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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Colby, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome you to the CubeSmart 3rd Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise, and after the speakers have marks, there will be a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question at that time, please press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question at any time, please press star one again. I'll now turn the call over to Josh Schitzer, Vice President of Finance.
Josh Schitzer, Vice President of Finance Thank you, Colby. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Cubismar's third quarter 2025 earnings call. Participants on today's call include Chris Marr, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Tim Martin, Chief Financial Officer. Our prepared remarks will be followed by a Q&A session. In addition to our earnings release, which was issued yesterday evening, supplemental financial data is available under the Investor Relations section of the company's website at www.cubesmart.com. The company's remarks will include certain forward-looking statements regarding earnings and strategy that involve risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause the actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. The risks and factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements are provided in documents the company furnishes to or files with the securities exchange commission specifically the form 8k we filed this morning together with our earnings release filed with the form 8k and the risk factors section in the company's annual report on form 10k in addition the company's remarks include reference to non-gap measures the reconciliation between gap and non-gap measures can be found in the third quarter financial supplement posted on the company's website at www.cubesmart.com i'll now turn the call over to Chris.
Thank you, Josh. Happy Halloween, and welcome everyone to our third quarter calls. It was a very solid third quarter for Cube, which resulted in guidance increases across our key same-store and earnings metrics. Across all markets, our existing customer KPIs remain strong with key credit and attrition metrics remaining consistent within historical normal ranges we are continuing to feel diminishing headwinds from new supply as the stores placed in service over the last three years lease up and the forward pipeline continues shrinking as evident by two consecutive quarters of improved guidance expectations The year has played out a bit better than we expected, which we attribute to the lessening impact of new supply, a more constructive pricing environment during our busy rental season, and the continued health of the consumer. We foresee continued gradual improvement in operational metrics. We are not anticipating a catalyst for a sharp reacceleration. We are prepared and operating under the expectation that the stabilizing trends, as well as deliveries of new stores, will vary by market. Market-level performance was similar to what we have been discussing for the last couple of quarters. Top performers continue to be the more urban, mid-Atlantic, and northeast markets. markets, the east coast of Florida is experiencing stabilizing trends, and some of the Sun Belt markets are still finding their footing. In summary, it's a slow, steady stabilization without a catalyst for rapid acceleration, just like we laid out when we entered the year. We've seen some better pricing power that started earlier in the year for the reasons i've previously shared while overall demand levels are mostly stable but not growing significantly it takes time for improving fundamentals to flow through to revenue with only four to five percent monthly customer churn and this was the first quarter since q1 2022 where move-in rates in the same store portfolio were positive year over year assuming these stabilizing trends continue through the end of the year, we should be on improved footing heading into 2026. Now I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Tim Martin, for his commentary.
Thanks, Chris. Good morning and thank you to everyone for taking the time to join us today. For the quarter, we performed in line with our expectations, recording FFO per share is adjusted of 65 cents. Same-store revenues declined 1% compared to last year with average occupancy for our same-store portfolio down 80 basis points to 89.9 percent same store operating expenses grew just 0.3 percent over last year again reflecting our keen focus on expense control we saw favorable year-over-year variances in utilities expenses and in property insurance following our successful renewal back in may which we discussed last quarter so negative one percent revenue growth combined with 0.3 expense growth yielded negative 1.5 percent same store NOI growth for the quarter From an external growth perspective, we're starting to see a little momentum here late in the year as we're under contract to acquire three stores in the fourth quarter. We also completed and opened our joint venture development in Port Chester, New York during the quarter and are scheduled to open our project in New Rochelle, New York during the fourth quarter. On the third-party management front, we had another productive quarter adding 46 stores to our platform, bringing us to 863 stores under management at quarter end. On the balance sheet, we successfully completed our issuance of $450 million of 10-year senior unsecured notes on August 20th. The offering has a yield of maturity of 5.29% and was our first time back to the market in four years. We were delighted with the execution and delighted with the support we received from our fixed income investor base. Our 2025 notes mature later this month and we intend to satisfy those initially through borrowings under our unsecured credit facility and then ultimately term that out by accessing the bond market again in the coming months. Our leverage levels remain quite conservative with net debt to EBITDA at 4.7 times at quarter end. From a guidance perspective, we updated our full-year expectations and underlying assumptions in our press release last evening. Highlights of the guidance changes include a penny raise at the midpoint of our FFO per share is adjusted. On same-store revenue growth, we improved the midpoint of our guidance range. Our expense growth guidance range improved as well, with a revised midpoint of 1.5% for the year. All of that translates into improved same-story NOI expectations for the year, with a revised midpoint of negative 1.25%. Picking up on Chris's comments, we expect trends to continue to stabilize through the remainder of the year, putting us on better footing heading into 2026 than where we entered this year. Our guidance implies negative revenue growth in Q4, although acceleration from Q3 at the midpoint. While we're still not anticipating things snapping all the way back to normalized levels of growth quickly, we're seeing encouraging signs that are starting to flow through the portfolio. Thanks again for joining us on the call this morning. Happy Halloween. And at this time, Colby, let's open up the call for some questions.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star to the number one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and enter the queue. If you'd like to withdraw your question at any time, simply press star one again. Thank you. Your first line, your first question comes from the line of Samir Kunal with Bank of America. Your line is open.
