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Good morning my name is Emily and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to Avantour's second quarter 2025 earnings results conference call. After the presentation you'll have the opportunity to ask any questions which you can do so by pressing start followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. I will now turn the call over to Alison Hosack, Senior Vice President of Global Communications. Ms Hosack you may begin the conference.
Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Our speakers today are Michael Stubblefield, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Brent Jones, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. The press release, as well as a presentation and supplemental disclosure package accompanying this call, are available on our Investor Relations website at ir.avantoursciences.com. A replay of this webcast will also be made available on our website after the call. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. federal securities laws, including statements regarding events or developments that we believe or anticipate may occur in the future. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those set forth in our SEC filings. Actual results might differ materially from any forward-looking statements that we make today. These forward- looking statements speak only as of the date that they are made. We do not assume any obligation to update these forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events, or other developments. This call will include a discussion of non-GAAP measures. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures can be found in the press release and in the supplemental disclosure package on our Investor Relations website. With that, I will now turn the call over to Michael.
Thank you, Allie, and good morning, everyone. I appreciate you joining us today. Before we discuss our second quarter results, I want to briefly address the leadership transition we announced last week. As many of you saw, Emmanuel Ligner has been appointed Avantour's next CEO effective August 18th. Emmanuel brings over 30 years of deep experience in the life sciences industry and is eager to hit the ground running. While I will continue to serve as CEO until his official start date, today marks my final earnings call with Avantour. It has been an honor to lead this organization for the past 11 years and I want to sincerely thank all of you on the call today for your partnership and support. Let's now move on to our second quarter results, beginning on slide three. Despite ongoing challenges in the operating environment, we remain laser focused on executing the strategic initiatives we outlined last quarter, driving growth, improving operating efficiency, strengthening execution, and delivering long-term value. For the quarter, organic revenue growth improved sequentially by 200 basis points and was flat year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margin contracted to 16.6%. Adjusted EPS for the quarter was 24 cents and free cash flow was 125 million with adjusted conversion at 100%. We remain on track with our cost transformation program and continue to expect $400 million in run rate savings by the end of 2027. In laboratory solutions, which makes up roughly two-thirds of our business organic revenue growth was in line with expectations increasing sequentially compared to q1 and finishing modestly down year over year as previously shared corey walker joined us in late march as president of the segment his early focus has been a comprehensive review of the business assessing strategy execution and opportunities to grow and retain key accounts while aggressively pursuing new ones in partnership with the commercial team. I'd like to highlight a few of the findings and action plans from Corey's early efforts. Corey has spent significant time with customers and heard consistently about the power of our channel. Customers recognize our unique scope, reach, and engagement. And, most importantly, they value the solutions we deliver and enjoy doing business with us. At the same time, these conversations revealed opportunities for improvement and ways we can strengthen our offerings for our customers. Corey and team are fully focused on executing an action plan to implement these initiatives while continuing their comprehensive review. For example, service levels are an essential part of our value proposition. We've driven substantial improvements in recent quarters and the team is executing an aggressive plan to further differentiate our delivery performance going forward. Corey's deep dive into the business also validated the investments we are making to enhance our digital platform. As we discussed last quarter, we are focused on empowering self-service, simplifying ordering, and providing greater visibility into order status and fulfillment, enhancing every step of the customer journey. One of the tools being rolled out is Avantor Navigator, our first AI application developed completely in-house, which helps customers discover products and services matched to their research needs another is a digital buying experience platform designed to unify customer intelligence and provide a seamless personalized experience across web and mobile channels we also made significant progress with pricing optimization including the development of a new pricing tool that increases agility speed and competitiveness at its core it ensures our customers see market relevant list prices when they engage with us through our digital sales channel which not only makes their buying experience more efficient but also reduces abandonment rates and significantly increases conversion these efforts are already driving results in a competitive market we were awarded contract extensions with several top 15 global pharma accounts in the quarter these awards will result in more than 100 million dollars in share gains which we expect to realize once fully commercialized we also executed a five-year extension of our contract with bio business solutions the largest cost savings purchasing program for the life sciences industry over 10 000 companies have access to purchase of entourage laboratory and production products and services through this agreement collectively bio is our largest customer and this extension ensures we are uniquely positioned to benefit when funding levels return to historical norms across the biotech industry. These are significant wins, particularly as competitive intensity remains high across our industry. Our priority in this environment is to protect and grow share while preserving absolute profitability as volumes recover and the benefits of our delivery, digital, and pricing initiatives take hold. As a result, our full-year outlook contemplates pressured margin rate assumptions through the balance of the year. However, However, we remain confident in our ability to expand margins over time. Turning to bioscience production, where our bioprocessing performance fell short of our expectations this quarter. While demand for our core monoclonal antibody platform remained strong, results were negatively affected by two discrete headwinds. First, quarterly throughput was impacted by planned maintenance efforts at one of our manufacturing facilities that extended longer than planned and led to an increase in backorders. Second, and more significantly, a few of our large customers faced major, unexpected headwinds during the quarter, which slowed the rate of recovery in controlled environment consumables and impacted demand in other elements of our offering. Specifically, a leading gene therapy platform encountered regulatory and patient safety setbacks, a key mRNA platform scaled back their outlook, and one of our longstanding MAPS customers had a negative phase three readout and other commercial challenges. We expect these headwinds to persist through the balance of the year. Brent will discuss the impact to our guidance. Benoit Gordier and the bioprocessing team are taking decisive action to offset these headwinds and strengthen our market-leading platform, and Emmanuel's expertise will be additive here when he joins the company later this month. The team's efforts are centered on three priorities. Optimizing our supply chain to enhance delivery performance and improve operational efficiency across our manufacturing and planning functions increasing field intensity through new sales leadership and sharper execution discipline and expanding our product offering through ongoing innovation and customer focused development outside of bioprocessing the other key components of the bioscience production segment performed in line with expectations we delivered particularly strong performance in our new sil branded silicones platform which grew low double digits year-to-date growth of the medical platform is running well ahead of patient procedure counts so we expect demand in our new cell platform to moderate in the second half of the year with that i'll now turn it over to brent to discuss the second quarter results in more detail and to walk through our outlook for the second half and full year.
Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. I'm starting with the numbers on slide four. Second quarter reported revenue was $1.68 billion, which was flat year-over-year on an organic basis. Adjusted gross profit for the quarter was $554 million, representing a 32.9% adjusted gross margin. This is a decline of 130 basis points year over year, driven primarily by price actions in lab to protect and grow market share, unfavorable product mix, and increased supply chain expense in the form of higher than expected freight expense and fixed cost under absorption. As expected, we were able to fully offset the dollar impact of tariffs on cost of goods sold through targeted pricing actions and sourcing agility. We had another quarter of solid cost control, with adjusted SG&A expense better than planned and prior year, and we continue to identify meaningful additional cost opportunities to help offset the margin pressure we are facing. Adjusted EBITDA was $280 million in the quarter, representing a 16.6% margin. Our shortfall in adjusted EBITDA margin was driven by the headwinds to gross profit and margin and only modestly offset by SG&A savings. Our multi-year cost transformation initiative continues ahead of plan and we remain on track to deliver in excess of our commitments for 2025 and the entire $400 million program. Adjusted operating income was $252 million at a 15% margin. Interest and tax expenses were in line with our expectations. As a result, adjusted earnings per share were $0.24 for the quarter, a $0.01 year-over-year decline. Our adjusted EPS performance in the quarter reflects the flow-through of our adjusted EBITDA results, as well as continued reductions in net interest expense. Our cash generation was strong, with $125 million in free cash flow in the quarter. When adjusted for cash costs related to the transformation initiative, our free cash flow conversion was 100% of adjusted net income for the quarter. Our adjusted net leverage ended the quarter at 3.2 times adjusted EBITDA unchanged from Q1 as cash generation was largely offset by FX impacts on our euro-denominated debt. De-leveraging remains our top capital allocation priority, and we continue to target adjusted net leverage sustainably below three times. Let's now take a closer look at each of our segments on slide five. Lab Solutions revenue was in line with our expectations at $1.122 billion. On an organic basis, we declined 1% versus prior year, but grew 2% on a sequential basis. As Michael noted, we continue to navigate increased competitive intensity as a result of funding and policy-related headwinds many of our customers are facing. In this environment, we are focused on not just retaining, but growing share. A particular bright spot was our self-manufactured lab chemicals, which continued its track record of growth. On a regional basis, our European business was nearly flat, outperforming the Americas in Asia, which felt the greater brunt of policy headwinds. Adjusted operating income for lab solutions was $133 million for the quarter with an 11.9% margin. Although we were able to implement pricing and sourcing actions to offset tariff cost headwinds, the competitive actions to drive share have come at the cost of margin. MIX was also a negative contributor to margin. Bioscience production revenue was $561 million in Q2, up 2% organically on a year-over-year basis and up 7% sequentially. Silicones had another strong quarter, up low double digits, and our applied solutions business was down low single digits, both in line with expectations. The key disappointment in the quarter was bioprocessing, which as a reminder comprises roughly two-thirds of our revenues in bioscience production. Although bioprocessing grew five percent sequentially, it was flat year-over-year, with declines across the business driven by the customer headwinds and the longer-than-expected maintenance at our manufacturing facility. Within bioprocessing, CEC was down mid-single digits year-over-year, but grew sequentially, benefiting from commercial actions taken by the team. Single-use also grew sequentially, but was flat year-over-year after increasing high teens in the first quarter. Lastly, process ingredients and excipients grew high single-digit sequentially and low single-digits year-over-year. While we have limited control over the customer headwinds, the team is actioning on the initiatives Michael outlined to improve execution and performance. Adjusted operating income for bioscience production was $140 million for the quarter, representing a 24.9% margin. While this represents a 100 basis point sequential improvement, margin was down year over year, largely due to under absorption and manufacturing related expense. Given our first half performance and current visibility to the business, we are reducing our full year organic revenue growth expectation to negative 2% to flat versus prior guidance of negative one percent to plus one percent year to date our organic growth is negative one percent so this updated midpoint reflects a continuation of current trends to bridge to actuals there is a two percent headwind due to the clinical services divestiture and approximately one percent tailwind due to fx resulting in reported revenue growth at the midpoint of negative two percent this assumes a euro dollar rate of 1.15 for the back half of the year and a 1.12 blended rate for the entire year on a segment basis we now expect lab solutions growth to be minus low single