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Thank you for standing by, and at this time, I would like to welcome everyone to today's Provident Financial Services third quarter earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Once again, star one. And if you'd like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. I would now like to turn the call over to Adriano Duarte. head of investor relations. Adriano.
Thank you, Greg. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our third quarter earnings call. Today's presenters are President and CEO, Tony Lavazeta, and Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Tom Lyons. Before beginning the review of our financial results, we ask that you please take note of our standard caution as to any forward-looking statements that may be made during the course of today's call.
Our full disclaimer is contained in last evening's earnings release which has been posted to the investor relations page on our website provident.bank now it's my pleasure to introduce tony lavazzetta who will offer his perspective on the third quarter tony thank you adriano and welcome everyone to the provident financial services earnings call i'm happy to share providence third quarter results today which demonstrated continued strong performance and advancement on several strategic initiatives looking back over Over the past 12 months, we have made notable progress driving consistent and diversified growth while also improving operational efficiency across our entire organization. Our hardworking team remains focused, contributing to our strong results by expanding our loan portfolio and pipeline, broadening our deposit base, and driving record revenues for the second consecutive quarter. during the quarter we reported net earnings of approximately 72 million or 55 cents per share which is consistent with the previous quarter our annualized return on average assets was 1.16 percent and our adjusted return on average tangible equity was 16.01 percent while we are pleased with the bottom line metrics we are even more energized by the meaningful improvement in pre-tax, pre-provision revenues during the third quarter, which grew to a record of nearly $109 million. Our pre-tax, pre-provision return on average assets of 1.76% has improved substantially compared to the 1.64% in the prior quarter and 1.48% for the same quarter last year. We believe this improvement serves as a good indicator that we have consistently enhanced the underlying profitability of our business, even as we have accelerated and diversified our loan growth. One of our primary areas of strategic focus continues to be deposits, and during the quarter, our deposits increased $388 million, or an annualized rate of 8%. It is worth noting that this growth was primarily driven by core deposits, which increased $291 million, or 7.5%, annualized. We continue to remain focused on efficiently funding our strong commercial loan growth and have made investments in people and capabilities to support quality deposit growth over the intermediate term. Switching to loans, during the third quarter, our commercial lending team closed approximately $742 million in new loans, bringing our production year-to-date to $2.1 billion. As a result, our commercial portfolio grew at an annualized rate of 5%, driven primarily by C&I production. Our strong capital formation, combined with the growth and diversification of our loan portfolio has reduced our Cree concentration ratio to 402% if adjusted for the merger-related purchase accounting marks. This compares favorably to the 408% in the prior quarter. Our loan pipeline grew appreciably to nearly $2.9 billion with a weighted average interest rate of approximately 6.15% as of quarter end. The pull-through adjusted pipeline, including loans pending closing is approximately 1.7 billion we are proud and encouraged by the loan team's performance and the strength of our pipeline as we approach the final stages of 2025. while we have worked hard to grow and diversify our loan pipeline our commitment to managing credit risk and generating top quartile risk adjusted returns has remained unchanged non-performing assets improved three basis points to 0.41%, which compares favorably to our peers. We also saw a decline in non-approval loans during the third quarter, while our net charge-offs were only $5.4 million. Overall, we remain very comfortable with our credit position and our underwriting standards, and we continue to look for the risk-appropriate opportunities to grow our business. We believe it is worth reiterating that our exposure to rent-stabilized multifamily properties in New York City is modest at $174 million, or less than 1% of total loans, all of which are performing. Additionally, our credit exposure to non-depository financial institutions is limited to $292 million of mortgage warehouse loans. We are comfortable with the credit structure of these loans including the controls we have in place to minimize risk furthermore the customers we deal with are established and well-known counterparties to our bank another area of strategic focus is growing non-interest income which performed well during the quarter during the third quarter property protection plus continues to drive consistent growth in our non-interest income with revenues up 6.1 percent when compared to the same quarter last year while normal seasonality drove a step down in revenues when compared to the link quarter we remain optimistic about the high level of business activity occurring on our insurance platform beacon trust saw revenue growth in the third quarter increasing to 7.3 million we are excited to announce that beacon's new chief growth officer anna marie vitelli joined us in september and will bring her demonstrate demonstrated track record of driving strategic growth to expand Beacon's market presence and deepen client relationships. We also continue to invest in our SBA capabilities, which have been a steadier contributor to non-interest income in 2025, generating 512,000 gains on sale in the third quarter. Year-to-date, we have generated 1.8 million of SBA gains on sale, which is up from 451,000 in the comparable period last year. While our total assets have grown 3% year-to-date, our strong and consistent profitability continues to build Providence capital position, which comfortably exceeds well-capitalized levels. As such, this morning, our Board of Directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.24 per share, payable on November 28. I'd like to conclude my remarks by emphasizing how proud we are to see the results of careful planning and hard work translate into continued strong performance in the third quarter. None of these accomplishments would be possible without the dedication and commitment of our employees.
