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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us and welcome to JFrog's fourth quarter and fiscal 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question at that time, please raise your hand. If you have dialed into today's call, please press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute. I will now hand the conference over to Jeffrey Schreiner, VP Investor Relations. Jeffrey, please go ahead.
Thank you, Nicole. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us as we review JFrog's fourth quarter and fiscal 2024 financial results, which were announced following the market close today via a press release. Leading the call today will be JFrog's CEO and co-founder, Shlomi Benheim, and Ned Grabscheid, JFrog's CFO. During this call, we may make statements related to our business that are forward-looking under federal security laws and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements related to our future financial performance and including our outlook for Q1 and the full year of 2025. The words anticipate, believe, continue, estimate, expect, intend, will, and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements or similar indications of future expectations. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements which reflect our views only as of today and not as of any subsequent date. Please keep in mind that we are not obligating ourselves to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. These statements are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. For discussion of material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to our Form 10-K for the year-ended December 31, 2023, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website, and the earnings press release issued earlier today. Additional information will be made available in our Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2024, to be filed with the SEC on February 14, 2025, and other filings and reports that we may file from time to time with the SEC. Additionally, non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call. These non-GAAP financial measures, which are used as measures of JFrog's performance, should be considered in addition to, not as a substitute for, or in isolation from GAP measures. Please refer to the tables in our earnings release for a reconciliation of those measures to their most directly comparable GAP financial measures. A replay of this call will be available on the JFrog Investor Relations website for a limited time. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to JFrog's CEO, Shlomi Benheim. Thank you, Jeff.
Good afternoon to you all, and thank you for joining our call. I'm excited to share that JFrog closed the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2024 on a high note with meaningful results across all key focus areas, which we will discuss today. We believe that JFrog's strong cloud growth and adoption of our holistic advanced security solutions by enterprises underscore the strength of our platform strategy we are honored to gain the trust of many of the world's leading companies which are choosing jfrog as their go-to software supply chain infrastructure our enterprise focus go-to-market strategy in 2024 has secured multi-year sizable platform subscriptions from customers who choose jfrog as the single source of tools for all types of software packages and ai models this approach has driven higher customer lens delivered durable revenue growth and reinforced our leadership in the market as we close out 2024 i'm pleased by the focus execution of our vision making software universally accessible continuously updated and trusted everywhere a true realization of the liquid software revolution in the era of AI. This momentum propels us into 2025, fueled and energized. Let me review some of our results in more detail. In 2024, JFrog's total revenue was $428.5 million, up 22% year over year. Cloud revenue for 2024 was $168 million, representing 41% year-over-year growth. Our gross margin for the year was 83.8% alongside strong free cash flow of $107.8 million or free cash flow margin of 25% for the year. 2024 successes were driven by strong execution with our enterprise customers. Our investments in the first half of the year fueled their initiatives, resulting in some of JFrog's largest deals ever, closing in the second half of the year. In today's call, Ed will further discuss the fourth quarter results and dive deeper into our annual performance. Now, let me discuss the core of what fueled our accomplishments in Q4 and throughout 2024. First, JFrog's cloud success. As we embarked on 2024, we shared our outlook recognizing that the challenges of 2023, specifically around project migration and consumption discipline, would persist. Despite navigating tight budgetary environment and rigid procurement processes in 2024, we remained focused on execution and securing strong wins. As a result, we were pleased in Q3 and Q4 to see large companies demonstrate confidence in JFrog with multi-year commitments as they reignited their strategic cloud migration journeys with us once they had reached their optimal timing. Our 2024 cloud revenues were in line with the guidance we provided in Q2. we remain focused on driving more enterprise adoption of our cloud platform and building even tighter relationships with our cloud partners at aws google cloud and microsoft azure