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Good morning and welcome to the American Express Global Business Travel second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. As a reminder, please note today's call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to the Vice President of Investor Relations, Jennifer Tarrington, to begin. Please go ahead when you are ready.
Hello and good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us for our second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. This morning, we issued an earnings press release, which is available on sec.gov and our website at investors.amexglobalbusinesstravel.com. A slide presentation which accompanies today's prepared remarks is also available on the Amex GBT Investor Relations webpage. We would like to advise you that our comments contain certain forward-looking statements that represent our beliefs or expectations about future events, including industry and macroeconomic trends, cost savings, and acquisition synergies, among others. All forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements made on today's conference call. More information on these and other risks and uncertainties is contained in our earnings release issue this morning and our other SEC filings. Throughout today's call, we will also be presenting certain non-GAAP financial measures, such as EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted operating expenses, free cash flow, and net debt. All references during today's call to such non-GAAP financial measures have been adjusted to exclude certain items. Definitions of these terms in the most directly comparable GAAP measures and reconciliations for non-GAAP measures are available in the supplemental materials of this presentation and in the earnings release. Participating with me today are Paul Abbott, our Chief Executive Officer, and Karen Williams, our Chief Financial Officer. Also joining for the Q&A session today is Eric Bach, our Chief Legal Officer and Global Head of M&A. With that, I will now turn the call over to Paul. Paul?
Thank you, Jennifer. Welcome to everyone and thank you for joining our second quarter 2025 earnings call. In the second quarter, we delivered financial results ahead of expectations and reached a significant milestone with the achievement of over $500 million in adjusted EBITDA over the last 12 months. Our focus on efficiency gains and driving operating leverage is clearly evidenced in our Q2 results. Adjusted operating expenses were flat, and we delivered strong adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. Increased demand for our software and services resulted in continued share gains. Total new wins value reached $3.2 billion over the last 12 months, including $2.2 billion from SME customers. And importantly, we continue to have a high customer retention rate of 95% over the last 12 months. Our commercial success, margin expansion, and improved demand environment give us confidence to raise and narrow our full-year 2025 guidance. I'm also very pleased to share an important update on our pending CWT acquisition. We reached a key milestone last week with the U.S. Department of Justice's dismissal of its challenge to the acquisition and are now positioned to complete the transaction in the third quarter. We look forward to creating even more value for customers, suppliers, and shareholders. Finally, we have a strong balance sheet with reductions in net debt and leverage. We have nearly $1 billion in available liquidity and, importantly, maintain the flexibility to pursue our capital allocation priorities after funding the CWT close, including share repurchases. Given the recent clarity on CWT, we will put a 10B51 stock repurchase plan in place under our previously announced $300 million stock repurchase program upon the opening of our trading window tomorrow. This will facilitate additional share repurchases over the next few months, signals management confidence and drives shareholder value with a strong expected return on invested capital given the current share price. So, before we get into the quarterly details, I want to reiterate how excited we are to welcome CWT customers and employees to Amex GBT. We now expect to close this transaction in the third quarter. Our experienced team is ready for the integration, and we are confident in the growth opportunity of the combined company. In addition to benefiting customers, suppliers, and colleagues, it's a compelling financial transaction. with a highly attractive post-synergy multiple. We expect to deliver approximately $155 million in identified net synergies and have a proven track record of integrating large acquisitions and achieving our synergy targets. This is a stock and cash transaction, so it will help diversify our shareholder base. CWT shareholders, which are primarily investment funds, will own approximately 10% of the combined company upon closing. The transaction is valued at $540 million on a cash-free, debt-free basis. Upon closing, approximately 50 million of shares will be issued to the CWT shareholders at a fixed price of $7.50 per share. The remaining consideration will be funded with cash on hand. Turning back to the quarter and the financial highlights. Total transaction volume was up 1% on a workday adjusted basis. Heightened macro uncertainty impacted April. But I am pleased to say that demand improved in May and June. So the quarter results overall were slightly above our expectations. TTV, or total transaction value, which reflects both volume and price, grew 3% on a workday adjusted basis to reach $7.9 billion. dollars this was driven by transaction growth modestly higher average ticket prices and hotel room rates and a favorable fx impact revenue was up one percent to reach 631 million dollars for the quarter which was above our guidance midpoints our focus on margin expansion and operating leverage resulted in adjusted EBITDA growth of four percent to 133 million with strong margin expansion of 70 basis points year over year to reach 21%. Turning to the transaction growth in more detail, macroeconomic uncertainty resulted in a modest year over year decline in corporate travel demand in April. This impact was temporary and our transaction growth inflected back to positive territory up 2% in