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1974, Acuren created the standard for industrial asset integrity, inspection, testing, and certification for the industries the world depends on. For nearly 70 years, NV5 engineered the infrastructure, the data intelligence, and the environmental systems that shape how we build and plan. The companies grew in parallel. They solved different problems. And in 2025, they came together. As TIC Solutions, our purpose is clear. To shape and strengthen the physical world. We're the only scaled North American platform that unites inspection and mitigation, consulting engineering, and geospatial intelligence, covering every stage of the asset lifecycle. We operate where the stakes are highest, where aging infrastructure must perform without fail, where the energy transition must be engineered, built, and maintained, where industrial assets represent billions in capital and the safety of thousands of people. Our clients don't just need solutions. They need a partner to shape assets from the start and the rigor to ensure they hold. this is a company built on people 12 000 professionals who put people and safety first act with integrity and hold themselves to standards that create lasting value we don't just deliver solutions we build confidence in the assets our clients depend on and in the people who work alongside them we shape and strengthen the physical world From the first plan to the last inspection, and every critical moment in between. We are Tick Solutions.
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our investor day. I'm Andrew Shen, Director of Investor Relations, and I head up our Investor Relations function. Thank you for everyone joining in person, as well as over the webcast. I'd like to start with a safety moment. Please take a moment to locate the emergency exit nearest to you, and in the event of emergency, please follow the instructions of the venue staff. Please note that our statements today contain forward-looking statements as defined by the SEC. These statements contain inherent risks and uncertainties. Please see our SEC filings for further detail. I'd like to start with a moment on logistics. I ask the audience silence their cell phones laptops and tablets if you'd like to follow along on your own devices we've posted the presentation on our IR website we'll have a 10-minute break about halfway through the program rest rooms are located in the back of the room past the end of the hall we appreciate you spending time with us as we work towards building something special at tick solutions today's topics will include a discussion of our business strategic priorities and long-term financial framework we will then conclude with 30 minutes of Q&A and then the showcases and lunch will be open after the presentation you'll hear from members of our leadership team
throughout the program and we're pleased to have the full team here with us today and with that I'm pleased to introduce Robbie Franklin our executive chairman Robbie please join us on stage all right thanks Andrew thank you everyone for being here today and your support and interest in tick solutions starting out with our acquisition vehicle about three years ago it's it's pretty remarkable as I look around this room and sort of gives me chills looking at this video of sort of what we're building together so it's really exciting thank you for your support thank you for being here with us today as I think about sort of the evolution over the last two years we had a investment thesis to building another platform in the industrial services space coming off of our experience with API and some of the success we've had with Element Solutions and other industrial platforms. And I think today really represents the inaugural communication of some of that strategy and the opportunities that exist before us. I think everyone understands we're in this generational capital cycle and we have a platform here with TIC Solutions where we're really able to capitalize on some of these trends. So I'm really excited for the team to be able to communicate with you today and lay out the vision for where we see this company going in the future. We are in the process of building a unified kind of technology forward platform with a truly differentiated market strategy to where we might been two years ago when we when we acquired Acuren and the industrial logic of this combination is really just starting to come through and in our results and and the and the wins that we're achieving in the market and I think you should really hear from each of our team members who are presenting today but also this incredible deep bench of talent that we have in the back of the room and I encourage everybody if you get a moment to interact with the team hear about the things that they're working on and really start start to understand the business in a greater level of depth all the elements of this business really lead us to be a great long-term compounder of value and I think that really should resonate with us today where we are today it's sort of in line with the Mariposa playbook for any of you who've sort of followed us I think you'll really understand where we try to identify corners of the market with great value that are underappreciated that eventually roll into sort of growth areas of the market that are really fundamentally exciting and I think what you'll find here represents all of those things and we're just in the early days my family our board the leadership team and all and all of our team members here are excited are really genuinely excited to share the vision for TIC and tell you why and how we are going to win. The plan that we're presenting today is one that I know we can achieve. It's a commitment for us, and it's our guiding star. I'm very, very excited for everyone to really understand the strategic plan for our business. With that, I really want to hand the stage over to our leadership team, now helmed by Ben Harad. Ben has been an amazing resource for us, a great partner. I'm very excited for the entrepreneurship that's been sort of reinvigorated into our organization, the culture we are building, and he's done an amazing job so far and has all of our support. So with that, I'll hand the stage over to Ben.
Thanks, Robbie. I appreciate the kind introduction. Happy to have you all here today. Thank you and appreciate your continued interest in TIC Solutions. Myself and the team are really excited to get up here and sort of talk you through where we are today as a business and where we're headed. You know, if we think about the combination of bringing Accurant and MV5 together, it really, we've created a combined scale, integrated platform, and the services that we now have at our fingertips enable us to be a true lifecycle partner for our clients, which is just a really exciting opportunity to be bringing together. We're also positioned in markets that have significant tailwinds. So we'll talk about four key megatrends that exist in the market in a little bit more detail, but this really positions us for long-term sustained growth, and we have some strategies around how we're going to really position ourselves to continue to capture these tailwinds. We're going to talk about a clear path to margin expansion through our commercial discipline, improving our utilisation and productivity. and as we grow, as we continue to grow we'll get to benefit from our scale this is a CapEx light business, so we have very high free cash flow and that's really exciting because it enables us to invest that back into the business both through organic growth initiatives and through our bolt-on M&A strategy so you saw it on the video, but I wanted to come back to this quickly, we shape and strengthen the physical world Tal had a hand in this and we spent plenty of time bringing this together and we're really excited about having this brought out to the team. To shape really points to the creative side of the business where we're planning and designing and strengthen really points to our inspection and mitigation work where making the world a safer place, the systems that we work on more resilient. As we were working through this, we actually started out with the built environment. We shape and strengthen the built environment. However, it doesn't really capture everything that we do. If you look at what geospatial does, we actually map coastlines, mountains, forests. So physical world was sort of more all-encompassing. So something that we're very excited about bringing to the team. And it really enables the team also to articulate what we do to our clients very clearly. And a line is a common thread across the business. So in terms of common themes as well, I mean, we now operate the business under three segments. and you're going to hear from Alex, Kurt and Seamus and really they're going to do a deep dive into all the really cool things that we do within each of the segments. But I just wanted to point you to a common thread across all of these is that we have a very high recurring revenue stream and it's programmatic. And that obviously makes us very sticky with the clients and very long term. And just to use some examples for each of the segments within consulting and engineering as the engineer of record when we work on an asset, when we design it that positions us in a position of strength to continue to work on that asset for the long term. When a change is made, when a retrofit is done in a building or a road or a bridge, we are the ones that are positioned to continue to work on that asset for the life cycle of it. Within inspection and mitigation, our run and maintain business, we are nested at the site. We are there for the long term. We are part of the day-to-day operations and the decisions that have been made, and it is a very long-term reoccurring nature of the business. Geospatial, we fly nearly a million miles of power lines every year, and we do that over and over again for vegetation clash analysis. I can point to many other examples of recurring work that we do within geospatial, but it really does point to the recurring nature of the business and a pretty exciting statistic. So together, this platform is much stronger with these two companies. The sum of the parts is much greater than each individual business alone. You know, and I point again to being that true life cycle partner. If you could envisage a large, complex facility, it might be an airport, could be a refinery, could be a casino. Our ability to now plan and design that facility, oversee the construction, commission the systems as they come online, and be involved in the ongoing operations for the life of that asset is something that's pretty unique. And when you overlay our ability to now create a digital twin of that asset, pull real-time data out of it, and use that to inform the decisions that are made on the site every day, you couldn't really point to another company that has this breadth of capability right now. So both companies have a rich history and a proven track record of growth, both organic and through M&A. So while TIC Solutions is a new platform, it has made up a very rich heritage, and I would point to all the great leadership at the back of the room here and at the front, is a testament of that. I would point to the amazing projects that we work on and the clients that we have. So again, as I said, it's a relatively new platform but comes from very, very rich history. So we're well through the integration of the two businesses and I'd call out Kristen and the team for doing an amazing job of getting us to where we are with that today and it's starting to show up in real results. If we think about the two businesses, there really was very little operational overlap. So most of the integration is actually occurring at the shared services and corporate level. But in terms of those real results, we're starting to see it in the cross-selling. Dan's going to be talking in detail on a bit of that soon. And we're starting to see it show up in terms of actually bringing new services to existing clients. And what that does is it creates a more solid platform for us. When we bring a new service to an existing client, we've pushed out a competitor. And that solidifies the relationship with the client, it strengthens it, and it just makes us a more robust platform overall. I think this really paints a picture of the opportunity that we have as a company to grow geographically. We're very densified in North America right now. Our consulting engineering and geospatial business has almost no presence in Canada, where we're very strong on inspection and mitigation. Inspection and mitigation has no presence in the Middle East and within Asia Pacific. These are areas that we have systems in place and fantastic entrepreneurial leadership. And it really enables us to implement a land and expand strategy. So if we think about an example of this in the data center space, the data center business was really born out in Asia Pacific. And you'll be hearing from Gary and Keith up here who lead that business a little later on. We made a strategic initiative a few years ago to really push to get that business going in the U.S., and Andy, who's here too, is sort of leading the charge on the U.S. side. It was really landing and expanding that capability, the relationships we had with the hyperscalers, and bringing that back to the U.S., and if we look at the U.S. data center business now, it is actually growing at an extremely fast clip, and we'll catch up to our Asia-Pacific business, a little bit of challenge there, over the next couple of years. So we talked about scale. We're a $2.1 billion business, and we'll continue to grow. What bringing the businesses together has also done is diversified the platform. If we think of Acura and beforehand, the exposure to oil and gas was about 40%. Now it's 20%. And if you look at this revenue mix that we have, it's a really nice blend of services within and in markets and really points to that cross-selling opportunity that we have. As far as the revenue by geography, it just really points to the map I just showed you before. We're heavily densified in the United States, and if we look at these other areas, it just is a great opportunity for us to continue to grow in these regions. So here's the big reveal. I think that we have a fantastic opportunity to provide meaningful value creation for our shareholders over the next three years. And this 318.85 framework really outlines how, will guide how we execute on that. It points to our commitment to growth. We want to be, you know, we're going to grow to $3 billion. And margin expansion. So as we grow, we have to improve our margins. And again, you know, our focus around being a high free cash flow business and enable to us to reinvest that back into the business. So extremely excited to put this out into the public domain. keep you guys up to date as we progress towards it but also very excited to bring this to the team this is going to be a fantastic way for us to have the team rally around these goals it will inform the daily decisions that our entrepreneurial leaders are making on a day to day basis so 3-18-85 we'll continue to report on that and Kristen's actually going to go through it in a bit more detail on some of the ways that we're going to bridge to these numbers so we've set the goals now we need to execute and deliver on them these megatrends I've been talking about we're very well positioned to capitalise on these for long term sustained growth and if you look at these four megatrends we're talking about we have multiple services that we can deploy in every single one of these areas so as far as ageing infrastructure goes there is just a huge amount of investment needed in the U.S. alone just to get things up to speed. Alex is going to go through some really nice examples. But this is work that has to be done. It's non-discretionary. It's very resilient to a financial downturn. People need to drive over a bridge. They need to drink water. These things need to happen regardless of what's going on in the economy. And our subject matter experts are in extremely high demand for solving a lot of these issues that we're facing. 166 gigawatts, it's a number that may not mean much to many of you, but if I put it in perspective, 15 new New Yorks need to be built as far as infrastructure by 2030. A lot of that's from the data center demand that is coming into play, but there's a lot of other areas of the grid that are being electrified. It also points to the aging infrastructure issues that we have. So across all segments, we have a very deep bench of expertise. We have very, very strong relationships with utilities, which is very hard to come by. And again, this is a service that's in very high demand, and we are very, very well positioned to capitalize on. So an interesting statistic, 90% of the world's data was created in the last two years. So that's pretty astounding, but probably not surprising with all the talk about AI and all of that. And we truly are market leaders in this space as far as data centers are concerned. And as I said, you're going to hear more from the team about it. But we really do continue to be excited about our growth in this space. We're continually bringing existing services that we have to this end market and increasing the revenue that we get per megawatt of data center or gigawatt of data center that we work on. We also have, sorry, I'll just go back for a second, a very strong focus on operations. We get a lot of questions about when will this boom end. A lot of the services that we have are recurring within the facility. If you imagine they're constantly changing out the servers, new technologies changing all the time and coming into play, and we have the technical know-how to engineer the solutions for our clients and continue to support them with these data centers for the long term. There is also a race to digitize the entire planet. We're going to build a digital twin of this entire planet, and it's going to constantly need to be refreshed as things change and technology upgrades. We are market leaders in geospatial. Our analytics are second to none, and this work travels extremely well. So, for example, we're mapping the South Island of New Zealand right now. We won that work not because we're there. We won it because we had the analytics capability and the sense of technology. So we're really well positioned to capitalize on this fast-growing market. We're also in a position of leadership in a highly fragmented market. So this really enables an exciting opportunity for us to consolidate and gain market share and cross-sell as we bring all these different fragmented services into our large-scale business. If we look at the different segments, just some sort of examples or comments, in the engineering space, within the U.S. alone, there's 140,000 engineering firms. It's a very target-rich environment for our M&A strategy. Our inspection and mitigation business, we are market leaders in North America. And so from a position of strength, we can continue to consolidate that business and grow. And geospatial, as I mentioned, travels very well. That works extremely well in a fragmented market. So we can move to where the work is. It travels extremely well, and we're really excited about continuing to grow that business. And combined, as I mentioned, that vision about that large, complex facility, the synergistic. So each business is driving the other. So we're laser-focused on capitalizing on these trends, and if we just sort of point to three strategic areas of focus for us, We want to continue to win in essential and high-demand verticals and markets and geographies. So really getting behind those businesses that have a lot of tailwinds and are driving our margin growth. Their land and expand strategy that we talked about, continuing to grow geographically, and supporting that with our M&A focus as well. We need to drive profit, and we've set a target around that. There's a lot of work we've got to do, but we see a path. and AI will play into it, equipping our team with tools to be more efficient, both from a shared services perspective and through operations and continue to work, focus on this programmatic work. The more we can do repeat work with our clients, less time we spend on business development and improve our margins that way as well. So AI, we get a lot of questions about this. We really do see this as an accelerant, not a replacement for our business. Our work is highly technical, it's probably more field-driven than you actually realise, and it is absolutely safety-critical. So it depends on engineering judgement, and that requires people out in the field to do that. There is a lot of regulatory oversight in this space. Our clients actually mandate the software that we use in a lot of cases, particularly in the public space, and it requires deep domain expertise. So we see AI as an enabler for us to deliver our work more efficiently and also take cost out of the space. It's not going to replace the need for a trusted expert in the field working on critical infrastructure. One of the barriers to growth for our business is getting subject matter experts. So this idea of equipping them with a tool that can enable them to do more with less is really, really exciting for us. It will probably replace some of the more mundane things we do around drafting and things like that, but we're leaning into that. We're excited about it. We're at the forefront of working with a lot of the software providers. They see our technical expertise as extremely important, and we're deploying this in a number of work streams and have already implemented it in a number of places. So I've asked Dan to come up and talk about across selling. We get a lot of questions about that. What I would just say from a high level is that this is a tough task. We've got to educate our teams. There's a lot to be done to help them understand what these new services mean for their clients. I'm really pleased with the progress that we're making. But first and foremost, it starts with the culture. And we have an extremely entrepreneurial culture in the business. There is a genuine excitement from the team back here and all of our leaders in the company, the new services that we now have and our ability to bring those to their clients and be better off because of it. So with that, I'll have Dan talk through the cross-selling program.