digits down from minus low single digits to flat this assumes a continuation of first half performance in the back half of the year conversion associated with the recent share gains described earlier will be a tailwind to our outlook as they are implemented consistent with our q2 performance we are assuming no material top line impact from terrace we now expect bioscience production to be flat down from up mid single digits driven by our performance in the first half and headwinds in both bioprocessing and in our medical grade silicones platform we expect bioprocessing to be flat to up low single digits down from up mid single digits this reflects our expectation that despite continued strong underlying demand for our core monoclonal antibody platform we will continue to face the headwinds we described earlier single use is expected to increase mid single digits for the second half and the year and we expect processing gradients to be up low single digits for the second half and the year. In CEC, we expect performance to continue to improve modestly on a sequential basis as we move through the second half of the year, translating to a low single digit decline for the year. After mid-teens growth in the first half of the year, our medical grade silicones platform will take a step back in the second half of the year as customers rebalance inventory to bring full-year growth in line with patient procedure count. Accordingly, we expect mid-single-digit decline in the second half, resulting in modest growth for the full year. We are updating our adjusted EBITDA margin expectations to between 16.5% and 17%, and our adjusted EPS guidance range to between $0.94 and $0.98. cents we are also reducing our free cash flow expectations to 550 million to 600 million before transformation expenses the reduction in free cash flow is a result of the significant contract extensions in the lab business that michael discussed earlier while we are excited about these awards some come with meaningful prepaid rebates which are accounted for in our updated guidance. In terms of Q3, we expect organic revenue growth of minus 4% to minus 2% with both segments down similarly. Our clinical services divestiture represents a 3% headwind and based on current spot rates, we expect a 2% tailwind from FX. This leads to reported revenue growth of negative 4% year over year at the midpoint. We expect adjusted EBITDA margins to to be somewhat lower than Q2 in the low 16% range.
With that, I will turn the call back to Michael.
Thank you, Brent. Before we move into Q&A, I would like to briefly recap today's key takeaways and reiterate our priorities moving forward. In a challenging operating environment, we are successfully executing the strategic initiatives we outlined last quarter. In our lab solutions segment, we are pleased to deliver sequential revenue growth and we are committed to protecting key accounts and competing hard to win market share. These efforts resulted in several significant contract extensions in the quarter. Our bioprocessing performance fell short of our expectations this quarter, primarily due to discrete customer headwinds. We are taking action to offset the impact and demand for our core monoclonal antibody platform remains strong. As I reflect on 11 years leading this business, I am incredibly proud of all that we have achieved including the acquisition of VWR, a successful IPO, navigating the COVID-19 pandemic and its aftermath, and the implementation of a new operating model. Despite recent performance headwinds, I could not be more confident in the strength of our platform and a vaunt towards future success under Emanuel's leadership. You'll hear more from Emanuel at the Q3 earnings call, where I expect he will share some of his early observations and priorities for the business. With that, I'll now turn the call over to the operator to begin the Q&A session.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question today, please do so now by pressing start followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind or you feel like your question has already been answered, you can press start followed by 2 to withdraw yourself from the queue. Our first question today comes from the line of Vijay Kumar with Evercore. Please go ahead.
Hey guys, thanks for taking my question, Michael. Wishing you the best as you transition here. Maybe on the guidance here, your third quarter, you know, organic of minus 3%. What is it assuming for the segments? And, you know, pretty clearly, you know, bioprocessing, it feels like it should step down, both bioprocessing and lab. It worsens from second quarter trends. Maybe talk about what changed versus 2Q.
Yeah, thanks for the question. It's Brent here. So we see about routable performance in each segment along with the full company there. The dynamic there is really consistency in lab, by and large, with what we've seen in Q2 in the first half of the year. There is some seasonality with the vacation times and then Q2. And then in bioprocess and in bioscience, we still have the recovery on the headwinds due to the manufacturing and that. And there is some timing slowness in silicones there. So that's really how you tie that math together.
I'll let others jump on the segments, but maybe on margins here, Brent. EBITDA margins came down 125 basis points. How much of this was a mix sort of volume impact versus, you know, some of the pricing commentary you made on initiatives to gain share within lab?