May and June combined. We continue to see green shoots into July that give us confidence that the demand environment has improved. And as a reminder, these growth rates are all workday adjusted, which helps neutralize the year-over-year timing impact of EASTA. Transaction growth remained stronger with global multinational customers and was up 3% in May and June. SME customers reached 2% growth, a significant improvement versus April. Air transactions stabilized in May and June after declining modestly in April. This trend was most pronounced in regional and international air routes. Domestic air routes were more stable during the period. Hotel transactions also saw an encouraging acceleration to reach 4% growth in May and June. So once again, hotel transactions outpaced air. Our strategy to increase our hotel revenues is working well. Finally, on a regional basis, transaction growth in the Americas reached 2% in May and June, and EMEA transactions improved dramatically from April to reach 3% in May and June. Importantly, our growth continued to outpace the industry. Our strong net new wins impact contributed two percentage points of transaction growth in May and June. The trends you see here on slide nine are global multinational customers' same-store transaction growth rates. So they isolate what is happening on a like-for-like basis and do not include the benefit of net new wins. All of our major industry verticals demonstrated sequential improvement from April to May and June. IT, pharma, business, professional and financial services posted growth in May and June. Industries with greater exposure to tariffs, mining, oil, consumer goods and retail continue to see slower demand. The automotive industry saw the sharpest decline in transaction growth, but improved substantially from April to May and June. And as previously mentioned, on top of same-store sales growth, our strong net new wins contributed to percentage points of transaction growth in May and June. So demand has improved in line with the commentary from major U.S. airlines. In our most recent Top 100 customer survey, macro uncertainty seems to be moderating. with customers seemingly less concerned or increasingly neutral on the impact of tariffs. We have seen little by way of tangible customer actions taken in terms of travel policy restrictions. Spend outlooks across industry verticals remains mixed. Technology and financial services look strong. Conversely, consumer manufacturing, energy and mining look softer. finally our meetings and events business is performing well and this is important because it tends to be a forward-looking indicator we currently anticipate a five percent year-over-year increase in the number of meetings in the second half of this year so let me close by summarizing the key highlights of the quarter we again delivered on our commitments with q2 results ahead of expectations. We raised our full-year guidance. We are excited to close the CWT acquisition in Q3, and we can now accelerate share repurchases to demonstrate our confidence in the business. And now I'd like to hand it over to Karen to discuss the financial results and the updated 2025 outlook in more detail.
Thank you, Paul, and hello, everyone. Before we get into the specifics for the quarter, I want to reflect on the progress we have made in Q2. I am incredibly pleased with our continued momentum in driving the business forward. We delivered financial results ahead of expectations, exceeding the guidance midpoints we previously communicated. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded. We continued to invest and importantly, we have reached a pivotal inflection point in our financial strategy. The announcement of CWT last week will accelerate our strategic ambitions and enables us to execute on our share repurchases, deploying capital in a disciplined, value-accretive manner. So let's turn to our financial performance in more detail. Revenue reached $631 million, up 1% year over year. The increase in total revenue was driven by modest growth in transactions and TTV, increased product and professional services revenue, and favourable foreign currency impact. On a constant currency basis, revenue was largely flat year over year. revenue yield which we define as revenue divided by TTV was eight percent this was down 10 basis points year over year but in line with expectations reflecting the non-TTV driven components of the revenue base and a continued strategic shift to more digital transactions which has a downward impact on yield but a positive impact on our adjusted EBITDA margin. I am incredibly pleased with the momentum we continue to see across the enterprise when it comes to our focus on driving efficiency and increasing productivity. Our traveller care costs per transaction, our productivity metric improved by 5% year over year in the quarter. Adjusted operating expenses were flat year over year and actually 2% down on a constant currency basis and so putting these together adjusted EBITDA grew 4% to 133 million and our adjusted EBITDA margin grew 70 basis points year over year to reach 21%. We continued to see momentum when it comes to cash generating 27 million of free cash flow in the quarter. Free cash flow declined year-over-year due to one-time elements of the Agencia working capital benefits in the prior year as well as increased investments. Finally moving to the balance sheet, I'm incredibly proud of the strength of our balance sheet. Our net debt declined 70 million year-over-year and our leverage ratio or net debt divided by last 12 months adjusted EBITDA continued to decline to 1.6 times as of June 30, 2025, down from two times one year ago and 3.5 times two years ago. And so, with our balance sheet in a strong position, we are confident to execute on our M&A agenda while also initiating our share repurchase program. This dual-track approach reflects our confidence in the underlying strength of the business and our commitment to driving long-term shareholder value. So taking a closer look at our expense line items, we can clearly see how we are hitting the mark on the factors in our control. Cost of revenue went down 2% in the quarter, and general and administrative costs went down 14%. This enabled us to grow our sales of marketing costs by 13% and technology