G'day, everyone. I'm Dan Colomar, Vice President of Growth and Strategy. We have what we need today to continue to grow. we've got deep client relationships strong technical capabilities and trusted teams in the markets we serve what we have been doing or we need to continue doing is pushing this forward in a structured and repeatable way we're seeing positivity in the investment focus in sorry in the investment thesis that Robbie mentioned year to date we've already hit the same cross selling numbers that we did in the entirety of 2025 and this is driven by accurate's ability to cross-sell into NV5 and NV5 into Acuren. 45% of our cross-selling year-to-date has actually come from that structure. Ben mentioned the education of our staff, but it also leads into education of our clients. That is a process. It's ongoing, and it's not going to stop. But we're seeing an acceleration there. When we do cross-sell, we're seeing our fees actually double compared to our average fee. Historically, when we've looked at this, I'll acknowledge it was opportunistic a client would call us and say that they needed a service our team members would respond but we're being a bit more intentional and strategic going forward with these four vectors and the goal is simple create more opportunities for our team members to talk their clients and offer additional services driving that revenue upside further forward within the Canadian white space we're very excited about the integration growth opportunity we have our inspection mitigation team has a really strong local presence they're trusted by their clients on the consulting engineering side and the geospatial side we have the ability to bring services that are transportable across the border things like right-of-way analysis fire protection engineering hydrospatial and geospatial all transport really easily we've been cross-training some of our inspection mitigation team members and services like 3D scanning which we have a demo of outside. Our quality assurance team members from the from Canada sorry the United States have been transporting up to Canada seeing whether we can upskill those labs that we have there and offer up new services and this is all allowing us to respond to RFPs that we historically might not have pursued due to a scope gap and we're looking at those selective integration focused acquisitions. An example project I'd like to highlight that just pulls all of this together is a project that came from a municipal client that the inspection mitigation team has. They approached us, informed us about this RFP, and encouraged us to pursue. Now, there's a good chunk of that RFP that we typically wouldn't have pursued as the inspection mitigation team, but with the collaboration that we've had with the consulting engineering side and the geospatial side, we're able to increase the fee by approximately 50 percent. What's really exciting about this is that it's doubled the total fee that we're going to be doing with that client for this year and we can take that same logic and approach and scale it across the entire country. The energy sector remains foundational for us as a company where cross-selling is driven by those deep client relationships and expansion of services into our existing MSAs. We're integrating our inspection, engineering, and geospatial groups and pursuing these projects together and increasing the value of each engagement that we have also in doing this we can reduce the reliance we have on third party sub consultants this improvement in execution increases margins and drives us forward as that holistic strategic partner and further support of that investment thesis is not just coming from our KPIs it's also coming from our clients last week one of our leaders in the West facilitated meeting with a utility client of ours. It opened up the opportunity to talk about inspection mitigation services which we wouldn't have had otherwise and now we've been given a pilot project and the client has indicated that this could lead to a whole portfolio platform. A win I'd like to highlight is on the East Coast. It's actually the office here in New York. They've been working with a utility client for numerous years now and identified the opportunity to bring the inspection mitigation team in. In facilitating that conversation, they unlocked a six-figure project that we are anticipating heading towards a million dollars by the end of this year. That growth is really scalable across our entire utility sector. Within the building sector, we're really excited about the ability to extend and diversify the inspection mitigation team through our consulting engineering relationships. We're very deep in buildings on the consulting engineering side. A good example I'd like to give is just on the commissioning side, which is one of our fastest growing groups in the U.S. They've identified the opportunity to bring our non-destructive testing in to our data center clients where they're really focused on that higher level of reliability. By bringing those services, which again we couldn't have done previously, we're now able to increase the dollar amount per project. We've had conversations with utility clients, hospitals, airports, and universities where they've expressed an interest in this platform. We're also looking at the potential to diversify our inspection mitigation team into services like testing and balancing, which historically wasn't available to our consulting engineering business. The lack of field staff that we had on our side made it harder for us to get out there and do this testing and balancing work. By leveraging the field teams that we have on the inspection mitigation side, we're able to actually access that work that we couldn't previously, creating that true lifecycle partner that Ben mentioned. A really nice project I'd like to highlight here and one of the leaders that brought this one in is actually in the room. On the data center side, we've typically done design and commissioning. We were engaged by a manufacturer that actually supplies these data centers with equipment to perform non-destructive testing on their ammonia piping. Now, what started off as an approximately $60,000 project has led to a half a million dollar project and we're anticipating this getting into multiple millions before the end of the year. I was just talking to Jeff about this earlier and he said that he's anticipating additional contracts from different manufacturers because they're seeing the good work that we could do. So again this speaks to the scalability of the work that we're doing and how we can drive those additional services across the organization. Within the infrastructure side it gives us access to large durable demand environment. Bringing teams together from our inspection consulting engineering and geospatial team we're able to prime more opportunities that we were were previously and where we do partner we now have an opportunity to offer those strategic partners more services it's creating a platform for us to continue growing into that market potential and on that market potential it is significant 35% of bridges in the United States need repair which is approximately 220,000 spans 40 billion dollars has been allocated by the federal government already and there are estimates that that's going to push to 400 billion to repair all those bridges and as we access that market we will continue to grow and offer more solutions to our partners. Sample project for you here is a bridge that we're doing in North and Canada. Essentially same process as the other one that I mentioned the team identified a scope gap identified that if we brought in our consulting engineering expertise we were more likely to win the project. Collaborated on an RFP, were awarded the project and it led to a multi-million dollar win. Speaking to the team today they've also highlighted to me that there's also two new RFPs that have come out that are very very similar we're taking the same strategic approach and offering that scale and driving to win more work in Canada. Another one I'd like to highlight is actually in Florida our buildings team was asked to inspect a passenger terminal looking at the air conditioning systems. In discussions we identified that there was a potential to offer a structural engineering and also inspection mitigation work. The total contract value there doubled by bringing our engineering partners in. Again this is something that we can take to every port in the United States and start to drive that forward in a scalable way. So across these four growth vectors and our continued focus on international expansion, we're able to continue driving growth, reduce our reliance on third party sub consultants, and help our clients through a complete lifecycle partnership and the confidence I have in this is that it's not just a top-down initiative this is built on the entrepreneurial spirit we have as a company and with tools like our cross-selling incentive we're encouraging all of our employees to drive additional conversations this allows us to identify pursue and win more work together giving us a stronger platform for growth and in the more integrated offering for our clients we started seeing the results of this already we're very excited about the
scalable approach we're taking and what it brings for the future with that I'll hand back to Ben thanks Dan I think it's pretty exciting to see the momentum that we're gaining here and you know as we continue to enroll our staff and client discussions are being had the work will continue to flow so it's great great work to the team we're gonna ask Alex to come up to talk about consulting and engineering he's got a little entourage here we're gonna go through some areas in more detail so Alex I'll hand it off to you my name is Alex
Hawkman I'm the president of our consulting engineering division I have been a licensed engineer for quite some time I started in this business in the late 70s and I'm still practicing and I can tell you that in all these years we are entering a very exciting period of time our consulting engineering piece makes up about 34% of TIC's solutions revenue. What's critical, though, is we are in a mandatory business. These are non-discretional spends. What do we mean by that? Has anybody been to Flint, Michigan? Would anybody go there today and drink the water? Can you tell me when that happened? When did that crisis occur? Anybody have an idea? you? 2014, 2015. It's now 11 years, and we still recognize when we say Flint, Michigan, everybody recognizes the water crisis. So the type of services that we provide are mission critical, and they're determining whether or not a city has a great reputation or a negative reputation. And citizens demand the services that we provide. I'll ask one more question. This is like the seventh inning stretch. Who flew in at LaGuardia Airport? And who has flown into LaGuardia Airport, say, eight, nine years ago? It was the laughingstock of the United States to enter such an iconic city and have to go through such a horrendous airport. Now they've invested money, and what's happened? So the investment that's being made in infrastructure and the lack of investment that has been made over time. We perceive, we clearly understand the benefit that's received when an infrastructure spend is made. So the critical aspects that we focus on are core capabilities span infrastructure, power and utilities, buildings and data centers, as well as environmental services. The way that we go to market, we are typically contracting interacting with what is called a professional services agreement or a master services agreement. As a result, we have multi-year visibility on our revenue potential. We also have a deep penetration with the client and develop very strong relationships. And what that allows us to do is what we say cross-sell. And what does cross-sell mean? It's a way that we collaborate. Dan had brought up a case about New York City. We have a client, another major utility company, they have used us for a very particular service and generating somewhere in the neighborhood of just under a million dollars a year. We brought to them the capabilities of what we do in our power and utility market, and we just want a project over a million dollars for a substation. That's what takes place when we cross-sell, when the clients recognize that we've already done a great job for them they recognize that we have additional services that we can provide and because of the deep relationships that we have with that client we're then able to sell additional services so ultimately it keeps us in contact with the client for longer through the entire planning design and faith every phase of the life cycle of an asset and as such it even strengthens the relationship because they see us as someone who can solve their issues So when we consider the long-term secular growth drivers of our industry, it's everything from what we demand, clean water, safe roads, safe bridges, to what we desire, a more comfortable way to travel. So every aspect of what we do is something that everybody is going to appreciate every single day. You flip the light switch, you expect the light to go on. Rolling blackouts are not something that we tolerate. As such, we need to recognize what that means from the demand, and that demand is exactly what is creating the growth driver for our power and utility business. Financial snapshot, we generated $714 million in 2025 for TIC Solutions. It's about a 47% gross margin. When you look at the end market and the service line, Really, the important aspect there is what you're going to see is that we have a very nice diversification across the service lines as well as the end markets. So we're not subject to a downturn in any one market. We're able to navigate very nicely. And with the sticky relationships that we have in these MSAs, we're then able to introduce additional services with a client that we already have a great relationship. Ben had already touched on the revenue by geography. One of the things that you'll notice here is that Asia now represents 10% of our operations. We talk about the opportunistic approach, the way we recognize where we have new markets to penetrate. Asia, when we first acquired our companies that had Asia operations, accounted for 1% of our revenue with an office in Hong Kong. The team led by Gary and Keith recognized that the technical skill set they had was perfect for penetrating the data center market. And as such, they've grown it to 10%. Now we're challenging our local team to grow even faster. But when you hear from Gary and Keith, you'll realize it's not going to be an easy task. But the real story, the services that we provide in consulting engineering were part of the legacy NV5 infrastructure and business and technology sector. We started that operation in 2010. Does anybody know what our revenue was that first year? $20 million, right? And now we're generating $714 million. It's a phenomenal growth story. And the investment thesis from the very beginning was to develop great technical expertise, great subject matter experts and many of them are in the back of the room I invite you to engage with them and you'll recognize the technical skill set and you'll recognize why we win the work that we do what are the mega trends that are driving our business it's everything that you demand every single day you know we use our smartphones what's your expectation that it's gonna work all