as an out copying of our strategic partnerships with the cloud providers i'm pleased to report that we have recently signed a strategic collaboration agreement with aws that we believe will enable joint enterprise customers to cost-effectively scale their DevSecOps and AI-driven software solutions in the cloud. We are looking forward to keeping the cloud momentum and promoting partnerships to support customers' cloud adoptions. Second, to security. JFrog was early to the market with the concept of the DevOps and security were inseparable and believed the powerful combination should displace all point solution via one platform we continue to envision a future where security is no longer fragmented a secured future powered by a single holistic and modern solution that optimizes operation and budget for jfog users emboldened by this vision we set out to deliver a platform designed not only to consolidate tools but to amplify development teams work delivering unmatched protection and risk mitigation to our users entire software supply chain for over three years we have doubled down on this security vision and invested organically and inorganically in what became the industry standard a single solution that automates a system of record and security as a unified process, as demanded by global CIOs and CISOs. I'm pleased to report that 2024 closed on a strong note with our security core becoming a mission critical piece of our enterprise offering. JFrog Advanced Security and JFrog Curation, as part of our JFrog platform, was successfully adopted by approximately 250 customers that are migrating from point solution tools like Snyk, Black Duck, Mend, Veracode, Checkmarks, Coverity, and others. In 2024, our most sizable deals included not only DevOps migration to the cloud, but the clear bet placed by customers on one solution, one platform that also covers their modern security requirements. We were excited to see the validation of this trend led by standardization and consolidation as some of the world's most recognizable companies demonstrated their trust in JFrog across verticals in 2024, including four wins across the top five companies in automotive, financial, healthcare, and telecommunication. Each of these industry leading companies placed multi-million dollar, multi-year, security-driven platform deals in 2024. In 2024, we invested not only in sales, but also in strategic partnerships focusing on the security persona experience. To our GitHub partnerships, we enabled a one-platform experience that coupled AI capabilities with security in GitHub Copilot and JFrog curation. This is all supported by our advanced JFrog catalog vulnerability database backed by our security research team enhancing enterprise security. To summarize our security success for 2024, I'm happy to report our core security solutions comprise over 5% of our final ARR and approximately 12% of our ending RPO in 2024. And third, to our enterprise strategic success. To successfully focus on the enterprise market, an organization needs more than just a dedicated Salesforce targeting high-end customers. This shift demands a comprehensive transformation in how a company operates and delivers value. It requires evolving the platform offering to address broader and more complex challenges, especially in the face of rapid technological changes. Additionally, it calls for an adjusted customer success approach, engagement with diverse persona and budget holders within client organizations, and a redefined partner strategy. Sometimes, it even involves making difficult decisions, such as parting ways with a subset of low subscription customers to remain focused on the enterprise segment and ensure long-term success in the app market space. I'm pleased to report that with our focus and efforts targeting the enterprise market, we have delivered consistent goals. In Q4, customers with ARR over $100,000 grew to a total of 1,018, up from 886 in the year-ago period. The number of customers with ARR exceeding $1 million increased to 52, up from 37 in the year-ago period. Now, before handing over to Ed, I want to dive into JFrog's perspective on MLOps and responsible AI. In 2024, we acquired Quack AI, making JFrog the first company to unify DevOps, DevSecOps, and MLOps within a single platform, as the industry increasingly demands. In recent weeks, we launched the first implementation of JFrog ML available now to our cloud customers. Our core values, such as multi-cloud and hybrid enterprise-grade offerings, are further empowering the Gen.AI and MLOps ecosystem with JFrog's strong partnerships and integrations, including HuggingFace, GitHub, and NVIDIA, to enhance users' workflows. Today's enterprises know that machine learning operation, MLOps, is inseparable from DevOps and DevSecOps, as getting AI models to production requires the same principle across development, security, deployment, and maintenance of binaries. Just as we have expanded our offering with security capabilities, building on Artifactory as the secured registry and the foundation of our platform, this MLOps expansion will empower our customers as they embrace AI-driven technologies. We are excited about what's ahead and look forward to promoting our partnerships with our customers and the community. With that, I will turn the call over to our CFO, Ed Grebscheid, who will provide an in-depth recap of Q4 financial results and our outlook for 2025 Q1, and full fiscal year of 2025. Ed?