Yeah, so the dynamic in the core was really a combination of price and mix, price being the most significant piece of that, and largely in the lab business there. When you somewhat underperform in bioprocessing, that's also diluted to margin as well. But it's largely a price and then mixed dynamic.
Are these expected to continue in a fiscal 26? Should pricing actions analyze any thoughts on margin cadence here, how we should think about for fiscal 26?
Yeah, I think, you know, that's probably a bid in the future there. what i you know going to some michael's comments on the intensity winning the contracts incremental revenue that that comes from that once we get on those contracts we always show or or extend them in these instances we show the ability to create margin as well as we absorb better with volume there so probably wouldn't get ahead of ourselves on on 26 here but certainly we're going to see impacts through the balance of the year all right thank you guys thank you our next question comes from Michael Riskin with Bank of America.
Please go ahead, Michael.
Great. Thanks. I want to dig into bioprocess first. You've had a couple of really sort of idiosyncratic challenges this year, the controlled room consumables, the site shutdown running long, some of the customer-specific engine and cell therapy, but certainly much more disappointing bioprocess number for the year than what we'd previously talked about and what we're seeing else around the market. I just want to get your thoughts on that business longer term. Do you still feel like Bioprocess is a high single digit long term grower? Just sort of a number of one off issues that keep propping up that kind of point to maybe some underlying problems. I just want to gauge your confidence that these are one time and that once you resolve these, the business is as strong as we previously thought it was.
Good morning, Michael. This is Michael. A couple thoughts on that. Firstly, when you look into the second quarter, absent a couple of these discrete headwinds, the business really did want to perform in that mid to high single digit range in line with the rest of the market and would underscore that the demand for our MAPS platform, which is the biggest part of our bioprocessing business, remains incredibly strong and certainly in line with what we see in a recovering end market. No doubt fell short of expectations in the quarter, you know, with this facility maintenance, this is something you do periodically every few years, you know, as we got into the turnaround, went a bit longer than we had anticipated. You know, the plant came back online before we ended the quarter and, you know, the team's working hard to restore normal backlog levels. These, you know, customer headwinds that we encountered in the quarter were certainly unexpected and developed as we got into the quarter for very specific, discrete, customer-related headwinds, particularly in these emerging modalities, which I don't know that it's all that surprising that the industry itself is going through the normal growing pains of launching new technologies, the FDA processes and some of the concerns around patient safety that are top of mind certainly have to be a consideration there. And, you know, as demand fell off for some of our key customers in that space, it impacted the quarter. Unfortunately, it was contained to just two or three customers overall. And when we look at the broader platform that we run there, you know, the platform is incredibly well positioned. We've got a great pipeline, longstanding customer relationships. And, you know, I would expect, particularly as Emmanuel comes in with his background in this space, you know, this business will, you know, as we work through some of these headwinds, you know, will continue to grow at or above market over the long term.
And then I want to follow up on an earlier point in terms of the guide for the second half. Brent, you called it out. It looks like you're assuming pretty much very consistent numbers, 1H versus 2H, both on organic and on margins. But the 3Q to 4Q split really surprised us. You know, down two to down four organic in 3Q implies plus one or better in the fourth quarter. So just both on a percentage basis and on a dollar basis, really big step up. Can you talk about, you know, extent of conservatism in 3Q? Is there anything you're seeing a month into the quarter or just any incremental things? Just keep in mind in 4Q, that'll give us confidence in that ramp.
Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah, no, no, absolutely fair observation, Michael. It, you know, the, I would say we're being careful on Q3 there. I mean, we are assuming a continuation of the trends in lab. There is some timing in silicones, which if you were to relatively smooth that out, that would make that step up look less as much there. And, you know, frankly, just the timing of what we know on the seasonality in the order books and the expectations. you know, if we, you know, we meet or beat in Q3, that'll certainly make the ramp on Q4 much lower there.
Great. Thank you. Yep.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Dan Brennan with TD Cohen. Please go ahead, Dan.
Great. Thank you. Thanks for the questions. And Michael, obviously all the best to you. Maybe just on the pricing environment, which, you know, you guys called out competitive intensity throughout the prepared remarks. And, you know, obviously you're taking down the free cash flow guide as you lock in some of these contracts. I'm just wondering, could you, could you give us a sense of a, just how much worse this is right now? Um, B any color kind of within your lab business, kind of what volume and price looks at and C is this kind of a new directive? I mean, we understand you guys are, you know, trying to be competitive and you've called out some pricing headlines in the past, but it just seems like things have accelerated here. I'm just trying to get our arms around kind of, you know, kind of what changed.