We will continue to execute our key strategic initiatives aimed at sustaining growth in our core business, while simultaneously making the necessary investments on our platform to ensure provident is well prepared for the future now i'd like to turn it over to tom for his comments on the financial performance tom thank you tony and good afternoon everyone as tony noted we reported net income of 72 million dollars or 55 cents per share for the quarter with a return on average assets of 1.16 percent adjusting to the amortization of intangibles our core return on average tangible equity was 16.01 for the quarter pre-tax pre-provision earnings for the current quarter increased nine percent over the trailing quarter to a record 109 million dollars or an annualized 1.76 percent of average assets revenue increased to a record 222 million dollars for the quarter driven by record net interest income of 194 million and non-interest income of 27.4 million average earning assets increased by 163 million or an annualized three percent versus the trailing quarter with the average yield on assets increasing eight basis points to 5.76 percent. Our reported net interest margin increased seven basis points versus the trailing quarter to 3.43 while our core net interest margin increased one basis point. The company maintains a largely neutral interest rate risk position but anticipates future benefits of the core margin from recent Fed rate cuts and expected steepening of the yield curve. We currently project the NIM in the 338 to 345% range in the fourth quarter. Our projections include another 25 basis point rate reduction in December of 2025. Period end loan sales for investment increased 182 million or an annualized 4% for the quarter, driven by growth in mortgage warehouse and other commercial and multifamily loans, partially offset by reductions in construction and residential mortgage loans. Total commercial loans grew by an annualized 5% for the quarter. our pull through adjusted loan pipeline at quarter end was 1.7 billion the pipeline rate of 615 is accretive relative to our current portfolio yield of 6.09 percent period end deposits increased 388 million for the quarter or an annualized eight percent while average deposits increased 470 million or an annualized 10 percent versus the trailing quarter the average cost of total deposits increased four basis points to 2.14% this quarter, while the total cost of funds increased one basis point to 2.44%. Asset quality remains strong, with non-performing assets declining to 41 basis points of total assets. Net charge-offs were 5.4 million, or an annualized 11 basis points of average loans this quarter, while year-to-date net charge-offs were just six basis points of average loans. Current quarter charge-offs reflected the resolution of several non-performing loans and the write-off of related specific reserves. Our provision for credit losses increased to $7 million for the quarter as a result of growth in loans and commitments and minor deterioration in our CECL economic forecast. Our allowance coverage ratio was 97 basis points of loans at September 30th. Non-interest income increased to $27.4 million this quarter with solid performance realized from poor banking fees, insurance and wealth management as well as gains on SBA loan sales. Non-interest expenses were well managed with 113 million with expenses to average assets totaling 1.83 percent and the efficiency ratio improving to 51 percent for the quarter. Excluding the amortization of intangibles and the related average balance, months, these ratios were 1.73% and 46.72% respectively. We project quarterly quarter operating expenses of approximately $113 million for the final quarter of 2025. Our sound financial performance supported earning asset growth and drove strong capital formation. Tangible book value per share increased $0.53 or 3.6% this quarter to $15.13 and our tangible common equity ratio improved to 8.22% from 8.03% last quarter. That concludes our prepared remarks. We'd be happy to respond to questions.
And at this time, I would like to remind everyone, if you would like to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your touchtone keypad. Once again, star one. And we will pause just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Okay, looks like our first question today comes from the line of Tim Switzer with KBW. Tim, please go ahead.