the time except maybe when you're in an elevator it's the only time you're gonna have an expectation that the thing may not work. Every other time, you expect the data when you want it. When you flip the light switch, you expect that the electricity is going to be there. So when you consider the aging infrastructure, the lack of investment that has been made, we all see it. We all see roads, bridges that aren't properly maintained. We've all had experience with LaGuardia Airport. So the demand is there. The money needs to be spent in order to keep these structures sound, safe, and it's something that the public demands. With respect to increasing energy, we had issues before the data centers. We had issues with wildfires. We have issues with weather. We have a growing population. We have an aging power infrastructure. So there's a lot of demands that we have to grow, and then it's just been so much greater with the demands of data centers so we've seen a big increase in our power utility work but we've also recognized the services that we could provide for the data centers themselves everything from design commissioning retro commissioning we try to touch every aspect throughout the entire asset lifecycle does a couple of things number one we have visibility of a revenue stream but number two by staying there we're always in front of the client and the deeper that we strengthen those relationships, the better the client recognizes all the services that we can provide, and that makes the cross-selling or the collaboration that much easier. Our power delivery group, Jeff, you can answer this one too, we started with a handful of people, and now it is one of our largest segments in the industry. And what we've recognized is that we could not just approach our power and utility companies with a single service. We needed to ensure that we had a deep service penetration and offering throughout the entire life cycle. So when you recognize some of your neighborhoods, you may have seen them undergrounding the power and utility lines. They may have had old wood poles. So there's a number of services that are necessary that an engineering firm evaluates designs. The power lines just don't go underground by those guys that you see running these machines. It has to be designed. We have to recognize what other utilities are there, what kind of spacing do we need. Your expectation is that when you see those guys working, eventually they're going to leave and you're still going to have power in your house. So there's a number of engineering activities that need to take place to design how to properly do the undergrounding, how to even replace overhead poles. So what we have done is build out a service that has a touch point throughout the life cycle of every power utility. So from the time it leaves the power plant to the time it hits the meter, we have touch points. Another interesting thing, you know, you're going to hear from Kurt, and Kurt has one of the most outrageous geospatial platforms around. But how did we actually enter into geospatial services? Anybody know? This is like the seventh inning stretch. It can be a little bit participatory. We acquired a firm called SkySeam, generated under a million dollars a year. And what happened is we recognized in our power and utility market, we had to fly the lines. And the company that we were using was being used by some of our competitors. And as a result, when we needed them, they would say, you know, we got a little bit of backlog, you have to wait. So what did we do? We bought them. And then we recognize the power that geospatial services can bring to our traditional engineering services. We're now a multi-million dollar UAV business. Accurant has a legacy business. And what Kurt's going to present is at a much higher level. But it's recognizing how we can be opportunistic, how we can grow operations, how we can integrate, and be able to provide even a better service. And in this case, the service wasn't necessarily better in terms of the quality, but the timing was. So we were able to have a control, and that's the benefit of the collaboration that we have in a cross-sell. We're able to control every aspect. We're not relying on a subcontractor. So why do we win? We win because we have the technical skill set. We have in our services what is called a quality-based selection. The acronym is QBS. We win projects without ever negotiating a fee. In a quality-based selection, and this is mandated by almost every state, we first have to show our technical skill. We have to show how we're going to approach the project. We have to show the staff, the subject matter expert. We have to show our past experience with similar projects. And then we're awarded the project. The next phase is negotiating the fee. So it's like going to a restaurant, eat your steak, and then you negotiate how much you're going to pay, right? So it's a very different model, and as a result, we don't have the same price pressure. What the government requires is that we have an audit, and that audit gives us a multiplier so that we determine how much time we think it's going to take to do the project, and we get to charge our multiplier, and ultimately that's how we develop the fee. But the way that we win the project is purely by the skill that we have. So by having these multi-year MSAs, we are getting deeper embedded with the client, we develop the relationship, they recognize our technical expertise, and that technical expertise can be one that travels, or it could be a very localized niche expertise. And with that, we are then able to win the next project, the next similar project, or the next multi-year MSA. The great advantage to this is it creates a very nice moat. It's a very high barrier to entry. If you want to come into one of our areas where we have that level of expertise and set up shop, great. In five to maybe 10 or 15 years, you'll be able to compete with us. So it's an incredible moat that allows us to be able to preserve the relationship and build on that relationship to cross-sell. With that, one of the most notable projects that's going to happen here in New York City, the incredible development that's taking place on Fifth Avenue. Does anybody know where Fifth Avenue is? Pretty iconic area. From Central Park South to 42nd Street, there's a major thoroughfare that's taking place. And Joe is the leader that helped us win this project, and I'd like him to discuss it.
Appreciate it, Alex. So let me give you some context on Fifth Avenue and its importance to New York City. The 21 blocks that we're talking about here between Bryan Park and Central Park represent about 5% of New York City's tax revenue, or on an annual basis, $6 billion. The roadway itself sees more pedestrian traffic than any other road in New York City. I invite you to take a walk down there Saturday afternoon and see for yourself experience the overcrowding on Fifth Avenue. And as Alex talked about with regards to utilities a little bit, there are a number of utilities underneath Fifth Avenue currently that were put in in the 1800s, and they're still active. So talking about those megatrends and the utility upgrades that need to happen over the next few years. So this project is going to be about addressing a lot of those utility issues that are on Fifth Avenue. It's also going to be about addressing this pedestrian situation. We're going to be reducing Fifth Avenue, taking away two lanes of traffic. Right now it's five lanes, and it's vehicle-centric. and we're going to create what's going to be sort of the chandelier of New York City, a new destination or a premier shopping destination for New York City, reinvigorate Fifth Avenue. How did we win a project like this? I think it's probably an important discussion because we want to learn a lot more projects like this. And for NV5, that story started about three years ago. We won another project here in the city called the Reconstruction of Lexington Avenue. It was a design build project and it was New York City's first design build project or I should say the Department of Design and Construction's first design build project and that term first you'll hear a lot from our New York City office we're well connected to the New York City agencies and where they're looking at pilot projects or they're looking at innovative solutions they very often reach out to us so on the reconstruction of Lexington Avenue project we started off how you would start off a normal city project we did survey using LiDAR scanners standard scanners we use record documentations and we started creating a base plan for which to develop a new project on top of but we took it a little bit further a little bit innovative here we got the city to allow us to dig test pits all along the corridor and we took a lidar scanner we inverted it and we dropped it into those test pits and scan the underground we took that additional information along with the information we had already collected and we created the first sort of digital twin for Lexington Avenue a BIM model of public infrastructure the city hadn't had something like that before typically at the end of a project we hand 2d plans out to the contractor and that's what they build from and that's the city has as a record as well now they have a full BIM model of all of Lexington Avenue and it allows them to understand where all the utilities are what their relationship to each other are what the relationship to the surfaces how deep they are and to the adjacent buildings and they know all that without putting a shovel in the ground so we took that successful pilot and we had a conversation with the city when Fifth Avenue came out explained to them the importance of developing something of that magnitude for Fifth Avenue and that along with our expertise on capital infrastructure we were able to secure this incredible project to put this project in context and against Lexington Avenue Lexington Avenue was a 30 million dollar project Fifth Avenue is a 300 million dollar project it's a huge advance in the effort that's going to take from our part and from our design fees associated with this type of project we look at both these projects though as building blocks not as individual successes what if we could take this understanding of building 3d collaborative digital models for for corridors and that becomes citywide how much time would be saved and maintenance of these streets and expediting construction and knowing where things are before we're actually digging the ground how much impact would that have to tourists and to workers and to people visiting the city and being bothered by construction all over the city. We see this as a starting point, and we're going to take it from here and go a lot further. And with that, I'll hand it back over to Alex.
Thank you, Joe. So when we look at our growth, what do we see? That we've already penetrated some great markets, and really the intent is to continue to grow and build out those markets. Our long-term strategy absolutely aligns with the megatrends of the industry. When we look at acquisitions, we clearly recognize that they need to add value to this investment When you look at the tailwinds that we have within an industry, they're talking about the upgrade that's going to be necessary for our powering utility to go until 2050, and And that might even be an optimistic estimate. So we have phenomenal tailwinds with great visibility in our markets. And on top of that, the data centers just started popping up. And our data center growth is also quite remarkable, and we see a lot of visibility with respect to not just the construction of the data centers and the design, but the ongoing operations and maintenance commissioning and retro-commissioning that takes place. As you look at the map, one of the things that you might recognize immediately, you heard about Accurine, you heard about Canada, all that white space to the north, that's Canada. We have nothing there. So there's a huge opportunity for us to grow our consulting engineering operation into Canada and be able to provide those services to the clients that Accurine has already built. But perhaps what's most interesting, For those of you that have followed us for quite some time, in 2010, one more question, in 2010, how many offices do we have? Anybody know? Four. We started with four offices. It was a strategy. The strategy was to acquire firms that had phenomenal subject matter experts, that had these master services agreements and professional services agreements that would allow us to continue to grow. So when you look at what we've accomplished since 2010, and when you look at this still white space that we have, we need a lot more in Texas, where Acuren is very strong. We have a lot more in Canada. When we look at the mid-Atlantic states, there's still a huge growth potential for our industry. And we look to take advantage of that. We mentioned data centers. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to our data center experts, the gentleman that actually broke us into the market, Gary and Keith.
That was some plans, shaking your hand. Thank you. My name is Gary. I lead the Building Solutions International business, and I'm from Hong Kong.
Hi, my name is Keith. I lead the International Planning and Design business, and I'm also based in Hong Kong. And for context, Hong Kong is our regional headquarters for our international business.
We do about 80 million in data center right now, and 80% of that is from our APEC stronghold. And for context, again, we work with the eight of the top 10 hyperscalers in the world. I'm going to take you through a journey on how we capitalise on this megatrend. 300 billion is the amount of capital flowing into data centre infrastructure right now. And that's going to balloon to what Ben have just said, one trillion. And in context of how much processing data that's going into data centre every year, that's 24 megawatt. Sorry, gigawatt. That's about free New York City that gets added to our world every year. Just imagine the amount of equipment, the amount of infrastructure, the connectivity, and the power that is required. 27% CAGA is what's happening in APAC right now. And we've got insight because we've got this client relationship, because they disclosed the pipeline to us. We're seeing no signs of this slowing. What we're seeing is not a cycle. It's a structural reprogramming of the global economy. And I want to demonstrate this through my journey from Hong Kong to New York. I started, and, you know, as we all do, we take an Uber to the airport, and the automated gate was scanning my face. And next, I have an electronic boarding pass, which I scan, my biometrics, And then from that automatic process, I probably think my biometrics is tagged to my boarding pass. Now, at immigration, I've got a digital IT, which is an application on my phone. I scan that. My face gets scanned again. Probably my biometrics get refreshed again. And when we're walking to the boarding gates, I get a notification from the app. Airline says the boarding gate has changed. So we go to the new boarding gates. My face gets scanned again. And during boarding, the airline probably noticed that I'm on the flight. During the flight, I used the Wi-Fi to do some work on our cloud platform.
And in that 16-hour flight, I've logged into the same Wi-Fi, and I've asked AI to script the script today. I've asked AI to improve it. I've asked AI to read it back to me so that I can hear it.