Thank you, Shlomi, and good afternoon, everyone. During the fourth quarter of 2024, total revenues were $116.1 million, up 19% year-over-year. For the full year 2024, revenues equaled $428.5 million, up 22% year-over-year. Fourth quarter cloud revenues grew to $49.4 million, up 37% year-over-year and representing 43% of total revenues versus 37% in the prior year. Our strength in the cloud was driven by contribution from large customer wins as well as smaller customer migration activity during the quarter. In the fourth quarter of 2024, we recognized cloud revenues from customer migrations to a new enhanced cloud database product launched in 2024, which was previously delivered as an on-prem product. Contributions from this product in Q4 were approximately $1.3 million. Future customer migrations will be included as cloud revenues on a going-forward basis. For the full year 2024, cloud revenues equaled $168 million of 41% year-over-year. Full-year cloud revenues equaled 39% of total revenues versus 34% in the prior year. During the fourth quarter, our self-managed or on-prem revenues were $66.7 million, with full year 2024 equaling $260.5 million, up 13% year over year. Aligned with our strategy, we continue to see the majority of our new customers land and expand with our cloud solutions. JFrog's cloud-first approach naturally results in a slowing of customers' on-prem investments as they look forward to capturing even greater value coming from our cloud solutions. During 2024, we experienced another year of strong customer adoption of the complete JFrog platform, driven by customers looking to consolidate tooling and secure their software supply chain. In Q4, 54% of total revenues came from Enterprise Plus subscriptions, up from 49% in the prior year, while delivering year-over-year revenue growth of 31%, percent driven by the strong execution of our enterprise go-to-market strategy and upsell from our security core products revenue contributions from enterprise plus subscriptions grew 35 year-over-year in 2024 our security core which includes jfrog curation jfrog advanced security and jfrog runtime has gained momentum as customers actively consolidate point solutions As Shlomi noted, JFrog curation and advanced security were key drivers of many of our enterprise deals closed in the second half of the year. Revenue contribution from Security Core in 2024 was impacted by expanded proof of concept and timing of purchasing decisions. For the full year of 2024, security core revenue was 3% of total revenues, with our core security products now comprising more than 5% of our ending total ARR. Driven by a number of large, multi-year commitments to JFrog, our security core represented approximately 12% of our remaining Performance Obligation, or RPO, as of December 31, 2024. We continue to anticipate that security core products will achieve material revenue contribution in 2025. Net dollar retention for the four trailing quarters was 116%. We continue to demonstrate that our customers view JFrog solutions as mission critical to their software supply chain, with gross retention that equaled 96% in 2024. As noted by Shlomi, during 2024, we continue to focus our go-to-market initiatives around the enterprise, demonstrated by our success in the second half as we secured some of the largest deals in the company's history. Our team also prioritized new customer acquisition, specifically targeting opportunities with higher initial ARR and greater expansion durability. Given our enterprise go-to-market focus, our customer count in fiscal 2024 equaled approximately $7,300. Now, I'll review the income statement in more detail. Gross profit in the quarter was $96.5 million, representing a gross margin of 83.2%, in line with our expectations, compared to 84.6% in the year-ago period. The change in gross margin relative to the year-ago period was primarily due to the increased mix of our cloud revenues. We expect annual gross margins to remain between 82.5% and 83.5% in the near future. Operating expense in the fourth quarter was $75.6 million, dollars, flat sequentially, equaling 65 percent of total revenues. This compares to 66.1 million dollars, or 68 percent of revenues, in the year-ago period. We remain focused on expense discipline while we continue to invest in strategic initiatives. Our operating profit in Q4 increased to 20.9 million dollars, or an operating margin of 18 percent, compared to 16.2 million and 16.6% operating margin in the fourth quarter of 2023. For the full year 2024, we delivered