Yeah, good morning, everybody. Hey, Chris, I guess just how are you thinking about the balance between rate and occupancy right now in an environment where demand seems to be stable as you try to get that new customer in the door? Thanks.
So ultimately, the systems are focusing in on maximizing the revenue from each customer and so trying to find that balance. And it varies by market. So when you think about when you think about those two levers, rate and occupancy, you have the elasticity of demand that one has to deal with. And so when we look at those markets that we would describe as having been solid for a while, kind of the rock stars in this part of the cycle, where you're getting both rate and occupancy. I call out New York City, Washington, D.C., MSA, Chicago. Then you have those markets that are stabilizing, you know, so their rate and occupancy are moving in a good direction, albeit, you know, still perhaps down year over year. And, you know, those examples would be Miami and L.A., Los Angeles. And then those markets that are still trying to find their footing where, again, the systems every day are trying to navigate through that dynamic of new move in customer rate versus occupancy and testing is the demand there at any price. And those would be the same markets we've talked about all year, Atlanta, Phoenix, Cape Carl, Charlotte, you know, the Sunbelt market. So, really varies quite a lot by market as the systems try to find that balance.
And maybe as a follow-up here, I know you talked about move-in rates that were positive in the quarter, kind of two and a half percent, you know, better on rate versus occupancy.
I mean, can you provide some color around October as well what you're seeing kind of trends in October thanks yeah so the occupancy gap to last year has contracted from the end of the third quarter as of yesterday we're down a hundred basis points from from where we were at this point last year and the average rent on rentals that that two and a half that you quoted for the quarter in October is kind of in that 1.92% kind of range.
Thanks a lot.
Your next question comes from the line of Nicholas Ulico from Scotiabank. The line is open.
This is Victor Fediwan with Nick Ulico. On your last call, you said that most demand still comes from traditional search and you're working with your partners or Gemini integration. So what percentage of leads and bookings are now AI-influenced today, and how does overall the cost per AI leads compare to traditional search engine leads so far?
Yeah, the leads coming through the LLMs, which is primarily chat-deep GPT, at this point for us are about less than 1%.
Got it.
And then you also mentioned last call that the merchant builder exit wave is kind of coming to the market and just trying to understand whether it has intensified recently and what does it mean for you and kind of for your potential acquisition pool?
I'm sorry. I think we got a little bit more clarity on the question, if we could. Merchant builder sellers?
Yeah, yeah, sellers, yeah. Whether you can see now more of them or not really versus, for example, Q2.
Yeah, no, I haven't really seen a change. You know, again, there's no and there typically isn't like significant duress in our sector. And so I think what you have is, you know, folks who may have opened a store in 2022 where they were underwriting cash flows based on the spectacular storage performance during COVID are clearly not meeting their pro formas. But I think what we're finding is everyone's just looking for ways to extend out and anticipate stabilizing trends and better times ahead.
And financial institutions for the most part are cooperating about it thank you thanks your next question comes from Todd Thomas with key bank your line is open hi thanks good morning Chris Tim your your comments about the improving trends and third quarter being the first period of higher moving rents and seems like that continued in October your guidance assumes an improving revenue growth trend in 4q albeit still negative you mentioned that um but just your comments overall you know suggesting that that trend of uh improving revenue growth do you know early sort of read into 26 is it fair to assume that you would expect all else equal that that trend to continue from here just given the four to five percent churn and and the time it takes for that to translate to to revenue growth? Is that how you're thinking about it at this point in the cycle?