And at the U.S. immigration, long gone are the days of the stickers on your passport. I've got an app that shows my visa. Again, my face gets scanned again. How many times my face gets scanned? probably five six times and then i enter into new york as a tourist what i do i take loads of photos and then i upload them on the cloud share them with everyone i process some of it using the you know erase from apple ai and that all is changing that our life has now changed and i don't think we're going back in time behind all this requires a diff a massive digital infrastructure that needs It needs to be planned, designed, maintained, optimized. And that's where Tech Solutions comes in. Let's look at where capital is flowing into right now. North America being the biggest market, followed by APAC. Now, you can see from the color of the shades is our penetration in this market. And you can see in APAC, we have a very strong, mature market for us. What's more interesting is the lighter shades. In the US, in other regions, these are runway. These are basically our white space that we can grow into. What we're doing in this region is that we're scaling up a proven playbook where the demand is accelerating way beyond the local supply. Our clients are not really asking for just normal suppliers right now. Strategic supply chain is the word that our hyperscalers client look at. And what they're looking at is a partner that can replicate quality across all geographies at speed.
And as an example, we recently got work in Osaka, where our client, in that typical place, Osaka, Japan, where that typical place, it would take two or three years to just get the design going and another two or three years to build it. But we did it in another year. We completed the design another year. And that's the speed that we're talking about.
Speed to market is very, very important to the data center client right now. And from another example, we started a relationship with one of the biggest hyperscalers in Singapore. From that, that grew into Jakarta, Osaka, into Seoul in Korea. We're having conversation of working in Australia, and they really want us in the EU as well. How do we transform this, or how do we make sure that we capitalize this megatrend into great business opportunity? We've got about 700 mission-critical engineers, and these are not general engineers that we have deployed in this sector because it's booming. These are data center engineers, these are power system engineers, these are certified data designers, these are CFD modelers, these are commissioning specialists. This creates a very high barrier of entry because our hyperscalers client have their playbook. It's very, very controlled in a way that they do want their standard to be met. This creates durable revenue stream for us. without hyperscaler self-services and products it's a global service and it's a global product what they want is continuity in their design they want the same design mentality they want the same commissioning rigor throughout the service throughout their life cycle supply chain this is where when they built the data center in dublin they want us to replicate that in singapore in Seoul, in Jakarta, in Malaysia, but with local adaptation. This creates repeatability for our work. And we're embedded in these MSAs. Once we get in, we tend to stay in. Long gone are the days where we have to predict resource and know how many people should we hire to meet the demand. Because of the importance of supply chain right now, our clients see us as strategic partners. They disclose to us the construction pipeline, and some of these are, actually most of these are 24 to 36 months out. This gives us great visibility for us to scale up the resource and protect our margin. In some cases, our client would pre-allocate us on these works quite far out. And in one particular case, our client gives us five years construction backlog that is triggered by demand. and the only ask from them to us is that when we run you run with us and they like no they like us because we run fast looking at scope and services we start with design and commissioning and then we start layering different service on top of this structural civil technology QA QC so the which people come to the dollar per contract keep increasing and from data center we're going upstream and downstream. Upstream, we're going to the substation, we're going to the optic fiber network, and we're also into cable landing station right now. This work that we're talking about is durable, it's repeatable, it's programmable, and it's expandable, and this creates a very high growth, high margin business.
Well, I want to talk about the current boom of AI adoption and how does it mean the power intensity, and how does it mean, what does it mean to revenue and margins for us I'm an electrical engineer I've been designing data centers for the past 15 20 years 15 20 years ago a sizable data center will be probably a size of this room to 300 server server racks and be drawing around three to four three to five hundred kilowatts and for those who do not know a kilowatt three to five hundred kilowatts is probably about 300 hair dryers and right now we don't measure that anymore and that in hair dryers we measure that through cities How many cities are we building? So that's that's a scale of how it's grown from 15-20 years ago till now And just recently with the AI adoption power intensity grew Three to eight times more intense same room It'll be treated eight times more intense because the GPUs are getting You know more power hungry and these these guys these areas centers are very power hungry Just in the US alone. We're projected to do about this These data centers are projected to use up about 12% of the U.S. annual power consumption. And U.S. being the leader of the market, it will probably be the same globally. And this is projected to grow as well, 15-20% a year for the next few years. And what does that mean to take solutions? Not too long ago, our typical contract would be under a million dollars. And right now, we're seeing that to be multi-million dollars, and they're coming in at an accelerated pace for us. we're not talking about AI data center the new word is AI factory these are 200 acres sites and that is a amplifier of what I just said about durability of revenue but also expandability land and expand and the beauty of us is that we are not tied to a fixed price construction risk we don't have that risk we're not tied to an EPC risk as well what we do is engineering hours and expertise the more hours we put in the more expertise we put in that would mean more revenue for us it will increase our margins it's a very simple business for us and this slide will just tell you about the life cycle of a typical data center development is from a plan design and capacity and operation and optimization phase what i want to point out is that in a data center field engineers is at the forefront so we're lead consultant and and all the specialist service get wrapped under us.
This gives us a very good luxury to look into different business and select those that we want to in-house, whether organically or we use them to feed our M&A engine, which Kevin will come into. This is very good because rather than qualifying a candidate during due diligence, we have worked with them before so that we ensure that our M&A engine is fed with quality candidates.
Right, and this slide will talk about our service penetration across the region and across the segments and across the whole life cycle, from planning up to design, operation, and optimisation. If you just look at the first role, which is consulting engineering, you can see that we're pretty embedded and the shades are pretty dark. And the white space and the grey space below that, in inspection and mitigation and geospatial, that reflects our untapped opportunities. I think we'll talk about, with the efforts that Dan has mentioned just now, we're seeing some proof points that this is happening, and in the next short term, couple of years, I think those grey will be populated by a lot darker shades.
We've done it before, from 1% to 10%. We are very confident that we'll either continue our trajectory or even beat it. With that, back to you, Alex.
An honourable mention goes to our asset digitisation. It is a very up-and-coming market. For us, it's a very nascent technology. David Black is here in the room, and he is actually demonstrating this particular technology. One of the things that's so fascinating is that we can do everything from the large infrastructure projects, water plants, all the way to, in this case, an example, we won 2,000 stores. We've already completed 1,000 stores. and this is allowing our client to be able to have a digital twin of their operation the beauty of it is that it is a recurring revenue stream as well what they do they'll take this data they AI enable it but ultimately the physical work that's done on site is something that we need to do and we're demonstrating that and it'll be demonstrated right after the meeting so when we talk about AI it is been the talk of the town right everyone's concerned, what is AI going to do for our particular industry? So recognize, when we submit a set of drawings to build a bridge, to design a road, that has to be signed and sealed by a licensed engineer, not an AI stamp. So what we have recognized is that throughout the process, there are ways in which AI-enabled technology is absolutely going to be able to help us. But when it comes to actually having a licensed technician, a licensed engineer on-site inspecting the construction, where the help comes is in terms of collecting the data. But for us, when we look at what it can do in our back office operations, it's an absolute margin accelerator. Right now, we have about 10% of our staff working in administrative, marketing roles, some financial roles. and for one concept is we need the A players because there's a lot of the work that we're now going to be able to pass off and have it done through artificial intelligence but in terms of our core business it's very solid and it's very sound because of the technical expertise that you need to have the credentialing that you need to have the past project experience that's absolutely required in order to win a project. So when we look at engineering delivery, again, it's not going to design the roadway, it's not going to design the bridge, but it can do certain things relative to QA, QC that's incredibly important. Some of the work that we do in data centers, they're with the hyperscalers. Give me an idea of how many pages you think an average contract might be. 200 is common. We have some contracts that go over a thousand pages.
How do you, you know, there's a, I was talking to somebody that was legal for a large EPC, and they told me an acronym, RTFC.
Has anybody heard that? It stands for read the contract. Now, if the contract is hundreds of pages, realistically, how can you do it? We have an AI tool that I've loaded up a contract that's over 1,000 pages. It gave me a risk register. It allowed me to recognize what we had to do for notifications, which situations created force majeure, what we had to do to notify the client when that came up. So in terms of what it's going to be able to do relative to our productivity, relative to mitigating risk, it's absolutely a huge potential. And obviously, all of that is just geared towards how we can drive margin expansion. In closing, I think everybody will recognize we're in a mandated business. We have a great recurring revenue theme, as well as visibility for long-term revenue. The quality-based selection means that we're not having to compete in that low bid environment. we have a lot of room for geographic expansion and a long history of delivering on our commitments. In absolute closing from 20 million to 700 I look forward to bringing consulting engineering to over a billion dollars to meet our three billion dollar target. With that we're going to actually allow you to have a ten minute break and then I'm going to ask Seamus Sullivan to come up who runs our inspection and mitigation division.
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My name is Seamus Sullivan. I'm the president of our inspection and mitigation business. I'm proud to build on our legacy Acura platform and our connection with NV5. Prior to this role, I was leading our commercial effort in Canada and across our segment, and I bring that focus to the role. I focus on growth and on contracts and commercial pricing. I have a 20-year history with the company, primarily in Canada, but I've relocated to Houston. Houston's an important market for us, not just because that's where the headquarters of some of our largest enterprise customers are, but also it's where we have opportunity. We have a region that has a high growth potential and we are hyper-focused on the Gulf. The team is very focused also on connecting with our consulting engineering and geospatial businesses. They bring high-value technical expertise that we are able to work behind And geospatial brings very high-quality analytics and service expansion to our customers. Today, I'm going to go over what we do, why we win, some of the impact examples that we have, and how we support the TIC framework of 3.18.85. I&M is our foundational field-based TIC solutions platform. Like Alex mentioned, consulting engineering, our work is non-discretionary. It supports regulatory insurance requirements for our customers. It's core to protecting the uptime, the safety of their assets, and to extend the life of those assets. We use certified labor in high-consequence environments, and we turn data into insights that our customers use to make real decisions about. We're the largest North American platform with 5,500 technicians working in the field, And our core service lines are non-destructive testing, inspection, rope access, specialty trade labor, and engineering and lab work. The platform delivers $1.1 billion, about half of the TIC Solutions revenue, 28%, just a gross margin, and we have 6,700 total employees. We have lower margin than the other segments, but we benefit from a structurally lower overhead as a specialty labor business. we're concentrated in inspection that's often where our workflow starts we start with inspection and and that that inspection data whether it be radiography or ultrasonics often drives more inspection or mitigation or engineering work we have diversified end markets but the commonality across those end markets is that they're asset heavy it's something that we share with Alex as well is that the consulting engineering and markets are asset heavy we're very mature across our North American platform, which supports our share growth and drives differentiators like relationships, density, and breadth of services that we have. For our customers, and I mentioned it, we really protect uptime, safety, compliance, and extend their asset life. The operating expense for I&M at our enterprise customers is small, 1% to 2%. It does create some pricing resilience, but that OPEC spend compared with a pipeline spill or an unplanned outage or a compliance issue production loss is outsized. The low op-ex and high consequence often allows us to be embedded within our customers' facilities. The recurring run and maintain work, 45% of our work, is very much supported by the call-out and outage work at those enterprise customer sites, and those enterprise relationships allow us to create higher margin expanded services at those facilities. Ben mentioned the megatrends that are supporting our business, and the two that are most important for inspection and mitigation are the aging infrastructure and the energy demand. Same markets as our other segments, but different stages of the asset lifecycle, where consulting engineering will work upstream on a bridge, we will perform the inspection or perform the mitigation work on that asset. Some proof points that U.S. refineries are, on average, 40 years 40 years of age and they're running longer and harder than anticipated creating reliability issues 45% of us bridges are over 50 years of age and that age plus the increased utilization creates more risk and more work for us our inspection data really drives insights but that drives decisions whether to repair repair replace monitor extend redesign decommission assets and and the inspection mitigation segment holds a very critical critical point in that lifecycle but also the data position that's how the work that we do makes the platform cyclical the inspection work leads to our consulting engineering work or the consulting engineering work leads to inspection leads to mapping the asset and it's how we create a more lifecycle partner for our enterprise customers. So I want to go over a few of the reasons why we win. Scale and density is very hard to replicate. Our inspection businesses must be local. I describe local as being at the facility. Our certified labor needs to be where the issues happen, and that's why our enterprise customers embed us within their facilities. We support the decision-making process at their facilities. When we're not embedded, we have 130 locations to support those customers and 5,500 technicians to deploy. The density improves our response time. The access to labor improves our utilization and our win rates with customers. And our national presence really supports our local efforts. Another important reason why we win is our workforce and our safety performance. They're core advantages for our business. Certified labor is scarce. Training creates capacity, and we have invested in training platforms, in-house, non-destructive testing, rope access, field engineering services, visual inspection. It creates career paths for people at the organization where they can go from a trainee on day one with no experience to a senior technician or president of the segment, we can have welders get another ticket. They can become an electrician and also a rope access technician. And it just drives us to be deeper embedded within our customer sites, but also allows us to give real career paths for our technicians. Safety has become a commercial advantage for us. We have to operate safely to be to operate in high consequence environments our recordable injury rate of 0.11 is 21 times better than the construction industry average it becomes a real proof point it's something we rally around when we're when we're working with our customers and when we're bidding work is that is that we protect their assets and we protect our people lastly the the breadth of services creates wallet share for us and and this is critical to the cross selling effort that we have with the other segments we have over a hundred inspection and trade and engineering services but the value really isn't in the count of them it's how we sequence them inspect and diagnose and engineer and and it creates one partner it simplifies the customer experience it adds less vendor complexity and it allows us to capture more wallet share it's a proven strategy that we have executed at our enterprise customer sites. Procurement's a little different than Alex. We get a quality-based selection, QBS, quality-based selection, but we also compete on price. And where we see the most advantage is to have customers expand the categories that we operate in. It's the same strategy that we're employing for geospatial and consulting engineering and bringing them into our largest enterprise customer sites and allowing them to bring expertise in. We're very growth focused in three key areas, higher value services, priority end markets, and improving our wallet share. For higher value services, drones and robotics improve our data capture, rope access is high value and low penetration across the US especially. Lab and NDT and specialty engineering expand our margins but each one of them have clear customer value they support safety and uptime and better data better decisions and there's accurate value in each of those as well they're technical differentiated and outcome driven mega trends are supporting our priority end markets the same as the other segments power utilities infrastructure aerospace is an under penetrated market for us but we have certifications in house we're nad cap certified and in specific offices and we're expanding that NADCAP certification to others. The geographic white space is built on credibility. We're not entering those markets cold. And on top of that, we're layering a commercial engine. We are very commercially focused on converting lead pipelines into qualified leads, into actual opportunities and wins for our organization. But talk briefly about a couple of them, about rope access and then drones. The cardinal sales sin of saying better, faster, cheaper is hard to get away from when you're talking about rope access. So I say safer, faster, cheaper. You change out one word, it sometimes helps. But we played an early role in the North American deployment of industrial rope access. I was fortunate to be a site manager when Acuren purchased a small company, Rad, and we had rope access people show up at site. We didn't quite know what to do with them at the time. We thought they would go out and inspect, and when they did get up on a rope, put an inspector on a rope and up to inspect something, you realized insulation had to be removed. When insulation was removed, we noticed there was electrical heat trace there that we couldn't modify.
