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Earnings call · FY2026 Q3

RTX Corp (RTX) Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Concluded Oct 20, 2026 Audio replay
Oct 20, 2026 57:40 65 turns
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Operator

good day and welcome to the rtx third quarter 2026 earnings conference call my name is latif and i will be your operator for today as a reminder this conference is being recorded for replay purposes on the call today are chris callio chairman and chief executive officer neil mitchell chief financial officer and nathan weir vice president of investor relations This call is being webcast live on the internet and there is a presentation available for download from RTX website at www.rtx.com. Please note, except where otherwise noted, the company will speak to results from continuing operations excluding acquisition accounting adjustments and net non-recurring and or significant items, often referred to by management as other significant items. The company also reminds listeners that the earnings and cash flow expectations and any other forward-looking statements provided in this call are subject to risk and uncertainties. RTX SEC filings, including as forms 8K, 10Q, and 10K, provide details on important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in the full looking statements once the call becomes open for questions we ask that you limit your first round to one question per caller to give everyone the opportunity to participate to ask a question you will need to press star one one on your telephone you may ask further questions by reinserting yourself into the queue as time permits. With that, I will turn the call over to Mr. Calio.

Thank you and good morning, everyone. Our continued execution and operational focus enabled us to deliver another very strong quarter of results across RTX. On the top line, adjusted sales were $25 billion, up 12% organically with double-digit growth across commercial OE, commercial aftermarket, and defense. Adjusted EPS of $2.26 was up 56 cents, or 33% year-over-year, including 25 cents from IEPA cost recovery. And free cash flow was again strong at $2.1 billion. So overall, we're very pleased with the continued momentum in our operational performance across the company in Q3. We also continue to see robust global demand for our products and services, and are very well positioned to meet our growing customer needs across commercial aerospace and defense. RTX ended Q3 with another record backlog of $340 billion, up 36% year-over-year and 18% sequentially. On the defense side, we booked nearly $59 billion of awards with a book-to-bill of 4.57, driven by approximately $23 billion for Tomahawk and over $14 billion for AMRAAM as we converted those framework agreements into multi-year production contracts at Raytheon. And earlier this month, we also signed multi-year contracts for SM6 and SM31B. We're very pleased with our collaboration with the Department of War on these contracts, which reinforced the need for our highly capable and proven systems, and they will be a significant revenue driver for Raytheon over the next decade. Neil will provide some more details in a few minutes. On the commercial side, we received over $22 billion of new orders in the quarter, representing over 60% year-over-year growth across both OE and aftermarket. Most notably, Pratt announced significant GTF engine orders and commitments, including British Airways' selection of the GTF to power up to 63 aircraft, adding another new GTF operator to its expanding fleet. So far this year, we've received over 800 GTF orders and commitments and have a backlog of over 8,000 engines. And commercial orders at Collins were up over 20% year-over-year, driven by the growing installed base and breadth of its content offerings. So another strong quarter of awards across the company. Okay, let me shift to the current operating environment as we look to close out the year. In commercial aerospace, we continue to see positive trends with increasing OE production rates on key platforms, which is growing our installed base. For example, Collins' commercial installed base and Pratt's narrow-body powered fleet have grown mid-single digits year over year. In Q3, commercial aftermarket also remained resilient, with 16% organic growth despite global RPKs declining slightly year over year. Our MRO demand continued to be strong, and engine retirements were in line with our expectations. Additionally, we continue to see strength across business aviation, with global business jet departures up year-to-date. And as a reminder, about 60% of the Pratt-Canada fleet has not yet seen a first shop visit. On the defense side, we remain exceptionally well-positioned to meet growing demand given our proven capabilities, regional partnerships, and ability to produce at scale. In the U.S., we're encouraged by the broad support for defense spending, including the need to expand munitions depth and integrated air and missile defense capabilities. And our ongoing discussions with the Department of War give us further confidence that our key programs will remain funding priorities. Internationally, demand is also rising with defense budgets expected to grow across the European, Asia-Pacific, and MENA regions next year, including significant spending by Germany, Poland, and Japan. Across these regions, we have partnerships with local companies and suppliers that help support the production of key systems, including Patriot, Gemt, Standard Missile, Coyote, and military engines. In Europe, for example, we have over 130 different suppliers that support our production work in that region. And while the U.S. government is currently operating under a continuing resolution, our record backlog provides clear visibility to our sales expectations in the fourth quarter and throughout next year, so our focus remains squarely on execution. Overall, based on our performance to date, we're again raising our full-year outlook for adjusted sales, EPS, and free cash flow. Neil will take you through the details of the third quarter and our updated outlook in a few minutes. But first, let me provide an update on our strategic priorities on slide four. I'll start with operational execution. We continue to leverage our core operating system to drive output and productivity across the company. At Pratt, we're making progress across key GTF initiatives. On the GTF fleet management plan, the financial and technical outlook remains on track. PW1100 MRO output was up over 35% year-over-year in the quarter. It is up over 30% year-to-date. Sequentially, AOGs were relatively stable as this MRO output largely offset the expected engine removals from the seasonally high utilization of the fleet during the summer months. We continue to expect AOG reductions in Q4. We're also pleased that the first GTF Advantage-powered aircraft was delivered to United Airlines and entered into service earlier this month. As a reminder, the Advantage will double the time on wing performance, and we expect the production ramp to continue next year. We're also progressing certification of the hot section plus upgrade package that will bring 90 to 95 percent of the advantage time on wing benefit back to the installed base, and we will start incorporating this package into MRO visits early next year. Shifting to Collins, we're advancing structural cost actions to support further margin expansion. This includes consolidating operations, increasing manufacturing hours at best cost locations, and reducing overhead layers. Enabled by these actions, Collins has delivered double-digit organic sales growth this year while reducing indirect labor headcount. And at Raytheon, we're increasing munitions output as we improve material flow across the supply chain and drive productivity in our operations. Year to date, output across our critical munitions is up over 90% year over year, with material receipts at Raytheon up double digits over the same period. Across RTX, we're also deploying AI and digital tools to improve speed and decision-making in our operations. For example, through a recent acquisition, Pratt is integrating AI-powered engine inspection software to accelerate boroscope analytics. Already in use on legacy programs, this capability is being implemented across our MRO networks and has reduced overall inspection time by more than 30% where it's been deployed. Next is innovation and future growth. In Q3, we invested $2.8 billion in company and customer-funded research and development and CapEx to advance our technology roadmap and expand capacity. On the technology front, we're innovating to meet our customers' evolving needs. We're continuing to develop products with AI and machine learning capabilities. For example, Collins is leveraging AI and certain products to assist air traffic controllers and making faster and smarter decisions. And Raytheon has sensors deployed in the field that are using AI to identify objects and classify threats. Also in the quarter, Collins completed altitude testing of its next-generation enhanced power and cooling system, known as EPACS. EPACS delivers a significant increase in cooling capacity across critical aircraft systems and is being offered to support technology upgrades on the F-35. It can also be used on other future defense and commercial aircraft platforms. And Raytheon is progressing its composable weapons strategy to address the evolving needs of our customers. This construct uses proven technologies from across our product portfolio as building blocks to develop new solutions that we can field at a faster scale. For example, we're developing a new effector where we're taking the rocket motor and steering control from one production program and combining it with the seeker from another program to cost-effectively meet a specific mission requirement on an accelerated timeline. On the capacity front, we continue to invest to support higher output levels. In the quarter, Raytheon completed a $50 million expansion of its manufacturing facility in Forest, Mississippi. This investment will support production ramps for the Next Generation Jammer program and other radar systems. And in connection with the munitions contracts that I mentioned earlier, we're making incremental investments in our supply chain and operations to ramp capacity and support significantly higher production rates. On the commercial side, Collins announced a new partnership with Etihad Engineering to expand MRO services in the Middle East. This agreement will double Collins' footprint for nacelle services in the region and support growing A350 and 787 fleets. And Pratt announced an expansion of precision parts manufacturing in Poland. This investment will increase capacity of complex component assembly for both commercial and military engines, including the GTF and F-135. And so we're pleased to see that our disciplined focus on our strategic priorities is delivering operational improvement and new capabilities for our customers. Finally, I want to acknowledge the leadership update we announced last month. As you saw, Shane Eddy has decided to retire from the company after more than 40 years in the aerospace and defense industry. Shane's been a great partner and teammate, and I want to thank him for his leadership at Pratt. We're fortunate to have a very strong bench and are excited that Jill Albertelli is taking over as the president of Pratt & Whitney. Jill is currently the president of Military Engines and brings over three decades of experience across Pratt. Okay, with that, I'll hand it over to Neil to take you through the third quarter results and our updated outlook in more detail.

