Preferred Bank (PFBC) Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Preferred Bank Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's remarks, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Haas of Financial Profiles. Please go ahead, sir. Thank you, Cole.

Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss Preferred Bank's financial results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2026. With me today from management are Chairman and CEO Li Yu, President and Chief Operating Officer Wellington Chen, Chief Financial Officer Edward Chayka, Chief Risk Officer Nick Pai, and Deputy Chief Operating Officer Johnny Su. Management will provide a brief summary of the results, and then we will open up the call to your questions. During the course of this conference call, statements made by management may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements are based upon specific assumptions that may or may not prove correct. Forward-looking statements are also subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors relating to preferred banks, operations, and business environment, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the control of Preferred Bank. For a detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the SEC-required documents the bank files with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, or FDIC. If any of these risks materialize or any of these assumptions prove incorrect, Preferred Bank's results could differ materially from its expectations as set forth in these statements. Preferred Bank assumes no obligation to update such forward-looking statements. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Li Yu. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Thank you all for joining our conference phone call. Good morning. We are pleased to report that our net income for the second quarter of 2026 was $33.5 million off $2.78 as share. This number compares favorably with previous quarter and same quarter of the previous year. It also exceeded our internal budget. For this quarter, we have been quite focused on the resolution of troubled assets. Okay, non-performing loans during the quarter has been reduced $70 million or 41.5%, okay. And likewise, the criticized loans has been reduced by $90 million or 34%, with the large reduction in classified assets or criticize loans. The reserve requirement on these items has been reduced. Therefore, our provision expense for the quarter is $1.2 million. Looking ahead at June 30th, we still have three more loans totaling $60 million, non-performing loans totaling $60 million scheduled to be resolved in the second half of 2026. However, as each one of them is involved in its own bankruptcy case proceeding, the exact That timing of the resolution will be at the mercy of our legal system. This quarter we have satisfactory or good loan production activities. Loan increased $125 million off two descending order basis. But if you count in the, we also made up the $70 million of loan we sold. The actual origination effort was on the deposit side. It only increased $52 million or a 0.8% in quarter basis. We are aware nationwide, all banks or the entire banking industry is reporting stiff competition in deposits. Going forward, this will also be our focused net interest margin was 3.73%, favorably affected by the interest recovery. Our efficiency ratio was steady at 32% under currently the inflationary environment. All these underlying activities make us feel pretty comfortable about our operations, and we're optimistic regarding the remainder of the year. Thank you very much. I'm ready for your questions.

And ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. And at this time, we will pause momentarily for the first question. Our first question today will come from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. I guess first on the loan yields, nice interest recovery there, stripping that out. It looks like loan yields maybe reset to about 7%, barring additional recoveries. I guess maybe any comments on loan pricing, whether or not you can kind of hold that yield if the Fed stays on hold or do you think there's some incremental pressure there?

I will first let you know to answer that, okay? That way, that, okay.

Well, the market is very competitive. We try to squeeze every, you know, 10 bids, 25 bids, having to say that we want to make sure that we are disciplined enough to take on the loan that give us some quality loan, again, quality loan that give us a type of...

Matthew, every bank, every year is crying for loan competition. It's become a standard language nowadays. But we're very fortunate. We're able to, I guess because we turn over more stones, we get a little bit better years than our peer group. And I probably can verify that by the call reports.

Okay, great. And then on the deposit pricing side, it sounds like from the release that there was some upward pressure on deposits throughout the quarter. Do you have the cost of deposits in the month of June? And then maybe remind us of the CDs that you have come and due over the next two quarters and the roll-off, roll-on rates?

Two quarters. You threw me a curveball there, Matthew. First off, the cost of deposits, total deposits was $306 as of the month of June. Cost of interest-bearing deposits was $344. The cost of total deposits has been held in check, not necessarily by the rate environment, but by the fact that somewhat we're seeing a slight change in the mix of our deposits. We've seen some decent growth in DDA, which has certainly helped keep deposit costs down. In terms of going forward, we have $1.5 billion maturing in the Q3 of total CDs at an average rate of $3.80. Those will likely come back on at a slightly higher rate than $3.80, and I don't have the fourth quarter roll-off.

That's okay. So NIM probably resetting back down to the low $3.50s is fair here in the 3Q?

