Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us and welcome to the System 1 second quarter 2026 earnings call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please raise your hand. If you have dialed in to today's call, please press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute. I will now hand the conference over to Kyle Oskart, Senior Vice President of Finance.
Please go ahead thank you for standing by and welcome to the second quarter 2026 earnings conference call for system one joining me today to discuss system one's business and financial results are our co-founder and chief executive officer michael blend and chief financial officer tridavish kanabi a recording of this conference call will be available on our best relations website shortly after this call has ended i'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that during the call we will be making certain forward-looking statements this includes statements relating to the operating performance of our business, future financial results and guidance, strategy, long-term growth, and overall future prospects. We may also make statements regarding regulatory compliance matters. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those projected and implied during this call. In particular, those described in our risk factors, including in our annual report on Form 10K for fiscal year 2025, filed on March 11th, as well as the current uncertainty and unpredictability in our business, the markets, and the global economy generally. You should not rely on our forward-looking statements as predictions of future events. All forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on management's assumptions and beliefs as of the date hereof, and System 1 disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. Our discussion today will include non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA and adjusted gross profit. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for or in isolation from our GAAP results. Information regarding our non-GAAP financial measures, including a reconciliation of our non-GAAP financial measures to our most comparable historical GAAP financial measures, may be found on our Investor Relations website. I would now like to turn the conference call over to System System 1's Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Blend.
Michael Blend Thanks, Kyle. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining System 1 on our Q2 earnings call. Before diving into the corridor, I would first like to thank all of System 1's stakeholders, including our lenders and shareholders, for the approval of the debt exchange that was finalized last month. This took a lot of hard work by everyone involved. I am appreciative of our lenders' support and welcome them as preferred shareholders. The debt exchange was an important step in putting our company in a position to achieve our strategic goals, and we look forward to delivering on our vision and creating long-term shareholder value. Now, on the operating front, we made encouraging progress across our products portfolio during the quarter as we focused on audience growth and deepening user engagement. Total sessions to our owned and operated product size increased 31% year-over-year and 5% sequentially from Q1. our sessions growth comes as many other digital publishers are seeing traffic declines from ai usage and it's the result of both hard work from our team and the utility nature of our products unlike news sites or basic informational sites that are more prone to being supplanted by ai chatbots our core products are in search mapping and shopping now some of these usage gains were offset by weaker monetization from google both at our start page search engine and in our partner marketing business we continue to see volatile monetization from google with payouts and advertising coverage moving up and down as google works to improve the overall quality of its partner network now moving on to our shopping vertical coupon follow delivered a strong quarter the business saw a strong rebound in google seo helping organic sessions grow 11 versus q1 coupon follow is now the number two coupon site by organic traffic behind only reddit The business saw continued success in paid acquisition, with gross profit from paid traffic acquisition up 37% year-over-year. Coupon Follow also keeps advancing and sharpening its internal AI capabilities, delivering meaningful improvements across content quality, advertising campaign management, coupon data verification, and revenue optimization tools. Looking ahead, Coupon Follow is actively pursuing opportunities in the AI and agentic commerce ecosystems. Coupon Follow has high-quality proprietary promo code data, as well as strong affiliate relationships with our merchants. We believe our data sets can be highly valuable to a wide range of consumer apps. We expect to introduce new AI-abled commerce solutions in the near future that will further enhance the value we deliver to consumers and partners. Moving on to our geolocation vertical, the MapQuest team continues to deliver. Our display advertising performance remains strong, supported by healthy CPMs driven by our high-intent audience, the enduring trust of the MapQuest brand, and the value of our first-party data. User engagement also continues to improve, with total sessions increasing 25% year-over-year during the first half of 2026 beyond our core navigation platform we are expanding the map quest ecosystem through adjacent products including lighthouse a family safety app that recently soft launched map quest is also making meaningful investments in ai our map quest mcp server is launching this week enabling map quest navigation location data to integrate directly with ai agents and applications we believe we will be able to leverage our existing b2b partners on the mapquest platform as a sales channel to accelerate growth and adoption of these products additionally in q2 we completely revamped our road warrior delivery app which allows us to better support the needs