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Well, good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Revolve's second quarter 2025 results conference call. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this time, simply press star one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, it's star one again. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Eric Randerson, Vice President of Investor Relations at Revolve. Eric, you may begin.
Good afternoon, everyone and thanks for joining us to discuss revolve second quarter 2025 results before we begin i'd like to mention that we have posted a presentation containing q2 2025 financial highlights to our investor relations website located at investors.revolve.com i'd also like to remind you that this conference call will include forward-looking statements including statements related to our future growth our inventory balance our key priorities and business initiatives industry trends the impact of tariffs and our mitigation efforts on marketing events and their expected impact our physical retail stores and our outlook for net sales gross margin operating expenses and effective tax rates these statements are subject to various risks uncertainties and assumptions that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements including the risk mentioned in the snap news press release as well as other risks and uncertainties disclosed under the caption risk factors and elsewhere in our filings with the securities exchange commission including without limitation our annual report on form 10k for the year ended december 31 2024 and our subsequent quarterly reports on form 10q all of which can be found on our website at investors.revolve.com we undertake no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements or information except as required by law during our call today we'll also reference certain non-gap financial information including adjusted ebitda and free cash flow we use non-gap measures in some of our financial discussions as we believe they provide valuable insights on our operational performance and underlying operating results the presentation of this non-GAAP financial information is not intended to be considered in isolation or a substitute for or superior to the financial information presented and prepared in accordance with GAAP and our non-GAAP measures may be different from non-GAAP measures used by other companies reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures as well as the definitions of each measure their limitations and our rationale for using them can be found in this afternoon's press release in our SEC filings. Joining me on the call today are our co-founders and co-CEOs Mike Karnicolas and Michael Mente, as well as Jesse Timmermans, our CFO. Following our prepared remarks, we'll open the call for your questions. With that, I'll turn it over to Mike.
Hello, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. Outstanding execution by our team within an incredibly dynamic operating environment led to strong second quarter results in continued market share gains. Our net sales increased to 9% year-over-year, outpaced by adjusted EBITDA, increasing 12% year-over-year, as we delivered our highest adjusted EBITDA margin in three years, despite pressure from increased tariff rates. Improved inventory dynamics and our tariff mitigation efforts drove a slight expansion of our gross margin year-over-year, as well as healthy cash flow generation. In fact, In fact, our $52 million in free cash flow generated during the first six months of 2025 is nearly three times the free cash flow we achieved for the full year in 2024. Looking beyond the numbers, I'm excited by the underlying drivers of our strong results that illustrate great progress in key areas of investment for long-term success. Our customer base continues to increase, and on average, we are generating more revenue per active customer helped by a lower return rate year-over-year in our successful efforts to capture a greater share of the consumer's wallet. I'm also thrilled with our momentum and expansion within international markets and by the increasing mix of owned brands as a percentage of revolved segment net sales that is accretive to our markets. With that as an introduction, I'll step back and provide a brief recap of our Q2 results before reviewing the progress on our longer-term initiatives. Starting with Q2 results, as discussed on our Q1 earnings call, net sales for the second quarter of 2025 had a slow start, coinciding with the peak tariff uncertainty in April and historically low consumer sentiment. Encouragingly, our net sales growth rebounded strongly from mid-single digits in April 2025 into the low double-digit growth territory for the months of May and June. All told, net sales for the full second quarter increased to 9% year-over-year, driven by domestic and international net sales increases of 7% and 17% year-over-year, respectively. By segment, Revolve net sales increased 9%, and forward net sales increased 10% year-over-year within a global luxury market that declined year-over-year in the first quarter, according to research from Bain-Aldegamina. The underlying forward metrics are very encouraging, further validating the efficacy of our forward investments over the past several quarters to capitalize on opportunities created by all the challenges among other luxury retailers. The biggest source of upside for the second quarter relative to expectations was our gross margin performance. Despite the tariff pressures we discussed at length last quarter, we delivered a slight increase in consolidated gross margin year over year, significantly outperforming our guidance. Key contributors to our gross margin outperformance in Q2 were continued penetration growth for our own brand offerings, which generate higher margins than third-party brands. The team's outstanding work on tariff mitigation relative to our prior assumptions, as well as the successful testing and rollout of enhancements to our markdown algorithms that drove meaningful improvements in the depth of markdowns in the second quarter relative to our recent performance on these metrics. Speaking of tariff mitigation, while there is still a level of uncertainty thus far, we have been able to successfully mitigate a significant majority of the tariff impacts. Importantly, the severity and abruptness of the tariff served as a catalyst for mitigation efforts that should be favorable to our long-term margin structure, which is exciting. Shifting to our bottom line results, our operating discipline allowed us to achieve a 10% increase in operating income and a 12% increase in adjusted EBITDA year-over-year, outpacing our net sales growth of 9% year-over-year. In addition to our top-line growth and increased gross profit we discussed, contributing to our profitability gains were our successful efforts to drive efficiencies in our global logistics operations. Notably, our product return rate decreased by more than one and a half points year over year in the quarter, helping us to achieve nearly 60 basis points of leverage in our variable cost line items of selling and distribution and fulfillment. Most exciting is that our profitable growth once again converted very strongly to cash flow generation that serves as a key competitive advantage. It was our best second quarter performance for cash flow generation in four years, helped by meaningfully improved inventory dynamics. As an illustration of our improved efficiency, our net sales increased to 9% year-over-year, while our inventory balance declined 6% year-over-year. Notably, for the first half of 2025, our free cash flow generation exceeded our adjusted EBITDA profitability by $10 million. As a result, cash and equivalents grew