Neil? All right, thanks, Chris. I'm on slide five. In the third quarter, adjusted sales of $25 billion were up 11% year-over-year on an adjusted basis and 12% organically. This strong top-line organic growth was driven by all three channels, with commercial OE up 10%, commercial aftermarket up 16%, and defense up 10%. Adjusted segment operating profit of $3.9 billion was up 39% year-over-year, driven by drop-through on higher sales volume across the company, improved productivity at Raytheon, and IEPA cost recovery. Segment margins expanded 310 basis points year-over-year, including the benefit of approximately 160 basis points from IEPA. Adjusted earnings per share of $2.26 was up 33% from the prior year, driven by about $0.43 of operational segment profit growth and approximately $0.25 of IEPA recovery. This growth more than offset roughly $0.12 of below-the-line items, primarily from an expected higher tax rate and lower pension income. On a GAAP basis, earnings per share from continuing operations was $1.89 and included $0.26 of acquisition accounting adjustments and $0.11 of restructuring and all other non-recurring Free cash flow in the quarter was $2.1 billion and included approximately $165 million of powdered metal-related compensation and approximately $300 million of IEPA recovery. As Chris mentioned, we converted four Munition Framework Agreements into undefinitized contracts. Over the next several years, Raytheon will be focused on ramping the supply chain, our operations, and capacity to meet the associated production requirements. As a reminder, these contracts include a funding approach that will essentially preserve upfront free cash flow. We'll be making CapEx and other investments on these contracts over the next two to three years and will recognize revenue as costs are charged to the programs therefore we expect to see sales and profit contributions over the next several years as we capacitize and then ramp to achieve full rate production over the multi-year terms of each contract and over time these contracts have the potential to support margin expansion at raytheon as we scale production so overall we delivered strong financial performance across rtx and we're pleased with significant growth in our backlog. Let's turn to slide 6 and I'll take you through our updated outlook for the full year. Given our performance to date, as well as the IEPA recovery, we are increasing our full year outlook. On the top line, we're raising our full year adjusted sales outlook by $2 billion on the low end and $1.5 billion on the high end to a new range of $97 to $97.5 billion, up from our prior range of 95 to 96 billion. The sales increase is driven by continued defense performance, commercial OE strength at Collins, and higher GTF aftermarket volume at Pratt. This translates to full-year RTX organic sales growth of between 10 and 11 percent, up from our prior range of between 8 and 9 percent. By channel, we now expect commercial OE sales to grow high single digits, which is at the higher end of our prior expectation of mid to high single digits, driven by the production ramp at Collins. Within commercial aftermarket, we now expect sales to grow low double digits to low teens across the company, which is up from our prior expectation of low double digits, driven by higher GTF aftermarket volume. And for defense sales, we now expect low double-digit growth up from our prior range of high single digits, primarily driven by the performance at Raytheon. On the bottom line, we are increasing our outlook for adjusted earnings per share by $0.55 on the low end and $0.50 on the high end. We now see adjusted EPS between $7.65 and $7.75 for the full year, up from our prior range of $7.10 to $7.25. At the midpoint of our updated outlook, this increase is primarily driven by approximately 28 cents of performance across the company and approximately 25 cents of iepah recovery we've included the updated outlook for the associated below the line items in the appendix of our webcast finally we now expect free cash flow to be between nine and 9.2 billion for the full year up from our prior range of eight and a half to eight point seven five billion driven primarily by EPA recovery. As we look beyond this year, based on the fundamentals of our company, our record backlog position, and operating momentum, we expect another year of top and bottom line growth, improving operational margins, and strong free cash flow generation. And as we do every year, we'll be back on our fourth quarter call in January with our detailed outlook for 2027. With that, I'll hand it over to Nathan to take you through the segments in more detail.