Yeah, thanks, Dan. I think it's important to acknowledge it is a dynamic environment and in the choppiness of the macro environment, you know, we have seen a step up in competitive intensity, particularly in our lab business, not necessarily, you know, broad-based across all customer segments. We probably see it most pronounced with our larger, biopharma accounts. And, you know, we've seen that, you know, kind of intensifying as we've moved through the year. And we'll just underscore, you know, our strategy here is, you know, to protect and grow our share. We have a differentiated platform. You know, the work that Corey and his team have done as he's leaned in here certainly have validated, you know, the strengths of the platform and, you know, how much our customers, you know, want to do business with us. And so, you know, we're being reactive to the environment and ensuring that, you know, we've got a strong, you know, platform and basis to grow from as these end markets, you know, recover and, you know, as the actions that Corey and his team are taking, you know, begin to take hold. We had, you know, a terrific quarter, really a terrific quarter with a number of really meaningful account awards where, you know, we were able to not only, you know, protect our share, but also grab, you know, substantial market share. As we discussed, more than $100 million of incremental revenues will flow into this business in the coming quarters on the back of those efforts. That'll do a lot of good things for absorption, and we've got a long track record of expanding margins. And of course, you can't do that if you don't have the account to begin with. But we think we're as well positioned as anybody out there to compete aggressively for this business, and you see that playing through in the quarter.
And is there any color just on volume price or just in the lab business? I mean, is that something you guys can break out? And then just as a follow-up too, beyond that, just wondering, you guys typically give in market color. You know, there's a lot of focus on what the academic environment is like in the U.S. and also pharma. So, would you be willing to share kind of how trends perform versus expectations there? Thank you.
Let me take the last part of that question and Brent can give you some color on price volume, Dan. From an end market perspective, I would say, you know, as we've move through the year, we see the in-market conditions largely stable as we sit here today, you know, particularly in like academia and government following the big step down in February. You know, we've seen, you know, that in-market perform, you know, relatively, you know, stable. The funding headwinds for biotech persist and, you know, our large, you know, pharma customers, you know, continue to be pressured by inflation and other policy-related headwinds. So we haven't really seen what I would say a pronounced change here in the quarter. And when we look at the second half, we're assuming that those conditions persist. One maybe additional commentary on our performance relative to those end market trends. If you look into our supplemental disclosure, you'll see a particularly strong quarter for us in academia and government. And, you know, consistent with the action plan that we outlined for Corey and his team, you know, I think that's a great data point on, you know, the benefits, the early benefits that we're seeing of, you know, a step up in commercial intensity, as well as just the relevance of our platform. You know, we grew that business mid-single digit in an end market that, you know, probably was down, you know, mid to high single digits. So you're starting to see, some of these benefits that Corey and his team are driving. And for me, it just underscores the strength of our platform.
Yeah, following up on the price volume comment there, so maybe rewind to where we entered the year. Just frankly, think of the enterprise and lab in particular for flattish volumes and then a modest amount of price. Fast forward to here, certainly due to the end market challenges, there has been some pressure on volume, but that is not most of the story it's primarily it's primarily on the price side there so when you look at our attainment you know a little bit of pressure on volume and then the price head one is the main drop through and and that that goes directly to the margin story thank you our next question comes from rachel vattenstahl with jp morgan please go ahead rachel thanks good morning um so first up i just wanted to ask on the lab solutions comments so you noted that those were in line
with expectations but you chose to take down guidance for the full year for lab solutions by a few points so can you walk us through what drove the decision to take down the guide there if it truly did play out as expected is this just a function of conservatism is it underpinned by trends that you've seen throughout july so far or are you assuming that the competitive intensity steps up even further in the back half for lab solutions no good uh good note of the detail there, Rachel.
And look, when we look at the lab performance, you know, minus low single digits for the first half of the year, somewhat better performance in Q2, we just don't see the environment changing. So the prior guide was minus LSC to flat. So just, I don't know, like conservatism, I would probably just call it prudence or very realistic outlook on that. We don't see the environment changing materially there. So we just extended that for the year and, you know, two other comments on bridging, it makes the math make the most sense.
Great. Then maybe shifting over to bioprocessing. So you called out the plan maintenance, took a little bit longer than expected and created this backorder dynamic with some customers. So can you quantify for us how much of a headwind those backorders were within the quarter? And then is the plant fully back up and running at this point? And if that issue is resolved, when should we expect to see a till in from those back orders coming back into the model?
Yeah, Rachel, when I think of the bioprocessing underperform in Q2, one to two points of growth were related to the increase in the back order and the timing of the maintenance completion. The balance was related to the customer headwinds that Michael cited there. So that essentially walks you from the mid-single-digit guide to the flat where we ended up there. you know the operational recovery you know the plant is absolutely back where it needs to be that operational recovery and driving down that backlog does take time so we expect that'll feather in through the rest of the year so I would not you notice per Michael's questions you know we're we're being careful about timing of that for Q3 and I would we're just feathering that in through the second half of the year.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Luke Sergot with Barclays. Please go ahead, Luke.