to an all-time high of $311 million as of June 30th, an increase of 27% year-over-year. Now, I'll conclude by recapping our exciting progress against our strategic priorities and growth vectors over the past few months. We have a lot of exciting initiatives in play, and our team is doing an excellent job executing on the set of initiatives that we believe can deliver value for shareholders over the long term. First, we continue to efficiently invest to expand our brand awareness, grow our customer base, and strengthen our connection with the next-generation consumer. We had an extremely active and impactful second quarter for brand marketing, featuring marquee events such as Revolve Festival, Revolve in the Hamptons, and more that Michael will talk about in his remarks. Second, we continue to successfully expand our international penetration, highlighted, by 17% growth outside of the U.S. in the second quarter. Net sales increased across nearly all regions, including China, which has become one of the top contributors for our Revolve segment. In fact, our Revolve segment sales in mainland China have more than doubled over the past two years after we invested in a team dedicated to the China market. Their efforts have helped us to capitalize on exciting opportunities, including through successful marketplace partnerships that have fueled our growth acceleration. Revolve was recently named the number one cross-border store on the Tmall global marketplace within the apparel category, and we recently launched a dedicated Revolve man store on the Tmall marketplace to further expand our reach. Our international results underscore our traction and the attractive growth opportunity overseas that is several times larger than the U.S. market. Third, we have continued to build on the successful expansion of our assortment to gain a greater share of consumer spending. Sales of fashion apparel, beauty, men's, and home products each increased by a healthy double-digit percentage year-over-year contributing to our reduced return rate and increased revenue per active customer year-over-year. This success expanding beyond our historical core further validates our opportunity to drive customer acquisition and expand our share of wallet among our loyal existing customers who trust in our brands and delight in our premium shopping experience. Finally, we are continuing to leverage AI to drive growth and efficiency initiatives across the company, including to refine our shopping experience and personalization capabilities. Building on our successful recent launch of internally developed AI search algorithms for consumer product discovery on our e-commerce sites, during the second quarter we tested and launched into production enhancements to our AI search algorithms that are delivering great results, including a meaningful lift and conversion rate for search queries on our Revolve site. This exciting innovation by our data science team is driving incremental conversion gains on top of the incredible lift in performance that we achieved last year by replacing third-party search technology with our internally developed AI search algorithms for on-site search. To wrap up, I'm very proud of the team for delivering such strong second quarter results and great progress on longer-term initiatives that are critical building blocks for continued profitable growth over the long term particularly in such an uncertain environment i'd like to thank our team for your incredible agility innovation and commitment that has helped us to navigate through all the tariff uncertainty while remaining focused on delivering excellence for our customers every day with our talented team powerful brands operational excellence data-driven mindset and proprietary technology infrastructure i'm confident that we have the ingredients to power of profitable growth and further market share gains in 2025 and beyond. Now, over to Michael.
Thanks, Mike, and hello, everyone. The core competitive advantages we have built over the last 20 years continue to set us apart, and together with our strong team, enable us to deliver strong results and market share gains in the second quarter, demonstrating our ability to navigate through this volatile period with huge changes in the effective tarot rates from day to day. Even in such a dynamic environment in 2025, with wildfires, tariffs, and macro uncertainty, in the first half of the year, our revenue increased 10%, our adjusted EBITDA increased 25%, and our free cash flow was more than five times higher year over year. With that as an introduction, I will focus my remarks on some of the strategic areas we are investing in and that we are especially excited about. Brand investments, merchandising, forward momentum within the luxury industry, expansion of own brands, and physical retail exploration. First, brand building. Our brand-elevating Revolve Festival, held in April, set the tone for the second quarter by delivering significantly greater marketing impact on reduced spending year-over-year. Aspirational content from Revolve Festival in the Coachella Valley dominated social media feeds during the one-week period around our events. But we didn't stop there. We had a very active second quarter for brand building, exciting and delighting our passionate community of consumers, brands, content creators, and partners by hosting impactful events in New York, Miami, the Hamptons, and at Sagecoach Festival in California. Particularly exciting was our multi-week activation in the Hamptons. We engaged our community with revolved summer activations attended by numerous A-listers, co-hosted the vibrant Palm Street Music Festival, and hosted an experiential pop-up shop in partnership with Revell that remains open through Labor Day. All told, it was our most efficient second quarter for brand building in four years, based on the estimated value of impressions generated by our brand marketing investments. Second, merchandising. A key highlight from Q2 was our strong cash flow generation, which benefited from higher inventory returns year over year. In fact, we achieved the highest second quarter inventory returns ratio for full price merchandise that will evolve in four years. The underlying drivers are exciting as well. Our vastly improved merchandising on the site and other consumer touchpoints in recent quarters is a key contributor to our improved inventory efficiency while also driving increased consumer engagement and category expansion. For instance, net sales from our festival shop have revolved nearly tripled year over year in the first half of 2025, on top of very significant growth last year. Our fashion and editorial merchandising are making it easier than ever for our customers to fund what they are looking for, driving improved inventory efficiency. Our merchandising is also helping to generate increased demand in fashion apparel offerings outside of our historical core of event dressing. Sales of shorts have been incredible in the first half of 25, also contributing to our improved inventory turns year over year. Leveraging our data-driven approach, our merchandising team identified the shorts trend very early, and we capitalized by highlighting the perfect short styling for the boho look or for wearing it at the beach. I truly believe the combination of our merchandising, editorial, and photography that seemingly feeds into our brand marketing messaging is second to none and continues to improve. Third, forward. Our forward segment delivered impressive second quarter results that further validate our strategy on investing through the cycle while the luxury industry continues to face near-term challenges. While many luxury players have reported declining revenue, forward net sales increased 10% year-over-year on increased