of the drivers and small businesses that rely on the app for their day-to-day operations and moving on to our start page private search engine we continue to benefit from long-term tailwinds around consumer privacy we saw continued growth in search queries during the quarter with 11 percent sequential growth in user sessions quarter over quarter. We saw particularly strong momentum on mobile where the number of mobile app sessions increased 63 percent year over year. We're also seeing more and more web browsers and other entry points to the web electing to feature Starpage as their private search engine. Unfortunately, as I mentioned above, Starpage user growth was more than offset by declining monetization from Google. The majority of our Starpage revenue comes from users clicking on advertising we syndicate from Google. And simply put, Google has been showing fewer ads when users search on start page and paying us less for each search query. This has limited our ability to fully translate usage growth into revenue. Resolving the Google monetization issue is a big priority for us, although it is worth noting that we believe this is an industry-wide problem affecting all search engines that work with Google. Beyond our established products, we're also encouraged by the early progress within our emerging products division, where we're focused on ai driven subscription businesses while these products remain relatively small today we're seeing exceptional velocity in both product development and marketing experimentation our pace of learning has been significantly faster than we've experienced in prior product initiatives giving us confidence that this portfolio will become an increasingly meaningful contributor over time we've also started to make headway around monetization our large amount of first-party data in q2 we entered the market with our audience data product which we call IntentStream. IntentStream collects, enriches, and packages our non-private first-party data to provide brands with real-time pre-purchase intent signals. One thing to notice is Dataset does not include any data from our start page search engine where privacy remains paramount. We're in the early stages of going to market with IntentStream. We've started bringing on our first customers, and we look forward to reporting more on our progress here. Now turning to our partner network business, Q2 was a tale of two halves. During April and May, the partner network business was performing quite well and generating over $100,000 per day in net revenue. At the end of May and early June, Google pushed a partner network-wide change that caused our monetization to drop more than 30%. Lower monetization, in turn, led to a significant drop in spreads between revenue and traffic acquisition costs, which in turn caused a significant drop to our net revenue per day. By the end of June, we recovered about 50% of the daily net revenue, but the negative impact on Q2 was significant. We're working hard to fully stabilize the partner network business and get back to the levels we were at prior to the tuning event. At the same time, we have also remained intensely focused on diversifying our network partners, improving traffic quality, and expanding monetization diversity to reduce our Google concentration risk going forward. As we look to the second half of the year, our strategic priorities are clear. First, we will continue investing in the development and growth of our products portfolio, with particular emphasis on opportunities emerging around search, commerce, location, and AI-driven consumer experiences. Second, we remain focused on diversifying our partner network business and getting our daily gross profit back up to our prior levels. And finally, we will continue operating as efficiently as possible while concentrating trading investment behind our highest return growth opportunities and as our overall business starts growing again we intend to return to the M&A efforts that have proven very successful for us in the past without I handed over to treaty to go over our financials take it away treaty thanks Michael I'd like to remind everyone that in the first quarter of this year we made the decision to significantly reduce marketing activity related to search monetization across our owned and operated properties.
The result of this change was to impact both sequential and year-over-year trends during the quarter, which I will highlight throughout my remarks. Let's get into the details. Q2 revenue was $30.2 million, representing a 61% year-over-year decrease and a sequential decrease of 19%. Excluding the impact of owned and operated marketing, revenue would have been $28.6 million in Q1, down 32% year-over-year and 6% sequentially. Products revenue was $19.5 million, decreasing 19% year-over-year while increasing 3% sequentially. The sequential growth was primarily driven by a 5% increase in total sessions. Products revenue per session was down 2% from Q1, primarily related to the start page monetization challenges in q2 which michael mentioned in his remarks while the decline in monetization negatively impacted q2 results we remain encouraged by the continued strength of our products portfolio and growth potential products revenue accounted for 64 percent of total revenue marketing gap revenue was 10.7 million down 80 year-over-year and down 42 sequentially driven primarily by the wind down of owned and operated marketing activities Excluding owned and operated, marketing GAAP revenue was down 49% year-over-year and down 21% sequentially. This decline was primarily driven by reduced monetization and increased volatility in the Google RSOC market, specifically exacerbated by the June trends Michael highlighted earlier. In Q2 of 26, we had 59 active partners, which were defined as partners that generated at least $5,000 of GAAP revenue during the quarter. The number of active partners increased 5% sequentially, reflecting continued expansion across our partner base. This growth was partially offset by a 25% decline in revenue for active