non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.65, a 27% increase year-over-year, assuming approximately 115 million weighted average diluted shares. This compares to $0.51 in the prior year and 109 million weighted average diluted shares. Cash flow from operations equaled $49.1 million in the fourth quarter. After taking into consideration CapEx requirements, our free cash flow reached $48.5 million, or 42% margin, a record quarter for JFrog. For the full year 2024, we generated $110.9 million in operating cash flow and $107.8 million in free cash flow, a 25% margin. Now, turning to the balance sheet, we ended 2024 with $522 million in cash and short-term investments, compared to $545 million at the end of 2023, primarily due to the consideration paid for the acquisition of Kwok AI during Q3 2024. As of December 31st, 2024, our RPO totaled $403 million, a 55% increase year-over-year, benefiting from multi-year commitments to our security and platform solutions. Now, I'd like to speak about our outlook and guidance for the first quarter and full year of 2025. As a reminder, our guidance philosophy will be more conservative than what was provided in the past. Our outlook for the first quarter of 2025 assumes no change in the current macro environment and reflects historical seasonality as JFrog's lowest volume renewal quarter. Our outlook for the full year implies increased contributions from our security core, continued adoption of our full platform, and cloud migration activity consistent with 2024. We estimate full-year 2025 baseline cloud growth to be in the range of 30% to 32% and expect our net dollar retention to stabilize in the mid-teens. For Q1, we expect revenues to be in the range of $116 million and $118 million, equaling 17% year-over-year growth at the midpoint, With non-GAAP operating profit anticipated to be between $16.5 million and $17.5 million, and non-GAAP earnings per diluted share of $0.15 to $0.17, assuming a share count of approximately 118 million shares. For the full year of 2025, we would anticipate a revenue range of $499 million to $503 million, up 17% year-over-year at the midpoint. Non-GAAP operating income is expected to be between $73 million and $75 million, and non-GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.67 to $0.69, assuming a share count of approximately 120 million shares. During 2025, we will remain focused on investing in innovation to expand capabilities of our platform and deliver more value to our customers. We continue to be guided by balanced investing and a disciplined spending philosophy in line with prior execution. Now, I'll turn the call back to Shlomi for some closing remarks before we take your questions. Thank you, Ed.
2024, although tough, was a remarkable year for JFrog, with successes driven by our global team operating under an umbrella of adversity. Frogs, I'm proud and honored to stand beside you as my superheroes throughout the year. As we set our sights on 2025, we remain committed to quality growth and expanding our portfolio, bringing us closer to realizing our liquid software vision, a world where software delivery is effortless, secure, and seamless. Before we move on to questions and as we gratefully acknowledge that some of the israeli hostages have been safely returned and reunited with their families we continue to hope and pray for the safe return of all those still held captive in gaza may 2025 bring peace to the region and may the frog be with you operator we
are now open to take questions we will now begin the question and answer session please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up if you would like to ask a question please raise your hand now if you have dialed into today's call please press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute please stand by while we compile the q and a roster your first question comes from the line of pendulum bora from jp morgan chase your line is now open please go ahead
Oh, great. Thanks for taking the questions. Congrats on a great close to the year. Shlomi, obviously you're seeing really strong security traction, now 12% of our PO, 5% of the year. Given these successes, would you say you are seeing kind of a tangible change in prospective customer conversations, especially in those organizations where security is kind of a completely different silo, you know, other than software development or engineering. Basically, trying to understand if the recent successes around security is opening up more doors and if there are more kind of large eight-figure kind of deals in the pipeline.
