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Good afternoon, and welcome to Ultragenic's first quarter 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. At the end of the prepared remarks, you will have an opportunity to ask questions during the Q&A portion of the call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Joshua Higa, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Thank you. We have issued a press release detailing our financial results, which you can find on our website at ultragenics.com. Joining me on this call are Emil Kakis, Chief Executive Officer and President, Eric Harris, Chief Commercial Officer, Howard Horn, Chief Financial Officer, and Eric Kronbez, Chief Medical Officer. I'd like to remind everyone that during today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially. Please refer to the risk factors discussed in our latest SEC filings. I'll now turn the call over to Abel.
Thanks, Josh, and good afternoon, everyone. We are now in our 16th year since our founding, and this year is expected to be transformative with growing revenue and multiple new drug approvals. We're on track to well exceed $700 million in revenue from our global commercial business with a consistent track record of double-digit annual revenue growth. We have a VADUCA date for two gene therapies that would bring first-ever treatments to patients and families with no other disease-modifying options. Also, we will unblind our Phase III ASPIRE study, evaluating GTX-102 in patients with Ainge-1 syndrome in the second half of this year. We continue to execute global clinical trials across the largest late-stage pipeline in rare diseases. We're also manufacturing our gene therapy products in our new facility in Bedford, Massachusetts. I'll start with GTX102 for Ainsman syndrome. The first patients enrolled in the Phase 3 ESPAR study have reached their day 338 visit and have transitioned to open-label extension study. The rest of the patients will be completing the blinded portion of the study in the next few months and crossing over to open-label extension. With the Aurora study, we are expanding GTX-1 and 2 treatment to other ages and genetic types of Ainsman syndrome, and enrollment that study continues to go well. We prefer to develop the first-ever treatments for diseases that have not had significant breakthroughs in the past, and so do not typically work in disease areas where there are other competitor programs at similar stages of development. In the case of Ainsman syndrome, we made an exception given the size indication and the excellent work genetics had done with the scientist Scott Dindo to develop a potent ASO that worked in a large animal model rather than just mice, which often do not predict human biology. The preclinical research Scott conducted in his lab at Texas A&M is a tour de force of molecular genetics. He was able to identify and target a separate and distinct region of the Anderson's Messaged transcript that has led to more efficient transcript knockdown and greater potency in the clinic. This was the superior science that led us to study Ainsman syndrome. Later in the call, Dr. Prombas will walk through the longer-term escasee durability and safety data from the phase 1-2 study in his section, but I want to highlight now that we have 66 patients on therapy for an average of three years and with the longest approaching five years, with continuing and improving benefits across multiple domains and with a favorable safety profile. Based on this longer-term data, we believe GTS 1 and 2 can deliver clinically meaningful treatment effects and can be safely administered in chronic dosing. What we see in the Phase 1 and 2 data, we believe GTS 1 and 2 is making an important difference in the lives of these patients and their families. Shifting now to our global commercial efforts, our commercial business continues to deliver. We're now generating revenue in more than 35 countries, a result of strategically investing in high-quality teams who can efficiently navigate the complex approval and re-immersion process around the world. This reflects a disciplined country-by-country execution our teams deliver every quarter. This base business is not only generating meaningful and growing revenue, it is the engine that will power our next phase of growth. Our teams currently commercializing Del Jolie and MetSavvy are poised to add DTX-401 and US-111 to their responsibilities as we look forward to approvals for these two products later this year. Our established global commercial business is bringing first-ever treatments to patients who need them, paving the path to profitability in 2027. I'll now turn the call over to our Chief Commercial Officer, Eric Harris, who will provide details on his team's efforts in the first quarter.
Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. As Amo mentioned, the underlying business remains strong, and we are well positioned to capitalize on the potential upcoming launches. Howard will share details, but we remain fully confident in our 2026 revenue guidance. Throughout the first quarter, the commercial and field teams have continued to meet the growing demand for our products across the globe. I'll start with Chris Vida and want to put the first quarter revenue in the right context. The revenue in North America, Latin America, and Turkey was consistent with our expectations and the ordering patterns we have seen in prior years. This is a business we know well. We see continued strength in the underlying demand across all of our regions, including in markets like Brazil where bulk orders by the Ministry of Health can result in quarter-to-quarter variability. In Latin America, approximately 30 patients began commercial therapy in the first quarter, bringing the total number of patients on CRISPR to more than 950 in the region. We remain fully confident in the fundamentals and strength of the business, and along with our partner, KKC in North America, our ability to continue to find and treat patients with XLH and TIO. Gifting now to DeJovey, where the trend of our steady growth continues six years post-approval. In the first quarter, our North American team generated more than 30 start forms, far exceeding their target for the quarter. In North America, we now have more than 675 patients on reimbursed therapy, and in Europe, there are approximately 300 being treated through named patient or early access programs. The next stage of growth is likely to come from Japan, where DeJolvi was granted conditional approval last year, and we look forward to the full approval and launch of the product this quarter. I'll close with EFKISA, which is another example of our experienced team's ability to successfully commercialize rare disease products. In our region outside of the United States, we are seeing exceptional growth from this program as our international commercial teams navigate the country-by-country reimbursement process and respond to requests for early access from patients and their physicians. In total, there are approximately 370 patients across 18 countries who are receiving FKESA. We expect this will continue to be an important and growing contributor to our revenue base. Beyond the individual product performance, I want to step back and highlight what I believe is the true strength of this business, the scale and reach of our global commercial infrastructure. That depth of market presence across rare disease markets that require significant expertise, patient finding capability, and reimbursement navigation is a genuine advantage. It is what enables us to efficiently bring first-ever treatments to rare disease patients. And critically, this infrastructure and experienced team are what give me confidence as we look toward the rest of the year. My team is preparing for two new product launches, DTX401 with a PDUFA date of August 23, 2026, and UX111 with a PDUFA date of September 19, 2026. The launch readiness work is well underway across both programs, and we are building on the infrastructure and expertise we have already established. With that, I'll turn the call to Howard to share more details on our financial results and guidance.
Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll focus on our first quarter financial results and guidance for the year. Starting with revenue, total revenue for the first quarter of 2026 was $136 million. Chris Vita contributed $93 million, including $39 million from North America, $46 million from Latin America and Turkey, and $8 million from Europe, which were consistent with the anticipated quarterly timing and trends Eric just mentioned. Dejolvi contributed $18 million, consistent with their expectation for steady demand growth. Evkiza also contributed $18 million, representing 64% growth over the first quarter of 2025, as demand continues to build following launches in our territories outside of the United States. Lastly, MEPCEVI contributed $7 million, as we continue to treat patients in this ultra-rare indication. Total operating expenses for the quarter were $305 million, which included cost of sales of $30 million and combined R&D and SG&A expenses of $275 million. Total operating expenses included $30 million of non-cash stock-based compensation and $30 million of expenses related to the restructuring announced last quarter. For the quarter, net loss was $185 million, or $1.84 per share. As of March 31, we had $534 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities. Net cash used in operations for the quarter was $197 million. Recall, in the first quarter of the year, we typically use more operating cash than in each of the subsequent three quarters because it includes items like the payment of annual bonuses. In addition, the first quarter of 2026 included $38 million in payments related to UX143 manufacturing activities, as well as $5 million related to severance and other payments from our recent reduction in force. Net cash used in operations are expected to decrease in the remaining quarters of this year as we continue on our pathway to profitability in 2027. Shifting now to guidance for 2026, we are reaffirming the revenue guidance we provided in February. Total revenue in 2026 is expected to be between $730 and $760 million, which represents 8% to 13% growth over 2025 and excludes potential revenue from new product launches. Cresvita revenue is expected to be between $500 and $520 million, which includes all regions and all forms of Cresvita revenue to Ultragenix. This range reflects growing underlying global demand, partially offset by expected timing of ordering patterns in Brazil that we anticipate will normalize in 2027. Pejolvi revenue is expected to be between $100 and $110 million. We are also reaffirming the R&D and SG&A guidance we provided on our last call. Specifically, we expect 2026 combined R&D and SG&A expenses to be flat to down low single digits versus 2025. We also continue to expect 2027 combined R&D and SG&A expenses to decrease at least 15% in 2027 versus 2025. With that, I'll turn the call to our Chief Medical Officer, Eric Krumbez.
Thank you, Howard, and good afternoon, everyone. As Amal mentioned in the opening, I'll focus on the clinically meaningful Phase 1-2 data that we have generated with GTX-102, are antisense oligonucleotide for the treatment of Angelman syndrome. This data is from our Phase I-II open-label single-arm studies, which informed the design of the Phase III double-blind sham-controlled ASPIRE study. Given the differences in study design, these Phase I-II results are not necessarily predictive of Phase III outcomes. In our press release earlier today, we highlighted that a total of 74 patients have been treated with GTX-102 as part of our Phase I-II program. This is one of our largest Phase I-II studies we have conducted and was designed to inform the dose, dose regimen, and endpoints for our Phase III studies. There are now 66 patients in long-term extension study, with patients generally receiving the 14-milligram quarterly intersecal maintenance dose. These patients have now been on continuous therapy for an average of three years, and some patients are now in their fifth year of treatment. These patients continue to demonstrate improvement across multiple developmental domains with no new cases of transient lower extremity weakness. We took a cut of the data in March of this year to be able to highlight the long-term safety and efficacy of GTX-102 in a forthcoming manuscript, and I wanted to share a high-level summary today. Starting with the Bayley-4 cognitive raw score, there are 53 patients in the Phase 1-2 study with a Bayley-4 cognitive raw score among 12. At this time point, they were approaching a mean change from baseline of 10 points, exceeding the meaningful score difference of 6 points, and with longer-term follow-up, we see continuing and improving benefits in cognition. Turning to the Multi-Domain Responder Index, or MDRI, that uses clinically meaningful score differences consistent with FDA guidance, as opposed to statistically driven changes, to determine a positive or negative response across five different developmental domains. In the Phase 1-2 data set, we now have NDRI data at month 12, 24, and 36 that evaluates response across cognition, communication, behavior, sleep, and gross motor. When comparing response baseline, the p-value across all three time points is less than 0.0001. Not only is this a very powerful statistical assessment of five different measures, it is consistent with doctors and families' broader view of neurologic diseases like Angelman's. It is the intersection of all of these developmental changes that reflect how individual patients truly respond to a treatment in a holistic way. In the 48-week ASPIRE Phase III study, we have primary statistical alpha split between the Bayley-4 cognitive raw score and the NDRI. This is not a hierarchical evaluation, meaning that both of these endpoints will be tested in parallel. If the Bayley cognition hits less than 0.04 or if NDRI hits less than 0.01, we will have a statistically successful Phase III study. We also took a look at expressive communication in our Phase I-II study assessed by the Bayley-IV. Similar to cognition, we saw meaningful improvements in expressive communication that continued and improved in longer-term follow-up. Based on the totality of data generated in our Phase I-II program, I remain confident that the developmental progress and continued learning of new skills in these patients supports a meaningful benefit of using this ASO to provide UBE3A from the paternal allele. I'm looking forward to seeing the results from our Phase III studies and the potential to replicate these results in larger controlled studies. Now I'll turn the call back to AML to provide a reminder of our catalyst for 2026 and some closing remarks.