As you think about 26 macro, again, assuming that consumer health remains where it is, the economy continues to do okay, we would anticipate that the trend from Q3 to Q4, and Again, we talked about in Q2 that Q3 had a little bit of an anomaly and that was going to create that decel from the prior quarter. But, yeah, that trend should continue. Again, do we inflect positive in same-store revenue growth as we sit here today? Yes. When might that occur? You know, again, as we sit here today, I would I would conservatively expect that's probably the back half of 2026.
OK. And then, you know, some of your peers, I think, Ren, you know, promotions are implemented, newer discounting strategies during the quarter. I was just wondering if you can speak to whether, you know, whether Cube participated or what discounting strategies might have been implemented during the peak season and how you're thinking about pricing, you know, promotions and discounting in the off-peak season as, you know, occupancy typically pulls back a bit here.
Yeah. So, I guess there was some new vernacular introduced recently with this gross net kind of concept. The 2.5% gross move-in rate year-over-year growth that we saw is, for us, it is also the net. We have not had any change in our discounting.
Okay. Are you changing your promotional offerings, though, or changing your discount strategies at all? Okay. All right. Thank you.
Thanks, Todd. Your next question comes in the line of Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Good morning. Thanks for the time. Just on the acquisition side, a couple of your peers have become more aggressive, talk about more opportunities or deal flow. Just curious what you're seeing and or willingness or appetite to increase the external investments?
Thanks, Juan. Appreciate the question. I guess we have three stores under contract, so that's movement in the right direction. I think what we have seen and we've talked about here for the past several quarters is pretty consistent view from the buying side of the table as to what return thresholds look like. I don't think that's changed much at all. It hasn't for us. I don't think it's changed much for others either. I think the change is that the the seller side of the equation has gotten a little bit more constructive from the buyer's perspective. And you're starting to see things move a little bit. I think you saw that from some of our peers. I think you see that from us with the three stores that we have under contract.
So nothing, I wouldn't say there's any earth shattering move other than, you know, the market becomes a little bit more constructive as the gap between buyer and seller has shrunk to the point where you're starting to see some things get done thanks and then just as a follow-up your rent for occupied square foot was strong in the quarter up 2.4 percent quarter over quarter flat year over year better than peers what do you think allowed you to push that in place rate relative to the industry if it's stronger yeah i think again you're you're just everybody's system, I assume, is trying to do the same thing, which is find that balance
between the levels of demand that are out there for storage and then pricing to capture that customer as well as the marketing tools to capture that customer. I think some of it is portfolio construct, again, where we are at this part of the cycle. Our strategy and our quality focus, I think, is very helpful to our results. And then part of it actually is just the normal seasonality that one would expect to see from Q2 into Q3.
Your next question comes on the line of eric wolf with city the line is open hey thanks for taking my questions um i think you said a moment ago that um that conservatively that that same store revenue might not turn positive until the back half of 2026 but i mean if you're already at you know two to three percent um you know moving rate growth is there some reason to believe that that stays there that you wouldn't just go to like two to three percent same store revenue growth is there some kind of offset on the ECRI? I'm just trying to understand why, you know, if you're already, I call it positive move-in rent today, that it's going to take until the back half of 2026 to be positive on same-store revenue.
Yeah, I mean, it's not sarcastically, it's math. So we are, you know, in a business where four to five percent of our existing customers churn on a monthly basis. And so, barring, again, some sort of change to the good on the demand side, again, which we don't foresee a catalyst for that, it just takes time. So, you will just gradually see that slightly negative same-store revenue growth begin to move in a positive direction and you know exactly when that crossover occurs uh you know we're not providing guidance at this point and we don't do quarterly guidance from a same store perspective but you know again i think to be fair at this point in uh october 31st you know what i what i shared is kind of the conservative outlook at home got it and then i guess to the move in rents um that you provide in this up?
I mean, does that include promotions? I'm probably asking because I'm just thinking through like if we continue to see just positive move in rent growth, like I don't know, say 2% to 3% or 2% to 4%, does that eventually translate into kind of 2% to 4% same-store revenue growth? I know occupancy obviously plays a factor to your point, but I guess I'm just wondering about the, you know, if you can really just kind of take these move in rent growth and then assume you're going to get a similar ECRI component to it and take that as a leading indicator of where same-store revenue growth is going or, you know, we're mistakenly not including promotions or not including something else into that calculation.
