Rich Walsh

“I mean, the only thing I would add on is some of this is going to be driven, at least on a policy side, by impact to consumers, right? So if you think about the way we think about it, the rent is in the crack, and that ultimately gets, you know, pushed on to consumers.”

“You know, what I would say is, you know, we've had, there's been lots of conversations with the administration, and they're keenly aware of, you know, what they, you know, watching the prices out there.”

“You know, in terms of the Venetia idling, you know, we're executing our plan to safely idle it, the refinery operating units, that is, and, you know, it's a well-planned out and phased process.”

“I'll take an effort to answer at least the interaction with the government part of it. I mean we have been in discussions with California, but nothing has materialized out of that.”

“I mean, just to be clear, our current intent is to close the refinery. And, you know, obviously, there's been some initial concern from the state leadership and we've already had meetings with the CEC.”