Maybe we inspected it, and the spool was bad. Now we had to replace the spool.
We needed a pipe fitter. That evolution created our one-mobilization, mobilization, multi-skilled approach to deploying that service. It really changes the maintenance economics for a customer. There are sites today with 100 rope access technicians on them, specialty trade services flexing to 400 during outages. And the customer value, again, is clear, lower downtime, lower access costs, total spend reduction. And our Acuren value is very clear. It's a broader scope. It's differentiation from our competitors, and we get to go deeper with our enterprise customers. It's the same approach we're using to bring CE and GEO to our largest enterprise accounts. There's a clear ROI for our customers, and we are a market leader in this space, especially in Canada. North America is underpenetrated in comparison to Europe. We're 5% to 10% in the U.S. versus 15% to 20% in Europe. and we have begun to deploy across the U.S. We've strengthened our commercial team and we've strengthened our technical expertise in ropes in the U.S. And we are beginning and we've seen early proof points of customers willing to open categories to allow us to bring rope access and other segment services to their facilities. This is a bridge that Dan actually mentioned earlier and a recent win in Halifax, Nova Scotia, a 4,000-foot suspension bridge with a 50-year life cycle that is nearing its end. We engineered an access solution, a 10-year agreement and scope of installing a platform that is modular, reconfigurable. The reasons I discussed why we win, our scale and our depth and our local capabilities, were all true for this scope. and the scalable, it really becomes a scalable model where we can look at complex, technical, recurring work and it's really tied to the megatrend of the infrastructure growth. There's a few people here today, Jake and Mitch, who have a rope demo outside. Jake was instrumental in putting this bid together and working with the cross-selling team to make sure that we put our best foot forward and I'd encourage you to chat with him today. Drones and robotics are key to our I&M service expansion. They expand our reach, safety, productivity, and improve access. And not just height, we can access confined spaces, energy, hazardous spaces. They're faster, visual inspection and geospatial data, but they are a tool. A drone or robotic crawler, the value is in the workflow, the interpretation of that data, the decision, and driving more productive technicians. We're operationalizing that with utility transmission lines. You heard Ben speak about the million miles of transmission lines that we fly every year, and our customers have geographic challenges and cost sensitivity and overutilized assets. We use drones to detect hotspots, damaged hardware, pull and structure issues. Kurt's going to speak a little later about the vegetation management program around utilities but combining our drone deployment team with Kurt's technical expertise around vegetation management again creates a broader scope of services that we can offer for our utility customers again we also have Eileen with us here today and she's out performing a drone demo I'd encourage you to speak to her she's deep within the utility space she's been able to expand our reach with utility customers and and we see further growth a couple things just to address some of the questions that we get around robotics and AI concerns so I discussed drones and robotics are really tools for us and they're not replacements these facilities are complex assets access materials conditions they all vary greatly the tools do extend our reach and our productivity and we embrace them because they drive enterprise value for our customers but also for us they strengthen our customer relationships when we continue to do the right thing and drive costs down they do enhance our inspections but the field execution of that work remains critical remains the same AI in particular is already driving some near-term results but long term we We see it as strengthening our data and AI-assisted analysis. I mentioned earlier, we sit at critical decision points with our customers when we hold the data position. We have tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of digital radiographs and LIDAR scans and all sorts of data points that we are now able to analyze at scale that we couldn't analyze before. Today, we're connecting data points. We're standardizing our workflows. as we're deepening insights for customers and improving the interaction with customer platforms and inspection data capture, as simple as telling our customers that they need a permit center 200 yards in a different direction to say 15 minutes per employee. Longer term, we know it can drive productivity and decision support layers for our technicians. We have a goal and a plan to create a recurring asset intelligence layer across our data to capture, connect, convert, and decide and help customers drive better decisions at their facilities, pushing us deeper into their enterprise accounts. AI is going to touch many points of what we do, but we firmly believe that field data and inspection judgment does remain critical. Margin expansion is a focus for our segment, and it's daily and it's metric-driven. In a specialty labor business, revenue by technician and utilization, pricing, total capacity of our workforce are critical. We have pockets of excellence, and sharing across Canada and the U.S. and strengthening our local teams is important to us. The Gulf Coast in particular has been an aggressive focus. It's a $200 million region, and we believe we hold less than our fair share. We've restructured that region. We have, rather than focused on service-based delivery selling to every customer, we have customer-focused leadership now pulling in every service with smaller operating teams. And over the last six months, we've seen continuous margin improvement out of that business. When you layer on the commercial excellence and expanding our revenue opportunities, capitalizing on the short-term leads and the long-term enterprise accounts we're driving results it's it's not heroic it's discipline it's it's daily there's practical actions to scheduling people better gaining more billable hours less rework and our commercial effort and our commercial team is now focused not just on our regions where where we're looking for recovery but also in our high high-performing regions, and we're looking to drive more automotive containment work and manufacturing depth. So in summary, the INM business is resilient, recurring, mission-critical, and combined with non-discretionary. We benefit from aging infrastructure and the increase in energy demands, and the megatrends Ben spoke of. We have hard-to-replicate mode. So their scale, our breadth of service, density, local labor, safety, safety history, and the deep relationships with our customers create barriers to entry. We're focused on high-value services and priority end markets, geographic expansion where we can see growth, and margin expansion through metric-driven daily focus. I'm proud of the work that I&M does within the TIC sector and look forward to supporting the 318-85 framework, and with that, I'm going to turn it over to Kurt.
Thanks, Seamus. I really appreciate that. Good morning, everyone. My name is Kurt Allen, and I have the honor of being the TIC geospatial reporting leader. Just so you know, I've kind of been in and around the geospatial profession for the last 35 years. and I've had the opportunity to watch how technology has driven mapping to geospatial. Anecdotally, I find that a lot of people don't really know exactly what geospatial is, so I wanted to take a minute to kind of go through that. You know, I go to a cocktail party or go sit on the sideline of a youth sports event, and they always ask me you know what is it that that you do and I you know other parents and I say geospatial and I get a blank look and I usually then follow up with something like mapping and they start to get it but I wanted just to take a minute to kind of talk about it and I think that Joe gave a perfect example when he's talked about Fifth Avenue about how he was really using LIDAR to scan both above ground and below ground utilities and what why was he doing that? It's because he needed that level of accuracy to understand the relationship between those features that he was collecting, and each of those features have a location. Location is the difference between geospatial data and other data. Time sometimes is also a discriminator when you talk about it. The time it was inspected, the time it was collected, the time it was last updated. That information gives users the ability to understand hidden patterns and relationships, and it allows people to make smarter data-driven decisions. So who are we? We really have the ability to acquire, analyze, and answer the most complex geospatial challenges that clients face. From an acquired perspective, we have a fleet of fixed-wing aircraft, vessels, drones, trucks, all that capability, as well as being able to task satellites or be able to use satellite data from existing collection as done by satellite providers all that gives us the ability to be able to have multiple platforms in which we can deliver to our information to our clients sensors nobody in the business has a wider array of sensors than TIC has, imagery, hyperspectral, thermal, sonar, geophysical, all that kind of information we have that ability to be able to provide to a client in which we can actually be consultative with them and be able to say, hey, here's the right platform with the right sensor in order to be able to do your project. And they appreciate that capability. From an analyzed perspective, we've been doing machine learning for 30 years. AI is kind of a new term, but it really was machine learning for a long time when we talked about remote sensing. We also have the world's leader, the world-class Envy software platform that more than half a million users around the world are using to be able to do image analysis. And that capability is second to none. From an answer perspective, we have more than 200 people that are involved with Enterprise GIS to help our clients manage our data and be able to answer the complex questions that comes with Enterprise GIS. And it gives us and our clients, we've become a safe choice for them from a selection perspective. Who we are, we're about 14% of TSE's revenue. Our client base is spread pretty widely between the commercial, the federal, and the state and regional marketplaces. We have demand drivers, just like the other segment. You know, the federal government, it's budgeted. You know, we follow the money. I'm going to talk about that a little bit more in a minute. Utilities are regulated, and our services are required. Natural resources, they're secular, not cyclical in the way that services come. And then finally, as the physical world becomes more digital, consulting engineering and I&M need us. They need our information. When you look at the end markets there, in the snapshot, just real quickly, in 2025, we earned $298 million in revenue at a 52% gross margin clip. if you look at the end market revenue you can see that our if you followed us for a couple years you can see that our commercial part of our businesses is expanding rapidly and some of that is the result of some of the headwinds we had last year in in 2025 with our federal marketplace but really really excited to see the expansion in commercial most of our revenue is from the United States, but we are expanding into Europe, Canada, and Asia. We have four geospatial offices in Europe currently, and we have three in Asia-Pacific. Megatrends, I think Alex spent a lot of time on the megatrends and stole all my thunder, but really we have end-to-end workflows for clients within each of these megatrends that are listed here. With government and defense, especially defense we're seeing an uptrend and a lot of requests a lot more requests coming from not just the United States but especially from Europe in the in the in the infrastructure area aging infrastructure there is just a huge demand to digitize the physical world number one but also be able to manage and visualize assets and that's an area that we are expanding into in water and Natural Resources, it's unfortunate, but our services are used for search and rescue and for mitigation services from natural disasters. We were instrumental in the LA fires. We were instrumental in the Kerr County flood that happened in Texas. And we are currently instrumental in, really, the recovery efforts for a lot of the hurricanes that happened in the southeast over the last three or four years. And finally, Ben kind of talked about the million linear miles of transmission line that we pick up every year. We're using LiDAR in order to be able to help them manage vegetation. Increasing energy demand means there's going to be more of that in the future. We're about 1,500 employees. We've done work in all 50 states. We've completed projects in all seven continents. Our software has been to Mars. And our software is also used by a lot of medical device So if you ever need an MRI, I hope no one does. But if you ever do, you just realize that our software is being used to do that. So I wanted to spend a moment to talk about two projects that are ongoing right now. When I mentioned that the federal government has a budget and we follow the money, what happened is last year is people know about Doge, knew about some of the federal headwinds we had, but we followed the money. We paid attention to what this administration's priorities were, and we positioned ourselves for one of the largest projects we've ever undertaken. And that is really, there's an energy, there's a real push right now to find and extract critical minerals for our country, for national security reasons in particular, but certainly for everything from your iPhones to electric vehicles and batteries. We are following the money in terms of being able to do work, project work for the U.S. Geological Survey on land, but now they also are looking at the marine environment. And so we were able to successfully be tasked with collecting sonar data in the middle of the Pacific. That sonar collection was about the size of Louisiana, and the average water depth was about 6,000 meters. Just in case anyone doesn't know about sonar, but maybe you're a movie buff. You think of The Hunt for Red October with Sean Connery when he talks to his executive officer and says I need to determine the range to target one ping only please anybody has seen that movie went one ping is a sound pulse and we're using sound in order to be able to get that return in order to be able to understand what's on the seat bed floor we did that whole area in terms of multi collecting multi-beam data to be able to get good mapping information but we also use remotely operated vehicles 5,000 feet deep 5,000 meters deep because the closer you get to this to the to the to the seafloor the more accurate the data is they wanted they wanted sample range areas because all this information that I'm collecting for our client in this case it's NOAA all that information is gonna be put into the public domain because they are planning to lease the mineral rights for this area and I think that this is an opportunity that's going to repeat itself and it and I think we're uniquely positioned to do that finally if you looked at the left of this of the slide you can see what they call what we call core samples we did core sampling as well and being able to pull up things from the seabed so that so that scientists could look at what was in the seabed and to be able to determine really what what's really down there and And so they had nickel, magnesium, and cobalt is what they picked up. They come in nodules, and you can see like a big rock there. They're about this size typically, and that is pure critical mineral, as opposed to in the land when you're excavating critical minerals, you might have to take tons of fill before you just get a little of the critical mineral. So it's a real difference maker. By the way, they also got some paleontologists very, very excited because we found megalodon teeth in the core sample as well. This project is with Western Utility. We've been doing work for them for years. Really, I wanted to talk about this contract because we get this work sole source to us currently, and that is because we're the only firm that can acquire and process 150 linear miles of transmission lines twice a year each time within 90 days of collection. Within 14 days we give our clients what we call rapid reporting or a first look at the preliminary data in order to be able to understand what's what where vegetation needs to be trimmed. They use it to prioritize their crews to go out and trim vegetation and then in 90 days we actually give them all the final deliverables. The quality of our data and the scale of really what we undertake is why this work is sole source to us. Why we win? I mentioned really kind of that end-to-end solution that we have, the breadth and depth of our capabilities. We also have some additional discriminators, I think, that I wanted to mention. Number one is we're a safety-oriented culture. We are what we call ISBAO certified for our drones as well as for our fixed-wing aircraft. ISBAO is the gold standard for safety management in the aviation marketplace. We are the only ones that are Stage 3 certified currently, and that is amongst