Yes, thank you, Pendulum, and happy Valentine's, everyone. Specifically regarding security, we hear more and more of the CIOs and the CISOs of the world looking at consolidating point solution tools it's across the board it's mainly around the coverage of the software supply chain aligned with the new threats and integration with other players so the basic assumption is that our users would like to see an outcome which is a kind of all the findings are presented on a single pane therefore we are encouraged by what we hear we are encouraged by what to see in the pipeline of our customers and prospect keep pushing through consolidation and one holistic security solution um coming together with the with devops understood um thank you slomi uh and ed um
just maybe um one question for you trying to understand kind of the assumptions um on on the guidance a few parts to it one is when you see nr being mid-teens are you talking about plus minus kind of 215 plus minus two basically trying to figure out if it's going to drop down from the current levels or or it's kind of stay around the current levels um and then are you baking in any migrations uh into this guidance as well as um what would you say kind of contribution from the recent pricing and packaging changes you have done thank you so first off i'll start with the
net dollar retention rate uh we're really pleased with where we ended considering a really tough year and in 2024 and what we see is as i stated in the prepared statements we're stabilizing in the mid-teens that means somewhere between uh one to two percentage points uh is what we would anticipate now in terms of migration activity the migration activity is very similar what we're seeing going into the year is what we saw during 2024 and 2023 it's really around data consumption and the data consumption changes above minimum commits have not changed therefore this is why we see that stabilization of our net dollar retention rates we don't see much of a pickup in activity in the migration activity it's relatively stable anything on pricing uh ed the last thing on the pricing pricing we do a pricing change and we've done that now for consecutive years the impact on the pricing in 2025 would be comparable to what we saw during 2024 so it's not a significant change on a year-over-year basis the focus was more on the pro subscriptions but in terms of our upper tier subscriptions it remains relatively same year-over-year with a similar impact on a year-over-year basis understood thank you very
much. Your next question comes from the line of Michael Seacost with Needham. Please go ahead.
Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions here and congrats on a strong finish to the quarter and for the year as well. I wanted to start off just to get some more color on the cloud growth that we saw in Q4 and I guess the expectations. Great to hear on that 30 to 32% you're looking for next year um can we just dive into the the database comment i think that might be new from here and apologies if i missed it but that 1.3 million in revenue that we generated in q4 was that anticipated and how should we think about that scaling as we look out over the upcoming
year yes mike hi this is slomi i'll start and add feel free to jam in uh the our research team during 2024 was busy building a cloud service which is the jfog catalog that serves as the database of all of our security suites jfog x-ray jfog advanced security jfog curation and runtime this is now being a cloud service provided to all of our customers so faster than cloud and therefore we recognize that as part of our new security suite and part of
our cloud services in addition to that Mike regarding the 1.3 million it's not material first off secondly it's a decision by our self-hosted customers when they migrate from a older version to this new version the newer database version is a cloud service therefore going forward we will reflect that in our cloud guidance of 30 to 32 percent. Got it. Got it. Thank you for helping on that. And then
the second question I have for you, again, just hitting on the cloud migrations, and I think Pendulum was teasing at this a little bit before me, but to drive that 30 to 32 percent, again, it sounds like you guys are assuming relatively consistent pace of cloud migrations, but just
wanted to make sure i was i was hearing that properly yes mike as as we guided before we are we are being conservative looking at our pipeline and de-risking it looking at migration as step one as we saw mainly in the second half of the year and consumption increasing as an upside as step two uh we are looking at the pipeline we are looking at the portfolio we we are looking at the trend in the market, and this is how we based our guidance on.
Great, thank you. And congrats on all the security disclosures as well. Thank you very much, guys.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Sanjit Singh with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Yeah, thank you for taking the questions and congrats on a strong Q4. To that point, if we rewind about a year ago, you guys also had a strong quarter, particularly in cloud. And then, you know, I think the expectations got a little bit muddled to start the year. So Ed, I was wondering if you sort of, again, go through the assumptions, is there sort of a natural cadence in terms of the customer base, in terms of how they think about optimization and then investment following optimization in terms like a Q1 first half versus second half dynamic? It would seem like that was kind of a theme in 2023 and 2024. Is that the sort of the right storyline as we think about 2025, potentially another optimization cycle to start the year, followed by projects coming online and the incremental investment in cloud?