margins as forward gross profit increased by 16% year-over-year in the second quarter. And at a time when some of the largest luxury retailers are delaying payments to luxury brands for merchandise received, forward continues to attract coveted luxury brands with new partners. Illustrating our brand assortment momentum our recent launches done forward by covered luxury brands including phoebe filo victoria beckin beauty ralph lauren and the launch of skims x roberto cavalli collaboration finally luxury brands have also been creating in-demand products that are exclusively available on ford in june we launched our forward summer club capsule that features exclusive to the ford south for summer getaways from hot brands including christopher ezber cedrez and same consumer demand for the capsule has been outstanding resulting in very positive feedback from other luxury brands who are eager to partner with us more closely going forward. Fourth, own brands, where our team has been incredibly agile in navigating the evolving tariff landscape. Despite all the uncertainty, I am pleased to share that our momentum at own brands continues to build strongly. In fact, year-over-year growth of our own brand net sales improved for the fifth consecutive quarter in Q2 and is outpacing our overall growth, leading to increased penetration of own brands. The increased own brand mix of revolve-step and net sales year over year was a key contributor to our better than expected gross margin as own brands generate much higher gross margins than third-party brands. And since our own brand collections are exclusively available through Evolve and Forward, own brands are a key driver of traffic, new customer acquisition, and net sales at full price. With the underlying metrics for own brands performing better than ever and continuing to outperform comparable metrics for third-party brands, we are investing with confidence ahead of the launch of some exciting new own brands in the next few quarters. I look forward to sharing more on the next quarter's conference call. Finally, physical retail. We continue to be very excited about the growth opportunity in physical retail over the long term. We are making significant progress developing our retail muscle as we continue to build out a team that continues to raise the bar on our go-to-market strategy and operations that are asked in store, resulting in conversion gains, net sales growth, and phenomenal customer feedback. Our brands have taken notice of our ask-in success. An executive from an iconic Italian luxury brand that we've targeted for years to carry in our forward assortment, visited our Aspen store recently and was so impressed by our merchandising, service, and overall aesthetic that we have begun discussions about carrying the iconic brand as part of our insore assortment. All of this is further validation of the attractive long-term opportunity ahead in physical retail and will be an important driver of success at our soon-to-be open store in Los Angeles. We are in track to open our permanent store in Los Angeles in the fourth quarter, just in time for the holiday season. The store design looks incredible, inside and out, and will beautifully showcase our brands and our prime space within the quintessential shopping destination at the Grove Los Angeles. Wrapping up, clearly we have a lot of promising growth initiatives in the works that we are very excited about. Our strong financial profile sets us apart, especially in such a dynamic operating environment, illustrated by our profitable growth and cash flow generation that further strengthened our balance sheet to more than $310 million in cash and cash equivalents as of June 30th. This strategic advantage gives us the capacity to invest in long-term success and initiatives that we believe we will continue to drive profitable growth for many years to come. Now I'll turn it over to Jesse for a discussion of the financial.
Thanks Michael and hello everyone. Our ability to deliver profitable growth again in the second quarter while continuing to invest in long-term growth drivers and at the same time further building our already strong balance sheet is a true reflection of the platform we have built, our operating excellence, and the team's ability to execute. I am proud of the team for delivering strong second quarter results, particularly considering the volatile macroeconomic environment and our slow start to the quarter amidst all the uncertainty around the tariff policy announcements in early April. I'll start by recapping our second quarter results. Then I will summarize our great progress on navigating tariffs before closing with updates on recent trends in the business and guidance for the balance of the year. Starting with the second quarter results, net sales were $309 million, a year-over-year increase of 9%, representing an exciting milestone of delivering more than $300 million in quarterly revenue for the first time. Revolve segment net sales increased 9%, and forward segment net sales increased 10% year-over-year in the second quarter. By territory, domestic net sales increased 7%, and international net sales increased 17% year-over-year. Active customers, a trailing 12-month measure, increased 6% year-over-year. Total orders placed were $2.4 million, an increase of 7% year-over-year. Average order value was $300, a decrease of 2% year-over-year that was primarily due to a shift in product mix. Consolidated gross margin was 54.1%, an increase of 4 basis points year-over-year and well above our guidance range. Contributing to the slight margin expansion year-over-year was a higher mix of own brands as a percentage of Revolve segment net sales, partially offset by a lower but still very strong mix of net sales at full price. Now, moving on to operating expenses. Fulfillment costs were 3.2% of net sales, a decrease of 10 basis points year-over-year, albeit slightly higher than our guidance. The year-over-year efficiency reflects a decrease in our return rate, partially offset by a lower AOV year-over-year. Selling and distribution cost efficiency outperformed our guidance at 17.4% of net sales, a decrease of 45 basis points year-over-year. This strong result reflects a continued decrease in our return rate year-over-year, as well as our team's successful execution in driving logistics cost efficiencies, partially offset by a lower AOV year-over-year. Our marketing investment represented 15.2% of net sales, essentially flat year-over-year, and well below our average marketing investment for the second quarters over the past four years. General and administrative costs were $38.3 million, outperforming our guidance of $39 million, albeit an increase of 55 basis points year-over-year as a percentage of net sales. The increase in net sales and gross profit year-over-year and improved efficiency in our logistics costs help us to achieve solid growth in operating profitability. Our gap income from operations increased 10% year-over-year in the second quarter. Now, below the operating income line, there was a big swing year-over-year in other income expense that I'll walk you through next. In the second quarter of this year, we recorded other expense of $2.9 million, a decrease from recording other income of $4.3 million in the second quarter of 2024. This $7.2 million decrease in other income year over year is primarily attributable to a $2.8 million increase in unrealized foreign currency exchange losses year over year, a $2.4 million non-cash charge in the second quarter of 2025 related to the disposal of a subsidiary, as compared to a bargain purchase gain of $1.9 million related to the acquisition of the same subsidiary in the second quarter of 2024. Now, let me provide some background on the disposal of a subsidiary charge in the