Thank you, Eric. I'll close with a few of the catalysts we have later this year. A full list can be seen in the corporate deck posted to our website. Starting with DTX-401 for the treatment of glycogen surgery type 1A, we continue to work well with the FDA and look forward to our Purdue for Action date of August 23rd. The FDA has also informed us that an ADCOM is not planned. Next, for UX-111 for the treatment of Sanfilippo syndrome, the delay that was resubmitted earlier this year is being reviewed with a PDUFA action date of September 19th. Lastly, GTX-122 for the treatment of Ainsen syndrome is on track for readout top-line phase three days when they aspire to study in the second half of the year. Ultronix has been one of the most productive companies in rare disease companies in the industry and taking programs from early research to approved therapies for patients who have no other options. We've done it across multiple modalities, multiple therapeutic areas, and we look forward to bringing the next set of first-ever treatments to the patients and even. The surgery and late-stage programs in the last two years has challenged us like it would anyone, but the benefit is once we turn the corner of these programs into approved products, We have the potential for a significant acceleration in our growth that will be a special moment in the history of olfagenics. With that, let's move on to your questions. Operator, please provide the Q&A instructions.
Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Confirmation to indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. As a reminder, we ask that you please limit to one question and one follow-up. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing those darkies. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Tazine Ahmad with Bank of America. Your line is now live.
Hey, guys. This is Daniel on for Tazine. Thank you for taking your question. I was just wondering if you could comment on the new update for AngelLens. Like, what level of consistency are you seeing for patients improving on the Bayley 4 and the MDRI? And, you know, kind of how we should think about variability between the two endpoints for the Phase 3?
I'll touch on it. Maybe Eric can add some more. I think the daily that we're conducting is being done with – primarily with an outside firm that's coming and doing the test at the site. So, this is – we're running a very high-quality operation in terms of how we'll measure the test to help reduce variability. I think the consistency is something we can't comment on at this point in a Phase 3 study, but we can talk about how it's looked in Phase 2. I think it should be expected to be similar to what we've seen before. And I think the MDRI has been a very robust and consistent measure just in its nature because it has multiple domains that we've seen strong results, and I think Eric just talked about them. So, Eric, what do you think about the Bayley-4 consistency?
Yeah, so I think, you know, looking at the results from Phase I, II, and very much applied to how we designed Phase III, the most important thing we did was include patients with full deletions. This means they're expressing no UBE3A and gives you a very consistent patient population, driving those consistent results we saw in Phase II and what we think will be replicated there. And then, again, as a reminder, bringing patients with other mutations that add variability into our second Phase III study, Aurora. Yeah, that's a very good point, Eric.
Yeah, consistent genetic type will definitely help us get consistency, particularly consistently in what the placebo or the untreated sham will do, because without treatment, patients with aging do not gain on the daily floor significantly. Let's move on to the next question.
Our next question comes from Joseph Schwartz with Larenk Partners. Your line is now live.