So first off, regarding Q4 of 23, we had a one-time benefit in there. So I want to put that out there. Very different than what we saw in Q4 of 24. This is not a one-time benefit, and it's strength in the cloud. As we step into 2025, what we see is customers that remain very cost-conscious, and they are built into their commits and minimum commits. They are not spending above those minimum commits. first off. So we're not seeing usage above the minimum commit. Secondly, as you stated, we start to see projects, these large projects that we talked about that we de-risked from our pipeline. Many of those projects happen towards the second half of the year. Regardless of when we start those conversations, we just see those projects starting towards the second half of the year. And I would anticipate that we would see something very similar in 2025 as we did in 2024.
for understood that that's great and then show me on the uh security side with the business at five percent of arr is there going to be uh any additional sort of change in sales motion i imagine that you're seeing traction with some of these really large customers um and some of these um large deals that you signed particularly the second half buying onto the security vision as you kind of try and push down into the mainstream of the enterprise base uh within within the Jfile customer base, are you contemplating any changes, incentives to drive, to broaden the breadth of that adoption of the security solutions or the core security solutions?
Yes, Sanjit, our strategic team and the entire Salesforce is armed with what it takes in order to scale with our security offering now matured. And 2024 demonstrates that we were very pleased by this very big contract that triggered a much larger deal because of the security addition. And it's now not only JFOG Advanced Security and JFOG Curation. We launched JFOG runtime recently, as you know. And the ML SecOps is stepping in. customers are starting to inquire more and more about how they can secure AI models with the JFrog suite. We reported today 250 customers that embrace our security solution. That means that we have a mission with additional 7,000 and the rest of the industry. So we are very optimistic about it and we will take it
the leap by leap. Thank you so much. Your next question comes from the line of Kingsley Crane
with Canaccord. Please go ahead. Hey, thank you. And congrats on a strong year to fiscal 24. On the strategic collaboration agreement, SEA, funny that that's also software competition analysis. It's great to see. I'm just curious, like what's truly incremental about the agreement and then wondering what sort of increased resources might be allocated for procurement on AWS's side.
Yeah, Kingsley, as you know, and as we described in the past, we are not just building our cloud solution. We are also building the relationship with the cloud providers. And with each of them, it's a different effort that we are pushing, not only on the technology integration and improvement of the user experience in different regions but also the commercial part of it what we've managed to do with the AWS together with our partner team is that we got to an agreement that will have more cost-effective scale to our customers so basically with the better conditions with AWS we can be more attractive with our customers and this is a very important agreement as we keep scaling
with the cloud overall and aws specifically it's helpful and then ed uh you officially became cfo jan one of last year i think there's this idea out there in the market that the guidance philosophy may be changing and that there could be more upside to guidance now than in years past so just how much credence is there to that idea and then second could you speak to just the fundamental
drivers of upside this next year thank you well i don't think it's an idea i think it's a fact said it now a couple times on the prepared statements that we're going with a much more conservative guide, and that's the philosophy that I'm taking. It's focused on a couple things here, Kingsley. Number one is the de-risking of these large deals that create swings in the quarter. We are taking those out of our guidance. Usage is certainly not something that we take in consideration in the guidance, and we're only looking at those opportunities that are committed strong commitments going forward. Therefore, I'm not pegging a number necessarily in terms of the beat, but I'm saying that it's much more conservative going forward and what you're used to from JFrog.
Makes perfect sense. Looking forward to this year.
Your next question comes from the line of Ryan McWilliams with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. For Shlomi, how has macro been since the start of the fourth quarter, and did you notice any changes or improvement in your conversations with customers since the U.S. presidential election?
Well, thank you for the question. We don't see a big change in the macro. We still see very conservative usage of the cloud solution. We still see very conservative bets on the commitment, even if it's multi-year contracts. projects that are in the pipeline are still being discussed there is a lot of discussions about ai and ml ops in production but still customers are being very hesitating and more specifically about the new administration now that the executive order was changed they are taking a bit more time to wait and see what will the new administration bring in terms of regulation of AI adoption in production, but no specific change that I can report on.