All right, thanks for the questions. I was just hoping you could size the different headwinds and not go into the specific customer exposure, but really just kind of you know from the headwinds you saw on 2Q and then from what's baked in the guide cut for biosciences, really just trying to figure out what was in your control. So if you could help size what But, you know, those related due to the extended site maintenance costs or versus the, you know, the issues you have with the customers?
Luke, we started a couple of discrete headwinds for the quarter. You know, Brent just sized for you the impact of the extended, you know, maintenance outage. Think about that as one to two points in the quarter, which leaves kind of two to three points for um you know the the two to three customers that um you know encountered significant challenges we progressed through the the quarter uh you know the plant's fully online and we don't expect that maintenance headwind um you know to impact the the second half so when we look into the outlook for the the you know the last couple of quarters here what you're really seeing reflected here is a full quarters impact of these you know discrete customer headwinds both in q3 and q4 as our current assumption is that, you know, those headwinds don't unwind as we move through the year. And, you know, we don't necessarily comment on specific customer detail there, but, you know, of the two or three accounts, you know, they all kind of contributed, you know, roughly equal to the headwind there. The other dynamic impacting the BPS outlook for the second half was, you know, our our new sale platform um we've off to an incredibly you know strong start particularly in our medical implant part of that business growing mid-teens you know year to date which is well ahead of uh procedure count and so not a not unusual for for that business you see that the customer is normalizing inventories you know to bring you know full-year purchases you know more in line with uh you know in this case patient procedure count and so that creates a little bit a headwind for us in the second half of the year but that end market is incredibly strong and uh
you know our our value proposition there remains you know fully intact we're going to have a great year overall and the setup into 26 will um you'll be very favorable great sorry sorry for the the doubling up on that question i missed it was asked earlier um and i guess just sort of a follow-up here you know thinking about the business overall um how integrated are the two um segments when you think about like you know you're i understand from a channel perspective you get a lot of third party but you also have a lot of proprietary and white label stuff that goes in there so um you know how integrated are the two manufacturing uh facilities or or the the manufacturing between
the two segments and um yeah i'll just leave it with that yeah thanks look you know we when we put these uh platforms together uh you know more than you know seven eight years ago now you know there were a pretty significant number of synergies that were implemented and recognized at that time, obviously full integration of the back offices and particularly the IT infrastructure and such. The manufacturing facilities, particularly for our proprietary content, are fully integrated. One of the important value elements of our offering, particularly in a GMP environment is being able to supply research grade quantities of products, you know, coming from a GMP line. And then as those programs scale up to commercial scale, the customer isn't having to requalify a new production line. It's all produced on the same line. So there's quite some nice synergies there. And then we have an integrated account, you know, structure and, you know, both segments, you know, leverage the common channel here. So, yeah, there's certainly some synergies that are important to the business. But as we think about running the businesses, as you can see, both segment leaders are squarely focused on accelerating the growth of each segment independently.
Great.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Tycho Peterson with Jefferies. Please go ahead, Tycho.
Hey, thanks. Thanks. You know, I appreciate you've had a number of questions on kind of the lab dynamics and pricing, but can you help us bridge the free cash flow cut? You know, how is that tied to the $100 million, you know, of wins on the lab side? You know, are there mechanics around the rebates here? Should we be worried about channel stuffing, you know, effectively giving away some inventory here? And then, you know, what really is the path to margins bottoming in lab? I think that's a key question people are trying to get a handle on. You know, obviously there's some new initiatives by Corey, but then you've got these new pricing headwinds. And I also didn't hear you kind of quantify anything around pricing. So any color there would be helpful too.
Yeah, Tycho, let me start and then Michael will add some other color on that. So the significant piece of the pre-cashual range was related to that pre-bate dynamic. There is a piece of it that's the lower EBITDA dynamic. Now we're working all the harder on working capital to try and mitigate pieces of that, but that's how I would click that together. I don't exactly follow your channel stuffing notion there, but- Well, you talked about 100 million benefits from new wins.
You're talking about the 100 million benefits from new wins. Are you giving away inventory up front, I guess is the question.
Oh, absolutely not.
Yeah, what I would say about that, Tyco, is those are share gains. That's incremental business that'll transfer from our competitors to us on top of the business that we you know have been able to to retain um the contracts that go around that you know will incorporate you know significant upfront you know rebate payments and i think that's all brent's reflecting there in the in the outlook is just the the timing of those that'll get paid here in the second half of those contracts are are implemented you need to be taken into account but the demand uh dynamics associated with there's there's nothing unusual associated with that psycho and then just a question on the path to margins bottoming in lab you know between you know some of the initiatives cory's you know identified and then again anything around you know pricing um you know uh numbers you can give us you know we haven't heard anything about kind of um you know to quantify the pricing headwind when we look at the you know gross margin performance in the second quarter tyco you know being you know down 100 140 basis points wherever it landed there You know, there's a priced and mixed component to that, but most of that is price that we see living through into the second half. You know, in an environment where volume growth is relatively, you know, muted, you know, of course, absorption, you know, becomes an issue. One of the things that, you know, we're excited about is we don't have it, you know, built into the outlook and will be a tailwind to the, you know, to the prince going forward. But as these share gains materialize, those will fall through disproportionately, and you'll see some nice things happening there due to better absorption. I think it's important to note and kind of go back to, look, this business has a longstanding track record of margin expansion. We have a very disciplined approach to offsetting inflation, and you see the actions we're taking on cost. You know, Corey and his team, as you noted, are, you know, driving some aggressive actions to, you know, continue to lean in, you know, to accelerate the growth of the business and improve the operating, you know, leverage in the business. And, you know, the strategy we're deploying in this environment is, you know, to protect and grow our shares so that we have the opportunity to expand these margins as we move forward. I don't think our view on kind of long-term margins for this business, you know, are impacted by the outlook we have here for the second half.
