Thank you for standing by and welcome to the Sunoco First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press the star 1. Thank you. I'd now like to turn the call over to Roger Schrumm, Interim Head of Investor Relations and Communications. You may begin.

Thank you, Rob, and good morning, everyone. Yesterday evening, we issued a news release and posted an investor presentation that reviews Sunoco's 2025 first quarter financial results. Both are posted on our investor relations section of our website at sunoco.com. A replay of today's conference call will be available on our website, and we'll post a transcript later this week. If you would turn to slide two, I would remind you that during today's call, we will discuss a number of forward-looking statements based on current expectations, estimates, and projections. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties. Therefore, actual results may differ materially. Additionally, today's presentation includes the use of non-GAAP financial measures, which management believes provides useful information to investors about the company's financial condition and results of operations. Further information about the company's use of non-GAAP financial measures, including definitions as well as reconciliations to GAAP measures, is also available on the Investor Relations section of our website. Finally, references to certain financial metrics along with corresponding year-over-year comparable results made on this call are on a full company basis, except when specifically referred to for continuing operations or for discontinued operations. Joining me on this call today is Howard Coker, President and CEO, Roger Fuller, Chief Operating Officer, and Jerry Cheatham, Interim Chief Financial Officer.

For today's call, we have prepared remarks followed by a q a if you'll now turn to slide four in our presentation i'll now turn the call over to howard thank you roger and uh good morning everyone let me start our first quarter results demonstrated the strength of the new sunoco as our global team achieved records top-line, and adjusted EBITDA performance. Slide 5 shows net sales were 31% or grew 31%, and adjusted EBITDA was up 38%, while adjusted earnings were up 23%, despite higher-than-expected interest expenses, taxes, and the negative impact from currency translation. I'll let Jerry go through the key drivers for the quarter, but overall, we are pleased with the improvement in both our consumer packaging and industrial packaging segments. The 127 percent growth in adjusted EBITDA in the consumer segment reflects a full quarter of the EBIOSIS acquisition along with strong volume mix from a legacy metal and rigid paper can businesses and a positive price cost environment. Industrial segment generated a 6% improvement in adjusted EBITDA, stemming from a year-over-year improvement in price cost and productivity. Volume was down low single digits in the quarter, and flat results in South America was offset by results in the rest of our served markets. At Channel Slide 6, we completed the sale of the Thermoform and Flexible System of the Copan Holdings on time and as expected. We received approximately $1.8 billion in cash for the business, which generated approximately $1.56 billion in after-tax proceeds, which we used to significantly reduce debt and strengthen our balance sheet. We do extend our best wishes for continued success to our approximately 4,500 former TFP teammates and their new SOPAN team. On April 1, we completed the first phase of the integration of Eviosis by rebranding the business to NOCO Metal Packaging EMEA. As shown on slide 7, we're changing our digital imagery as well as physical signage trucks. Overall, while early, it's been a real nice start to the integration. We're going to treat our global metal packaging businesses as a single enterprise to better capture the best ideas, innovations, and synergies. Our integration efforts produce strong synergy savings across the global metal packaging enterprise in the first quarter, and we now believe we should be able to achieve approximately $40 million of savings in 2025 on our way towards our two-year synergy target of $100 million. Working together, our global cam businesses are also identifying long-term savings and and commercial opportunities that will benefit our customers for years to come. We're encouraged by the performance of our combined global metal packaging business, and we continue to find opportunities to work with our customers to provide even greater value to enhance innovation and a much stronger global supply chain. After one quarter together, our global metal packaging sales or tracking at our expectations and adjusted EBITDA margins was near 16%. Our U.S. metal packaging business had strong year-over-year results as the business achieved 10% organic volume mix improvement, a strong growth in aerosols and food cans coming from both existing customer demand and new customer wins. Adjusted EBITDA for our EMEA metal packaging business was up approximately 23% percent in the first quarter on productivity savings and positive year-over-year price cost environment. Can volumes in Europe reflect the slower market conditions in the region, but we're encouraged by new customer wins, particularly in the pet food segment, where we will start seeing benefits in the second half and continuing into future years as we build out additional production capabilities. Finally, our global rigid paper can business had a solid first quarter as low single digit volume mixed growth in north america and south america was somewhat offset by slower european and southeast asia volumes but that brief introduction i'm turning the call over to jerry to review the numbers thanks howard i'm pleased to present the first quarter financial results starting on page nine of the presentation please note that all results on an adjusted basis and all growth metrics on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise stated.