second quarter of 2025 and the related bargain purchase gain in the second quarter of 2024. Both relate to a very small acquisition we closed in the second quarter of 2024. We made the difficult decision to cease funding the operations of our majority-owned foreign subsidiary that had acquired the business of French designer Alexandre Vautier for approximately $400,000 in the second quarter of 2024. Our disciplined approach to capital allocation guided our decision to move on and shift our focus to other initiatives with higher ROI that we believe will maximize the overall returns on our investments over the long term. Our tax rate was 33.7% in the second quarter, as compared to 25.7% in the prior year. The higher-than-expected effective tax rate is primarily due to certain discrete tax items recorded in the second quarter of 2025 that we previously expected to be reflected in the third quarter of 2025. Net income was $10 million, or $0.14 per diluted share, compared to $0.21 per diluted share in the second quarter of 2024. This decrease was primarily due to the significant year-over-year decrease in other income, and the increased effective tax rate I just mentioned. Adjusted EBITDA was $23 million, a year-over-year increase of 12%, which outpaced our net sales growth of 9%. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 7.4%, our highest quarterly margin in three years. Moving on to the balance sheet and cash flow statement, we delivered strong cash flows in the second quarter. Free cash flow was $9.6 million for the quarter and $52.4 million for the six-month year-to-date period. A year-over-year increase of $42.4 million or 424 percent compared to the six-month year-to-date period in 2024. Improved inventory dynamics was a key driver of our strong cash flow generation as net sales increased 9 percent while our inventory declined 6% year-over-year. Inventory at June 30, 2025 was $221 million, a decrease of $13 million year-over-year. Importantly, we are entering the third quarter with inventory that is healthy and clean, featuring newness that is resonating with our core customer. As of June 30, 2025, cash and cash equivalents were $311 million, an increase of $10 million during the quarter, and growth of $66 million, or 27% year-over-year, and we continue to have no debt. Our strong balance sheet and cash flow gives us capacity to continue to invest in the business to drive long-term growth, including physical retail and AI, while at the same time, opportunistically evaluating strategic M&A and repurchasing Class A common shares to enhance shareholder value. During the second quarter, we repurchased approximately 93,000 shares of Class A common stock at an average price of $18.78. Approximately $56 million remained under our $100 million stock repurchase program as of June 30, 2025. Now, a brief update on tariffs. Over the past few months, our cross-functional team has made excellent progress on tariff mitigation, working closely with our partners and brands to drive a successful outcome. As a result, in the second quarter, we estimate that we mitigated the significant majority of our tariff exposure. We expect that our diversification initiatives will enable us to slightly reduce our sourcing exposure to China for our own brand products starting in the second half of this year and into 2026. We remain thoughtful in our approach, however, keeping a close eye on where the tariffs across regions may ultimately land amidst all the continuing uncertainty. To illustrate the volatility we are dealing with, when we announced our first quarter results and gave guidance in early May, the incremental tariff for China was 145%. By comparison, today the incremental tariff for China is 30%. While still high, we view the current China tariff level as much more manageable, particularly with our great progress on tariff mitigation achieved in the past few months. Importantly, looking beyond the current tariff challenges that we will continue to navigate for the balance of the year and into 2026, We believe our team's great work on tariff mitigation initiatives has the potential to improve our gross margin over the long run. So, while the tariff landscape remains very uncertain, we feel much better today about our ability to navigate through the tariff landscape than we did just three months ago. And this is reflected in our improved gross margin outlook I will discuss shortly. Now, let me update you on some recent trends in the business since the second quarter ended and provide some direction on our cost structure to help in your modeling of the business for 2025. Starting from the top, our net sales in the month of July increased by approximately 7% year-over-year. Now, before we get into guidance, let me caveat that our outlook is based on the current status of tariffs as of today, August 5th, 2025, and our estimate of the impact of potential mitigating activities that are currently underway. Our outlook for gross margin is especially susceptible to variability, given the uncertainty surrounding the timing and level of tariffs that will ultimately be in effect, as well as the timing and magnitude of the potential impact resulting from our mitigation efforts. With that, let's discuss our updated guidance for gross margin, which includes our best estimate for the impact of tariffs, net of our mitigation efforts. We expect gross margin in the third quarter of 2025 of between 51.2 and 51.7 percent, which at the midpoint implies a slight increase year over year. For the full year 2025, we now expect gross margin of between 52.1 and 52.6 percent, which is considerably higher than our prior guidance. At the midpoint, the new range implies a slight decrease year-over-year. Again, this guidance reflects our best estimate at this point, but there are a lot of moving pieces and a considerable amount of uncertainty that remains. Fulfillment. We expect fulfillment as a percentage of net sales of approximately 3.2% for the third quarter of 2025, a slight decrease year-over-year. For the full year 2025, we expect fulfillment to represent between 3.1 and 3.2 percent of net sales. Selling and distribution. We expect selling and distribution costs as a percentage of net sales of approximately 17.5 percent for the third quarter of 2025 and a range of 17.2 to 17.5 percent for the full year 2025, unchanged from last quarter. Embedded in our assumptions are that we will face more difficult return rate comparisons going forward after five consecutive quarters of year-over-year decreases in our return rate marketing we expect our marketing investment to be approximately 14.5 percent of net sales in the third quarter of 2025 and between 14.8 and 15 percent of net sales for the full year 2025 a slight decrease from our prior guidance general and administrative we expect gma expense of approximately $38.5 million in the third quarter of 2025, and between $152 million and $154 million for the full year 2025, also lower than our prior full year guidance range. And lastly, we now expect our effective tax rate to be approximately 28 to 29 percent for the full year 2025. As previously mentioned, the higher than expected tax rate in the second quarter is primarily due to certain discrete tax items that we have previously expected to be reflected in our tax provision in the third quarter of 2025. For the second half of 2025, we expect our effective tax rate to be approximately 27%. To recap, we delivered strong Q2 results during what continues to be a challenging and fluid environment. With our highly capable team, healthy cash flow, and rock-solid balance sheet, we are well-positioned to navigate the current uncertainty while continuing to invest in the exciting longer-term growth opportunities ahead of us. Now, we'll open it up for your questions.
