units in operation for this brand make this a grill opportunity to talk about where growth will be and you know depending if it's warranty look we like the warranty work but the customer comes back because he's got a car that's not in for warranty every day so i think that's key and that's where Toyota in many cases leads the market and there's no question that our biggest push when we talk about investment is some of the showroom capex that's required because in many cases that means we've got to tear up our buildings. We just did this in San Diego at Lexus and we spent like almost a year you know new furniture etc etc. I think it's done great but we have to go further than that this is some of the questions that we have today what is the store making what's the expectation of the oem and we're pushing back to them in a good way trying to explain to them we need to spend more in parts of service let's make the showroom smaller let's put more cars outside and work on more inside i know it's opposite of what the thinking is but you know we have bill brown ford number one ford dealer in the country we could put three cars in the showroom and they sold 600 cars this month you know and I and work what are we doing we're expanding the service so there is no question the back end and that's why we like Rich's business and then premium truck what are you 120 130 percent fit coverage it's a premier truck yeah we're 127 127 so how many trucks you have in in the showroom. You got zero. All right. Sorry for getting off base, David.

Thank you. That does conclude our question and answer session. And I would now like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Penske for closing comments.

Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next quarter.

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