So, on an adjusted basis, it was 360 for Q2. When you strip out the noise with respect to the interest recoveries, it was 360. So, yeah, we would expect probably mid-350s for Q3.

Okay. And then last one for me, just on the expense run rate, relatively flat this quarter, the outlook there in the second half?

Yeah, we were a little disappointed with respect to non-interest expense this quarter, Matthew. Professional services, namely legal fees, were elevated because of the large relationship that we're working through right now that Mr. Yu touched on. So in terms of going forward, I would look at, I would say Q3 is going to be fairly flat to Q2.

Might be a little better. because, you know, everything starts to catch up in cost, okay? It's just getting simply every same service, same item, it's cost for maybe more nowadays, you know?

Great. Thanks again.

Our next question will come from Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning. I just wanted to ask about loan growth. it sounded like you guys have a fairly constructive outlook for the back half of the year, if I interpreted that correctly. Could you kind of talk about maybe expectations around that?

Well, obviously Q2 was very strong. As Mr. Yu mentioned, without the sale of the two notes, net growth would have been closer to $180 million. But in terms of Q3...

Actually, $194 million. in any and then also that's after a large payoff, you know, activities. Okay, so actually the new loan origination. But, you know, things just bouncing around, partially affected by interest rate movement in the Fed level, okay. I still remember in early spring, okay, in springtime, the whole country is anticipating rate cuts. and there's a lot of optimism going forward and people getting to the deal based on, I mean, in the case of, I mean, CMI activity or in the case of real estate based on a new cap rate they want to come into deal. Then suddenly things take a change in June and everybody is talking about, oh, there will be rate increases in July, okay? Now with July's COVID report, where is it? So we see a lot of hesitation on the customer side. At least they get their deal delayed or just not going forward as fast as it used to be. So that and the much increased level of activities from the non-bank lender, their competition. We think that going forward in the third quarter certainly will be a lot tougher in the second quarter. but whether it will recover in the fourth quarter and it will become a lot we just have to be very flexible and take opportunity as it comes I don't know if that answers your question that's about all we do all we can do I appreciate the thoughts on that, thank you and our next question will come from David Feaster with Raven James please go ahead hey good morning everybody um it's look the the loan origination trend is it's extremely

encouraging i'm curious how much of this is is really a function of improving demand versus increasing productivity from your team and it just kind of like where are you seeing strength how's the pipeline shaking up and and you know again how is demand across your foot Well, from my angle, I see in the second quarter, the increase in demand, I just mentioned that early in the quarter, there's a lot more optimism in our customers' level than it is today, okay, regarding the rate of cost they have to pay, okay.

So, obviously, that the same level of optimism is not there anymore compared to the screen But how's the pipeline shaping up? How do you see the activities going forward? Can you guys answer that? You want to take a shot first?

I'll chime in. I have some ideas. Yeah, David, the pipeline's still pretty good. I think opportunities are still out there to review deals. We're getting a lot of deals that we are looking at. Not all of them seem to make sense from a combination of a pricing standpoint or what have you, but the pipeline is still pretty vibrant. It's just, we're seeing more deals right now. Again, as I mentioned earlier, loan demand is high out there, but it's the quality loan demand that we're looking for. And every quality loan demand, we're more competitive because every bank out there or private lender, they all want those type of loans, or maybe not private lender. But then, so, and we try to squeeze every penny out, you know, squeeze another 10 bits or maybe 20 or whatever, a little bit here and there. So our production team, they work very hard, keep turning stone, keep turning up, you know, quality loan demand, and then we have to, you know, again, be disciplined and be very selective. So having to say all that, to repeat what we did in the second quarter, as Mr. Yu said, well, you know, we always try to do our best to, you know, fill our loan portfolio that's profitable and sustainable.

And then, you know, we touched on the deposit pricing competition. I mean, the NIV growth you saw this quarter was great, and that's, you know, obviously helped with the funding cost side and on the margin as well. I'm curious, how do you think about, again, with this competitive backdrop, how do you think about your ability to drive core deposit growth going forward?