Gap to non-gap EPS reconciliation is in the appendix of this presentation as well as in the press release. As Howard mentioned, on April 1st, 2025, we finalized the sale of our thermal form and flexible packaging business, marking a significant milestone in advancing our fewer, bigger businesses strategy. This divestiture strengthens our focus on core sustainable packaging platforms and positions us to reinvest in higher return opportunities that drive long-term earnings growth and margin expansion. Looking ahead, our leadership in two core markets will enable us to operate more efficiently and serve our customers with greater focus and agility. Adjusted EPS was $1.38. Earnings per share increased 23% year-over-year, mainly driven by continued strong productivity of $17 million and favorable price cost performance across our core businesses. These gains were partially offset by unfavorable volume mix, other non-recurring items, and currency translation. First quarter net sales increased 31% to $1.7 billion, excluding discontinued operations of 321 million. This change was driven by favorable price and the impact of the full quarter of S&P EMEA's sales. Adjusted EBITDA of 338 million was up by an outstanding 38%, and adjusted EBITDA margin improved 170 basis points to 16.6%. This was driven by positive price costs, sustained favorable productivity, and the impact of acquisitions, and partially offset by volume softness in the industrial segment and the impact of currency translation. Page 10 has our consumer segment results on continuing operations space. Consumer sales were up 83% due to the S&P EMEA acquisition and favorable volume mix. Global rigid paper container sales increased marginally compared to the prior year, while our domestic metal packaging business achieved double-digit growth, reflecting solid demand and continued commercial execution. Consumer adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations grew a remarkable 127% year-over-year due to the impact of acquisitions, favorable price cost dynamics, continued productivity gains, and positive volume mix. Page 11 has our industrial segment results. Industrial sales decreased 6% to 558 million. Results were impacted by lower volumes, the planned exit of our industrial operations in China, and unfavorable currency translation. These headwinds were partially offset by low single-digit improvements in selling prices, driven by index-based price resets. Adjusted EBITDA margins expanded 200 basis points year-over-year in the first quarter, primarily driven by favorable price-cost dynamics and productivity gains. These benefits were partially offset by negative volume mix, as well as the impact of unfavorable currency translation and other items. Adjusted EBITDA increased by $6 million to $101 million, representing a 6% increase. Phase 12 has our results for the all-other businesses. The all-other sales were $85 million, and adjusted EBITDA was $14 million. These sales and adjusted EBITDA results were affected by the divestiture of protective solutions, combined with the ongoing softness in some key end markets. Turning to phase 13, we are reporting on our debt reduction progress. As of today, we have reduced our net leverage to just under four times net debt to adjusted EBITDA. We used approximately $1.5 billion in after-tax proceeds from the TFP sale to fully repay our $1.5 billion term loan. Our primary focus is to delever the business through strong organic cash flow and by using divestiture proceeds to reduce debt. we've established a clear and actionable roadmap to achieve this over the next 18 to 24 months our liquidity position remains strong with approximately 915 million in available capacity providing us with ample financial flexibility to support our operations navigate market conditions and invest in strategic initiatives as needed slide 14 provides a summary of the full year guidance. We are reaffirming our full year guidance. We expect to deliver adjusted EPS within the range of $6 and $6.20. This outlook reflects continued strength in our legacy businesses, the accretive impact of S&P EMEA acquisition, and the now completed divestiture of TFP, which is expected to be modestly diluted. We also anticipate some headwinds, including a higher effective tax rate and some softness on the industrial volume mix this will be more than offset by the expected favorable price cost outlook actions to reduce fixed costs strong volumes in the consumer segment and the favorable impact of currency translations due to a weaker us dollar the previously announced price increases on our urb and converted products in north america were intended to defend our margins from continued inflation the implementation is going well, and we anticipate seeing those benefits in our second half results. We expect another strong year of cash generation, with operating cash flow projected between $800 to $900 million, and free cash flow between $450 to $550 million. And now, I'll hand it over to Howard to walk us through our transformation journey.