Nathan Ware Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Neil. Starting with Collins on slide 7, sales were $8.4 billion in the quarter, up 10% on an adjusted basis and 12% organically, driven by strength across all channels. Excluding divestitures, commercial OE sales were up 23%, driven by higher volume on narrow-body and wide-body platforms. Commercial aftermarket sales were up 9%, driven by an 18% increase in mods and upgrades, a 12% increase in provisioning, and a 7% increase in parts and repair. Defense sales were up 7% versus the prior year, driven by higher volume across multiple programs. Adjusted operating profit of $1.8 billion was up $594 million versus the prior year, driven by drop-through on higher commercial volume, commercial mix, and approximately $250 million of IEPA recovery. In the quarter, Collins expanded margins by 560 basis points year over year, including the benefit of structural cost actions and 300 basis points of IEPA recovery. Turning to Collins' full year outlook, based on year-to-date commercial OE performance, we now expect sales to grow high single digits on an adjusted basis versus our prior range of mid to high single digits. Organically, we now expect low double-digit growth versus our prior range of high single digits to low double digits. With respect to operating profit, we now expect growth between $925 and $975 million versus 2025, up from our prior expectation of between $550 and $625 million, driven by the drop through an increased sales volume, ongoing structural cost reduction initiatives, and approximately $250 million of IEPA recovery. Shifting to Pratt & Whitney on slide 8, sales of $9.2 billion were up 10% on an adjusted and organic basis, driven by strength in commercial aftermarket. Commercial OE sales were down 5%, driven by large commercial engine mix. Commercial aftermarket sales were up 21%, driven by higher MRO volume, primarily GTF. In military engines, sales were up 2%, driven by higher volume across multiple programs, partially offset by the prior year benefit from F-135 contract award timing. Adjusted operating profit of $968 million was up $217 million versus the prior year, driven by drop-through on higher commercial aftermarket volume and approximately $160 million of IEPA recovery. This was partially offset by large commercial OE engine mix, commercial aftermarket mix, and higher SG&A expense. In the quarter, Pratt's margins of 10.5% included 170 basis points of IEPA recovery. Turning to Pratt's full year outlook, we continue to expect sales to grow high single digits on both an adjusted and organic basis, most likely towards the top half of this range given the strength in commercial aftermarket. With respect to operating profit, we now expect growth between $475 and $525 million versus 2025, up from our prior expectation of between $275 and $350 million, driven by the drop-through on increased sales volume and approximately $170 million of IEPA recovery. Turning to Raytheon on slide 9, sales of $8 billion in the quarter were up 14% on both an adjusted and organic basis, driven by higher volume on naval programs and land and air defense systems, including Patriot, Standard Missile, and Tomahawk. Adjusted operating profit of $1.1 billion was up $275 million versus the prior year, driven by improved productivity, higher volume, and favorable mix, including Patriot programs. Net productivity improved $104 million year-over-year and included approximately $85 million of benefits in the quarter associated with an international contract modification and a favorable adjustment related to an offset obligation. In the quarter, Raytheon expanded margins by 190 basis points year-over-year. Bookings in the quarter were $52.3 billion, resulting in a book-to-bill of $6.54 and a backlog of $130 billion. On a rolling 12-month basis, Raytheon's book-to-bill is $2.9. In addition to the munitions contracts that Chris mentioned earlier, other key awards in the quarter included $3.1 billion to provide training systems for the British Army, $3 billion of classified awards, and $1.8 billion for SPI-6 production. Turning to Raytheon's full-year outlook, we now expect sales to grow low teens on both an adjusted and organic basis. This is up from our prior range of high single digits to low double digits due to the strength Neil mentioned. And we now expect operating profit to grow between $800 and $850 million versus 2025, up from our prior expectation of between $575 and $650 million, driven by the drop-through on increased sales volume, improved productivity, and favorable program mix. With that, I'll hand it back over to Chris for some closing remarks.