And then just lastly on bioprocessing, I want to make sure I understand the dynamics. I mean, the Sarepta headline was in March. You guys guided late April. MRA demand has been kind of falling off, you know, really a lot this year and end of last year as well. So I guess did it come kind of, you know, as a surprise to you post-guidance? And then also, what actions specifically are you taking? You flagged, you know, you are taking actions in bioprocessing. What are you actually doing here to improve visibility?
Yeah, a couple of things on that, Tycho. You know, firstly, you know, the headwinds that impact us in the quarter certainly were unexpected and materialized, you know, probably halfway through the quarter. And, you know, given that we're talking just, you know, really a couple of customers there, you know, we had, you know, given the relationships that we have there, We have a few pretty tight, you know, connections to our team. And, you know, they came to us middle of the quarter and, you know, substantially, you know, cut their outlooks to us at that time. You know, we benefit from being in a heavily regulated environment where we're specced in. The downside to that, of course, is, you know, trying to offset, you know, unexpected headwinds in the near term can be, you know, a bit of a challenge. But, you know, nevertheless, consistent with our theme of, you know, controlling the things that we can control. You know, Benoit and his team really are leaning in aggressively on the things that they can action. You know, three specific things I'd point you to, Tycho. You know, firstly, both for lab as well as bioprocessing, our delivery performance is one of the key differentiators of the platform. And Ben Juan and his team have some, you know, really aggressive actions that they're taking there to continue to push us towards best in class. You know, similar to the actions that Corey have taken on ramping commercial intensity, particular in certain segments, we see Ben Juan and his team doing that as well. Think about areas like biosimilars, some of the newer modalities, antibody drug conjugates, for example. So really doubling down in some of the more attractive growth opportunities. And then lastly, this is an innovation-driven business. Incredible focus on continuing to extend the technology and make sure that we have relevant content to offer our customers. So those are probably the three most important areas that Benoit and his team are focused on here in the near term.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Patrick Donnelly with Citi. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Michael, maybe just on the bioprofiting business, obviously, you certainly understand the company or the customer-specific issues there. Can you just talk broadly on the business in terms of what you saw on the order side? Maybe, if you can, kind of a little bit X some of the one-time issues, you know, where lead times are. Just curious what you're seeing in that business outside some of the near-term noise here.
Yeah, our perspective on the bioprocessing business is that we continue to be extremely encouraged by, you know, the ongoing recovery and strengthening of the end market, you know, consistent with the, you know, the industry or end market exposure here, most of the revenue is coming from monoclonals and, you know, the demand for our, you know, solutions for that platform, you know, remain incredibly strong. And, you know, we'll just reiterate that, you know, had we not run into these couple of discrete headwinds, you know, our platform would have performed, you know, very much in line with the end market as well as, you know, some of the other prints that you've, you know, seen here. You know, one of the things that we have been doing over the last, you know, number of years is leaning in on some of these new modalities. You know, our revenue exposure there would be, you know, probably consistent with the number of approvals you see overall in that end market relative to the MAPS. It's just to say it's probably less than 10% of our total platform. But one of the attributes of developing technology set like that is there's not a lot of approvals out there. And we have benefited from putting more content on those new modalities than, say, we have historically, just given some of the strengths of our platform and innovation model. And so when you have a customer to encounter some challenges, some growing pains, if you will, it does have a bit of an outsized impact on us. So I wouldn't use the print in the quarter or the outlook for the back half of the year to read through our aid, the strength and relevance of our platform, nor our view on the end market. We remain incredibly bullish about the ongoing recovery. And, you know, you asked a little bit about lead times there. You know, our supply chain has been, you know, transacting normally now for, you know, quite a number of quarters, which, you know, for us means, you know, we probably have a two to three, you know, month, you know, lag from order to delivery on average.
And then, obviously, you know, new CEO coming in. We'll wait to hear from him directly, obviously. But just in terms of the hiring process, what attracted you guys to him? And again, any changes we should expect, whether it's capital allocation, you know, the approach to the business. I'm curious, just the overall view on that front would be helpful.