all of our competition. It's a huge discriminator, especially when we're working with utilities, because they have to approve and do an audit of our safety management plan before they allow us to do work. Secondly is we own our sensors in our aircraft. That's a big discriminator as well because it allows us to be able and we also have in-house maintenance which allows us to improve our efficiency and reduce our downtime. Big difference. From an analyzed perspective I mentioned that 30 years of deep learning experience as well as the NV analysis tools that we have, we are known for our advanced analytics we have a reputation for it and then finally you know the the decision tools we have for GIS it's world-class and right now we're working for most federal agencies in the United States but we're also expanding into Europe in particular with NATO the European Space Agency in a number of ministries the defense okay everyone wants to know about AI so just to come out with it, AI is no longer optional for geospatial organizations, so our clients are all looking at it in a big way. The true transformation ahead, though, is not about embedding AI into isolated tasks. It's about accelerating insight and scaling operations to support more confident decision-making. GeoAI is specific. It's multi-modal, it's multi-scale, and it's consumed across disconnected systems. Clients require architecture, not add-ons. We're developing GeoAI to become part of an operational backbone and to orchestrate data and workflows across systems and to be able to have informed decisions. And Gentic AI goes beyond assistance and we believe we're the first to market with products that can plan, orchestrate, and execute workflow autonomously and coordinate across systems. We have developed GOAI agents on both the desktop and the enterprise. Just really briefly on the desktop we have IDL agent allows us to do supervised Vibe coding and then NV agent allows allows us to open the total addressable market for NV. You don't have to be an imaging scientist with a PhD in order to be able to do it because we're using a conversational interface and or a large language model in order to be able to get at our NV tools. The big news is GeoAgent, and that is because it's an orchestration platform. I look at GeoAgent, and I think we're the only ones doing it, and that is it sits on top of your systems of record. That's the way to think about it. Anthropic has developed a standard called Model Context Protocol, or MCP. Think of MCP as a handshake to the systems of record, in which using that standard, we can connect to those systems of record. Because in a geospatial environment, you may have geospatial data in a lot of different systems or non-geospatial data that you want to relate to. So you look at an Esri or an Autodesk. Right now, they're currently using AI to improve tools and to make their software more efficient. And Alex's team is going to definitely benefit from that during their day-to-day usage of the software. but they're not looking across their systems they're still in their black box we think we're the only ones that are coming out with an orchestration platform to be able to allow you at you know at through an LLM through a kind of conversational interface to be able to get a different disparate data sets finally in GeoIQ the way I describe GeoIQ is I call it you know I basically call but the ability to be able to do spatial reasoning from it. If you think about, well, actually, has anybody used an LLM and asked a really complex question, and you just watched the dial spin for a couple of minutes as it's trying to figure out how to give you an answer? That's because it's scraping the entire internet to try to give you that complex answer. What GeoIQ allows us to do is act at speed, because it targets the data lake that you're trying to pull information from. That's especially important for you when you think about the Department of War in particular. They have so much data. One of our clients is the Army geospatial data. Their primary mission, or one of their primary missions, is mobility. They want to be able to have mobility for the warfighter. In this case, it meant tanks. They wanted to understand, can I move across this property or this soil type and be able to get my Abrams from point A to point B in a manner that is beneficial to the warfighter? Or can that tank cross this bridge? Well, if their data lake, which is so huge, they can't get that answer very easily. GeoAgent gives them the ability to be able to do that. And then with GIOQ, it targets it and be able to give that kind of answer very quickly. And if you think about the person who's asking that question, It's typically a 19-year-old analyst that just has some basic training in terms of how to do that. We can now, with confidence, be able to get them that answer. And so what we're doing is really, and this is the point I want to make about GeoAgent in particular and GeoIQ, is the deployment is services-led, and it's not plug-and-play. We're dealing with complex data lakes from major clients, and we're focusing initially on our existing clients. they're all trying to get AI ready they're all shopping right now but the reality is is we have to go from readiness assessment to implementation to deployment in order to be able to get that done the good news is the good news is those those opportunities are going to be very large they're going to be spending they're not forget the software SAS part of that or the subscription part of the of it really it's going to be services led the the The only thing we have to be patient about is the sales cycle is going to be longer because on the federal side or on the state side, we have to deal with budgets. On the commercial side, certainly they have to figure out exactly what they want from an AI-ready perspective when they're ready to pull the trigger. But the interest on geo-agent is extremely high. We just did a workshop the other day and had more than 400 clients on that workshop. So I'm very excited about where we're going with this. Then finally, we need to automate our workflows internally. And it's still early days yet, but we're in the process of really looking for repetitive tasks where we can use AI to improve the efficiency of our workflows. We believe that's going to really drive margins for us. over the next couple of years. And with that, I'm going to let, I'll summarize real quick, but I'm going to get Kevin lined up. Three things I wanted to leave you with. Number one is because of the breadth and depth of our services and our full stack capabilities. Clients appreciate it. Our sophisticated clients really appreciate it. Secondly is the megatrends that we discussed across defense, infrastructure, natural resources, and energy. you know they demand digitization and and really we just like still engine or consulting engineering we're going to be there for them and then finally we believe we're first the market with geo AI capabilities from an orchestration platform and we think we are going to stay ahead of the crowd and be able to implement what we say we're going to do thank you thanks Kurt great job my name
is Kevin White I'm the vice president for corporate development and over the next few minutes I'd like to walk you through our approach to M&A and how we use it in a disciplined structured framework to drive long-term value creation for the business so M&A is a core growth engine at tick solutions and it will be a critical component or contributor to driving our 31885 framework. And you heard a lot of my teammates talk about the importance of M&A in their business segments. And so it is a really critical aspect to our business. To fuel our growth engine, the tick solutions plans to deploy 100 to 150 million dollars of capital annually to execute transactions in one of two broad categories those being both on acquisitions and platform acquisitions so for me I'm extremely excited to hear that obviously because of the role I feel but I think my teammates are also very excited about that plan so with respect to bolt-on acquisitions think about strengthening what we already do so increasing size scale density being able to integrate quickly because of the low complexity of the transactions on the other hand platform acquisitions are all expansion new services new geographies new end markets and generally new growth pillars that are going to move the business forward and continue to evolve that business whether a bolt-on transaction or a platform acquisition they both say serve the same purpose which is driving the growth of the business and long-term value creation so what is an attractive M&A target look like to us you know how do we evaluate it how do we prioritize it we start with a really basic question which is how does that target how does that opportunity make us a better company and we answer that question through three strategic lenses which I think you've probably heard a lot of my teammates talk about it as well and I alluded to in a last slide but it's capabilities and markets and geographies so how do we get better at where we operate how do we get better with the clients we serve and how do we get better at what we do that's really what we're looking to establish is what a target or opportunity brings to us so how do they strengthen the platform how do they add strategic value so once we've established this we apply screening criteria and we look to prioritize the efforts based on on fit essentially we're looking at now this next stage of establishing the fit within the organization so first we look at strategic fit you know how aligned is the target and opportunity with tick solutions work profile low capex requirements highly recurring work highly visible revenue streams technical in nature mandatory non-discretionary those are sort of the work profile that we're looking for but also in that strategic fit we're looking at how does the target or opportunity align with the strategic segments strategies and businesses that have been talked about in the previous slides So, you know, you see on the charts here to the right, there's some recent M&A focus areas, but at a high level, it really is, I think Seamus's slide had a really good example of it. It showed that it's focusing on accessing or strengthening or expanding high-value services, priority end markets, and geographic white space. So when we think about the geographic white space, we've heard about bringing CE and GEO into Canada, or focusing CE opportunities in the mid-Atlantic and Texas from a end market perspective it's really about being able to take advantage of those mega trends we talked about so entering high demand markets like utilities and data centers and from a service side it's about the high growth services that we offer so think rope access, digitization, building commissioning, things like that. So that's establishing the strategic fit. The second part is our cultural fit. We're looking at the cultural fit of the business. So we're looking for businesses that are well-run, strong teams, great leaders, who are willing to stay on beyond the transaction, that they would like to be part of the next stage of that growth of that business and we go a little bit further than that as well in the sense that we look for a culture of caring that exists in these organizations that we're looking to acquire and a culture of caring to us is pretty simple it's do they care about the work they do do they care about their clients do they care about their employees do they care about doing a good job? Do they care about competing and winning each and every day in whatever arena that might be? And to the extent that that culture doesn't exist, it's generally not an acquisition we're interested in doing. And the third and final sort of fit or screening criteria we look at is internal integration capacity of our teams. So when I meet with our operations teams, I often talk about executing M&A from strength. And what I mean by that is we will allocate capital on a priority basis to businesses that are performing well, have strong leadership and high-functioning teams that can not only integrate a business, but they can also take advantage and execute on the commercial and operational synergies and strategies that have been identified through that process. So that really, hopefully, illustrates to you our disciplined approach to evaluating deals, how we prioritize them to make sure we're working on the right deals, and really, as we say, ensure that we're doing the right deals, not just any deals. Grab a drink of water here. OK, so I want to shift to sourcing and execution and talk a little bit about our advantage here. And I talk about it in the context of it's rooted in our one team approach here. Although M&A is centrally coordinated within our organization, our operations leaders are heavily involved in the process, especially the sourcing and execution side. And this generally works because we act really as one integrated team. our leaders are very active in their markets they have deep knowledge and they're often able to identify validate and shape opportunities well before sellers are even thinking about selling and largely before formal processes have begun so that one team model creates early access to potential sellers and opportunities and it allows us to have stronger insight into the operating business it allows us to build relationships early with those sellers and for the long term so through this process and this sort of collaborative process between operations and and corporate development and M&A sellers increasingly view tick solutions as strategic long-term home for both their employees and the business as a whole and they view us less like you know just another I'll call it like strategic buyer or I mean financial buyer so when closing our one team approach strengthens our ability to win the deals we want to win regardless of the sourcing channel that they come through I'll be trying to be briefer on this one this is all about the proof so I've talked about our process and how it works and I have two sets of data up here the data on the left illustrates our track record over the past five years of executing deals at attractive multiples while maintaining focus on margin accretion the data on the right is representative of the deals that have closed in 25 in the first quarter of 26 and it just is a example of how those acquisitions are strengthening our platform across those three strategic segments that we talked about. Additionally, we have closed or have a number of targets under LOI today that are expected to close in 30 to 60 days, which will bring our planned capital allocation for basically halfway through the year up to over half of our planned target deployment for 2026. So why does all that matter, and I think it's pretty straightforward, is that this really illustrates that we have a repeatable, reliable engine that can deliver results. And we have a strong-looking forecast for 26, and it gives us a high degree of confidence that our M&A engine is going to be able to help deliver on our 31885 framework. So my last slide here talks about, I think probably a lot of people have heard this at closing a deal is the easy part but how you integrate it is where the value is really created and so we truly believe this as well integration is extremely important aspect of our M&A process and it's held widely held throughout the organization so we have four four sort of strategies here in terms of how we integrate the first is we use a custom playbook, but a consistent process. We make sure that we're driving priorities, accountabilities through that playbook, and that drives consistency in our integration results. Secondly, we leverage our platform. We scale infrastructure, systems, and our expertise to allow the leaders of the acquired companies to spend time in front of clients, employees, where that time really matters. The third item here is about customer expansion and cross-selling. You've heard a lot of my teammates talk about this. Every deal we do has some strategic value rooted in the commercial collaboration opportunities that exist in the combination. And mobilizing that strategy within the first month is absolutely essential to unlocking the value of the transaction. And finally, from a fourth item, I've talked about this earlier, we use a one-team approach. We are lockstep with our operations partners. They're involved from the beginning right through the end, and obviously they're involved in the integration aspect. And so their team really lays the groundwork for operational alignment through this process to drive performance and long term long term results with the combined combined businesses so stepping back I hope I was able to illustrate to you that our organization is committed to deploying significant capital to fund our M&A growth engine we have a discipline and structured framework to ensure we're doing the right deals. We employ a one team approach which we believe is unique to provide us a sourcing and execution advantage so that we can execute on the deals we really want to do and we have a track record and strong forecast that gives us high degree of confidence that we're going to be able to continue to drive long-term value creation and growth for the business. And finally, we have a really detailed process for how we integrate businesses and not only preserve the value that we've acquired, but unlock future value. With that, I'd like to turn over to our CFO, Kristen Schultes, who will walk you through a financial update.