Right, thanks, Sherry. One of the things we don't talk enough about when we do our quarterly results is the unbelievable work and dedication our team is putting in the transformation of the new Sunoco into a simpler stronger and more sustainable company. In the past quarter our team successfully completed a complex carve out the vesture of the TFP business. In addition our 6,500 new teammates of Sunoco metal packaging EMEA are quickly working to integrate the business and drive expected synergy. As we show on slide 15 since we began this journey five years ago we have reduced the number of divisions in our portfolio from 18 down to three or consumer and industrial businesses while creating an enterprise that is positioned for future growth as we show on slide 16 sunoco was recently recognized by newsweek as one of the most trustworthy and respected companies in the united states in addition just last week on earth day usa today named sunoco one of america's climate leaders for 2025 in recognition of our efforts over the past several years to reduce carbon emissions from our operations these honors belong to our employees who work every day to make life better for our customers our communities and shareholders we've been asked a lot recently about tariffs and how Sunoco may perform during periods of economic stress. Let me make a couple of observations. First, Sunoco's consumer packaging business tends to perform well during periods of economic stress as consumers typically shift the center of the store packaged food. While industrial paper packaging business has experienced some slowing during past recessions, I would point out that our industrial business in 2025 is significantly stronger and the markets we serve have matured since the COVID recession of 2020. Now, does that mean that Sunoco is immune to an economic downturn or tariffs? Certainly not. If you turn to slide 17, you'll see we believe Sunoco's better position than ever to navigate the evolving geopolitical landscape. First, our manufacturing network is designed to serve local markets, reducing our exposure to cross-border disruptions and tariff-related risks. Second, while we are actively working with our customers to help manage the impact of higher input costs driven by tariffs, our business model allows for pricing adjustments when necessary. Most importantly, our transformed portfolio is significantly more resilient with over two-thirds of our sales now coming from consumer food packaging, a segment that has historically demonstrated strong performance across economic cycles. Turning to slide 18, Sunoco's goal is to increase long-term profitability and return capital to shareholders. Over the past two years, Sunoco has generated a record $1.7 billion in operating cash flow and approximately $1 billion in free cash flow. We've used much of this cash to invest in ourselves for future growth and to drive productivity savings. While we are currently focusing on using free cash to lower leverage, our dividend remains an important part of our value creation story. Since 1925, which was roughly 100 consecutive years, Sunoco has paid quarterly dividends. It's why the investment service, Sure Dividend, is named Snoco at its number four top-divided champion for 2025. It's also why our board of directors recently increased our quarterly dividend for the 42nd consecutive year, and it provides a strong yield of 4.6%. In closing, I thought it'd be worthwhile to review my priorities for the rest of the year, which is shown on slide 19. First and foremost is to mind the storm. to continue to drive improved performance of our core consumer industrial business. Embedded in that priority is to manage risk associated with the changing macroeconomic conditions. Next, we'll continue to manage the metal packaging EMEA integration and look to further optimize our global manufacturing network and organization. We'll continue to prepare for the planned divestitures who are attracted to non-core temperature-assured business. And finally, we must better communicate our value creation story to help improve our very much underappreciated stock. Slide 20 was developed to better illustrate the new Sunoka, our businesses, our serve markets, and our geographic footprint. As Jerry mentioned, we reaffirmed our full year 2025 guidance as we expect to grow net sales by approximately 20%, to nearly $8 billion. We expect adjusted earnings to grow approximately 20% and adjusted EBITDA by approximately 30%. Despite seasonal working capital changes in the first quarter, Sunoka remains a strong cash flow generator, and we expect operating cash flow this year to be between $800 and $900 million. Even with economic uncertainty, we remain confident in our ability to deliver continued growth, margin expansion, and strong cash flow generation, enabling us to drive even greater long-term value to our shareholders. And with that, operator, we're ready to take questions.