Okay, thanks, Nathan. We delivered another strong quarter of results and are confident in our updated four-year outlook, reflecting the continued execution across the company. And I want to thank all of our employees for their dedication to our mission. RTX is exceptionally well-positioned across commercial aerospace and defense, with our leading franchises, growing installed base, and record backlog. We remain focused on executing on our commitments, investing in the right technologies and capacity, and leveraging our breadth and scale to drive top and bottom line growth this year and beyond. With that, let's open it up for questions.

Operator

In the interest of time and to allow for broader participation, you are asked to limit yourself to one question. To ask a question, you will need to press star 11 in your telephone. Our first question comes from the line of Sheila Cahiaglou of Jefferies. Your question, please, Sheila.

Sheila Cahiaglu Analyst — Jefferies

Good morning, Chris, Neil, and Nathan. Good morning, Sheila. Good morning, guys. So quarter up 14% organically, margins 14% was a standout as well. Obviously, some one-timers in that margin number. But, you know, as we think about where you are today and the continuous margin improvement, Can you talk about specifically Raytheon and where we are on the missiles and munitions ramp as there are a number of additional UFAs in hand now? And how do you think about the volume and margin opportunity as that begins to feather in in 26 and thereafter?

Yeah, thanks, Sheila. You know, as you noted, we're pretty pleased with Raytheon's organic sales growth here in the quarter, and even more so with the execution that underpinned it. You know, output across our critical munitions was up over 90 percent, and we're seeing output growth across other critical munitions programs as well. So very happy with the operational performance the team is showing to ramp, given the needs that are out there in the market. With respect to the conversion of the framework agreements to the UCAS, again, a lot of hard work went into that, a lot of collaboration with the Department of War. You know, that's all in about $70 billion in combined value that provides Raytheon almost a decade of demand visibility. Obviously critical, not only for us, but for our supply chain as we seek to take these rates up anywhere from two to four X. And, you know, these are binding contracts. They've got robust terms, including price, delivery schedules, and the like. And so now we've shifted into the execution phase, lining up the supply chain, putting up POs for tooling and test equipment, all the things we need to do to make that rate. And we've also been working really closely with the department on all the actions necessary to accelerate the production. You know, streamlining test requirements, improving producibility where we can, addressing obsolescence, qualifying new suppliers. You know, in 2025 alone, Raytheon added 150 new suppliers. We've got to get that supply base as strong as we possibly can. And so right now, it's about just removing any and all bottlenecks so we can get to these higher rates. In terms of how this sort of feathers in, we're going to execute these contracts over the next, say, 7 to 10 years. And as Neil noted up front, we're going to account for these like other defense programs. Revenue will be on a cost-to-cost basis. And as we scale production and continue to drive the efficiencies given the volumes here and given the visibility we've given the supply chain, we think these contracts have the potential to support margin expansion, you know, at Raytheon, you know, above and beyond where they are today.

Sheila Cahiaglu Analyst — Jefferies

Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Arment-Up-Baird. Please go ahead, Peter.

Hey, thanks. Morning, Chris and Neil. Nice results. Morning. Thank you, Chris. Hey, probably a question for both of you, but Chris, thinking about supporting all this growth tied to the framework deals and the aero ramp, but how are you thinking about like cash conversion, you had a strong raise for 26. Any puts and takes, you know, that we should be thinking about going forward from here just regarding either framework CapEx or advances, any color here would be helpful. Thanks.

Yeah, I'll start and certainly ask Neil to pile in as well, Peter. Again, if you just look at the fundamentals of this business, you know, they're pretty strong, robust demand, large installed base. So again, we think this supports our business being able to generate that 90 to 100% of free cash flow to adjusted net income. We've been pretty consistent in saying that. And there will be investments associated with the UCAS and the demand that we're seeing, but they incorporate a collaborative funding approach to help with some of the upfront free cash flow. So again, for us right now, It's all about focusing on meeting this demand. We've got a $340 billion backlog. We've got to make sure that we've got the supply chain where it needs to be and the capacity, not only in our own shops, but again, with some of these key suppliers. And so that's where the focus is going to be.