Thank you, sir. And I would like to remind everyone it is star one if you would like to ask a question today. We'll take the first question from Nathan Feather, Morgan Stanley.
Hey, everyone. Thanks so much for the question and congrats on the strong results. You mentioned in the prepared remarks that some of the tariff mitigation efforts you have put in place so far should help the margin structure long term. Can you help dig in on what's happening there and the potential magnitude of the benefits? Thank you.
Yeah, definitely. So without getting into specific details, the pressure of the tariffs opened up a lot of opportunities for us to partner with our brands at a deeper level, to come up with win-win solutions that apply in this increased tariff world as well as a world without the increased tariff. So we think those partnerships and changes will provide long-term benefits for us. And then with regards to the margin impact of tariffs themselves, we believe that over time, that the pressure from the tariff increases will start to flow through prices over the longer term, and we'll see base margins renormalized while still reaping the benefits of those long-term partnership opportunities.
Great. That's helpful.
And then I guess, how should we think about the pricing path when it comes to tariffs and when you might see some of those increases come through, both in the own brands and on the partner side? yeah sure so we are starting to see more impacts from price increases over time so in Q3 we're seeing about a mid-single digit broad-based price increase from third-party brands and then with Q4 the data is still early but we're starting to see I think we will start to see price increases flow through over time as brands react to the increased cost pressure and then with regards to own brand our strategy on the own brand side is just to stay with the market. So whatever the market is doing, we'll generally be adjusting prices along with that.
Very helpful. Thank you.
The next question today comes from Oliver Chen from TD Securities.
Hi, Mike, Mike, and Jesse. Regarding U.S. versus international, what would you say you're seeing in terms of the plus seven within the U.S. and categories that have been stronger versus weaker? would love color on dresses as well and then as we think about the margin jesse you called out a lower mix of full price sales is that is that up against a tough full price comparison will that trend continue in terms of that being a headwind and then lastly the own brand capabilities and you've been through different versions of this it sounds like it's much more broad based now and you're seeing good momentum but it might be helpful to contrast like your what you like your
capabilities and own brands you know versus the past i know it's evolved um in a really positive way thank you yeah maybe i'll start with the uh full price question oliver and then uh kick it over to you guys um full price mix was really healthy in youtube it was lower year over year but still very healthy and generally in line with what we were seeing in 2019 so very happy with where we are up against comps from last year in the back half of the year you know it's probably plus or minus in the same zone as we saw last year so feel good about the mix of inventory the mix of full price and then also the uh great progress made on markdown margin so kind of
across the different cuts of margin seeing really good health there and then just with regards to us versus international i'll comment a bit there and then maybe turn it over to michael for comments on fashion and known brands. So, yeah, internationally saw particular strength in Q2. It was very broad-based. Almost all major regions were up by double digits with just a couple exceptions. Notably, as we mentioned in the earlier remarks, China has been a great story for us as we invested a couple of years ago in a more localized team and leadership in that area to really help develop that market for us. And over the past two years, we've more than doubled that business. So So we're on the Revolve side of things. So we're really starting to see the efforts of that pay off as well as a lot of our efforts in other regions. So very happy with those international trends.
We're going to rest as Justin continues to be a strong category for us. We continue to grow. We're growing actually faster this quarter than this quarter last year. So there's a little acceleration there. We're super proud of our progress across all other categories, as you mentioned. Shorts doing quite well. Intimates jewelry, pants. So we're getting a lot of trends there. That has been driven by partner brands, but also been driven by own brands. Own brands, we've been investing for years to really diversify our product offering, and we're having great, steady success. I think this is, I think, five quarters of steady year-over-year growth, and more diversified penetration, ultimately offering, addressing more leads for our customer across the board, versus just that going out in just categories. It's still really great there. Also, noting that it's still quite early in that journey, and there's still a lot of opportunities that own brands can use to expand across categories, across uses, and, you know, other aspects of our customers' lives.
Our next question today comes from Anna Andreeva from Piper Sandler.
Great. Thanks so much, and congrats, guys. Nice results. On July up 7, should we think forward and international are outpacing, revolve, and domestic? Any other color you could share? I remember last quarter you talked about the shift to more accessible price points. I don't think we heard that this time around. Did that continue in 2Q or quarter to date? And then we had a follow-up as well.
Yeah. So on July, we're not going to get too specific there, just because on a monthly basis, there's a lot of volatility. There was a little more pressure on the comp basis on the international side of the business, but again, it's just a month, we don't want to get into too much there. On the kind of accessible price point note, we had commented last quarter, we were seeing pressure on aop and that started to improve kind of as we exited april and into may june and that was the case but we are seeing great progress out of our category diversification so fashion apparel was up 13 versus dresses kind of that event wear which was up five percent so there is some impact there and just product category diversification which is a good thing and part of the strategy okay okay that's perfect that's very helpful uh and just as a follow-up on gross margin did you say what was the impact of tariffs in the second quarter and 3Q guide is based on gross margin up only slightly despite that easy to compare and inventories look very soon so should we think tariffs will be a greater impact post mitigation in 3Q yeah so in the in the quarter in Q2 there was a negative impact from tariffs now that was smaller given that a lot of the receipts won't roll in until the back half year but there was an impact there that was more than offset by the improvements we made on the markdown margin markdown algorithm and then also the great expansion we saw on phone brands and that led to the year-over-year increase in gross margin and then if you look at the back half of the year and our guidance there a slight increase in q3 and then you know for the full year about 30 basis points below where we were at the beginning of the year. So that does reflect some negative tariff impact, greater than it was in Q2. But again, offset by some of the great progress we've made, both on own brands and that long-ground margin.