Thanks, Kevin. Nice job. Kevin, we're going to have a fun and busy next couple of years with this. So good Good morning, everyone. I'm Kristen Schultes, CFO of Tick Solutions, and over the next few minutes, I'm going to connect everything that you heard this morning from our amazing leaders to the 2029 financial performance framework. I have tremendous confidence in this team's ability to deliver for three reasons. One, we have clarity on where we're going and how we're going to get there. Two, we have momentum. I hope you heard that this morning. In fact, I could feel it. The momentum we have in this business is real. And lastly, we're leading with discipline, both operational discipline and financial discipline. 3-18-85. 3 billion in revenue, 18% adjusted EBITDA, and 85% free cash flow conversion. Quick story. Some of you may know I spent a number of years at API Group, including time during its formative years as a public company. At the time, we were growing and learning together. And at the time, there was their first investor day as well, where they also set a framework, a three-number framework, happened to be 136080, which is forever ingrained in my mind. And it's coming out of that investor day, that three-number framework started showing up everywhere. It showed up in conversations, It showed up in written communications, and it showed up in Teams meetings and in hallway conversations. And at the time, it felt both aspirational and maybe even a little repetitive. But the reason I bring that up is because it worked. It united the team around objectives and goals, and everyone knew that the work that they were doing on a daily basis either helped put us in that direction or not, and it drove decisions. Quick API fun fact, the TIC team and the API group team just were awarded the first project that they collaborated on together just last week. And both the project team shared with me that without the collaboration that we were doing together, neither team would have won that scope of work. So very exciting. Anyway, I'm very excited to rally the TIC team around our own three-number framework, 31885. So let's get into it. I'm going to cover three things this morning. I'm going to double-click and deep-dive into the financial performance framework metrics. I'm going to touch on the MV5 Acura and merger integration and how that's progressing. And lastly, I'm going to speak about our capital allocation deployment framework. Tying this together, you can see from a revenue growth perspective, we're going from $2.1 billion to $3 billion. That represents an 11% CAGR based on our 2026 exit. And we spoke today about the growth we have from the tailwinds in the megatrends that we mentioned. Aging infrastructure, increasing energy demands, data consumption, and the digitization of the physical world. These goals are achievable, and we touched on that today. At the same time, we plan to expand margins by 320 basis points, from 14.8% in 2025 to 18% adjusted EBITDA in 2029. This is going to come from mix, pricing, and operational discipline. And lastly, with our 85% adjusted free cash flow metric, we have both opportunity and flexibility. Now let's double click on the revenue growth. This is balanced between M&A and organic growth. You can see here that from a consulting engineering perspective, Alex touched on this, we're planning on 7% to 9% organic growth within that business. strong end market strength within infrastructure, data centers, and also focus on higher margin work. In inspection and mitigation, Seamus touched on the inspection mitigation recovery in the U.S. He talked about growing through higher service lines, expansion in higher service lines and end markets. And Kurt touched on using our proprietary technology to support the digitization efforts throughout the world. Dan also did a great job of touching on the upside and early momentum we have from a cross-selling perspective, which all provides upside for our business. And on the M&A front, I'm very excited and confident in our ability to deploy capital between $100 and $150 million per year. This will really help accelerate our organic growth story. Next, let's look at margin expansion. 320 basis points, 14.8% to 18% in 2029. This reflects multiple levers working together. In the near term, we have an opportunity to focus on improved utilization within all three segments. Our technicians and our indirect costs can be better utilized in I&M. Our engineers can improve utilization within consulting engineering. And Kurt mentioned this as well, but our data capture fleet, we have an opportunity to improve utilization with that business as well. The tuck-ins we're pursuing are immediately accretive to this business. And the technology enablement opportunities that we have are real. Alex spoke about the contract review opportunities to use AI in the contract review process. We're using that today. The finance team is using AI to more quickly apply cash from a cash applications perspective. And we're continuing to drive opportunities within the supply chain and procurement efforts within the business. Structurally, we're also seeing an improvement in our SG&A leverage. You can see that. We released earnings a couple weeks ago, and we're right at the precipice of being able to scale this business. And lastly, our Synergy Capture plan has another 50 basis points of margin improvement to be had. Now let's touch on integration. So integration is something that's near and dear to my heart. Not only is this a key contributor to our margin expansion goals, it's especially important to me for two reasons. One, this isn't just a project. It's not just one and done. We're truly building something for the future. The people, the processes, the systems, they're setting us up for what's next. The next bolt-on, the next transformation opportunity, whatever it may be, sets us up. And then secondly, the team-building aspect. So integrating two businesses like this is not easy. It's very hard. There's a psychological term called shared adversity. And I imagine my team in the back here that's here is smiling when they hear the word shared adversity because this is something that what we're doing together is hard, but it brings us together, and it sets us up for the future. Simply put, we feel that integrating business as well is a true differentiator for this business. I'm excited to say that we've actioned nearly 70% of our planned actions with regard to this merger integration. We're ahead of schedule and we'll be at a full $25 million run rate savings rate by the end of this year. The system conversions planning is in the planning phase and we'll move to execution later this year. In addition, we're tracking opportunities that could provide potential upside to this in the area of real estate consolidation, procurement, and additional headcount reductions. The third pillar of our financial performance framework is cash generation. As you all know, TIC is a high cash flow, low capex business, which drives flexibility and opportunity for our business. We are actively working on levers within the business to continue to drive efficiency with the way that we capture and collect cash. In fact, I'm proud to say our team shaved eight days off of our DSO in 2025, and there's still more opportunity to be had, especially in the area of contracts and cash applications. And additionally, as we continue to grow and scale, we'll spend less money on cash interest, and that will continue to improve cash conversion. Our model reflects $500 million worth of cumulative adjusted free cash flow during this period. And if you take the cash we have in the balance sheet today along with this cash generation, and if we spent nothing, sorry, Kevin, but if we did, we'd have a billion dollars in the bank, and that represents over half of TIC's market cap today. So let's talk about the framework, capacity and framework. It's important to note that our North Star with regard to leverage is two and a half times or less. You can see on the left here, we'll have $1.5 billion in capital capacity during this period between the cash we have on hand today, the cash we're going to generate, and additional flexibility in our leverage. Real opportunity. We're going to continue to focus on deploying that capital in high return areas of the business to accelerate our organic growth story. In addition, we're going to continue focusing on a creative M&A, and from there, we will be opportunistic with shared purchases and repayments. So to wrap up, we are transforming this business. We have reset the foundation, and we're excited to grow by winning in high demand end markets as a true lifecycle partner for our clients. The margin expansion opportunities that we have are already underway in creating value. The cash that we're going to generate is going to create meaningful opportunities to accelerate that growth. Our 2029 framework is not aspirational. It's outcomes that are already in motion, and I'm confident in this team's ability to deliver. I speak for all of us when I say we're committed to leading with discipline, accountability, and looking for ways always to raise the bar. Really excited to rally the team around 3-18-85. Thanks everyone for being here. Great job Andrew pulling this together for us, our true leader. And another thank you to Robbie and the Mariposa team. So I look forward to connecting with you during demonstrations and with that I'll turn it back to Ben for closing remarks.
Great job Kristen. Kristen said it but I'll say again I think the enthusiasm from the team and excitement I hope you can see that come through and really hope you have a clear understanding of the business and all the great things that we do and why we have a very high conviction about achieving these targets that we've put up here. We don't have any other special closing statements, but I did want to leave you with, oh actually we do, sorry, I did want to leave you with a few closing messages. So as we've talked through the segments and you've heard on the cross-selling and the M&A strategies, we'll point D to the segments. Consulting and engineering, we're in mandated, non-discretionary, high-demand work. Our backlog is growing, and we're very excited about the growth that we're seeing there. In inspection and mitigation, we have had some challenges. They have been concentrated in the Gulf region. You heard from Seamus some of the work that he's been doing, and I'd encourage you to have a chat to him and Jacob also, who's leading the charge with that. They've done amazing work, and we are very excited to see that get back on a growth path. We're on the front foot, and I think culturally, Just the fixes that have been made there, we're seeing people come back in, and, you know, the other parts of the business are continuing to grow, and we're very excited about it. And Geo, extremely interesting business, isn't it? We're finding Megalodon teeth on the bottom of the ocean. My daughter would love to explore that. She asked if she could get her hands on mine, actually, but we'll have to talk about that. But, look, highly scalable business that really supports the other parts of our company, and together, the power of this platform is just much greater as a combined thing. AI, it's an accelerator, it's an enabler, it's not going to replace our work. We are heavily focused in the field. Our high degree of expertise in very heavily regulated markets mean that this is something that we can use, especially with our subject matter experts being in very high demand. So for us to use that as a tool to continue to grow our business is something we're very excited about. but Kevin did a great job talking about the exciting things we have with the M&A. We work in extremely fragmented markets. It's a target-rich environment for us where we have a proven track record of doing this. Great leadership to receive those new acquisitions and help them integrate and continue to grow the business. So with that, we have our demonstrations out there, and I encourage you to get with our... I know, I know. I'm going to say that. Thank you very much. I'm well aware we're going to do Q&A, but after we're done with Q&A out here we're going to do the demos, I know you've already spent some time out there but I encourage you to talk to our team, these are real experts in the field so with that we'll open up the Q&A is there a slide that says Q&A, there you go thank you Ben, I didn't mean to freak out so everyone we will have 30 minutes for Q&A we want to hear from as many of you as possible So we ask that you try to keep things moving and keep your questions brief and tight.
Please wait for the microphone. And before your question, please state your name and your firm. Who would like to start? Could we get a mic over here, please?
Thanks, everybody. Stephanie Moore with Jefferies. Really appreciate the presentation today and all the additional color. You know, I think what was very clear was there are clear structural, as you pointed, megatrends driving demand for your services. I think you outlined your well-positioned to win, and these are critical services in a lot of instances. But I guess the follow-up question I have to that is it does come, like you're a bit at the mercy of your customers, like the work needs to be done, but maybe you're not necessarily the one driving the work. So maybe just that could be a wrong assessment, so I'd love for you to address that, but also address how you're comfortable in making sure you can deliver consistent results in a backdrop of there's a lot of demand there, but maybe you're not necessarily in control of when those services are performed. Thank you.
Well, we talked a lot about the mandated nature and that this work needs to be done, so I think that that is an absolute driving force. Look, at the end of the day, we can come up with all the strategies we want, and if our clients don't agree with that, they are pointless. So we are laser-focused. We have a heavy seller doer model we are deeply entrenched with our clients we we need to be outward facing all the time and so with that seller doer model we are very very focused on those client relationships we're deeply embedded with those and we work with them over and over again so yeah we always position ourselves for the next project with those clients we take a programmatic approach to that and so I think that that's why we're well positioned to to capture these tailwinds in the market.
Next question, please. Right there in the back.
Charlie Rose with Cruiser Capital. The question I have is labor intensity. Can you talk about what your goals are in terms of revenue or EBITDA per employee? How do you elevate the productivity of the company and maybe talk about it by segment? Are there certain segments of the business that lend themselves to more automation or more computerization or AI, please?