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 in your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star 1 again. Your first question comes from a line of George Staffels from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Thanks for the details. I guess first question I would have, if you could just give us a bit more color on the volume performance by region by key segment or product line. I know you touched on a lot of it, Howard, during your remarks. But if you'd just give us sort of a quick review, you know, North America versus Europe versus the rest of the world, if you care, to talk to that, you know, rigid paper, metal, and industrial on an organic, if you have that, that'd be great. And then a couple of other questions.

Sure, George. Boy, I'm going to start with the consumer side. You know, felt really positive in total. but uh to drill into that and you know we're talking um you know mid single digits uh over the consumer on a global basis but when you drill into that what we're seeing is rigid paper north america was actually slightly up you know and south america the same south america was actually really strong um you go over to europe and we were down um and similarly which is for the first time in a long time we saw that our southeast asia rigid paper volumes were down you know europe and southeast asia and some extent uh uh in north america one discreet customer very large customer is going through a transition at this point in time and we've seen some pullback uh we don't see that as being nothing nothing more than a timing issue and uh particularly in Europe and South America and benefit, not South America, Southeast Asia, and benefit as things clear up there. On the industrial side, you know, really a lot of red, but low single digits. You know, like, you know, North America, I would suggest, again, low single digits. The real issue call out there would be Europe. Europe was softer than we expected, But if you take South America, which is basically flat, slightly down in the U.S., you know, we're pretty much holding our own on the industrial side as well. So that's kind of the big picture. Oh, and you said asked about metal. So metal, in North America, as I said, we said 10%. But let me unpack that a bit. But our aerosol business was up roughly 25 percent, quarter over quarter. Our food can business was probably 10 plus percent. But what's embedded in there is our intercompany sales related to components. So loose ends, et cetera. Again, we have one discrete customer that has pulled back on their volumes that we expect to see return. and the relatively near future so uh if you're really talking about canned bodies uh you're up probably in that 15 type range in total between aerosol and food and europe um well we are very pleased with how things have started and improvement year over year in terms of profitability the business a little slower than our expectations and i'd say right on mid single digits down to our expectations okay and we see that at least we see we see that as a bit of a timing issue as you know it's typically a softer first quarter and as you're well aware

a ramp up through second and third okay howard and just you're you're pleased with europe it's down mid single digits in metal so far correct say that again europe you're pleased but it's down mid-single digits in metal, correct?

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah, from volume. Profitability was up. EBITDA was up about 25% year over year.

Thanks for that rundown, Howard. Two quick ones, and I'll turn it over. One, are you seeing any changes in purchasing behavior, any changes in the supply chain, anything to call out on customer promotional activity given tariffs, given the macro? And that's sort of a big question. You don't have to go through everything, but if there's anything in particular we as analysts should know about relative to how we're modeling you going forward, that's kind of what's behind that question. And then you talk about messaging and trying to, you know, this is my wording, not yours, get the story out to a larger degree on Sunoco. It's neither here nor there. But what do you think needs to be better understood by the market relative to the discount you see in the stock versus where you think it should be? Thanks, and I'll turn it over.

Sure. What we're seeing for changes, supply chain, customers, et cetera, really not a lot. I think when we'll start feeling it is when we start seeing what I would suspect would be increased pull through from our consumer customers, which historically our consumer businesses have performed very well, but not a lot. What I would suggest that unique to Sunoco is that we do have our largest paper can customer in the midst of an acquisition. And so to your point about marketing, et cetera, we've seen decreases there as they anticipate the turnover of that business. So, a little stagnation in the last quarter or so with that customer, and we have very, very strong opinions about where the new owner can take this business. So, we'll see how that manifests itself post-close mid-year. Yeah, the message is really more about as we're ending this whole transition, as you guys know, as you know uh the numbers are it's tough to follow what's all going on and to be able to start reaching a point of uh i would never say finish state but certainly on the projector we've been over literally the last five years um start being able to connect the the significantly improved performance the company's seen over the last couple of years and the inverse relationship to our stock and start telling the story on where we are, where we're landing, where we're going, and I think even starting today, it should be a little more clear, if a lot more clear, than would have been in an earlier period, so that is just it, just getting the message out about who we are, where we're going, what the opportunities look like, and it's a pretty exciting, pretty exciting go-forward story for the company. All right.