Yeah, Chris, maybe I'll add a couple of thoughts on some of the things that we've incurred in 26 and how they might play out as we start to turn the corner and look at 27. Not going to give a 27 outlook today for free cash flow, but as I sit back and think about the underpinning of the drivers, the first thing is we've obviously been tailing down on the powdered metal payments, so expect that to be probably about a $500 million tailwind as we head into 2027. You heard us talk this morning about the IEPA refunds, so we had about $300 million in cash come in in the third quarter. There's another $50 million that will come in in the fourth quarter, and then that will be largely behind us. So that will turn into a bit of a headwind. I'm thinking there's probably about $100 million, a pension headwind as well. So all of that sort of nets to about zero. So you step back and you think about the underlying drivers of the business. Chris just talked about how the frameworks will play out, largely a cash-neutral event as we head into 27. So then it comes down to segment operating profit growth, which we're expecting to see. We're going to have operational expansion of the margins, so excluding the benefit that we just talked about from IEPA will still grow our margins. And we're going to keep an eye on the need for probably a little bit higher working capital as we continue to support, you know, strong levels of organic sales growth. You saw, you know, we took our guidance up today, added two points of organic growth this year. You know, we've seen some working capital draw, still seeing increased turns on inventory and working capital, but as we kind of position ourselves for the continued growth and delivering this $340 billion of backlog, I could see a little bit of headwind there. But all in all, expect cash flow to be up next year, you know, really well positioned, about 70% of the way to our 2026 goal so far, and still some work to do here in the fourth quarter, but feel good about where we sit today. Thank you.

Appreciate the call. Appreciate the call.

You bet.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rob Stallard of Vertical Research. Please go ahead, Rob. Thanks so much.

Good morning, Rob.

Robert Stallard Analyst — Vertical Research

Chris, it's probably wonderful for you. Obviously, the airlines are struggling with a higher cost of fuel at the moment. We've seen some of them pulling down their flight activity plans for the fourth quarter. So I was wondering if you're seeing any change in behavior from your airline customers as a result of these challenges they're going through.

Yeah, thanks, Rob. You know, you're right. We're closely engaging with the airlines and doing bottoms-up sort of fleet planning and understanding kind of where their head is in 2027, the impact of the cost headwinds that you just mentioned, looking obviously at the consumer and the consumer health. But what we've seen is what you saw in our numbers here in Q3, which has been resilient demand and a resilient consumer. I mean, we had 16% organic growth in commercial aftermarket in Q3. Our GTF PW11 output was up significantly, 35% year over year, and that demand is going to continue into next year and grow. Content has continued to be strong on the V2500. And then as you heard Nathan say up front, you know, Collins had continued organic growth across all three channels with mods and upgrades and provisioning both up double digits. And we're also seeing, again, retirements that have been relatively low and in line with our expectations. So as we sit here today, Rob, demand has continued to be resilient. We think it's durable. and again we're going to watch all the other things you know that everyone else is watching as we're kind of head into 27 on jet fuel and the other cost headwinds but if you just step back for a minute and just kind of let your mind linger past some of these near-term issues i mean there are really strong fundamentals that underpin our aftermarket growth i mean there's the auto warranty flight hours there's pricing there's a growing installed base so we feel very good medium long term about our commercial aftermarket positioning thanks chris Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Christine Lewa of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open, Christine.

Christine Lewag Analyst — Morgan Stanley

Hey, good morning, everyone. You know, maybe, Neil, you talked about with the munition contract that you've received with that $770 billion in multiyear contracts, you're seeing production rates increasing 2 to 4x over time. But, you know, these are just from the contracts that have converted into firm orders. But you've also got multiple framework agreements that have yet to convert to orders. When we think about the opportunity set that's ahead, including what you already got, how should we think about the cadence of revenue and earnings contribution on an annual basis? Like, when does this start to peak? Is this really more of an acceleration in 28 and beyond? Could we see some of this in 27? I know you don't want to give 27 guidance yet, but just help us understand how we should think about the cadence of revenue and growth.

Sure. Thank you for the question, Christine. Good morning. So, you know, obviously there are a few variables here, the most important of which is, you know, how the defense budgets play out in the coming months. But, you know, nonetheless, we're very confident in the demand and need for these important munitions. So as you pointed out, we got two of the frameworks converted to undefinitized contracts in the third quarter. We had two more that came here in the fourth quarter, so those will be included in our fourth quarter bookings. And, you know, we've booked a little bit of revenue on this here in 26, and we certainly do expect some of that to, you know, ramp up in 27 as we begin to facilitize. But I think importantly, before I even, you know, get further on that, we got this enormous backlog to deliver. And so as I look at Raytheon's, you know, 2027 and beyond outlook, it shows very strong top-line growth opportunity in its base backlog, and then you put this on top of it as well. And so we'll get into the specifics, as you pointed out today, but certainly I see this as, you know, starting to ramp, you know, over the next two years in earnest and really continuing through 2030 when we get into full rate production for the suite of munitions that we'll be providing.

Christine Lewag Analyst — Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you.

Christine Lewag Analyst — Morgan Stanley

You're welcome.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Miles Walton of Wolf Research. Please go ahead, Miles. Thanks. Good morning.