I would reiterate, Emmanuel will start here in a couple of weeks, August 18th. And as we've indicated, I'll continue to stay fully engaged and direct the business up until then. You know, the board led a very thorough process, and I think, you know, Emmanuel's background, you know, speaks for itself. He's an industry veteran with over 30 years' experience in this space and, you know, with a particular, you know, strength in bioprocessing, you know, given the work that he did at, you know, first GE and then ultimately over at, you know, Cytiva within Danaher. I know that he's incredibly excited to get started, and, you know, with his experience and familiarity with the space, he'll no doubt hit the ground running. We do have a very good process in place, I'm sure a smooth transition, and, you know, I'm confident that that will indeed occur. You know, certainly wouldn't want to get ahead of the work he'll do here in setting his agenda for him. I know in the early days he'll be, you know, very focused on engaging with our customers, with our team, with our board. And, you know, you'll hear from him, you know, at least in the third quarter call. And, you know, as his, you know, agenda and priorities, you know, develop, I'm sure he'll be anxious to share those with you all.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Doug Jenkel with Wolf Research. Please go ahead, Doug.
Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. So, a couple on VWR. First, I believe you mentioned a major contract extension as you talked about future share gains. I just want to better understand why are those share gains if they are extensions? Are you getting commitments from some existing customers to spend more and or are these becoming exclusives? Again, I just want to better understand the link between those comments. So that's the first thing. Second, it sounds like you're using price as part of a share gain strategy. That's obviously come up a lot this morning. How does this impact near and long-term margin targets? And I guess kind of cutting to the chase, does that mean that LSS margin should stay in the low double digits? Last one, and then I'll move back into the queue and listen.
On margins, you're just given the bioprocess and what we just, just wondering what gives I'll be happy to give you some color on the account wins and share gains in the quarter, and Brent can weigh in on your questions around margin. So a couple of things on the account wins there. We do have a very clear strategy here of protecting and growing share, and that was part of the agenda that we outlined for Corey as he, you know, stepped in and, you know, leaned in aggressively with our commercial team to protect our business. And, you know, in the quarter, you know, we had a number of, you know, large farm accounts, you know, several, in fact, you know, where, you know, the business was being, you know, competitively, you know, up for bid. And, you know, we were able to, you know, retain the existing business that we had, as well as, you know, grab, you know, some of the business at those accounts that we didn't have. And the net impact of the success we had in the quarter was a net increase as the conversion occurs over the next couple of quarters of more than $100 million. So substantial share gains there. And I would also note, I think we probably drove some nice share gains in the academia market, given the mid-single growth there that we printed. We also announced that we extended, you know, prematurely our, you know, relationship with Bio, which is the largest purchasing consortium, you know, serving BioPharma and Biotech with more than 10,000, you know, customers collectively making it our largest account. And so I think you put all that together and you see a couple of things, you know, one, we are, you know, eager to, you know, invest and continue to grow our business and ensure that we have, you know, a customer base to do that off of. But I think more importantly, you see just the relevance and strength of the platform and customers voting, you know, to do business with us. We offer, you know, a lot of efficiency, a lot of optionality, certainly a broad portfolio and, you know, a best-in-class supply chain here. So really pleased to see the differentiation of the platform, you know, coming through and, you know, we'll continue to execute on that strategy. Of course, it is coming at the expense of margin rate, but, you know, we're keenly focused on, you know, preserving, you know, absolute margin dollars overall. And, you know, over the long term, you know, I'm no doubt we'll have an opportunity to improve the margins as we as we execute our playbook here.
Hey, Doug, jumping off Michael's comments there. I mean, you're I think your observation in the near term on lab solutions segment operating margin is correct. You know, we need to play through these contract extensions. We need the absorption from the additional volume here. There absolutely is a price share dynamic here, but I think this share is super important to us. So that is a necessary consequence of it. We get volume. We'll continue to be vigilant on our own cost, and then we'll have a path to accruing that, and we'll talk more about that when Emmanuel is here and in future quarters looking into 26. But, look, we are not excited about the margin piece of it, but we are excited about the wins and what they mean for the prospects of that business. Your comments to Q4, that observation is true if you get to the very high end of it. When I sort of think of both organic growth and on a margin basis, you know, if we're at the low end, it's sort of very consistent with where we're tracking. and this goes back to Mike Riskin's question as well, you know, where we'd be tracking you, not have dissimilar growth. In the mid, you need some of that in Q4, and the important point there that we expect more silicones in Q4, as well as some additional bioprocessing there, so you get that in a mix-up, and then at the high end, you'd approach margin rates that you were citing, but also happy to follow up on any of the arithmetic or alignment there. So, thank you.
Thank you. Those are all the questions we have time for today, and so I'll turn the call back over to Michael for closing remarks.
Yeah, thank you, everyone, for joining us today. Thank you for your partnership and support over the years. That'll conclude our call today. Hope you all have a great day, and be well, everyone.
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