and content by 8% while keeping costs strongly in control. So our efficiency gains are enabling us to make continued investments for driving future growth and productivity. Now moving to guidance, the improved demand environment, our Q2 performance, share gains and strong margin expansion give us confidence to raise and narrow our full year 2025 guidance. As a reminder, our updated guidance does not include the impact of the CWT acquisition, which we now expect to close in Q3. We will provide updated guidance, including the impact of CWT, on our next earnings call in November. We are now guiding to full-year revenue growth of 2% to 4% year-over-year, with the midpoint up 3 percentage points to $2.488 billion. This is a significant improvement versus our previous revenue guidance, which had a wider range of minus 2% to up 2% and reflects our confidence. Now, it's important to note our updated guidance midpoint incorporates expectations for 4% revenue growth in H2, which is four percentage points higher than our previous expectations. expectations. Approximately half of this increase is driven by improvements in recent trends and our performance and half is driven by FX which as a reminder does not fall through to adjusted EBITDA due to our natural hedge. We continue to expect a modest decline in revenue yield as we intentionally increase our mix of higher margin digital transactions. We are now guiding to full year adjusted EBITDA growth of 6 to 13 percent or 505 million to 540 million with a full year midpoint of 523 million. We now expect strong adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of 80 to 180 basis points year over year or 130 basis points at the midpoint to 21 percent this reflects our strong efficiency gains we're continuing to execute on our 110 million cost savings program while making incremental investments we expect to see higher volumes on an absolute basis in the third quarter versus the fourth quarter given our seasonality with september being a strong month for business travel however we expect revenue and adjusted EBITDA to be equally split across the third and fourth quarter given that Q4 is seasonally our highest revenue yield quarter. And so finally back to full year. We expect to generate a strong level of free cash flow. We are now guiding to a range of 140 million to 160 million or 150 million at the midpoint. Our capital allocation strategy remains the same but as I said earlier we have reached a pivotal inflection point in our financial strategy with CWT. As a reminder the acquisition will be funded with stock and cash on hand. We are ready to integrate CWT while maintaining a strong and flexible balance sheet and remain within our target leverage range. We are also now able to execute against our 300 million share repurchase authorization. In summary, we delivered Q2 results ahead of expectations. We raised and narrowed our four-year guidance. It's a critical moment to accelerate our strategic ambitions and deploy capital in a disciplined manner with the cwt acquisition and accelerate share repurchases we remain focused on what we can control and driving shareholder value so we can move into q a paul and i are joined by eric bock who is our chief legal officer and global head of mna operator please go ahead and open the line Thank you.
We will now begin the question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two. When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. We will make a quick pause here for the questions to be registered. And our first question comes from Lee Orwitz with Deutsche Bank.
Great. Thanks for taking the question too, if I could. So, nice improvement into the back half of the year. You guys are now pacing at low single digit FX neutral revenue growth. I guess is that still underwrite ongoing share gains at the back half of the year? And with that sort of growth still below your long-term growth algorithm, are we simply waiting for some of these more depressed customer segments to enter a better macro environment before you guys return to that longer term growth algo? And then one on sales and marketing, I guess sales and marketing expense up decently as a percentage of revenue and volume in the front half of the year. You guys are investing against growth plans. Just any more clarity on the types of investments that are being made within that line, the payback periods you expect on that, and if anything is perhaps structurally changing within your business that is perhaps necessitating a more intense sort of sales and marketing investment plan. Thanks so much.
Yeah, well, look, thanks, Lee. In terms of the share gains, yes, you should definitely expect to see continued share gains in the second half of the year. In fact, the second part of your question links to the first part. You know, we are increasing our sales and marketing investments, as you've seen, as Karen covered in the presentation. and partly that's because of the significant opportunity that we see but also partly because we are operating in a lower growth environment you know we need to accelerate the impact of net new wins and share gains and so we are hoping to see an acceleration as we get into the second half of the year and also in particular see a larger impact of net new wins on the growth rate in SME in particular. So that's why you are seeing that increase in the sales and marketing investments so that, you know, we can increase the contribution from net new wins in what is, you know, a lower growth environment. So hopefully that answers both parts of the questions.
Very clear, helpful. Thank you.
Thank you. So just as a reminder, it's star one on your telephone keypad to ask any question. The next question comes from Dwayne Fenworth with Evercore ISI.
Hey, good morning. This is Jake Gunning on for Dwayne. I understand it's still preliminary, but do you have any visibility into CWT's 2025 performance? And then are there any updated views on the timing of Synergy Capture you could provide?
Jake, on the first question, And we're not able to provide detailed information about CWT's financial performance until post-close. So we will be able to give you an update on that post-close when we announce Q3 results in November. So, yeah, I just need to be a little bit patient on that one.
On the timing.