Hey, thank you for taking my questions. Hope you guys are doing well.
Thanks, Tim.
My first question is, on the margin, I think you guys have, you know, I understand kind of the interest rate impacts on the floating rate book in your deposits there, but I think you guys also have quite a bit of loan back book repricing as well. Can you maybe update us on, you know, the quantity of loans that are fixed rate repricing over the next 12 months or so, and then what kind of uplift you would expect on the yields just at current rates?
I think I can give it to you in pieces, Tim. The total repricing is just under $6 billion, say $5.9 billion. Within that, the floating book is about $4,950,000,000. So the balance is either longer-term adjustable repricing in the period or fixed rate.
Got you.
And do you have kind of like what the blended yield is on that fixed rate and adjustable portion i do not i know i mean the margin projection reflects all of that so you can see the increase based on the expected new on rates the 615 that's in the port in the pipeline um but i don't have it at my fingertips the current portfolio rate for that piece that segment gotcha okay um and there's been some discussion on other conference calls about increasing loan competition on pricing.
Could you maybe discuss what you've seen in your markets and then kind of dissect that between CNI and then the CRE market?
Sure. Yeah, I think that's a fair statement that we've seen some increased competition in the lending market for sure, mostly on the CRE side with what the uh either the private space or insurance the agencies are doing um in fact some of our we had about 348 million dollars of payoffs this quarter some of that had to do with that some of it had to do with with loans just selling um so but on the cni side we're not seeing the same level of competition that we are in the cree side but i would say it's a fair statement to say overall all, the competition has grown stronger. However, I would like to end that by saying that our team is still building a pipeline that's kind of record high at 2.9 billion. So, you know, in our pull through, I say we're closing about 65% of the things we touch. So those are good consistent metrics for us. You know, we're careful about what the economy looks like. You know, we're doing good loans to good sponsors under good terms. But we're aware that there's some pricing competition or structure competition out there.
Yeah, that's helpful. And if I get one more follow-up, could you maybe add some color on how some of your new specialty verticals like ABL and healthcare are contributing to the loan growth?
I think as we might have mentioned on the written comments, prepared comments, was this quarter, the C&I reflected most of our growth, which includes healthcare, ABL warehouse lending did very well for us this quarter. In fact, those were all double-digit growth in some of those categories, where our CRE was relatively stable because of some of the prepayments, unanticipated prepayments, which we saw was in that class. So again, those those are good that's the areas that we we are strategically focused on scaling up we're doing it very well we're very proud of that we have the good teams to handle that um it's also driving a good result on our creek concentration ratio as i mentioned um so it's having all the strategic effects that we we desired um if creed kicks up i think this quarter uh while i said that loans grew 5%. The effective production would have been somewhere around seven, seven plus, if the prepayments were not there in the crease space. So I'm pretty proud of the productivity this bank has right now. And our focus will continue on those verticals, which we put inflate strategically. We expect them to be high single double digit growth because the scale of of that book is not substantial so all the productivity is going to be substantial and while Cree will run in that five percent space.
Tim, the other thing I could add if it helps with the projected loan mix is the pipeline breakdown. Commercial real estate represents about 42 percent of the pipeline. The specialty lending category which includes the ABL and healthcare you're referring to is about 14 percent.
There's five percent in resi and consumer and the balance is the other commercial loan categories, middle market and other commercial lending. all right got it um thanks for taking my question sure very good thanks tim and our next question comes from the line of feddy strickland with hobbie betty please go ahead hey good afternoon everybody um just wanted to touch on interest income you know the guide seems to imply about a one million uh dollar step down link quarter um is that just an expectation of lower loan prepayment fees plus maybe some seasonality on insurance?
Yeah, you got it, Freddie. It's maybe a little conservatism in there as well, but the prepayment fees, again, subject to some volatility. They're about $1.7 million this quarter, so we scaled that back, but who knows what we'll see. Personally, I'd rather hold the loan and leave the fees out. But yeah, that and the seasonality in the fourth quarter is not necessarily the strongest for insurance. We see I'm sorry, well, going into Q4 or Q1 is where we see the pickups, right?