That is also a mandate within our internal operation, okay? But realizing that everybody is doing the same thing and realizing we've got one more situation that is really affecting us, which is a stock market, and especially the opportunity that AI stock is providing to the general public. We see many, many customers investing their excess cash into the stock market today as compared to the old days where saving in the bank is to make something uncomfortable. okay but the trend is that everybody is joining the stock market now so this another competition level that that we're facing right now and we just we just have to you know try our best to increase our other to improve our mix look deposit level cost you in whatever event whatever is out there you know yeah

Yeah, and maybe kind of just to that point, right, maybe a philosophical question. You know, how do you think about NII growth relative to the margin here? I know in the past we've discussed and, you know, you look at the margin as an output, not an input, right? I'm curious, is that still the philosophy and whether you're willing to compete? You know, you talk about paying what you're going to pay. Are you willing to compete on pricing and sacrifice some margin to drive NII growth and just help us think through the margin trajectory as we look forward kind of in this rate environment.

Frankly speaking, that this bank has traditionally given a lot of opportunity that our loan office brings to us, but because many of the loans that bring over does not meet a rate requirement, which because that the deposit we have to pay, we like to be more selective in our rates. So, I mean, competition, low-cost competition is never, never our answer to the whole situation. And when you do too much, then you're loading your balance sheet with all kinds of low-rate loans. And it's hard to get out of it, I guess. We all see several cases that cause some of the even the bank failure, you know. So we are very careful that try to stay, first of all, hopefully as a sensitive that will keep our deposits and loan rates aligned. And number two is the situation, select the rate of the loans we think is proper for us. The plates come to us, we become little bit selective sometimes.

David, I'll just add to that. And you and I have had this discussion many times. we focus more on net interest income growth as opposed to managing to the margin. The margin is simply a mathematical output of how well we execute it.

And, I mean, again, you're operating with a healthy margin. I'm just kind of curious if we're willing to sustain it there or if we're focused on expanding it as we kind of look beyond that, you know, the fourth quarter and beyond.

I'm sorry, was there a question in there?

It was an open-ended statement, I guess.

You know, what it is, I mean, we've already talked about, you know, there's differential in loan yields on payoffs versus new origination. Pricing is tight. Deposit pricing is difficult. So, I mean, those obviously all lead to, you know, those kind of all point to some compression in the margin going forward and probably on into next year. Thanks, everybody.

And our next question will come from Tim Kofay with Green Capital. Thanks, Warren. there, right.

Just getting back to the deposit question and the competition. So I guess your first half of the year on deposit growth, you're running kind of low single digits. Is that a reasonable run rate for the full year?

Well, we hope not. We'd certainly like to increase that. But, you know, as we've talked about before, and Tim, you know this, there's no pipeline for deposits. So that's the real challenge and not necessarily knowing what's, you know, what's coming three months, two months down the road. So we just have to continue to work. You know, I think the, you know, as I said, the growth in DDA on a year-to-date basis is very encouraging. We'd like to continue to work toward that end for sure.

Okay. And then, so how should I think about your loan or deposit ratio? Because it does seem like you've got some room to kind of potentially hold it at the current level. Is there any appetite to take it higher?

Well, right now we're running about 95%. Bounce around a bit in there. And internally that we are both here comfortable with that particular situation. So I guess short term we can let it rise a little bit, but long term we'd like to keep that ratio. We think liquidity for us is very important.

Okay, got it. And then on the allowance, And it's running at the low end of kind of the historical range, say six years or so. You know, everything remains kind of the way it is right now. No changes to really kind of the inputs that determine a provision at this point. Do you feel the need to kind of refill the bucket?

I'm not.

I'll let, I think Nick probably should answer that. So the question was, do we want to, in terms of increase the A-triple-L to the total?

Yes. So for Q2, our ratio is 1.22% of the total loan, and based on the current credit quality trend of the bank, as you know, Q2, we have a lot of resolutions, and credit trend is heading in the right direction. So we do reserve a quarter-sized reserve on the Q side as well in terms of covering the current uncertainties regarding inflation, high employment, all those kind of things. So we believe for the upcoming quarters, it should be still a state approximately at a similar level of the reserve at this moment. Definitely. If there's any changes, we'll adjust that right away in order to adjust our assumptions for a reserve side.

Okay, great. And then just my last question has to do with capital. Say loan growth doesn't pick up the way you're anticipating. Would you consider getting back into the market for buying back shares?

Yes, obviously that will be the use of the capital item that was continuous under-evaluation going forward.

Those are my questions. I appreciate your time. Thank you.

And this will conclude our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Li Yu for any closing remarks.

Thank you so very much. And I hope that we can continue to report results in XSL and only our expectation. Thank you.

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines at this time.