Our next question today comes from Jay Soul from UBS.
Great. Thank you so much. Two-part question. One is just talk a little bit about the progress you continue to make in lowering the return rate, and maybe talk about prospects for seeing that return rate continue to improve as go through the rest of the year into next year and then mike just on ai um just want to you know follow this thread it's been a topic of conversation on the calls for the last few calls you talk about the progress you made in the last 90 days if you're seeing still good opportunities in ai or if you're starting seeing sort of stumbling blocks and roadblocks and hurdles that maybe would prevent you know utilizing the opportunities maybe the way you envisioned before thank you yeah definitely so on return rates we feel great about uh all the progress we've made and the initiatives over the past year.
As we get into the back half of the year, it's tougher compared as Jesse mentioned. So, you know, we would caution moderation as far as expectations there. We still have a number of projects in the pipeline, including some where they require a bit more partnership with the brands than with just everything going on with the tariffs right now. It's just, you know, the brands have their hands full. So, you know, we also want to be just smart about how we go about things in terms of the timing of driving improvements there. But a lot of stuff in the R&D phase, I think probably more limited impact in terms of new things in the back half of the year. But I'm hopeful as we enter H1 2026, we'll start to see some acceleration there in terms of, you know, kind of projects and issues that can bear fruit on that side. And then in terms of AI, yeah, I think 2024 was an incredible year for us in terms of delivering AI enhancements. We still have a lot in the works this year, including continued improvements on the AI search, which was exciting for us. Our original AI search already beat the sort of third-party market leader or one of the market leaders in that space. And then we improved it even further with further conversion rate gains. the most recent quarter we've deployed voice to text technology recently on the customer service side to help us out there um you know we have some great things in the r d phase across the board on the marketing side uh we've had some early success with landing page optimization that's driven by ai and that ai really enables in a way that wasn't possible before so we're seeing some nice early results there continuing to experiment with ai content in terms of videos imagery on the marketing side so i think a lot of nice things there continued upgrades to personalization recommendation algorithms on the website utilizing ai and then of course some some bigger things that are more in the r d type phase that could be a bit more transformational just in terms of how consumers shop the website and including some things that are early stage in terms of testing out with with consumers like virtual try on and things of that nature so yeah i think we're just scratching the surface but the nature of anything r d is you know you'll have some some big ones one quarter and then maybe some more incremental wins another quarter. But, you know, when those R&D projects hit, they can hit in a big way. So, we're continually, you know, very excited with what we're working on there.
Up next is Dylan Cardin from William Blair.
Appreciate it. Curious on the inventory initiatives, if you can share anything there. We've got discrepancy in sales growth versus inventory growth, which is clearly a positive. And I'm curious, then, sort of trickling it down to the gross margin line, how much of that is the upside there kind of on the guide is more tariff-related in that sort of swing in China, and how much is sort of just better inventory management?
Yeah, you know, really proud of the progress we made on that inventory versus sales dynamic. And this is, you know, this has been in the works for a couple quarters, and, you know, we've made progress over the last couple quarters. but really good to see that come through in a big way and importantly in a really healthy position as we enter the back half of the year and very balanced and that that inventory differential and the benefit there is across both segments so great to see both segments really in a healthy position um and on the gross margin um you know again feel really good about the tariff mitigation and then we've had some upside from the markdown algorithm adjustments the really healthy inventory and then also the own brand expansion i think as michael mentioned in his prepared remarks seeing the best full price uh turns we've seen in over four years and if you pull out kind of that
covid post-covid peak you know it's the best we've seen in plus 10 years so really good inventory management he's been doing a great job there i know you don't want to get into it as far as sort of the quarterly decel but in any context you can give i know comparisons get harder is where i'm going with this, anything you can kind of provide that trends or, you know, kind of how things might progress.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, again, not much to get into there. To your point, the comps could get tougher in the back half of the quarter based on what we said last year and into the fourth quarter. But, you know, I think really good performance in Q2 and continue to just drive and manage student environment. Thanks.
And the next question is Rick Patel from Raymond James.
Thank you, and well done on the great execution in a tough environment. I had a follow-up question on international performance. So, any updates to share in terms of anti-American sentiment that could be holding back even stronger growth in international markets? And then how do we think about the durability of the international growth rate going forward?
Yeah, so we've seen those effects moderate, but I wouldn't say they've completely gone away. And, you know, I called out almost every region is growing in double digits, but one notable exception is Canada. So, you know, we're still, I believe, seeing impact of the negative sentiment regarding America in that region. But it's moderated from its peak, which I think is a great sign. And then in terms of the durability, we feel great about the international roadmap and the growth durability. And, you know, China is in the very early stages growing its very significant double-digit growth rates right now. And so as that region becomes larger and more important for Evolve, of course, that, you know, the effect of high growth rates, you know, can have an even bigger impact on international. So, you know, I think we have a lot of good things going for international over the longer term, a lot of untapped opportunities, and feel great about our roadmap there.
Can you also expand on the enhancements and the markdown algorithms that are benefiting gross margin? It sounds like it was a material tailwind to just, you know, any way to frame how much it benefited gross margins this quarter and how do we think about the ability to drive further improvement from here?