I'll jump in. If you think about your premise there of 2% to 3%, 2% to 4% type year-over-year improvement in pricing, and you held everything else constant, then ultimately after, you know, call it 12 months, when you've churned 5% of your portfolio each month at that type of churn, then eventually that's where you would get to. And then it would probably be helped a little bit then by some of those other factors. You probably get a little bit more out of your ECRIs. You probably get a little bit of occupancy if you're in that environment. If you have that type of pricing power, normal pricing power over a prolonged period of time so you know back to chris's point earlier here is it just takes time to flow through because it's it's four to five percent a month and it builds and builds and builds so you know if you had that for a prolonged period of time i think that's that's ultimately where you get to from a revenue growth perspective plus or minus thanks and then does the moving rent include um promotions um or is that like a separate calculation we we should make meaning that that's up i think was up like mid twos this this quarter is that that flat with promotion yeah so that two and a half percent is gross and it for us is the same as the net because
our promotions have not changed the amount or the magnitude thank you thanks your next question comes from the line of Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI.
The line is open.
Great, thanks. Chris, maybe you can expand a bit on whether or not you've seen any changes in new customer behavior. I mean, it seems like if you're able to raise these new customer rents, maybe there's less price sensitivity or customer shopping around. And I know it's always a topical point with storage, but any incremental homebuyer customers coming back? Or is it still, you know, they haven't really materialized yet?
Yeah, I think what you're finding is you're just able to get rate in, you know, these markets that are not typically the home buyer and seller movement markets. So, you know, you're leading year-over-year improvement and rate to new customers, Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and then the laggards where you're just still trying to find your footing in terms of where is that back and at what rate can you get that customer to convert continue to be, you know, Atlanta, Phoenix, Charlotte, some in Texas, some of the major Texas markets are moving in that direction as well. So it really is just a market from our perspective, which then sort of ties into your question, which is it's, you know, customer use case.
Thanks. Appreciate the context.
Yeah, I'm sorry. One last piece. And then ultimately it's You know, when we talk about supply and those headwinds are diminishing across the portfolio, but that also varies pretty significantly by market. So not surprising those Sunbelt markets that, you know, a tended to rely historically on a little bit more of that home buyer and seller are also the markets that continue to get deliveries while deliveries overall are down. You know, they are still occurring all too frequently in Atlanta, in Phoenix, you know, in the west coast of Florida.
So it's kind of a double whammy for those Sunbelt markets, so to say. Great. And then maybe next, just on sort of the ECRIs and outlook there. I mean, I realize that the, you know, rent roll downs, the move in to move out is still pretty wide. But has your strategy changed it there at all? Have, you know, customers become more sensitive to rate increases or are they typically still willing to accept them and you're able to push, you know, strategically where you can?
Yeah, the customer health, which we continue to really focus in on, and again, varies by economic strata and parts of the country, generally across the portfolio continues to be very good. And we have not seen any change in customer behavior as it relates to ECRIs. And our overall approach has been consistent throughout 2025. Great.
That's it for me. Thanks for the time.
Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Rami Vaida with Mizuho. Your line's open.
Hi there. Good morning. I hope you guys are doing well. I wanted to ask for the third-party management business. I saw a couple of stores came off on a net basis. Is there something that looking ahead should be expected to increase again? Or maybe who are some of the new private operators that you're partnering with, and how can that be used as a hedge for higher supply?
Yeah, I appreciate the question. So on our third-party management program, we talk about the stores that we add to the platform because that's ultimately what we control. That's our new business development team is looking for opportunities to add owners, to add stores to the platform. This year, we have exceeded adding 130 stores for the eighth consecutive, at least 130 stores a year for the eighth consecutive year. So that part of the business remains healthy. the part that is very difficult to predict is when stores are going to leave the platform. And, you know, part of this year, when you have that churn, part of this year's churn was self-inflicted earlier in the year when we bought 28 stores that were in that third-party managed bucket. You just have a lot of stores that leave the platform most often. That is because they have transacted, they have sold to somebody that either self-manages or has a different relationship. And so, you know, trying to predict the net growth in the store count on the 3 p.m. platform is an impossible task. So, we control what we can control. And we, you know, when stores leave the platform, we've talked about in the past, we feel like it's job well done. We've, you know, we've helped that owner create the value. We've stabilized and improve performance and in most cases we set them up to achieve their desired results as they transact and sell the asset to someone else.
That's helpful. Thank you. Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Spencer Klimcher from Green Street. Your line is open.