Thanks very much. So a couple questions on GTX 102. to, in ASPIRE, are you stratifying randomization or pre-specifying subgroups by any baseline factors? It seems like in rare pediatric trials, even modest imbalances in baseline severity could be important, and there's some literature in Angelman that this could influence variability. I'm just wondering how confident you are that ASPIRE is protected against any potential
baseline imbalances. Well, thanks, y'all. I'll let Eric action specifically. In general, for all of our programs, we are very aware of this whole skewing issue on the organization. So, we will always, for primary endpoints, we'll stratify our primary endpoint, do our best we can, however, nothing is perfect. So, what are we doing for Ainsman? Yeah. So, specifically for
Aspire, we stratify both by age and cognitive raw score, that being our primary endpoint. We want to make sure we have consistent balance there. Okay. And then we noticed that you haven't
narrowed the timing for Aspire top line data yet. Do you have any sense when during second half of 26, you might report the data? Is late third quarter a good assumption since you finished
enrollment in late July last year? It's fun, isn't it? Keeping you in the dark about exactly when it's happening. Yes. I think you probably can guess based on the timing of things. The question is that when you close out an international study, a lot of endpoints, you do want to do it carefully. And so we're not being precise on that only because we want to give ourselves time to get everything straight before we do unblinding. We've said the second half, but you can tell by when last patient in was, you know, roughly when the trial should have the last patient out. But the timing it takes to finish up a study with CHAM, there's EEGs, there's a lot of things in there that it will take a little time. So we give it a phase three program. We're going to take the time to make sure we're being a little non-specific now, but it's all on track. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Maury Raycroft with Jeffries. Your line is now live.
Hi, thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the progress. The phase one, two longer term commentary is helpful. Just clarifying, could we see the detailed phase one, two data ahead of the phase three top line. And it seems like you're seeing a clear stat-sig signal on MDRI in the phase one, two. And based on the point improvement you mentioned for cognition, I'm wondering if you're seeing a stat-sig p-value for cognition versus the natural history study
data set. Well, I think we've commented on the primary endpoint natural history comparison before in our powering analyses. I think we've said that, that we would be well-powered. So, I think that that's already sort of an analysis. The NRI is just an extremely powerful method. I think it's a way forward for neuralized diseases. You question, you ask, will you see the detailed data? Probably not. I think we haven't set which science meeting the data will come out yet. I would assume it will be later in the year. We have often presented things at the FAST conference, but we haven't set at this point a plan for the Phase 2 data. but it's not necessarily ahead of Phase III at this point. But we wanted to put out a little bit of data now just to keep people confidence about what's going on and just give you a sense of the magnitude and outcome and the fact that we're confident about how the drug looks and that it continues to show good safety and the kind of cognitive benefit and MDRI benefit that gives us confidence in the design and what we're conducting in Phase III.
Got it. That's helpful. Maybe one other question. I mean, just wondering if prior to the database lock-in stats plan, do you have to have any discussions with FDA on magnitude of improvement on the primary endpoints, or is it just showing a statistic benefit? Is that sufficient?
Yeah, there's no regulatory step between us and unblinding at this point. We're all agreed, and there is no defined, required, minimum change for the baleen. I think that is something that we don't need in the design. is a continuous variable. However, we will always have what is known as a clinically important change of five points. We'll always look at data that way, but the powering of the primary endpoint for Bayley cognition is based on a continuous analysis, which is really the appropriate thing to do. But if you look at the numbers we just told you, 10, that is almost twice the minimally important difference already. So I think we're at a pretty good place.
got it thanks for taking my questions our next question comes from new palm rama with jp morgan
your line is now live hey guys this is joy son for on a palm thanks for taking our question maybe just one on the two upcoming gene therapy launches dtx 401 and ux 111 in the back half of the year could you just discuss where you are in terms of commercial manufacturing and product scale-up, and just your overall readiness from a CMC launch perspective? Thanks so much.
Yeah, no, good question. I think we've been manufacturing, actually, since last year. And for GTX 401, the drug substance and drug product are both made at the plant in Bedford. And then for UX111, we have a contract manufacturer that's making drug substance in Ohio, and We're finishing the fill finish in our Bedford plant. We've been running runs last year and this year, and that's part of our expenses that we're spending money on is actually building inventory, and that's been going well, and we're building inventory and feel like we should be in a reasonable position at the time of launch at this point. So I think we're ready. I think the launch teams have been working on their work. I think the two pedufidates are quite close to each other, but the doctors we're going to are actually the same doctors. And there's certain synergy that will happen by having the same quality. Most of the centers will be doing both products. Some may do one or the other. But the qualitative treatment centers are getting set up, contracts in place. And I think the synergy with having two of them will be real. And we're excited about the possibility. Of course, we still need to get approval. But at this point, from both manufacturing and commercial standpoint, we're set up and moving forward and excited about the prospects of launching two gene therapy.
products. Great, thank you. Our next question is from Ellie Merrill with Barclays Bank.
Your line is now live. Hey guys, thanks so much for taking the question. Just can you give us any more color on how we should think about the timelines for getting data from the Aurora study and if the data are positive in the Phase 3 ASPIRE trial, how are you thinking about what your base case will be for the ages in a potential Angelman label and if this will include adults? Thanks so much.
Thank you. So, Aurora is how we're going to expand the label to other indication genotypes and ages. So, the main ASPAR study is 4 to 17, all deletion. And so, we have a younger group, the older group, and the other genotypes involved in Aurora. The study is still continuing to enroll and enrolling well, but it's also an international study, and we'll continue to collect data. So we'll have some data at that time. We haven't really said through anything about how we'd approach our filing launch. At this point in time, we're going to wait and see what the data look like and put together our plans. The study with Wargo, though, is still more enrollment to do.