Oh, sorry, the timing of the synergies. Apologies, Jake. No, we had obviously a little more time to pressure test the synergies. We're still very confident, you know, in the previous data that we shared. So 155 million of net synergies. So that's bottom line impact from the transaction. You know, we expect to deliver those, you know, over a three year period. and we expect to see I think it's approximately 30 percent of those synergies in the first 12 months.
Thank you and then really interesting acceleration for May and June versus April so thanks for breaking that out. How much of April do you think was weighed down by the Easter shift and then how much that acceleration was driven by U.S. travel versus other geographies and then And just one more point, the deceleration in APAC, what drove that?
Yeah, maybe just the first part. The numbers we're sharing are workday adjusted. So we tried to neutralize for the timing of Easter. Now, that's not necessarily 100% precise science, but we are adjusting for the workday difference created by Easter year over year. So you should sort of see the majority of the acceleration, you know, as being, you know, I think, a sequential improvement in May and June versus April. And then maybe pass to Karen for the second part of the question there.
So, Jake, in terms of the question, was it about the U.S. performance and also APAC?
Yes. Yeah, the chart breaks out US by region of sale, but just asking for US travel and then the deceleration in APAC from up six to one.
Yeah, so from a US perspective, as the chart shows, we saw a strengthening as we saw across the board. I think, you know, APAC, that deceleration is primarily driven by Australia, and really what we're seeing there is it really is about the timing of tariffs in that region, and also particularly around kind of the mining vertical.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Tony Kaplan with Morgan Stanley.
Hi, this is Yehuda Silverman on for Tony Kaplan. Just curious about the declines in April again. Are those decisions that are being pushed out, are they able to or expected to be recoverable now that there's a bit more clarity on restrictions and budget decisions or is it more cancellations?
Well, what you see there are transaction volumes in the month. And, you know, I think April was, you know, I would say at the height of some of the macro uncertainty in terms of both significant GDP revisions and the introduction of tariffs, if you cast your mind back to April. So, you know, I think what happened is we saw, frankly, a stabilization in May and June in terms of the macro environment and companies just getting more confident to plan. So I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily think of those transactions being recoverable. I would just think about it as being, you know, a week, a week, a month that was driven primarily by, you know, macro economic uncertainty.
Great. Got it. And just a quick follow up on the operating expenses. So, G&A notice we lower and cost of revenue also a bit lower. Can you touch on the specifics a bit more on some areas within those that you're able to lower during times that are a bit more challenging like you saw in April? Sure.
So, you know, we have talked about previously the focus in terms of productivity, efficiency, and the 110 million in terms of the cost save. And so, you know, particularly we're very proud in terms of the progress that we've made in that space in terms of cost of sales. And we've talked on the call in terms of the gains that we're seeing from a traveler care, our servicing side of things, the operations is continuing to focus in that area. but then also more broadly across the enterprise as we continue to focus in terms of the delivering against that 110 million that we've previously spoken about.
Great, thanks.
Thank you. So just as a reminder, it's our one on your telephone keypad to ask a question. The next question comes from James Goodall with Rochelle Denko.
All right, well, thanks for taking my questions. I guess just sort of following up from this in terms of the transaction charts that you gave, obviously stabilisation in the back part of Q2. How are things trending into July? We heard a number of US airlines talk about some very strong trends in corporate travel that they'd seen in the first three weeks of July when they reported. Is that something that you're seeing too? And then second question is on what's implied in terms of the guide for transaction growth in H2. I think in the Q1s, that was based on flat transaction growth the rest of the year, because that's what you were seeing from what, I guess, is implied in H2.
Yeah, maybe I'd take the first part on July trends, and Karen can chat about the numbers that are implied in the H2 guide. I mean, look, the short answer is yes, we've been pleased with the trends that we've seen in July. um you know and it's it's consistent with what obviously we are guiding to uh the second half of the year i do think though it's worth just as a reminder you know september is 40 percent of our q3 volumes so whilst it's encouraging to see um you know a stronger volumes in july um that sort of post labor day demand in september really you know is very important part of delivering the third quarter so and you know we're just a little bit um too early to call that right now uh but yes we've certainly seen some improvement and we're encouraged by that and certainly in terms of your
question around transaction and h2 assumptions obviously we talked on the call about revenue but transaction the the midpoint is two percent uh with a range of zero to four percent brilliant thanks so much thank you so just as another reminder if you would like to ask a question or any follow-up questions, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad.
Telephone keypad. A final reminder that is star one on your telephone keypad to ask a question. And as we have no further questions in the queue, I will hand back over to you, Paul, for any final comments.
Well, before closing, just a big thank you to everyone across Amex GBT for your dedication to our customers and delivering another strong quarter. We're very excited about the second half of the year and very much looking forward to welcoming the CWT colleagues and customers into Amex GBT. So thank you very much for joining us today and your continued interest in American Express Global Business Travel. Thank you, everyone.
Thank you, everyone. This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect. Have a great rest of your day.
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