So I'll leave to Jesse any commentary on the impact level, you know, to the extent that we disclose it. But, yeah, I would say it's a meaningful impact. It was definitely more than just hit the margins. And, you know, I think it goes back to how we are constantly investing in improving our systems and technology and processes to get better and better over the long term. And we think that'll continue to be a long term gross margin and yet had a very meaningful impact on the quarter. And, you know, we're excited as we continue to make upgrades in that area and deploy improvements, particularly as AI becomes more important in that area, that there's a lot more to come there as we continue to make investments.
Yeah, no specific disclosure on the impact, you know, other than, you know, what we've disclosed in that margin did increase and that offset some of the tariff impact. And this only took place, you know, call it, you know, midway through the quarter. So just in the early stages of seeing the impact there and that's reflected in the full year guidance.
Thanks very much.
Moving on to Trevor Young with Barclays.
Great. Thank you. Michael, just back to the comments on own brand. Is the potentially lower tariff environment changing how you're thinking about investing behind some of those upcoming launches in the back half, maybe allocating greater portion of marketing budget behind those? And also, how is it influencing how you think about own brand mix and how quickly that could ramp your medium term? Some of the comments in the prepared remarks sounded incrementally more confident around that own brand initiative. And just lastly, any implications for inventory growth from some of those efforts to push own brands?
Yeah, the stability and the tariff situation gives a lot more confidence. Over the past several years, we've been increasing own brands consciously, investing into products, and it has become a great, great, great result. Some of our best-performing own brand products to some of our most expensive own brand products. So some of the upcoming launches are investments into that zone. So feeling really good about that. There will be some, you know, we'll invest meaningful for an own brand launch. Given our confidence of what the product is, given our confidence of what our customers are looking for, gaps in the marketplace and gaps in our assortment. So super excited about that. I think own brand percentage of inventory will be steadily increasing. There's been a lot of investments, both in terms of new brands as well as new capabilities. So there'll be a steady ramp up there. I think we've been past that too aggressive could be challenging or a little bit too risky. So we see a nice low. The one thing that really could enhance OwnBrands is our physical stores, and we're seeing our physical stores really, really perform well. OwnBrands' product in physical stores is performing really, really well, of course, off a small basin in terms of these small stores. We've seen the integration there will be quite natural, quite synergistic, and super exciting.
Great.
Thank you. the next question is ashley owens key bank capital markets thank you so much for taking your question so quickly just on own brands again in pairs you know if you look to make price increases in line with the broader market just how are you thinking about balancing those actions with demand elasticity to sustain the momentum within own brands and then with the mitigation measures in place how is your view on the need for additional pricing shifted compared to three months ago?
When we're looking at our own brand product, we're really comparing to just the broader third-party mix. And we've done some blind tests where we're removing tags and testing things against luxury and seeing that own brand pricing is, you know, magnitudes for, you know, greater, you know, on the lower side, but seeing quality very, very, very comparable. So a lot of times, super optimistic, super excited that as we invest a better, higher quality product, the customer buys our higher price points, but also still feels that they are very accessible and quite valued compared to the luxury marketplace. So I think that there's a huge, huge opportunity there. Of course, as we invest into world-class talent as well as a world-class brand, we think we're giving a luxury proposition at a premium price point, and a customer has really connected So a lot of crap there, and yeah, can't be more part of the team and the execution there.
Okay, super helpful. and then just to follow up to really quickly on mna i know that you see funding of alexandra voltier but you mentioned potentially being opportunistic around some of the future acquisitions and the prepared remarks what are you looking for now as you evaluate the market and how do you think about the right type of opportunities that could complement the broader portfolio i see there's big gaps in our merchandising mix still so we're really strong in certain areas but we know our customer shops for other needs and other zones so i think that the right M&A opportunity could really integrate with what a customer comes to us for, but also we're not necessarily providing just yet.
It can really accelerate things in that zone. So I'm excited to explore. I think our customer has this deep trust in us, and we ultimately have to give her a broader offering, a more diverse offering, and ultimately we can gain a bigger share of wallet, a bigger share of closet, and it's more mind share as well. It also unlocks other marketing opportunities and such.
So that's the primary thing, where we can leverage our scale and infrastructure and expertise into strategic zones that we know are synergistic with our customer base the next question is matt karanda ross capital partners a lot of banefs answered but um maybe just a clarifying question on the gross margin for the third quarter is that guidance range taking into account the full impact of tariffs and vendor price increases or is there still some benefit of sort of inventory brought in prior to price increases from vendors yeah i know that factors in everything, and that's our best estimate, not only of the tariff rates and where they ultimately land, because there's still some uncertainty there, but also our best estimate
of our mitigation efforts and the pricing that we're seeing.
Okay, and then just on the OPEX, I guess it implies some reinvestment, given some of the line items that you guided there, Jesse, for the second half of the year, especially on marketing and selling and distribution. Can you guys maybe just address either specific marketing campaigns or just additional expenses that are impacting S&D in the second half of the year that caused the deleverage?
Yeah, on selling distribution first, this compares to last year, Q3 and Q4, where we saw the meaningful decreases in return rates. So we're up against those comps and we're factoring that in as we look ahead. we're still optimistic over the long term that we can continue to work return rate down but we are up against those tough comps where you saw that great benefit uh from the return rate reduction um and then on marketing um just continue to invest you know in the core continue to acquire customers continue to retain our existing customers and importantly in the back half of the year we have the uh own brand launches coming up in the next couple quarters that we'll invest ahead of. And then also the opening of the growth door in LA that will take some marketing dollars.
Our next question will come from Peter McGoldrick from Stiefel.
Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Active customer growth accelerated year-to-date versus 2024.