Great. Thanks.
Our next question comes from Yaron Warber with TD Securities. Your line is now live.
Hi, everyone. This is Stephen on for Yaron. Thanks for taking my question, and I really appreciate the color on Angelin. You mentioned the 14-MIG was generally the maintenance dose being used. Can you give us some color on, you know, whether there might be more than one dose being used, why that might be happening, and whether there could be more than one maintenance dose in the label? And secondly, in terms of profitability projections, given that PRVs are selling for, you know, substantially over $100 million at this point? Any color on what you're modeling in terms of PRV monetization and whether we can expect that full year 27 profitability to be sustainable?
Okay. Well, I'll touch on the dose at high level. I don't know if Eric has anything more to add, but then I'll let Howard deal with the PRVs and profitability question. So the vast majority of patients are 14, and from the main trial, Well, the protocol actually in the SPIRE brings them to 14 in terms of how it's done. There are some patients that have certainly been on drug for a longer period of time in various regimens. So I don't know if there's anything else to add. I think it's a very high fraction of it on 14.
Yeah, and that is what we expect to label on. So we expect, you know, our maintenance dose of 14 milligrams every three months. You know, once we get into a commercialized setting, we have our DMP. We can explore, you know, potentially a different dosing. you know, maybe some patients would benefit from every two months. Some could benefit from a higher dose there, too. But our plan is to, you know, prior, you know, after discussion to the FDA with
a 14 milligram maintenance dose. That's really the main source of what you're going to see.
So, Howard? So, with regard to the PRV, we, you know, we watch this with interest to see how how they've been selling. As part of our plans, we have two PRVs we plan to monetize, one for 111 and one for 401. I think we've stated in the past that we've baked it into our model at a little over 100 million each. So anything above that would be upside. Of course, there's also an opportunity for a PRV with 102, which would also be upside to our model. So that's how we're thinking about monetization. And I think you'd also ask the question about sustainability of profitability post-27. Our plan is to not just hang out at the razor's edge, but to continue to grow profitability. And depending on the launches we have and their success, we'll figure out how much we can reinvest back into the pipeline versus drop to the bottom line. But that'll be a fun conversation to have in due course. Sounds like it. Thanks very much.
Our next question comes from Salvine Richter with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now live.
Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Ahead of the Phase 3 angel ones data on the second half, can you speak to the path forward in the event that MDRI hits but Bailey IV doesn't?
I think, as Eric noted today in the script, is that we still consider that a positive study. That is, we have essentially two ways to succeed, that Bailey Cog can succeed, and the AMDR-I provides maybe a more robust option. We negotiated this position with the FDA. I think while their tendency is to stick with single primary endpoints as their approach, we think the AMDR-I is actually a smarter and better way to go for neural agencies, and it's an opportunity to move in that direction. Our expectation, as Eric had said, that a missed daily four but a positive AMDR-I is still a demonstration of efficacy in the program. So obviously that would assume that, let's say, Bayley Cognition just missed and then MDRI hit. You know, that would be one potential scenario. We would not expect, for example, Bayley Cognition to go negative and then have an MDRI pause and have that work out. So the question would really be, could Bayley miss for some reason? And MDRI provides an insurance policy and support for efficacy in the product that's broader than just Cognition. So we feel like there's ways, it's two ways to win for the program, and we're actually expecting both to hit. But as you know, we can always miss our best intentions in a randomized controlled trial, but I think the combination of both gives us a higher chance of being positive, regardless of what happens in the patients.
Thanks. Let's move on to the next question.
our next question is from kristin klusta with cantor fitzgerald your line is now live
hi good afternoon for this latest angelman cut that you looked at for the phase one two data can you tell us how the one year plus data is stacking for cohorts a and b relative to what you saw across different measures for cohorts four and z and whether that's further strengthen your position of the dosing regimen and techniques you took forward in phase three
Yeah, so we've shown the core at A and B before. I think the core at A and B is continuing to behave. And I would say, remember, that's the most of the patients. C and D is relatively few patients. It's really mostly A and B. So I think what we're talking about is core at A and B extending now to the full year, and that's the data we're talking about. So it's really driven off of A and B. That A and B, we think, is pretty comparable to what you're seeing in the phase three because the A and B was in all the international sites, so that included the seven or eight countries that were also doing studies, including a high overlap with the sites that we're actually using. So I think that the A and B cohort, which is the primary driver of the data we heard about today, is very replicable with regard to what we're doing in Phase 3, both from the sites, countries, and patient types. So I think it is a good model. I think the data should be in line with what we expect in Phase 3.
Thanks. Let's move on to the next question.
Our next question comes from Maxwell's score with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now live.
Hello, this is Selena on for Max. On AngelLynn, could you describe the contribution of caregiver input to Bayley-4-Cognition in the Phase 1-2 and how that changes over time with the longer follow-up data? Thank you.