Perfect. And then, glad to see the strong security commentary. Do you think the fourth quarter going forward could see more seasonality for security sales? You know, like, as people make these decisions towards year end, and it's more of an enterprise sale for JFrog?
well if there is one thing ryan that we've learned in 2024 is that if you want to go after big contracts you have to be patient and to remind you all we started the year with introductory prices of our security suite thinking that maybe this will be more attempting but the big guys are taking their time before they are displacing other products and before they are betting on a holistic solution and they also want to make sure it's a modern security suite that will fit the requirements in the future so i don't think that you will see any type of special seasonality here but i do think and this is how we look at the pipeline this is why we are being a bit more conservative than last year uh i do think that proof of concept for security tools will take longer um and uh and at the end if the customers choose jfrog this might be a multi-year multi-million dollar deals as we delivered in 2024.
appreciate the color thanks so much your next question comes from the line of billy mandel with key bank capital markets please go ahead and moving along your next question comes from the line of andrew sherman with td cowan please go ahead great thanks can you hear me yes we can
hear you i like the new zoom congrats on the quarter um and just a quick one for you could you confirm there were no true ups or overages in the cloud number for q4 there's no true ups
as we stated before most of our customers have moved to a monthly use it or lose it mechanism further for the cloud so we don't have the true up that you saw previously uh and and uh so there was nothing that was of significant or large true ups like we did in 2023 okay perfect and then
slummy uh and i know these aren't in guidance anymore but you had a lot of strong big deals in q3 this year we'd love to hear what you're seeing in the pipeline given these are long sales cycles are there similar types of deals in the pipeline and any commentary along enterprise
traction would be great thanks yeah a lot of big deals in q3 and some of them in q4 and we were very pleased with the second half of 2024 we are looking at the pipeline we have some big opportunities there to include not only cloud migration but couple it with the security as as we reported before we are looking at it being very uh conservative with how we de-risk the pipeline and we will report uh in the next quarter and after about the future success
all right thank you your next question comes from the line of shrenak kuthari with baird please go
ahead yeah thanks for taking my question uh congrats guys uh so uh shlomi of course you you highlighted uh the 250 customers adopting the advanced security and curation so it's a really great job i was just curious uh beyond the big deal pipeline again i mean that's that's uh it's a great execution that you have shown so far i'm seeing any any signs of uh potential kind of correlation between kind of now having an integrated platform approach and uh also seeing some traction to the faster uh expansion or just in terms of visibility uh upsell cross-sell uh since you mentioned about uh run time seeing traction uh so just curious into the incremental adoption of these uh advanced security modules or features and then add a follow-up for ed
Yeah. Well, thank you, Shrenk, for the question. Obviously, out of 250 customers we reported today that are using the new security suite of JFrog as part of the platform, there are several that are really multi-year, multi-million dollar deals. The rest are supposed to go with the buy seat model and we hope to see this goal coming coming in 2025 and after regarding the rest of the portfolio the practices are there the price plan is there the team is mature and we are ready to go after the opportunity I think JFOG offer not only the best holistic security in the market but also aiming to future opportunities like ML SecOps threats and also better integration. One of them is with GitHub, another one with hugging phases, as we mentioned. So I'm really excited about what the future brings.
Great. I appreciate that, Shlomi. And just add, just in light of what Shlomi just said, just curious, how should we think about incremental top line and potentially margin contribution attributable to the security, incremental security adoption that you're seeing going forward? Not necessarily asking for the rest of the year, but just in terms of broad frameworks of how should we think about incremental margin?
Yeah, so we have a very strong margin profile. We guide at the corporate level. So the 82.5% to 83.5% takes into consideration all products and all deployments. We do not break it out by security or other products. It's captured holistically in our corporate guidance that we provide in terms of our gross margin.
Thanks.