Miles Walton Analyst — Wolf Research, LLC

Looking at the margin performance of Collins, excluding the EPA, you're nicely ahead of 18%. The implied poor key margins come back down to at or below where you were in the first half. I'm curious, you talked about the cost savings initiatives having impact. How sustainable are those? And maybe what should we be thinking about?

Miles? We lost you there, Miles. But from what we did here, you were asking. Yeah, we'll guess the question. We'll reframe the question as we like it. No, we heard the question on Collins. There you go.

Miles Walton Analyst — Wolf Research, LLC

There you go. Go ahead. We hear you now. Great. So I was just looking at the margin performance at Collins. Excluding IEPA, you're nicely above 18% in the quarter. It looks like 4Q margin implied. You dropped back to mid-16. I'm just curious, was there anything special about the quarter, which is interesting because you had very high OE rates? And then maybe make a comment of the opportunity for expansion into 27 that, Neil, I think you alluded to, expansion across the business.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, obviously, we're really pleased with where Colin's operational margins were in the third quarter. And there really was nothing I would call out that was particularly unusual about the third quarter. So it's good to see the traction that they're getting. Everything we've been talking about for the last five years, frankly, about higher OE production, getting good absorption, the aftermarket drop through, the increased content on the installed base is coming to fruition. And we got good defense performance as well at really good margins. So the third quarter was strong and very clean. As we walk to the fourth quarter, you're right, we see a little bit of pullback on the margins. And what I'll tell you there is there's a couple things. First, obviously, we won't have the IEPA refunds repeat for Collins. That's all behind us here in the third quarter. We are investing in that business. It's really important for us to make sure that we're prepared for next generation technology. And so we'll see a little bit higher research and development in the fourth quarter, as we usually do, but it's ramping a bit. We're also increasing our digital spend there. That's a key element of the transformation that Collins is going through in terms of their reducing complexity, automating back office functions, et cetera. So that comes into play here in the fourth quarter. We do see a little bit higher OE volume in the fourth quarter, probably gives us about 40 basis points of margin Headwind and a few other timing items. But fundamentally, the Collins margins remain really strong, and we expect the operational margins to continue to expand into 27. And we'll talk more about that, obviously, in January.

Maybe just, Miles, to hit on one part of your question on sort of the sustainability on the structural cost reduction. I would tell you, and Collins would tell you, that we're in the relatively early stages of that, and we've continued to see some really good progress there. You heard Neil talk about some of those initiatives. It's consolidating operations, increasing cost at best cost locations, really attacking the overhead layers. And you saw sort of the indirect headcount reduction that we referenced in our remarks. So these actions are going to continue to compound over time and provide some nice tailwind to Collins margins.

Operator

Thank you.

Ron Epstein Analyst — Bank of America

You're welcome. our next question comes from the line of ron epstein of bank of america please go ahead ron hey good morning guys um morning ron maybe just a quick follow-on here to a couple questions that were asked um on the yukas if they're not in that size how are you hope they will be right political winds change and all that sort of stuff you guys protected can you talk about that a little little bit.

Absolutely, Ron. And I won't get into the detailed terms, but what I will say is that we are protected if there are changes in the budgetary environment and changes in volumes. That was a critical part of our discussions. We want to move out quickly and get to these rates. The department understood that, but was also cognizant of the fact that things could change in this budget environment and that we've got, you know, the protections, you know, we need to feel good about moving out on these investments. I will say, though, Ron, even with the sort of the budget risk that sort of sits out there, I do believe that our critical munitions will be prioritized, no matter how the machinations ultimately shake out between is there going to be a reconciliation, what's in the base. I think these yukas are a testament to how critical these munitions programs are, and that they will continue to be prioritized as we go through the budget process. So, again, feel confident that we'll see these go through, but protected, you know, on the downside, just in case.

Ron Epstein Analyst — Bank of America

And then, if I may, when we were walking around the USA, one thing came up pretty much in every meeting we did. Nobody can get printed circuit circuit boards, and then people were having problems getting capacitors and resistors and this and that. So as you think about these ramps and just real fundamental components that are in short supply, some of it largely because of what's going on in the AI build-out, how are you guys thinking about that, right? Because you've got this big sucking sound coming from a whole other side of industrials that's absorbing a lot of parts that you guys would normally use.

Yeah, absolutely, Ron. And you're hitting on the single biggest enabling factor in getting to these enhanced rates, the 2 to 4X that I mentioned before. It's absolutely going to take a change in how we do things with our supply chain. You heard me mention up front some of the things we're doing differently in collaboration with the department in terms of streamlining test requirements, things that sit, generally speaking, within the department's peer purview. how do we be more efficient in how we do testing? How do we look at our requirements and really interrogate them to make sure that everything is absolutely necessary? And then how do we work with them to bring additional suppliers into the defense industrial base? I mean, you're right. There are certain pieces that we are competing with other industries. You mentioned the AI build-out. I mean, keep in mind, we're looking for a little bit different things than some of those folks, but working with the government to make sure that the folks that are producing the things that we need are prioritizing us, and we're not going to be left behind by virtue of AI build-out or other things. I'll put critical minerals in that same category. These are things that are going to be important for both the commercial and defense, and we've been working those for a long time. And the department's helped there as well in terms of helping us secure long-term supply to make sure that we've got what we need for 27 and beyond. So I'll just tell you that the supply chain focus is acute and is where we're putting a lot of our energy, focus, and investment.