Howard, I appreciate it. Thanks. I'll turn it over. Good luck in the quarter. Thanks.

Your next question comes from a line of Michael Roxland from Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Thank you, Howard, Jerry, Roger, and Roger for taking my questions, and congrats on all the progress. Can you help us? You mentioned managing your global network. Can you give us a sense of where there are opportunities and some of the things that you're considering doing around your global network?

Yeah, Michael, this is Roger. I think that's specifically talking about our metal in, our metal can business, our metal in supply, and Howard's already mentioned that how that's integrated into our paper can business. You know, with significant added operations in Europe, with a lot of the strategic ten plate supply being provided out of Europe, you know, we're looking across the platform, our European platform, our Asia and U.S., and deciding where is the best location primarily to produce easy open ends, non-easy open ends, components for all of our businesses, all of our consumer businesses now, our canned businesses, and making those decisions over the next couple of years, you know, strategically, where can we provide the lowest cost solution to our operations and to our customers and working through that as we speak. So, that's really, in my opinion, outside of the tremendous synergy opportunity, which we can talk about later, that we have just combining our two metal businesses.

So, again, it's looking at this global platform we have now and making those longer-term decisions on where is the low-cost opportunities how do we use that to gain market share to grow our business which is the ultimate objective of looking at that global platform yeah michael let me add one other uh and when we you know if you look at our uh global rigid paper container business this is how we operate we uh we we operate under one single umbrella globally and you know the benefit and we started that probably 10 12 15 years and arts and be able to take the best of the best of each market in terms of technology r d innovation and have that centralized where there's not cross-border challenges or competition but but being able to create the best of global in terms of those categories. And it's worked well for us on the paper can side. And you'll see us over time with that same type structure. And so, again, taking the best of one region and the best of the other region and creating something that no one else has been able to do.

Gotcha. That's very helpful, guys. On ebiosis transitioning, I think I heard you say that EBITDA was up 23% Now, year over year in 1Q, I think you reiterated the guide for either that would be up to 10%. Is that just conservatism or is that some concerns over your tariff and economic uncertainty? Like, why reiterate the more modest guide relative to what, you know, the strong 1Q performance?

I just think it's conservative and comps, so no doubt about it. Last year was a weaker quarter, stronger quarter this year. being conservative as we go forward.

Nothing operationally stands out, though. It's just work.

No, it's just flow.

And last question before turning it over, just in terms of the AWS integration, last quarter you mentioned having a very strong leadership team there. What has the company done to ensure that the team is retained and there's not turnover in the near term that could cause disruption and negatively impact results?