And I guess along the same line with non-interested income, can you talk about the opportunity on the wealth side as we enter 26 and whether you're working to bring on additional talent there?
Well, absolutely. As I mentioned on a call, you know, we've hired Anna Vitelli. You know, she's the chief growth officer. She's building, she's charged with growing and service and retainage of, in a way of extraordinary service in that space and deeply integrating it with the bank. So we think there's a lot of great opportunity. Anna will build out, you know, her needs, adding more sales and production staff and organizing herself in a fashion that will give us the things that we're looking for. But certainly, these investments are aimed at, you know, one, growing new AUM and deepening connections that we have within the organization already.
Got it. And just one more quick one for me on capital. Just hoping to get your updated thoughts on, you know, how do you think about capital and about deployment via dividends versus buybacks versus organic growth while still managing the CRE concentration piece as well?
Yeah, I think our first preference remains organic growth at profitable levels. And, again, recognizing the strength of our pipeline, that's where our energy has been focused. That said, we are at comfortable levels of capital now. We're close to 1190, I think, on CET1 at the bank level. So there's opportunities for us there. We certainly think we're trading at an attractive price at this point. with regard to dividend we kind of like to get back to a 40 percentage payout ratio somewhere in the 40 to 45 percent rate so I think that's when we look at that more carefully the other thing is we're in the middle of budget season here which is why you know we didn't give a lot of forward guidance we want to wait till January to give everybody a full year update but that'll help inform our capital decisions as well as we get more confidence around our asset growth and capital formation projections all right great thanks for the color I'll step back All right.
Thanks, Betty. And our next question comes from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate.
Dave, please go ahead. Afternoon, and appreciate you taking my questions.
Just wanted to start with some of the decrease in deposit costs and maybe get your thoughts on how much more room there might be to run here and what that looks like from a competitive landscape. decrease in deposit costs um well we saw growth in non-interest bearing which was helpful to us the overall cost of funds was only up one basis point to 244 this quarter so there was a little bit of shift in mix while deposit costs were up it was still at an attractive rate in terms of funding advantage relative to the wholesale borrowings so that's really what we try to manage obviously is the overall cost of funds um that all said we do have you know we had the fed rate cut at the end of September the 17th, I think it was, and then this most recent one yesterday, I guess. So we're going to see the benefit of both of those cuts in Q4. The September cut was effective October 1st, and the most recent cut will be effective November 1st. In terms of beta overall, I think we conservatively model something in the 30 to 35 percent range on deposits.
So that's very helpful. Thank you. And then just one more, if I could. It looks like your efficiency ratio is hovering right around that 50 mark. Curious as to how much of a push there is to get that under 50 and maybe what that would entail?
I don't think it's necessarily a push, but rather our desire to continue to make prudent investments and build for the future. So I think where we are is a really attractive level. If you look at a pure overhead management, the OPEX ratio at 183, and that's inclusive of some fairly significant and tangible amortization is really quite well managed. So I don't know that there's a lot of room we're going to look to take down on that, just because I think there's investments that we want to continue to make to support growth.
I would argue that, you know, we've been steadily making the requisite investments in our business to build up the platform for our future. The efficiency ratio, we will see that come down further by enhanced revenue opportunities. And then you might see a blip up with further investments. And I know, you know, obviously, we'll get the positive operating leverage, and you'll see it move back down. And that's kind of the trend we've been watching, but I think Tom says it's in this area. It can go down another point if we're building the revenue base, and then that doesn't factor in future investments.
Yeah, Tony made a really good point. I was focused on the expense side, but I think the revenue opportunities are there. You saw two consecutive quarters of nice growth and record levels for us. We do project poor margin expansion over the next several quarters of, say, in the three to five basis point range each quarter so i and and again we talked about some of the investments that we hope to see returns on in the in the fee-based businesses over the course of the next year so a lot of room there that's great commentary thank you for taking my questions and good luck with you four thank you thanks dave and our next question comes from the line of gregory zingoni with piper sandler gregory please go ahead hey guys good afternoon hey how are you Good.
How are you? Quick question. How frequently are you bumping into private credit firms nowadays? I'm sorry, Greg.
Could you say that again? We have difficulty hearing you.