Well, thank you for that very technical, detailed question. I'm not sure everyone knew about caregiver input. input, but just be clear in the raw scores that we're using for the BAILI-4, the FDA does not want us to include caregiver input. All right, so all the analysis has to be done by the psychologist tester, and so we are not including any caregiver input in the BAILI-4 primary endpoint per FDA request. Now, out of the, I'm forgetting the number, is it 20 or 30 items or something? There's like a couple items where caregiver input, two or three, that can have an effect. So when we look at ROSC or with or without caregiver input, we don't think for BAILI for cognition is significant issue. If you're doing the expressive BAILI, there's actually a lot more caregiver input potential, and so it might have more effect on the receptive, I'm sorry, expressive communication than on cognition. So it's only a couple, two or three things we haven't seen have an impact, but we are doing it without caregiver input in the phase three trial.
So, Emil and Eric, I think the question was maybe more around the Phase 1-2 data that we've talked about. If we were able to look at that without the caregiver input, and I don't think that's how the Phase 1-2 was run.
Yes, that's correct. For Phase 1-2, we did use caregiver input, and it was, you know, part of the conversation designing Phase 3 that the FDA made that request. So, we actually performed the test both ways in Phase 3, but the primary endpoint does not use caregiver input. And that's important to eliminate bias, and that's true for both your actively treated and your control group. So it's a reasonable request.
So we can analyze without those items, and they will not have a meaningful impact. That's what I said, that if we drop them out, they do not impact it, because there's only a couple items out of a very large number where it might be impacting them, right? Okay, so the situation is there's two or three items that the caregiver says that they think they're developing, but the doctor doesn't see it. The doctor doesn't see it. They could score a point or two. But we're saying if you drop those out, it's still – it's fine in cognition. So our point would be that what we see in Phase I-II is we'd be consistent with or without caregiver input, right? Did that answer the question, Josh? Boy, we're getting deep on COAs, so let's go on to the next question.
Our next question is from Jack Allen with Baird. Your line is now live.
taking the questions and congrats on the progress um so i wanted to ask about what your expectations are as it relates to the sham uh performance in the aspire study i know there was a limited data set from angelman but are there any other surrogate neurodevelopmental indications that you've looked at as it relates to sham performance and then my other follow-up was on the profitability any comments you can make as it relates to um what you need as it relates to success from the gene therapy programs and Angelman that's baked in for assumptions for profitability? Do you account for those in the profitability guidance or is it just the current
Well, I'll let Howard deal with the profitability question, but let me deal with the sham performance. Well, obviously we would not expect sham to have an effect. And we haven't looked at all possible studies, but certainly in our own in Angelman and the control studies we've seen, we haven't seen much change. I would say to you that when you're talking about the performance of development. These kids are not going to have a placebo effect exactly, right? Because they're not thinking, hey, I'm getting a treatment. I should be better. They're not going to think this way. They're not developmentally changing. By not having caregiver input, which is maybe why the FDA doesn't want it, it allows there to be a more objective assessment of what's happening. So, we're really saying, could they get better on their own without anything happening? What we're saying is that the deletion patients just don't. So, we're pretty comfortable the sham forms will not be important. I don't know that there's other developmental disorders that are comparable, maybe Rett syndrome or other types like that, but at this point, we don't feel that the sham should be any different from a natural history, and the deletion patients are pretty stable in terms of their Bayley's cognition scoring. They do not change much, and we're talking about less than a point a year, so whether it's a randomist trial or even a natural history. So, at this point, we're comfortable with it, but I understand your point. Right now, we seem comfortable with it, and we have adequate power, even if there was a higher background signal. We should have adequate power to overcome that with the treatment effect we expect.
Jack, regarding profitability and launch success assumptions, right now, what we've said for Topline is that we assume continued double-digit growth from our current products, plus contribution from upcoming launches, which could include 111, 401, 102. We haven't said much more than that, but maybe what I can say is that it certainly doesn't require all of them to be successful for us to get the profitability, and we have different levers we can pull to make sure we can live up to our promise of 2027 path to profitability.
Great. Thanks so much for the call.
Our next question comes from Ben Burnett with Wells Fargo. Your line is now live.
Great. Thanks very much. I wanted to ask about the GTX-102 program, and great to hear about the long-term data. I think you mentioned there were 66 patients in the long-term extension. Could you comment on sort of the reasons for discontinuations?
And then I have a follow-up. Yeah, we can do that. It's actually been a little bit here, a little there, but it's mostly often in the beginning. Maybe you can comment on that, Eric, for then.
Yeah, so very consistently, it was all due to burden of study participation. I mean, we do need to remember that some of these patients live very far away from treatment sites, and it does become a burden for these families. So that was, across the board, the reason for dose discontation and study burden.
It sometimes happens kind of early, too, because some people realize they just couldn't do it.
So it wasn't safety-related. Okay. Thank you. And then the other question I just want to ask is just around Chris Vita. So I appreciate kind of the commentary you gave on the call just around some of the variability around sort of ordering patterns. But I guess the question is, is sort of what visibility do you have kind of going forward through the next couple of months? And sort of what gives you sort of the confidence and kind of the yearly guidance number for Crispita?