Yeah, thank you. Maybe just going back to the acquisition front, are there certain markets or geographies that you guys are more comfortable underwriting just due to greater stabilization of fundamentals? And then on the flip side, are there any markets that are sort of redlined right now just because there's still too much operational uncertainty, maybe outside of the obvious supply heavy markets?
Yeah. I mean, just the nuanced response is we're comfortable underwriting everywhere. I think embedded in our underwriting are obviously going to be different risk return, you know, risk hurdles based on some of those characteristics that you would refer to, perhaps the best deal that we can find right now would be in a market that's more challenged because, you know, others don't see maybe what we see. And so we don't have a bias necessarily to, you know, to blacklist a particular market because of supply as an example or some other criteria. But what we would do in that standpoint is to make sure that from a risk-adjusted standpoint, we're getting paid to, you know, to take on that uncertainty. So those markets create more challenge from an underwriting standpoint to try to, you know, look at where rates are today, perhaps, and where rates might be in a year or two. It is a challenging but not impossible underwrite when you have a store in particular, because it's such a micro market business. when you have a store that's competing against new supply to be able to have confidence in your ability to project where rates in that small market are going to stabilize once that new supply leases up is a challenge. It's the fun part of the investments team and what they do because those deals that have a little bit of hair on them are the most challenging but also very interesting and perhaps the place that you can make a really nice risk-adjusted return. So So we're not avoiding markets, but certainly considering all of those risk factors.
Okay, yeah, that's very helpful. And then can you just share what stabilized cap rates you guys are underwriting on the three assets you're firing in 4Q?
Yeah, those three assets are a little bit of a mixed bag between stable and not stable. Going in, when you look across the three, we're going in in the low fives and stabilizing across the board fairly early on in year two or three. um at uh right around a six across the board for those three opportunities okay thank you so much thank you your next question comes from brendan lynch from barclays your line is open great thank you for taking my question um new york city continues to perform quite well um and it continues to outperform other uh large markets in the northeast Maybe you can just kind of compare and contrast what is leading to that outperformance.
Obviously, there's a lot of supply issues in the Sun Belt. Maybe it's the same in the Northeast, but just kind of any color that you can provide on New York relative to some of these other markets in the region.
Yep. So it's going to be partly what you just said. So, again, the boroughs, really nonexistent new supply impacts. So you're really stable from that perspective. You have a more need-based customer. And then obviously we have a very significant position there and one in which the asset quality is extremely high. So we just have everything in our favor in a market that in this part of the cycle is is just doing very well. Other Northeast, Philadelphia, Boston, a little bit of a mixture there. You've got supply as opposed to the boroughs, and you have a little bit more of a mix in the customer base. It's not quite Sunbelt-like, but you do have a little bit more of that, you know, mover, so to speak, than you might have in, say, the Bronx. So, I think it's kind of a combination of those two things. And you see, you know, that similarly in, you know, urban Chicago, you see it in, you know, a few of the other urban markets.
Great. Thanks, Chris. And And then maybe just sticking with New York City, you've got the new development coming there. It's a relatively small investment. I think it's $19 million. Maybe just talk about what would allow you to get more assertive or aggressive on development in the New York City area.
It's really looking for opportunities that are located in a spot that would be complementary to our existing portfolio and frankly would have a need from a demand standpoint for there to be a new product. Obviously, it's not as easy to pencil out deals in the boroughs as it used to be because the tax incentives aren't there any longer. So surely there are opportunities somewhere. But the fruit is pretty high up in the tree. And, you know, for us to find an opportunity, it's going to be something that we're pretty excited about. Great. Next time. Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Eric Luchow from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Thanks for the question. Can you comment a little bit on any trends you're seeing on your average length of stay? It seems like vacates have been kind of muted across the industry this year. Obviously, it helps from a roll-down perspective, but perhaps takes a little bit longer for some of these better moving rates to flow through the portfolio.
So, any commentary on that would be helpful. sure when you think about uh those trends i would macro say they're consistent you know still elevated so our customers who have been with us greater than a year uh that's up 50 basis points year over year and again if you kind of compare it to pre-covered so third quarter of 2019 it's plus 260 basis points and then those customers who have been with us greater than two years uh which is about 40 percent of our customers that's actually down year over year about 140 basis points but again up 50 basis points what we saw uh in 3q19 so continue to be pretty consistent have come down a bit off of peak but uh but still elevated relative to historical metrics.