Ron Epstein Analyst — Bank of America

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Seth Siefman of J.P. Morgan. Your line is open, Seth.

Seth Siefman Analyst — J.P. Morgan

Thanks very much, and good morning, everyone.

Operator

Good morning, Seth.

Seth Siefman Analyst — J.P. Morgan

Chris, I wanted to ask, when you think about the NDAA this year and the right to repair provisions that are in there, and, you know, you guys have a big defense portfolio, not just in Raytheon, but also in Pratt and Collins, you know, how do you think about the potential impact of that on the company?

Yeah, thanks, Seth. I won't speculate too, too much right now, as I know that that legislative process is ongoing. And as you noted, the 27 budget isn't final. You know, again, we want to be supportive of our customers and their sustainment needs. But we're also going to need the kinds of protections around IP and protections around the investments, you know, that we've made. and to make sure that, you know, we can balance those needs and the lifecycle ownership needs of the customer. So, again, I think ultimately, you know, we'll get to the right place on this, and we'll see how it shakes out.

Seth Siefman Analyst — J.P. Morgan

Very good. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Duschler of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open, Scott.

Scott Duschl Analyst — Deutsche Bank

Hi, good morning. Neil, can you characterize where Pratt and Wendy's free cash flow conversion is today relative to its after-tax earnings and how you expect that to trend over the next few years? Thank you.

Good morning, Scott. Thank you. Yeah, listen, as I look at Pratt, first of all, it's generating, you know, substantial cash flow in 26. It has been every year since the trough of COVID, so it's a very productive and cashflow positive entity. Keep in mind, you know, about half of it is commercial engines, a quarter of it is military, a quarter of it is Pratt Canada. What's great about, you know, as we look forward, as you all know, we've made substantial investments in expanding our MRO capacity, getting our, you know, facilities put together for assembly of GTF engines. We expect that to, you know, continue as we continue to increase our volumes. But on the GTF aftermarket, we've been doing a number of overhauls that are pay at shop visit. And those full interval shop visits are coming due here this year and into the next several years. And each of those shop visits brings with it cash payments. So Pratt will be, a tailwind to RTX's free cash flow over the next three years. I'm not going to put a number on it today, but you've heard the kind of growth rates we've demonstrated over the last two years in the MRO output. We expect strong, call it low double digit increases in shop visits as we go into 27 and beyond. And so with that will come the cash flow that we expect to return the investment on the GTF. Can you say what percent of GTF shop visits are pay at overhaul? So, you know, we've talked about the contracting landscape before, and about 80% of the, you know, contracts for the GTF program are under a long-term contract. And I would say, you know, the vast majority of them are a pay at shop visit contract. And so, you know, the good news is, as you've looked at the results of RTX and Pratt, a key part of that over the last few years, we have generated substantial free cash flow. And we have at the same time made substantial investments in overhauls over the last few years.

Seth Siefman Analyst — J.P. Morgan

And so the contract asset has grown at Pratt, but over the next, you know, three to five years, we'll start to see that come down and generate, you know, tailwinds for the business. thank you thank you thank you our next question comes from the line of John Godden of Citigroup please go ahead John hey guys um thanks for taking my question I was hoping we could just stay on Pratt for a bit and maybe revisit margins obviously modeling Pratt margins is a lot of moving parts you had the IEPA I'm just curious how you guys self-assess performance recently um and and when we look out to a world where aftermarket trends stay strong, as you described, AOGs are declining, how should we think about the shape of a margin breakout eventually? Any additional color would be helpful.

I'll start, John, and then I'll ask Neil to chime in. Look, when you think about Pratt and Pratt's margin expansion and performance, it does center around the GTF. You heard us talk earlier today about the MRO performance on the 1100, up 37% year-over-year. You know, turnaround time, you know, has come down, and that's with heavier shop visits. So, you know, really strong performance from an MRO perspective, which will help drive AOGs down here in the fourth quarter. And then it's really shifting, you know, to the GTS Advantage and HS Plus. Those are going to be the two, you know, main thrusts behind, you know, margin expansion in our large commercial engine, you know, business. GTFA is in production today. As you know, we talked about its EIS with United earlier, so we're very pleased about that. We're taking a disciplined approach to that production cutover. You know, this configuration will get cut in over a period of several years to manage the risk. There's a large proportion of the bill of material that's common, but there's some that's unique. We want to make sure those are up at the right rates as we cut that in. And then on HopSection Plus, which, as you know, is effectively the derivative of the GTF advantage, you get 90% to 95% of the durability benefits in a kit. We're working with Airbus and regulators to finalize certification, and we anticipate it's going to be installed into MRO early next year. And we also expect that cut-in to be more aggressive and faster than the one I just described on the GTF, you know, advantage. So, again, it's really going to come down to continuing on the MRO output on GTF and then the cut-over on GTF advantage and then the cut-over on HS Plus and our GTF shop visits.