I asked, how frequent are you bumping into private credit firms nowadays?
We know that's out there. It's not really been a factor for us at all. Most of the business we're doing is relational. So clients are not that reticent to go to private credit for one transaction, knowing that the whole relationship is important to them and us. So again, we're very cognizant of it being out there and the scale of it. However, it has not been a factor in us building our pipeline or getting our deals closed.
Awesome. And at first glance, your average fee and wealth management of 72 base seems kind of high. Have you felt any pressure on pricing recently?
I wouldn't say recently. It has actually come down. I can remember us being as high as 77 basis points probably two years ago or so, but it's been pretty stable. Sorry.
Go ahead, Greg. I was going to ask on top of that, where are new relationships coming on today?
I would say similar levels because it has remained steady at 72 basis points for quite a few quarters now.
And then lastly for us, M&A picking up in the industry, it seems like a pretty good time to ask you guys, what are you looking for in your next potential acquisitional target?
Well, I would actually answer the M&A question a little bit differently, right? So I think our primary focus here is on the organic growth strategies that we outlined. We're pretty excited about, you know, the build outs and our advancement into the middle market space. We think there's a huge opportunity for us to create shareholder value and one that we think is most relevant. You know, that being said, we're always evaluating, you know, opportunities that might be out there. I think we've proven that we have great merger DNA. We can get stuff done. We have the right platform to do that. We'd love to see our currency trade at a place where it's more reflective of what we're worth. So we'll always evaluate opportunities from every direction. But it's a wonderful place to have the optionality. And we're creating that by having an organic growth and focusing there first.
All right. Greg. And our next question comes from the line of Stephen Moss with Raymond James. Stephen, please go ahead. Good afternoon, guys.
Maybe just good. Maybe just starting on, you know, purchase accounting here. I realize it's probably elevated from the prepays this quarter, but curious as to how you guys are thinking about that going forward. And, you know, also on the subject of prepays, just kind of curious, do you think those will continue to be elevated in the near term? Or do we, you know, from the fee income comment, we're going to moderate down to more typical levels?
I think the prepays, usually, you know, if we look at past trends, the third quarter seems to have a heightened pickup, which is the summer months. We expect that to normalize. And, you know, maybe $150 to $200 million range, I would say, is more normalized. But you always have, in that number that I gave, there's a lot of businesses that sold as much as they, it wasn't a huge, huge number of refinancing elsewhere, probably 90 million of it refinanced elsewhere. So there's always going to be activities, companies selling, companies coming. We just have to have an organizational capacity to grow on a level to make up for that. But if I were to put a number on it, I would say 200, 150, 200 is probably a good place to be.
And with regard to purchase accounting, Steve, it i'd say our normal number runs about 40 to 45 basis points of the nim i would expect that to persist throughout the next uh four quarters okay great and then kind of on the theme of you know organic growth and hiring i heard you guys comments around the efficiency ratio just kind of curious you know how you guys are thinking about hiring for 2026 you know you've Definitely made a number of investments over the last 12-plus months. You know, kind of curious if there's maybe another step up in terms of bringing people over in the new year or just color around that.
Yeah, I mean, so, you know, I think we have a pretty good visual to our strategic planning process of what our needs are to give us the productivity in future years, particularly in areas of focus. It is our expectation that we'll continue to invest. If you look at what insurance does, we hire roughly 10 to 12 new producers every year to keep pace with that. We're expecting that to happen in the beacon space. Our commercial platform continues to hire not only in new geographies, but in verticals that we're investing deeper in. I would expect more investment in the middle market space for us next year. All of those things, we have clarity of what the positive operating leverage will be derived from that. So it is part of our process in terms of forecasting and strategic planning. We'll build all that out for you guys in the first quarter, and you'll get better clarity of the investments against the returns.
Okay, great. I really appreciate all of you here, and I'll step back. Thank you. Thanks, Steve.
And it looks like there are no further questions at this time, so I will now turn the call back over to Tony Labazzetta for closing comments.
Great. Thank you, everyone, for your questions and for joining the call. We hope everyone has an enjoyable end of the year and a holiday season. We look forward to speaking with you again soon. Thank you.
Thanks, Tony. And again, this concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Have a good day.
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