partner, primarily due to monetization volatility during the last month of the quarter. Despite this variability, the average active partner generated more than $155,000 in quarterly revenue. We ended the quarter with 28 scaled partners, which we defined as partners generating at least $50,000 of revenue during the quarter. Scaled partners represented 47% of our active partner base in Q2, underscoring the continued progression and maturation of our partner ecosystem. Adjusted gross profit was $25.5 million, down 38% year-over-year, and down 10% sequentially. Excluding the impact of owned and operated marketing, adjusted gross profit was $24.4 million, dollars, down 35% year-over-year, and down 9% sequentially. Product segment profit was $17.5 million, down 23% year-over-year, but up 1% sequentially. The product segment accounted for 65% of total profit. Marketing segment profit was $9.5 million, down 51% year-over-year, and down 24% sequentially. Turning to operating expenses and adjusted EBITDA, in Q2, operating expenses, net of addbacks, were $23.6 million, down 20% year-over-year, and down 8% sequentially. The declines from the prior periods reflect our ongoing cost-saving initiatives, as we remain focused on supporting our core business while making disciplined investments in growth. Adjusted EBITDA was $1.9 million in Q2, down 83% year-over-year, and down 29% sequentially. While we had previously expected adjusted EBITDA WF sequentially versus Q1, This is prior to the significant downturn in RSOC modernization we saw in June in our marketing business. We do expect EBITDA to sequentially increase quarter over quarter for the rest of the year. Lastly, I want to revisit the debt exchange we first announced in May and successfully closed on July 23rd. Under the new agreement, our total outstanding debt was reduced to $150 million from $302.6 million prior to our agreement to the exchange in May. Pro forma for the closing cash payment is part of the debt exchange. The company's cash balance at June 30th was $16.2 million. Pro forma for the new debt or consolidated net leverage at June 30th was 5.88 times. The new terms strengthen their capital structure, and with a stronger financial foundation in place, we are well positioned to execute on our strategic priorities and create long-term shareholder value. Given the continued volatility we are seeing, we are not providing Q3 or full-year guidance at this time. Our Q2 results reflect an intentional shift in our revenue mix towards the product segment, where we see significant growth opportunities. We are well positioned to capitalize on these opportunities and execute on our strategy. We are operating as a more focused and agile company with a clear focus on investing in our core businesses and emerging products. Our new debt agreement positions us to continue investing in and growing our assets, enabling us to execute on our strategic initiatives and deliver sustainable, long-term growth and value for our stakeholders. Thank you for joining us today.
Operator
We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please raise your hand now. If you have dialed in to today's call, please press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Thomas Forte with Maxim Group. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
All right. So Michael and Triti, congrats on the data structuring, and thanks for taking my questions. I have a couple of questions. I'll go one at a time. So Michael or Triti, on the start page, I think it's very interesting, the consumer interest in privacy, especially for search engines. Can you explain? You had some very impressive sequential growth in usage, but you talked about So is it netting out to growth, or are the monetization challenges offsetting the very impressive growth in usage?
Hey, Tom. Good to hear from you. Thanks for the question. I'll answer that second part, which is, unfortunately, it's the monetization challenges are more than offsetting the growth that we're seeing in user sessions. I think it's a lot. Yeah. But again, we're very pleased with the user growth that we're sending. The team's doing a great job of executing on, you know, continuing to take advantage of and capitalize on some of the tailwinds that we're seeing around a surge towards privacy in the search space.
Yeah, and I would say, and again, thanks for joining, Tom. I would say to follow up on that, we are hopeful and early stages of being encouraged that Google's, we basically, Startpage got caught up in some monetization challenges related to the entire Google partner network as Google's been looking to clean up the quality of their partner network. So we're hopeful that that's kind of getting to the tail end of that cleanup. And we're seeing a little bit of green shoots and monetization on Starpage. Nothing that I want to definitively report yet. But in going back to the earlier part of your question, what's been really interesting about Starpage, which we believe is a quite valuable asset, is that we're getting the tailwinds of all this interest in privacy. We've also seen during the quarter that, and you might have seen this as well, a bit of a backlash to a lot of the AI integration that Google has been doing and a lot of consumers turning to more independent search engines. And because we have both privacy on Startpage and we've taken a bit of a stance against heavily integrating AI into Startpage, we're seeing users come over. So all we need now is for Google monetization to improve and also diversify beyond Google to other other search providers.
Excellent. And for my second and last question, Michael and Trudy, I'd appreciate your thoughts, including high level on agentic commerce. So when you listen to the mega cap text, they, you know, they talk about it very favorably, but at the same time, Amazon just pivoted to Alexa for shopping from Rufus. So it's not clear to me, I guess, where things stand with the Gentic Commerce, but I'd appreciate your thoughts, including what you're doing at the company specific level to exploit the opportunity.