I was hoping you could quantify the areas where you're picking up new customers, whether it be from category expansion luxury retail international or picking up lapsed revolve customers anything you can help with sizing there yeah i think if you look at relative strength it um you know probably lines up with the relative net sales growth that we saw um and then um and then sorry the second piece oh on the existing customers really exciting to see the productivity from those existing customers so it increased both sequentially in your rear and the revenue per active customer and then a sequential increase in order for active customer so really good results
from the existing customer then continue to acquire those new customers very good and then fashion apparel plus 13 year over year that's the largest dollar contributor to revenue growth can you parse the contribution from expanding assortment from underlying growth within the core product categories yeah i think it's hard to get too specific on person and out but Category expansion and just investments in the categories that we haven't historically been known for as much played a big role in the, you know, in the growth in fashion apparel. But, you know, it's always going to be a mix between just nuances of fashion trends changing over time in terms of where the dollars go. But 100 percent, our continued investment in other categories is starting to play dividends. and I think we're in the very early stages there, and the long-term opportunity is quite big if we can make a mark outside these areas we've been traditionally known.
All right. Thank you very much.
The next question is Janine Sticker from BTIG.
Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Can you talk a little bit more about forward? It's really impressive the results you've had there, just given how tough luxury has been. So, maybe speak about some of the investments you're making there and then how you see the share gain opportunities going forward as we go through the next year.
Over with Ford, share gain, we feel really good about, you know, that's really across the board. It's not necessarily one thing. I think the buying and merchandising mix has been awesome. The ability to add new brands, especially in a time when some of our most, you know, direct competitors, especially in the U.S. marketplace, are increasingly weaker and weaker. There's also been a lot of efforts in higher touch consumer sales. That's been an early, early area for us. We're seeing great, great progress there. So, of course, being like a smaller business, There are still lots of untapped zones for us to invest in, you know, kind of drafting behind what we've learned from Evolve and what our expertise there. So great progress by the team, but also a long way to go. Really, really great, you know, improvements in a number of areas across the board.
Great. And then maybe just to follow up, I'm curious what you're seeing on beauty, what you've been seeing in that category and how you see the opportunity there go forward as well.
Great progress on beauty, but also still early. we're seeing you know good healthy growth there but also knowing that there are a lot of blocking and tackling a lot of nuts and bolts that need to improve basic site experience and of course you know big marketing we have not invested much of the marketing sign at all it's really been driven by assortment you know the next kind of phase that we think will be you know game changing will be site experience a long way to go there but seen you know the initial progress there being you know quite satisfying and ultimately when we're seeing that the merchandising mix is you know world-class and our study experience is world-class, then we can really unleash marketing. So early stages, steady, steady progress and growth, growing faster than the core business, but also a long, long way to go in a big attractive market.
Great. Next up is Michael Benetti, Evercore ISI.
Hey, guys. It's Carson on for Michael. First off, congrats on a nice quarter. Could you break down the merchandising strategy for the rest of the year to help us think about AOV? and what is the updated outlook in bed for markdowns in the second half?
Yeah, maybe I'll comment on the AOB first. You know, I think we had seen some pressure in Q1 and Q2. Our internal modeling has us about flat for the back half of the year. That has some tariff-related price increases impacting that on the plus side, and then offsetting that would be just that product category diversification again where we are seeing great growth in those other categories that generally have lower price points than the core event dressing um and then there's of course just quarter to quarter shifts on full price markdown mix and the forward versus revolve mix so but our internal amount of modeling is about flat and as far as merchandising strategy i think it's you know back half of the year kind of mirrors our long-term strategy is really enhance the core really be the best of what we're really known for as well as expand you know the fronts really make progress in areas that we're not we're known for last year we had great progress in sweaters and knits outerwear ski kind of cold
weather things that were historically not in our la nature and we're anticipating more of the same but overall feel good about that continued uh expansion of own brands and launching new own brands which should be very very exciting for us so looking forward to the back half of the year great thanks guys our final question today comes from janet kloppenberg jjk Hi, everybody, and congrats on a nice quarter.
I had a question on pricing and on mix. And I don't know if I'm right on mix, but it seems to me that the way you're sorting the website and the categories you're invested in are driving down the average price point. and I'd love you to clarify that for me. And then secondly, I was just wondering that as you passed higher prices along in July, have you seen, because of the tariff impact, have you seen some resistance or any resistance from your core customers?
Thank you. yeah so i'll start with the july question uh the early read is we aren't seeing significant signs of resistance from customers on some of the price increases we've seen but uh you know the the data is still early uh i'd say the sample set is not large enough to draw a conclusion and also as we mentioned the price increases that we're seeing from third-party vendors do do tick up a bit as we enter into q4 so i think the early read is positive but we have to see how things continue to play out over the course of the year. And then in terms of the price point and how merchandising mix can be affecting things, I think it's a combination. So for Q2, it was a bit of a tale of two halves. In the front half, we did see some impact at times where consumer sentiment was particularly low on the pricing side of things, and that played a role. And then I think on the other front, you're right that there was a bit of a mix from from merchandising assortment which can vary quarter to quarter as we make investments in areas of opportunity um so uh you know i i think we'll see that moderate uh you know significantly through the back half of the year uh you know just from a strategic standpoint and then also you know with those vendors starting to price uh pass through those price increases as well so uh you know we shouldn't we don't expect to see the same trend there in the back okay thank you very much and everyone that's all the time we have for questions today i will turn the call back to management for closing remarks thank you guys for joining us for this quarter and thank you
most importantly to our team really proud of you know all the work that's been done we agree it's been a nice quarter a solid quarter but it doesn't really affect all the hard work that really sets the foundation for great quarters ahead a macro and you know macroeconomic uncertainty really is you know requires a lot of hard work it also allows us to really invest and separate ourselves strategically from our competition. So excited for the investments that we have, excited for the future, and excited for you guys to join us for the journey ahead.
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