Yeah, I'll let Eric comment a little bit because Eric's very close to the team that's carrying on what's going on. But I think one other element of this is that every year we're going to have one other factor, which is the way the royalty is in the first part of the year, it's a little bit lower than it crosses the threshold and it goes up. So whatever revenue is coming, our percentage goes up as the year goes on, and that's why the quarterly revenue goes up as well. So it's just an ordering pattern thing, and there's going to be this continuous ramp up of our percent in the royalty stream. So it's just going to reset every year and crawl back up. But, Eric, what gives you confidence in CRISFIDA going forward in the North American territory?
Yeah, no, it's quite simple. We're very confident in the underlying demand that we continue to see with finding patients and patients wanting to get treated across our regions, which is why we reaffirmed our guidance. And consistent with prior years, we expect the same sawtooth pattern that we've seen previously with, you know, a lower Q1 and a rebound in Q2 and softer Q3 and a strong Q4. So we expect, you know, as we have in previous years to continue to deliver on our commitment to the street.
But, yeah, I think the thing that we would see in Q1, though, is, like, the star forms. What's the star? That's the demand you talked about, and continuations and so forth. So demand is strong, Chris Vita. It's a great product. People stay on it when they get on it, and they continue to grow it, and we're here to support them and do our own work where we're commercializing. But Chris Vita continues to grow and do well, And we just have to understand there's always this quarterly plan. It's going to happen almost the same every year. So we'll feel comfortable how the year will go. Thank you for the color.
Our next question comes from Yigal Nachamosis with Citigroup. Please, your line is now live.
Thanks for taking the question. I was curious about the long-term extension data. And you mentioned that you've seen the positive improvements in multiple domains, and patients are continuing to improve. I'm just wondering how you assess those metrics with respect to sufficient powering on the endpoint for the ASPIRE trial for the Bayley-4 cognition. Do those observations in the long-term extension study on development improvement give you confidence that the powering on the Bayley-4 is sufficient for the ASPIRE trial? And what would be the clinically meaningful delta that you'd want to see on Bayley-4?
yes you go thanks for the question i think look we i think eric just talked about hitting around 10 points let's say in the one year time frame so that's the part of the a and d cohort and the others together that has you know gotten to the one year mark so some people are at the three to five year mark what we're saying is that one year they're hitting a number which is pretty close to what we've been expecting the whole time that that size gives us shows we're radically powered and is well above the MID at one year. So we're feeling comfortable at that size. And by the way, most people that know that test are shocked at how much change there is because it usually doesn't move at all for most people who are experts, including Kim Goodspeed, who's our physician, who's a developmental specialist. He says you just don't see this thing move. So 10 points is a big number. What we're saying and where it put forth is that when you continue to follow these kids over the longer haul, they continue to go up in daily cognition, and so that kind of tells us that the patients are having a sustained benefit of the ASO on their function in their brain as they continue to gain ground. That, to me, is really important, and that's what the long-term is telling you. I think phase three, of course, is very important for getting filed approval, but what is the commercial potential of a product? I think the long-term safety and chronic treatment and continue to gain ground tells you this is a treatment that has the ability to help kids over long periods of time in the post-market setting. And so with Phase 3 in hand, being able to get to a commercial setting, I think this gives us more confidence of the potential of the drug to be a long-term benefit for patients with ancient syndrome.
Okay, thanks. And then one on UX-111, since the resubmission, have you had any other requests for information since the acceptance in April or any other inspection requirements post-acceptance of the BLA?
Yeah, we're having what I would call routine discussion with the agency. We normally don't discuss the details with those. We've had what I would call routine discussions on the BLA, and those continue. And at this point, we feel that business is normal moving forward. And we won't really comment in detail about it until something, a decision gets made. We're excited about the potential of that program and are planning for a launch, assuming we get approval. Thanks.
Our next question comes from Gavin Clark with Evercore. Your line is now live.
Hello, this is Ezion for Gavin. Thanks for taking our question. So two from us. One is for Angemin MDRI endpoint. So just a full clarification for the stat analysis. So what is the delta versus sham control is actually defined? Is the difference in the medium net response between the two arms or the difference in the proportion of the patients that are treating a net response in at least one domain? And secondly, we have a question about 106 in GND myopsy, which we saw recently got IND clearance. So, wondering what is the key difference between this new molecule versus the previous one that looks like also run through the same indication but failed in the phase 3. So, what are some key takeaways we can learn from that history study to inform the current trial design? Thank you.