Sure, I'll take this treaty. So, again, I think you're right, Tom, pretty early stages on Agenda Commerce. What we have seen is that traffic coming out of AI apps, you know, ChadGBT, but other apps as well, is quite motivated and quite inclined to purchase. So we believe that as people are starting their shopping excursions and finding more information, that you're going to see increasing amounts of e-commerce emanating. uh, via AI. So where we're playing in that, uh, would really be related primarily right now to our coupon follow product. And, and we're, we're somewhat early stages in, in starting to exploit that. But on coupon follow, we've got a couple of really interesting assets, uh, that really allow coupon follow to, to be the, you know, the second leading couponing site on the internet. And the two assets are, first of all, we've got a large library of current and up-to-date and verified promo codes. So what that means is when you go and actually use a coupon follow promo code, it's got a high likelihood of working when you go enter it into a site. The second thing we have is, which contributes to a lot of our monetization on coupon follow, we've got really strong affiliate relationships with a lot of e-commerce stores because people go to Coupon Follow, they click off of Coupon Follow and end up purchasing at a shopping site. We're pretty confident that as all of the number of shopping and commerce-related AI apps are proliferating and people are using more and more of those, pretty much every one of those apps, the most likely ways to make money are, first of all, you're going going to want promo codes and verify promo codes and you want them to work when the consumers click out of your app to go buy. And secondly, you're going to want a way to monetize purchases through affiliate relationships. So we have both of those assets in place. We're currently figuring out the best way to offer both of those up to the kind of agentic marketplace.
Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Trudy.
Thanks, Tom. Appreciate it.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Dan Kurnos with StoneX. A kind reminder to press star six to unmute. Mr. Kurnos, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Hi. Good afternoon, guys. Sorry to dial in. I'm trying to listen to a few of these at once. So three questions for you. One, Michael, on the product side, appreciate all the color. can you you know I know you guys aren't giving guidance but the sequential improvement is encouraging I understand that the ad market especially start page is sloppy right now you've been fighting with Google and Google changes for how many decades Michael but just in terms of what you're seeing underlying you know I just are have we kind of troughed here should we start to see some sequential improvement in the forward quarters or is the start page headwind too much and then I got a couple more.
So I would put Starpage in the context of the overall Google market, the overall Google partner network. Dan, and by the way, thank you for joining. Good to speak with you. We cannot peer exactly inside the Google black box to give you anything definitive, but what it feels like to us, and we've been a player in this for a very long time, and you're right, the last couple of years have felt like a couple of decades as Google has been working to kind of get the partner network under control it feels to us like they are starting to make some moves that are resulting in a little bit less volatility so we are hopeful that we are troughed here and and i'm going to start being back on the upswing on start page and you know I would say recently we have seen some green shoots, so that's going to be coming back. We don't want to promise anything just yet until we've got a couple more months of data to show it. Those changes also, as they're getting things under control, would directly affect our partner network business, which really just needs stability from Google. We don't need much in the way of improvements in monetization. What we need are less dramatic moves up or down by Google. And so as we're seeing kind of, you know, what feels like a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel on the Google side, we would expect if what we're seeing is correct, that would help both Starpage and our partner network.
Got it. That's helpful. So let me ask a follow-up to that then. This does not count as my three questions. This is a 1A, Michael. It was actually nice to see 5% sequential improvement in active partners. And I think Treaty said in his comments that you guys are seeing a 25% decline in revenue per active partner. I understand you just laid out probably why, but you have been talking about active partner and partner network diversification. So can you maybe parse out how much you think is Google now and how much is maybe like newer partners coming on and it takes a while for them to scale? And so at some point, you should start to see more scaled spend as you continue to diversify or re-diversify that active partner network.
Yeah, so some of that was deliberate on our part. We wanted to have more diversification with more partners. and some of the larger partners were also some of the ones that may not have been as high as quality. But as we've been bringing on more partners and going out together, one thing that's happening, Dan, in the marketplace is we, if you looked at this industry a year ago, we had a multitude of large competitors in the partner network business. Now, as Google's been making its changes and cleaning up the network, what we're seeing is that we are one of the very few kind of higher quality scaled partners left, scaled Google partners left. And so we're getting the benefit of both our systems being good, but also, you know, there's a more there's a more consolidated number of people working with Google at scale. And so a lot of those traffic acquisition partners out there are coming to us to try to work with our back end. So I guess the way to put a combination of the market, us being much bigger in the market, one of the fewer large players having a good platform to provide monetization and some deliberate moves on our part as well.
So in theory, if things stabilize, you guys are in a better position to capitalize if you can get a little more visibility on the monetization piece.
Yeah, that's right, Dan. I mean, look, I know you're also a follower of IAC. You know, IAC, you know, has been one of traditionally been one of our largest competitors in this space. And, you know, kind of as you know, they shut down their business. So that would be an example of, you know, if you were an IAC partner and looking around for for some where to continue your business system, one would definitely be a place you'd want to come to.