Chris, the only thing I would add, maybe just put some numbers around what we're talking about here. We've talked about Pratt being entitled to low to mid-teens margins over the longer term. And when I look at the performance of the business and the mix of installs and spare engines, the growing GTF aftermarket, the continued steady V2500 shop visit outlook that we have for the next several years, all of those things contribute to margin growth year over year through the next five years. It's going to be a gradual growth, but importantly, as I just talked about a few minutes ago, it will come with significant cash flow tailwind as well as we convert these shop visits to paying shop visits. So the formula for margin expansion is in place. We've got good traction on the aftermarket, on the pricing, and I think that the team is focused on the right things. APRAT would need to drive that growth over the next several years. Thanks a lot guys. You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Mekas of Milius. Your line is open, Scott.

Scott Mekas Analyst — Milius

Chris, the company is generating a lot of free cash flow and there's some sensitivity around stock buybacks for defense contractors. But earlier this year, we saw Northrop file to have its consent decree related to orbital APK acquisition, either waived or modified. The administration allows that to go through. Would you look at acquiring a solid rocket motor supplier to help you with the ramp on missiles?

Yeah, thanks. Appreciate it, Scott. Again, I think when we look at our supply chain, we're looking at all our possible constraints. We see constraints, as I mentioned earlier, in castings, and we're investing in our own Asheville facility there. We see constraints in Rocket Motors, as you noted. I talked earlier about critical minerals. So we're always looking at whether or not we deploy capital to bring additional sources of supply in, in terms of qualifying new suppliers. And we're also always looking at places to deploy capital to bring certain suppliers in-house if we feel like it's a major bottleneck. On Rocket Motors in particular, I will tell you we're expanding the supply base and entering into partnerships with other solid rocket motor suppliers because I think that's just an area that we're just – you're never going to have enough suppliers there. I think the demand is going to be incredibly high, and we need to continue to spread that risk across a number of suppliers, which is why you've seen some of our announcements that we've made in terms of our partnerships with other rocket motor suppliers. So again, just stepping back, we're always looking at ways to shore up our supply chain. No immediate plans on Rocket Motors. Again, that's more of a partnership strategy, but always looking for ways to strengthen the base. Got it. Thank you.

Operator

We'll go to the next question, which comes from the line of Goldson, Connor, of TD Cohen. Goldson, your line is open.

Goldson Connor Analyst — TD Cohen

Yeah, good morning, guys. I was wondering if you could characterize Raytheon's foreign backlog given all the orders on the U.S. side this quarter, and then also if you could talk a little bit about do the missile framework agreements, because they're for mature programs, do the profit rates on those approximate that of the foreign backlog? Should we view it as a substantial mixed tailwind over time. Thank you.

On the last part of your question, as I said earlier, as we continue to move into the production phase and we start to see the efficiencies come from the higher volumes and from our supply base, again, we think that these can support margin expansion at Raytheon. On the international side, again, continues to be a very strong portion of the Raytheon backlog. You know, our international bookings at Raytheon are up two and a half times year to date on a year over year basis. So that international demand continues to be very, very strong. And again, I know there's been some overhang regarding questions on the budget and the like, but our international, you know, customers continue to have really strong demand for our product, whether that be Europe, MENA, Asia PAC. So the demand internationally continues to be exceptionally robust.

And just to put a finer point, sorry if I missed it, Chris, 37% of the total backlog is international. It's 52% if you exclude the munitions contracts, Tomahawk and AMRAAM that we added. So, you know, still very substantial. We booked $9 billion worth of international orders at Raytheon during the third quarter, a little overshadowed by the size of Tomahawk and AMRAAM, but still really, really strong bookings. And we expect some more here in the fourth quarter. So just a little extra color there. Thank you.

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. The last question comes from the line of Ken Herbert of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Ken.

Ken Herbert Analyst — RBC Capital Markets

Yeah, good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. As you look at the strong aftermarket growth in Pratt, you've obviously talked a lot about the GTF strength. How much of that growth was GTF, and can you give us any more update on what you're seeing on PW4, V25, and maybe Pratt Canada aftermarket in the quarter?

Thanks, Ken. Listen, the majority of that growth came from the GTF aftermarket. We're still seeing really solid content on the V2500. So Q3 was lifted a little bit by particularly strong content on the V program. So a little bit of growth there as well. We see that actually slowing down in the fourth quarter just on the mix of the inductions and the engines going through the shop. But as I said in the last call, we expected about 800 shop visits for 2026. We are right on track to that rate through the end of the third quarter, and we see no change to that outlook in the fourth quarter. And frankly, you know, I think we see that number of shop visit inductions pretty flat and consistent year over year with, again, increasing content on the V. But, you know, as we look at where we are today and the top line growth at Pratt, a lot of that's being driven off of our GTF program, which over time will far outweigh, you know, the structure decline in the V2500 powered aircraft.

Operator

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Nathan Ware.

Nathan Ware Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Lateef. That concludes today's call. As always, the Investor Relations team will be available for follow-up questions. Thank you all for joining us, and have a good day. Take care, everybody.

Operator

This now concludes today's conference. You may now disconnect.

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