Sure, thanks. So, for the MDRI, what you're looking at is net domain improvement. So each patient will have a number of domains that they hit, right? And we look at net domain improvement, comparing the distribution curve of the treated patients to the distribution curve of the control patients, right? So it's a net domain improvement. How many positive wins per patient do you see? And we've shown before that we had often two domains or more on average per patient around that in that range. But those domains can be variable. So that can be various combinations. There are some patients that had as many as four or five domains of improvement. So we'll look at those distribution curves for the net domains per patient. That's the statistical comparison. For genealogy, I've been involved in that program from the very beginning. It's a horrible muscle disease. We think maybe around 10,000 patients out there, and we think it's a very chronic and terrible disease. The original molecule of salic acid replacement didn't work as well because the salic acid just didn't penetrate. The new drug is a prodrug, one that we designed that has enhanced hydrovisory that helps target uptake into muscle and gets released and transported by a salic acid transporter. So it allows it to get taken up into the lysome and cleared across the lysomal membrane into the muscle. And that improved hydrovisicity mechanism will allow us to, in the animals or in dogs, to deliver large amounts of salic acid to the cells, substantially better than the other molecule, but many, many fold better. So we think the potency is just dramatically better, and that puts us in a better position to actually achieve the replacement therapy that's required. And we know from the prior work and particularly the biopsy work that these patients have an 85% depletion of salic acid in their muscle. This drug should take us back to complete replacement, if not above replacement levels of south gas. And so we have greater hope this can be an effective drug for genealogy. It's a program, I should point out, is funded through a venture philanthropy agreement with the patient group and who are very interested in the product moving forward. And we were able to do that even under our financial constraints with the fact that they were funding it. So they're funding us through the Phase II proof of concept, which is allowing this program to move forward at this point in time.
Our next question comes from Luca Izzet with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now live.
Yeah, thanks so much for taking my question. Congrats on the progress. Maybe Emil and Eric circling back on a couple of prior questions. What is your relative level of conviction on daily score cognition versus MDRI? It feels to me that during the call, you came across as incrementally more positive on MDRI versus Bayley-Store cognition? One, would that be fair? And two, if so, can you still amend the protocol to potentially reallocate more alpha to the MDRI versus the Bayley-Store cognition? Again, any call there, much appreciated. And then maybe super quickly on OI, I do not see anything in the press release or in the fair remarks, so should we assume that you have discontinued that program? Thanks so much.
We discontinued OI.
Oh, I see. Missed it. So, the EMDR-IA is a more powerful measure. It has five endpoints in it. They gain power from all those endpoints. It is a very powerful way. We've been promoting it. We used it in our MEP-SEBI program. It's just new for regulators. And so, at this point, in our agreeing with regulators, we've put 80% of the power into the daily four, which is actually where you need the power because there's a sort of smaller magnitude effect. I hits very strong statistical significance. So you don't really need more alpha-sign-named or I, even if you have higher confidence in it, because it's a tremendous amount of power in it. So I think what we've done is the appropriate proportion, and we don't really need to shift it more. We continue to do evaluations and discussion. We put a little bit in the release on this. We'll inform the street when we have a decision what we're doing, but we did not discontinue the program. It continues at the moment until we complete and get answers to key questions and make a determination.
Thanks so much.
Our last question comes from Raghuram Silvashi with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now live.
Thank you for taking our question. This is Ahmed Faram. I just have a question about the PDUFA dates coming up in the second half, 2026. can you frame the cadence of the commercial rollout and when to expect a meaningful revenue from both UX111 and DTX401? And then the second question is on the GTX1 or 2 in Angelman. You mentioned discontinuation rates due to non-safety burden. Are you preparing in any way to reduce discontinuation rates in a commercial setting or do you not foresee that
being an issue? Thank you. Sure. So, obviously, launch of gene therapy is complicated. The reimbursement part of it and so forth. We are not guiding on any revenue, what the revenue would be for this year, but we're certainly planning to move forward on getting launch together. I'm sure Eric could go through this in great detail. I'll just summarize for you, Eric, that there will be obviously various policies at launch we'll have to manage, but eventually we were talking to payers in appropriate meetings now to help lay pipe forward the planning process for that. But the reimbursement will be some of the process, and then we'll have to work through and get patients treated. So our expectation is that there will be some time from Purdue to date to be able to get things going. We're trying to work as hard to get it going within a few weeks and to see how we can get it going. We expect to have product available, and it's more a question of getting the commercial process going. But I think the team's been working aggressively and getting all the pieces in place it would take. And I've been participating with them on some of the payer meetings that look at what the plan is, what the policies were, and how to navigate the process to get the best outcome for patients. For discontinuation rates, we actually find the discation rate very limited, actually. It's a really small handful, and usually the treatment effect that patients start seeing is so meaningful that, you know, that's something that patients have been looking for their whole, patient families have been looking for their whole lives. So we don't expect a big discontinuation, right? But as we move forward in it, we will clearly need to manage the accessibility and convenience. And this may involve, you know, bringing in a device to help make lumbar punctures easier. But we're going to do our best to make sure this is as burdenless as possible. And I would say, too, that a randomized trial or any kind of clinical trial has way more burden than getting something clinically in terms of what you have to do. So I think the amount of tests and stuff is a lot, and I think for an ageman family, that was probably more of a factor. So at this point, based on what we've seen, we're not expecting discontinuation to be a big deal, but we are also going to do our best to take care of patients before there's an issue and give them the best patient experience we can in terms of a convenience for a treatment that involves an intrathecal delivery of an ASL.
Thank you.
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