All right, Michael, I guess you can lead the witness because I was going to ask a related question, but I was going to ask that last. I guess I'll ask it now and just say, you know, we have written publicly multiple times about the slew of trials going on in the space. And similar to IAC, you are at the crux of it. You actually have three or maybe even four bites at the Apple here. And it's not just the AdTech trial. You also have AdSense for domains. You've got AdWords potentially. I mean, there's a whole slew of things in there. So I don't know what you want to say or don't want to say on this call, but it seems like, you know, everyone's kind of expecting settlements to start sometime in 27. I don't know if the arbitration, we saw a couple arbitration cases in the AdWords stuff, you know, small ones, nothing meaningful yet. So I'm just going to leave it open-ended and see if or what you want to say on that front, because you guys have a lot of exposure there, potentially for the good.
Yeah, no. Yeah, thanks, Dan. I appreciate you asking the question. I'm trying to decide with Trudy how much you want to really talk about on this call. But I know you have been one of the few people kind of writing about this publicly. So I guess the summary for people listening is we're quite aware that Google has been adjudicated in the U.S. for some antitrust violations related to the search marketplace. And as you alluded to, there's a pretty large number of companies who are filing arbitration claims against Google at this point related to Google having a monopoly in the search market. I think that at this point, it feels as though the market believes that those claims are going to have some value. We're aware that to the extent that some of the claims are even, I believe, trading hands in the secondary market. So, you know, hedge funds are buying them up and that kind of thing. And you're right. System one has been we've been traditionally over the last, you know, 13, 14 years, very large players in the search market with Google. um and so we're players on the buy side we're large players on the search syndication side which is the other place they were adjudicated monopoly so um i guess what i would say is we are looking certainly looking at our claims uh that that we might have and you know we would deter we're working to determine the best way to move forward on those anything you want to add treaty no i think that's it i think i think to to michael's point you know our our financials historically are out there um and it's um it it's not that hard to figure out you know kind of how
much work we've done with google um on both the buy side and the sell side um and we're um we're actively engaged in charting the best path forward i'll i'll give you guys don't have to say it but i'll give people a hint that that number starts with a b and it's not one in terms of dealings with Google because we've done the math.
So I'll throw that out there, but I'll let people figure it out or read our note. And then just, Michael, last one for me is, can you just give me a sense of some of the 1P monetization work that you're doing, the 1P data stuff? Obviously, in an agentic world, 1P data is coveted. You guys clearly have a lot of it through product side. You have a lot of intent-driven stuff, a lot of signals. So I know it's super early. You talked about your prepared remarks, but just anything you want to give us in terms of higher thinking about monetizing it and how big you think it could be as you scale it. Thanks.
Yeah, I know that's a great question, Dan. So when we're talking about kind of first-party data, which is the most valuable first-party data when advertisers are trying to advertise is data that kind of tells you what sorry data that people tell you what they're interested in and data that tells you where people are going those kind of things and when you look at system one we've got we don't really have you know data related to reading news for instance so um you know if you've got like that i think we're hearing a little feedback from you dan yeah um but if you've got like a big news site for instance that kind of data is not that important for advertisers but what we have is we've got MapQuest which is a geolocation service that tells you where people are going we've got coupon follow which tells us people go to coupon follow when they're literally at point of purchase to buy something and then we've got all of our partner network business which is people are only reaching our sites when they've already clicked on an ad, and so they might be interested in something like a Ford automobile. They've clicked on a Ford ad, and they're coming to an article on our website about Ford autos. So that kind of data should be exactly the kind of data that advertisers want. So the last, you know, four to six months, we basically have put together a technical platform to aggregate all of that data, slice it up into really any form that advertisers would want. And we recently have started kind of hitting the market, starting to talk with, you know, large brands, large advertising holding companies, and basically get them on board to start buying it. So there's nothing material to discuss right now, because it's still early stages, but we do have people at this point starting to buy, purchase our data, use it in their advertising. And we're starting to see, get good feedback on that. So when you add up all of our traffic, we have one of the largest data sources of first party data out there right now. And so it's only upside for us. We're making almost no money from that. We think that it's got good potential upside and hopefully next quarter we'll have some more material results to share with you don't worry michael everyone gets their news from tick tock now anyway so it's not relevant um yeah but yeah thank you dan for all i think dan and tom uh for all the good questions do we do we have any anybody else on the line there are no further questions guys appreciate the color appreciate them yep i know if i know further all right well thank you thank Thank you, everybody, for joining on our earnings call. Again, we want to thank our lenders for working out a structure with us that's going to allow System 1 to thrive in the future. We look forward to speaking with all of you again next quarter and reporting on the good progress we've been making this quarter. Thanks again for joining.
Operator
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