I appreciate that. And I know you provided a little bit of directional commentary on 26, but just trying to take, you know, maybe more of the bull case. Obviously, if we get a, you know, a housing catalyst, if we see a pickup in customer mobility, moving rates, you know, continue to find stability, start growing. Do you think it's reasonable we could get back to more historical levels of growth by, you know, maybe the second half of next year, certainly into 2027, and then potentially even higher, you know, beyond that, especially given some of the supply delivery commentary. Just wanted to get your temperature on, you know, what you see over the next few years and not just into 26.
Yeah, I do see that bull case as playing out the way you described. Again, it's sort of finding that catalyst for uh for demand uh and if that occurs you know housing being the easiest thing to point at uh we continue to have a healthy consumer um i think you then start to see uh consistent performance from those solid markets that we've uh you know that we've experienced here over the last couple of quarters, those steady eddies continue. And then you're overall helped by the fact that the Charlottes and the Nashvilles, et cetera, of the world should rebound quite nicely. And I think we're well positioned from, you know, obviously to get the rate. We've shown that we can do that through this cycle, you know, increasingly more so over the last couple of months and then you know on the on the occupancy side then you get the pickup there as well and you know to your point you could see uh and i would expect if those conditions were to occur you would see um more elevated performance okay i appreciate it thanks guys yeah your next question comes on the line of michael mueller with jp morgan your line is open yeah hi i just go back to like development supply i mean what's your gut feeling tell you about how
quickly supply may come back in some of the markets um as they improve over the next couple of years i mean do you see a lot of competitive projects in near you where people are just kind of waiting for the right time to kick off or do you think you're going to have a little bit longer of a runway without meaningful supply?
I think that crystal ball's complicated and maybe a little fuzzy. So I think it will be slower. I think that you have a couple of factors. Again, we still have elevated cost. I think it will, to our point, be a more gradual recovery and move-in rate. So you'll still have to see some progress there. And I think the developers, again, who have, you know, opened in 22 and are sort of trying to figure out how to hang on at this point, you know, may not be likely to want to get back into it again until they deal with, you know, exiting the store that they have. And then ultimately, you know, the primary lenders to the space for the developers, those local and regional banks have to be, you know, if they can to be constructive in terms of how they think about underwriting and how they think about providing that leverage, I think that should constrain things as well. So, you know, again, at least you look out through next year, probably at least the first half of 27, I think, you know, we'll continue to see some restraint. Again, there are the markets I've called out that appear to have no guardrails, but I think we'll continue to see some constraint. And then if you just think practically if it picks back up again, you know, it takes six months to sort of get everything going and then another 12 months to build. So you're, you know, 18 months out from whenever that happens.
Got it. Okay. Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Michael Goldsmith with the UBS. Your line is open.
Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my questions. Move-in rate was up two and a half percent during the quarter, apparently both on growth and the net basis but came down in October so how did the move-in trend during the quarter did it peak in October or did it peak kind of earlier than during the period and is that how it normally uh plays out thanks yeah move-in trend um was historically normal you see kind of that peak in July, and then trends tend to sequentially start to slow down.
But again, I think the message here is that the road is a bit windy. We've got markets that are continuing to move in a fairly straight line in an upward trajectory, and then there are markets, again, pick on the sunbelt, where the road's a little bit more windy. So overall, I would say kind of consistent with the last couple of years is what we've seen.
Got it. And you've said on the call maybe a couple of times, but just really stabilizing trends and encouraging signs. By stabilizing trends, are you referring to same-store revenue growth?
And by encouraging signs, you're suggesting the moving rate is that is that kind of what you're pointing to yeah so again the the top line metric same store revenue growth we're just going to beat the drum again it takes time for that to move given the uh you know the relatively low churn in the customer base so when we talk about stabilizing trends we're talking about move-in rates and you know demand levels which again have been weaker than historical but fairly consistent and uh uh and occupancy so it's more of the you know the kpis that are happening every day which will then gradually bleed into the same store revenue result which will then gradually move that in a positive direction thank you very much port chester looks great uh good luck in the fourth quarter thank you super excited about We have units available if you'd like to be.
I'm good, but thanks.
Thank you. And with no further questions in queue, I'd like to turn the conference back over to Chris Marr for closing remarks.
Okay. Thank you, everybody, for participating. Again, stabilizing trends encouraged by the direction overall that the portfolio is moving. Assuming these continue, we expect to be on improved footing heading into 2026. We look forward to seeing some of you at upcoming conferences, and next time we're on a quarterly call we'll share our specific expectations for 2026. So thank you all. Happy Halloween.
This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
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