Yeah, Michael, it's Roger. Let me just talk a little bit about the integration and maybe this gets out in front of a couple of questions, but I know it's on people's mind, but you're right. You know, we're pleased with integration, very impressed with the capabilities and talents of the new team and seeing nice progress on the integration across the board. I think number one is spending time with the leadership team and the critical people in the business, you know, across the board from our customers, from the market standpoint. and our people are very pleased to see a strategic buyer coming and stepping in and taking a leadership position in the boot camp market in Europe. So, in general, the team is very pleased to be part of Sunoco, and they understand the vision. They understand what we're trying to do with the global business, and they want to deliver the results that we're looking at. So, typically, you know, as you go through these, I think you know they're a retention type discussions that we have around timing, around packages, around the business, that's all going extremely well. The leadership team has tremendous experience in the metal can market. They want to continue with the business, so it's really just that constant communication and really the culture of Sunoco is making people feel involved with the business, making people feel part of something bigger, and again, I can tell you across the board, we feel comfortable that the critical people that we need in the business will continue to to stay with us let me go ahead and talk talk about synergies because i know it will come up from a cost synergy standpoint you know howard's already mentioned we're upping our run rate this year to the 40 million dollar level by the end of the year becoming more and more confident that we can at least hit that 100 million dollar level by the end of 2026 which has been our our commitment you know direct synergies materials direct materials we're looking at it from a global template business standpoint indirect logistics business sna we're looking at it from a european footprint standpoint keep in mind now over 40 percent of sunoco is now based in europe so we're looking at synergies across our paper can business our industrial business and our metal business in europe and then finally eviosis as you know is a standalone business so from a corporate sna standpoint good synergies there as well with the team that we have here primarily in Hartzville. But we're most excited about the market and the customer synergies. As I said, tremendous response from our local customers with a strategic stepping into a leadership position. Global customers that we may serve in both regions or one of the other regions are very interested in our global capabilities now. That gets back to your earlier questions on the global capability and the platform that we're looking at self-manufacturer opportunities howard talked about innovation so all in all feel very good about it they're very good about the team uh from a turnover standpoint uh at this point we're not concerned the team's very involved very engaged and we feel good about the connection that they have with our leadership team here and sunoco in general so all in all going well and we're depending on that leadership team to continue to help us work work our way and lead the business and deliver on the commitments we've made from a Synergy standpoint.

That's great, Phil. I really appreciate it, and good luck in 2Q.

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Weintraub from Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Thanks so much. So, I appreciate that you've upped the target on Synergy by 10 million. At the same time, you've talked about the volume environment being weaker. I think you had originally come into the year thinking like a 2% to 3% type of growth in consumer packaging was viable, correct me if I'm wrong there, but what would your updated view be? And then presumably that delta would be more than a 10 million negative delta.

So I'm curious, what are some of the other explicit drivers you think are going to help offset that in keeping the guidance where it had been? yeah mark we're uh when you say consumer we're actually all looking at an increase uh in terms of volumes as we head into the the upcoming quarters so uh really you just cannot look at the first quarter um particularly in this business which does have high seasonality so as we're looking out we're seeing that uh much stronger second quarter third quarter rates really across both the paper can as well as the global metal can businesses. So we're not really factoring saying, hey, there was a 7% down in the first quarter. That translates for the year. Our expectations are that'll work itself out through the course of the year.

So just to clarify, so you're still kind of embedding a 2% to 3% volume increase for the year, which I think is what you had been talking about three months ago?

Yes.

Okay. Fair enough. That's correct. And then second, any update on ThermoSafe and where your thought process there might be?

Yeah. Well, first off, very pleased with the continued solid performance from the team. You know, really not a formal update, I wouldn't say that we're preparing ourselves and we will make a decision on when to go on, frankly, what it's going to turn out to be, what is the macro situation like at that time, but officially, right now, I'd say we're still looking at, by the end of the year, coming to a resolution on that. But, again, happy with the trajectory of the business, and we'll see how that unfolds through the course of the year. Thanks very much.

Again, if you'd like to ask a question, press star 1 in your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from a line of Matt Roberts from Raymond James. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning, everybody. Thanks for the time. Quick question. On leverage, post the TFP pay down on April 3rd, where does your net adjusted debt stand? You said it was less than four times, but what would that have been at the end of one queue and recognizing there is some seasonality with a larger metal business? Where do you expect that leverage to be by year-end 25?

Yeah, this is Jerry. You know, as we stated, we expect it to be by the end of this year under four times, and we're still on track to reach our target of three to 3.3 times by the end of 2026.

Okay, thank you for the clarification. so the less important is 0.25. Got it. And secondly, on the price cost expectations, could you say where your OCC cost expectation now is versus where you had it in January and what kind of market conditions inform that? And we're hearing some constructive commentary around the URB list price increase, although it's not yet reflected in the index.