Yeah, if we sort of point to each of the different segments, and I'll let Alex, Kurt, and Seamus sort of pile on a little bit here, too. But within consulting and engineering, I mean, we see that as probably one of the biggest areas to move the needle with AI. I mentioned earlier eliminating some of the more mundane things that we do and equipping our subject matter expertise with enabling them to do more. Some of the work we do is time and materials with multiples, as Alex talked about. So, you know, our revenue per head, you know, tends to be fairly tied. Other parts, like the data center work, is fixed fees. So the more that we can command a better fee through our value proposition, we can increase our labor per head. You know, we have done a lot of offshoring as well. So in the past, you know, that has brought our revenue per head down a little bit. We pay much less, but, you know, we can't command the same amount of fees. Within geo, we have a lot of opportunity to move the needle. If we think about flying a plane, it's 30 people for every hour that that plane flies. So the more that we can utilize the equipment, as Kristen talked about, is an enabler for us to grow there. Inspection mitigation is largely hourly, and I think a big focus of Seamus' has been bringing down the overhead and driving the needle that way. So if you guys want to add a little bit to that.
I have a practical example. A lot of the work that we do is corrosion survey-based, taking radiographs, and the faster we can take those radiographs and the faster we can process them and drive value for the client, the quicker we're done a corrosion survey for the year. We have examples where we've dropped customer price by 80%, so it allows them to do more corrosion survey but increase our margin at the same time by incentivizing our technicians and incentivizing the customer and us to do faster work. And we see that consistently with our largest enterprise customers. They're looking for value outside of just the labor price. Yeah, and if you look at AI enablement and using that to support modalities and support the analysis of those images, we can accelerate that.
Are there some commonalities to the APG situation, to this situation in terms of labor productivity that we should be benchmarking, please?
Yeah, that's a good question. I think when it comes, the way I think about it is in inspection mitigation, the biggest opportunity we have for margin expansion is to focus on the higher margin end markets and service lines that Seamus mentioned. Our rope access business was up 10% this quarter. Our engineering and lab work was up double digits this quarter, and focusing on those is really the driver of margin expansion. Turning to CE and GEO with more fixed fee work, the focus is on project execution and driving margin expansion that way, which aligns with the project-based side of the API business.
I'm sorry we'd like to get a few more questions from a few other folks why don't we do Andy yeah so Andy Whitman from Baird I guess just a question on the CI business or the the inspection mitigation business how you know there's a lot of information that you're always collecting that didn't need to get back to customers how important is a software platform to delivering those results efficiently is that in the plan how much do you have today a result that helps deliver these results it seems like this is a big area where there's actually probably a lot of cost tied up and a room for automation particularly with the advent of AI so I was just hoping somebody could talk about that and where you are today and where you are going maybe in the future.
Thank you. There's a lot of work that we do over and over again so that any efficiency that we can gain out of software and tools to enable us is going to be a needle mover for the business. Maybe Shamus has given an update on what we've been working on there.
Yeah, we're quite focused on it. We developed an internal tool, Ares, in the past. We found that with the advancements in AI, the ability to develop that program and advance it is just exponential. We are collecting data digitally today through digital radiographs, phased array, and collecting that data and then analyzing it and turning it back to the customer to drive deeper insights is critical to our future position and to drive deeper enterprise relationships with the large customers.
Could I get Jeff right here?
Thank you. It's Jeff Martin with Roth Capital Partners. I wanted to dive into the opportunity as well as the challenges in geographic expansion, particularly in Canada with no infrastructure or engineering and no geospatial presence. How do you envision that from both an opportunity and a risk perspective?
Yeah, I mean, M&A will definitely be a tool. You know, we have the exchange rate sort of works against us in terms of leveraging our expertise from the U.S. into Canada. At the same time, we have fantastic leadership up in Canada that we're absolutely going to tap into as we look at M&A opportunities, which we actively are. And then the deep bench of expertise that we do have in the US, while the cost of it doesn't travel well to Canada, the track record and the resume absolutely does and will support the businesses that we acquire up there. And then geospatial travels very well. In fact, our planes are certified to fly up there and we're exploring a number of opportunities with the entities that we now have at our fingertips up there. So I think that that's a lot more sort of scalable side that we can grow more easily without acquisition.
We have a more targeted approach, too, to capital allocation. There are certain service hubs that we want to have the capabilities within, and we know the type of services that we want to add the bench for. But regardless, we have a very refined list of sort of our target universities or tuck-ins by nature, and it's complementary to what we already do in the U.S. So we know we have the SMEs already in the U.S. It's just about getting the Canadian labor force to execute on.
Next question, please. Let's do Alex.
Thank you very much. Do you see the capital cost of AI and drones and technology to become an accelerator to consolidation? And therefore, when we think about your M&A targets and goals, is there upside if that capital cost increases for particularly smaller private competitors?
So, sorry, I didn't really fully understand the question. The capital cost of the equipment that the, okay. I mean, these are all tools that we see as, you know, you heard Seamus talk about robotics. Obviously, in geospatial, we have acquisition tools. For us, it's really how do we get our hands on the data and then do something meaningful with that. You know, we definitely want to focus. We talk about our strategy around this 85% free cash flow, maintain a low CapEx operating model. So the equipment that we have, we want it to be fully utilised, and then we'll outsource beyond that.
Yeah. I think scale builds moats in general. So as we become early adopters and early winners with the adoption of those technologies, yeah, it should unlock opportunities for those who cannot keep up with the investment needed and the know-how to implement those tools.
Next question, please.
Let's do Brian Beers.
Hey, Brian with Thompson Research Group. You talked about recurring revenues today. I mean, you have MSAs. Some of your work is mandated. Some of it's just done because the implication of failure is so high that you would do it anyway. I guess, what does recurring revenue mean to you? Like, how do you define it? Is there any differences between the three segments? And is there a proportion of the business that you would classify as recurring versus non-recurring?
Yeah, so recurring for us is either repeat work with the same client. It's repeat work on the same asset, like the million miles of power lines that we fly. And in some cases, the software revenue that we have is recurring from a subscription perspective. So you're right, it is different across the different segments, but it's absolutely sort of what we see as forecastable. With the data center work that we do, they sit us down and say, this is our plan for the next five years. So it's heavily forecastable. repeat.
Let's do Josh Chen.
Thank you, Josh Chen with UBS. If you look at your organic growth targets by segment, which of those targets do you feel like will require you to kind of stretch the growth rate versus the historical, and which of the targets do you feel like it's right in line with history?
And then kind of relatedly, how much of that 7% to 9% growth in CE is what you're embedding for data centers thank you yeah I think the the target that we've set is a high conviction number I think mid single digits overall is is an okay number but it's not
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Alex Hawkman: Thank you, Joe. So when we look at our growth, what do we see? That we've already penetrated some great markets, and really the intent is to continue to grow and build out those markets. Our long-term strategy absolutely aligns with the megatrends of the…
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Hi, my name is Keith. I lead the International Planning and Design business, and I'm also based in Hong Kong. And for context, Hong Kong is our regional headquarters for our international business.
We do about 80 million in data center right now, and 80% of that is from our APEC stronghold. And for context, again, we work with the eight of the top 10 hyperscalers in the world. I'm going to take you through a journey on how we capitalise on this megatrend. 300 billion is the amount of capital flowing into data…
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And as an example, we recently got work in Osaka, where our client, in that typical place, Osaka, Japan, where that typical place, it would take two or three years to just get the design going and another two or three years to build it. But we did it in another year. We completed the design another year. And that's the…
Speed to market is very, very important to the data center client right now. And from another example, we started a relationship with one of the biggest hyperscalers in Singapore. From that, that grew into Jakarta, Osaka, into Seoul in Korea. We're having conversation of working in Australia, and they really want us in…
Well, I want to talk about the current boom of AI adoption and how does it mean the power intensity, and how does it mean, what does it mean to revenue and margins for us I'm an electrical engineer I've been designing data centers for the past 15 20 years 15 20 years ago a sizable data center will be probably a size of…
This gives us a very good luxury to look into different business and select those that we want to in-house, whether organically or we use them to feed our M&A engine, which Kevin will come into. This is very good because rather than qualifying a candidate during due diligence, we have worked with them before so that we…
Right, and this slide will talk about our service penetration across the region and across the segments and across the whole life cycle, from planning up to design, operation, and optimisation. If you just look at the first role, which is consulting engineering, you can see that we're pretty embedded and the shades are…
We've done it before, from 1% to 10%. We are very confident that we'll either continue our trajectory or even beat it. With that, back to you, Alex.
Alex Hawkman: An honourable mention goes to our asset digitisation. It is a very up-and-coming market. For us, it's a very nascent technology. David Black is here in the room, and he is actually demonstrating this particular technology. One of the things that's so…
How do you, you know, there's a, I was talking to somebody that was legal for a large EPC, and they told me an acronym, RTFC.
Alex Hawkman: Has anybody heard that? It stands for read the contract. Now, if the contract is hundreds of pages, realistically, how can you do it? We have an AI tool that I've loaded up a contract that's over 1,000 pages. It gave me a risk register. It allowed me to…
Also speaking: Speaker 11, Seamus Sullivan, Kevin White
Thanks, Seamus. I really appreciate that. Good morning, everyone. My name is Kurt Allen, and I have the honor of being the TIC geospatial reporting leader. Just so you know, I've kind of been in and around the geospatial profession for the last 35 years. and I've had the opportunity to watch how technology has driven…
Kevin White: is Kevin White I'm the vice president for corporate development and over the next few minutes I'd like to walk you through our approach to M&A and how we use it in a disciplined structured framework to drive long-term value creation for the business so M&A is…
Also speaking: Kristin Schultes, Ben Harad
Thanks, everybody. Stephanie Moore with Jefferies. Really appreciate the presentation today and all the additional color. You know, I think what was very clear was there are clear structural, as you pointed, megatrends driving demand for your services. I think you outlined your well-positioned to win, and these are…
Ben Harad: Well, we talked a lot about the mandated nature and that this work needs to be done, so I think that that is an absolute driving force. Look, at the end of the day, we can come up with all the strategies we want, and if our clients don't agree with that, they…
Charlie Rose with Cruiser Capital. The question I have is labor intensity. Can you talk about what your goals are in terms of revenue or EBITDA per employee? How do you elevate the productivity of the company and maybe talk about it by segment? Are there certain segments of the business that lend themselves to more…
Ben Harad: Yeah, if we sort of point to each of the different segments, and I'll let Alex, Kurt, and Seamus sort of pile on a little bit here, too. But within consulting and engineering, I mean, we see that as probably one of the biggest areas to move the needle with AI.…
Also speaking: Seamus Sullivan, Kristin Schultes
I'm sorry we'd like to get a few more questions from a few other folks why don't we do Andy yeah so Andy Whitman from Baird I guess just a question on the CI business or the the inspection mitigation business how you know there's a lot of information that you're always collecting that didn't need to get back to…
Ben Harad: Thank you. There's a lot of work that we do over and over again so that any efficiency that we can gain out of software and tools to enable us is going to be a needle mover for the business. Maybe Shamus has given an update on what we've been working on there.
Also speaking: Seamus Sullivan, Andrew Shen
Thank you. It's Jeff Martin with Roth Capital Partners. I wanted to dive into the opportunity as well as the challenges in geographic expansion, particularly in Canada with no infrastructure or engineering and no geospatial presence. How do you envision that from both an opportunity and a risk perspective?
Ben Harad: Yeah, I mean, M&A will definitely be a tool. You know, we have the exchange rate sort of works against us in terms of leveraging our expertise from the U.S. into Canada. At the same time, we have fantastic leadership up in Canada that we're absolutely going to…
Also speaking: Robert Franklin, Andrew Shen, Speaker 7
Hey, Brian with Thompson Research Group. You talked about recurring revenues today. I mean, you have MSAs. Some of your work is mandated. Some of it's just done because the implication of failure is so high that you would do it anyway. I guess, what does recurring revenue mean to you? Like, how do you define it? Is…
Ben Harad: Yeah, so recurring for us is either repeat work with the same client. It's repeat work on the same asset, like the million miles of power lines that we fly. And in some cases, the software revenue that we have is recurring from a subscription perspective. So…
Also speaking: Andrew Shen
Thank you, Josh Chen with UBS. If you look at your organic growth targets by segment, which of those targets do you feel like will require you to kind of stretch the growth rate versus the historical, and which of the targets do you feel like it's right in line with history?
Ben Harad: And then kind of relatedly, how much of that 7% to 9% growth in CE is what you're embedding for data centers thank you yeah I think the the target that we've set is a high conviction number I think mid single digits overall is is an okay number but it's not