Your next question comes from the line of Koji Akita with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question. Only one from me here. Nice performance on the free cash flow margin to end 2024 at 25.2%, which is really close to your 2027 target model here. But when I look at the guide for 2025, 19%. So really just trying to understand the six points of margin degradation there in the free cash flow and anything we you think about there and from 2025 and the progression to 2027 or is this just you know kind of an effect of guidance conservatism on the revenue flowing down to the cash flow side thank
you yeah thank you Koji that's a great question so first off you know we're very happy with our our free cash flow and and our free cash flow margin and the performance but you also have to take into consideration a lot of large multi-year deals some of those customers choose to pay up front. We don't necessarily know when they choose to do that. So you get some benefit of customers paying up front. We also have very strong and disciplined practice around collections. So you see some of that benefit of that as well. As we head into 2025, again, we go off of a fundamental practice of around four to 5% difference from the operating margin. so as you start to see growth in the top line i would expect that would trickle down to the bottom
and koji may i add this is slomi this is not surprising i hope because if there is one thing that you saw us delivering from the beginning is a very disciplined efficient dna around the the efficiency of the business uh so it's part of our strategy it was not different in 2021 and it's not different in 2024 and the performance are speaking for themselves
yeah totally get it thanks guys thanks for taking the questions
your next question comes from the line of rob owens with piper sandler please go ahead great
thanks for taking my question this is ethan on for rob today uh shlomi i just want to ask with the AI conversation shifting more and more towards agentic solutions. How does this kind of change the opportunity, the AI opportunity for JFrog, if at all, especially as we consider kind of the new capabilities brought by Quack?
Well, Rob, putting all the AI fluff aside, I will say that the majority of our enterprise customers are already inquiring about having Artifactory as the model registry and making JFrog the the single source of record for AI models as well. That's by itself is a huge opportunity for JFrog and our R&D and product team are focusing on foster this opportunity. On the security side, there is a lot of kind of vague future about how you secure AI, how you secure your IP, and what the administration will set as a regulation. And we are setting our security tools with the future demand. We just released our first JFOG ML as a result of the Quack acquisition as part of our platform. And we are learning more about our customers' demand. We said that we are conservative about the pipeline. Therefore, we didn't include any ML Ops guidance in 2025. And we will learn as we go, focusing on the value for the customers.
Got it. That makes sense. And just as a quick follow-up, I think you mentioned in your prepared remarks around parting ways with some smaller customers as you kind of focus on the enterprise opportunity. And I was wondering if you could kind of provide some more color around that and, you know, maybe how that might have impacted the customer account number that you reported,
given it was down slightly or beer, I believe. Thanks. Yes. We said starting Q1 of the previous here that we are going to be focused on execution and we are going to be focused on enterprise execution. We replaced 740 logos with 640 logos that have more chances to grow with JFOG and with what we offer. Some of the low subscribers, some of them are monthly users of our cloud. We had to focus the business, we had to focus the team, we had to focus our technology and offering and that's uh some of the results um i i hope that uh you will see more and more growth coming from the customers that choose to stay with jfog and still the retention is super
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uh congratulations on a strong forward queue uh just want to ask about the github partnership which was of course a hot topic in 2024 curious to hear how you're seeing that drive pipeline and maybe as we look out to the balance of 2025 what the evolution of that partnership might look
Yes, well, we are getting wonderful feedback from the field about the GitHub integration. A customer who chose GitHub and JFrog together are now enjoying a one-platform experience. We deliver that on the DevOps level, security level, and co-pilot with AI. I think that what we currently hear is that customers are more interested interested in having a solution of co-pilot with the JFOG platform. So working with co-pilot and enhancing the software supply chain management through this integration is mainly what they are focusing about because they are immediately pointing the ROI of their development team using both of us together. So that would probably be our main focus.
Great. Thank you.
There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Shlomi for closing remarks.
Thank you, everyone, for joining our call. May the frog be with you, and happy Valentine's.
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