Does the guide assume any incremental benefit there and if so how much really usually it's not reflected on must pass through but but just curious your thoughts or any color you have there thank you again yeah what we assumed in our original guide was uh was an average OCC of around of a hundred dollars uh obviously it was it was around 80 85 in in the first quarter we expected to be that similar in in the second and we're expecting it to average somewhere between 90 and 95 in the uh in the second half of the year thanks jerry and on the uh urb price

yeah the urb price has been uh um you're right pretty unique uh against all paper grades we're running in probably 92 to 93 percent uh utilization rates right now we're seeing strong yield on uh against the $70 increase in the market. So I would be extremely disappointed if the appropriate indices did not pick that up at their next go-round.

All right, Jerry. Thank you again.

Your next question comes from a line of Gabe Hodge from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Good morning, team. I had a question, maybe a point of clarification. I apologize. It's a busy morning. As you talk about consumer volumes in aggregate on an organic basis, question number one. And question number two, Howard, you threw out a bunch of numbers for the metal food business. And so maybe if we could break it down, North America versus Europe and organic. You talked about some pretty big numbers. I think double-digit growth in the North American metal business. um it's it's quite a bit better than what we saw for the industry data uh maybe suggesting um you guys are winning some business there can you talk about that and would it be your view um that customers are trying to buy ahead of any potential price increases um in material costs and again i I apologize for that, if you covered that.

No problem, Gabe. You know, we're looking at consumer, from an organic perspective, about 4% up for the first quarter in total. That's excluding acquisitions. On the metal side of the business, in terms of breaking down further, North America, I've got that kind of details, less so on Europe. But North America, we saw about 10% improvement in food and about a 25%. And keep in mind, about a third of our business is aerosol. Aerosol has recovered nicely, up about 25%. And then what I also noted was that when you look at units, and we've got some work to do in terms of how we report this stuff, but we've got metal ends that go to a select customer, legacy Tenoco customer. There's been some drawdowns that we expect that we'll recover. So that's what brought the total. The math doesn't work. If 10% of your food can's up, 25% of your aerosol, but you're 10% up in total, it's because of low-value metal ends are calculated in that number. we'll work on on that going forward um europe uh really it's one discreet market um a seasonal market that hasn't kicked in the six seven percent is the fish market and it normally doesn't really start taking off till now or through up up until early june or so so we're expecting to see that turn here in the very near future and other than that most of the other markets were exactly where we expected them to be unless roger you got other commentary to it nope that's right so in terms of pre-buy uh no um not seeing any activity there um you know saying i mean there could be an isolated case but uh no as we talk to our customers going in as we're rolling into the second quarter it's um you know very encouraging in terms of uh what the volume profile looks like, particularly here in North America, but it's not pulled forward.

Okay. So to be clear, I guess, adjusting for the end sales, which seems like it should balance out over the course of the year, you would expect pretty darn strong volumes in aerosol and food cans also to be up for the full year in North America.

Correct.

Okay. And then a point of clarification, I think, Jerry, you mentioned embedded in the guidance. You talked about getting early realization on the URB price increase, but you'd expect that to flow through in the back half of the year. A, is that in fact what you said? And B, quantification of what that benefit would look like in the second half?

Yeah, let me answer that in a two-part way. The increase is going well in the marketplace, but you've got to realize that about 80% of the business is really tied to contracts, and some of those contracts reset based off the timing of when the TAN bending chip moved, which is what the majority of those contracted customers are on. So that's why we expect the benefit to mostly occur in the second half of the year, just depending on the timing of when the TAN Mending Chip Index move. It has not reflected the open market increase as we speak today, but we do expect that to happen in the coming month or two. In terms of the impact, as we previously stated, it's tough to say how much the TAN Mending Chip Index will move, but what I would say is that with each $10 move in that index typically represents about, you know, an incremental $6 billion a year on an annualized basis of revenue.

Perfect. Super helpful. Thank you.

And that concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Roger Shrum for closing remarks.

Certainly appreciate everybody participating in today's call. I know you've had a very busy day. If you've got follow-up questions, please don't hesitate to give me a call at your convenience.

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